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Charles Grant avoids involuntary manslaughter charge

Super Bowl weekend in 2008 featured the surprising news that former Saints defensive end Charles Grant was involved in a fight that resulted in a pregnant woman being shot and killed.  Grant and others faced involuntary manslaughter charges. 

Mike Triplett of the New Orleans Times-Picayune reports that prosecutors and Grant struck a plea deal just as Grant’s trial was due to begin.  The involuntary manslaughter charge was dropped, and Grant pleaded no contest to “affray,” a fancy lawyer word for public fighting.  He’ll pay a $1,000 fine and be placed on one year of unsupervised probation.

“It took a while to get there, but the result was fantastic,” said one of Grant’s lawyers, Edward Tolley.  (The woman who died, as well as her fetus, might not agree with that specific description.)

The man who fired the gun, Laquient Macklin, pleaded guilty to affray and involuntary manslaughter, and he also received no jail time.  Amazingly.

Grant is still facing a civil lawsuit, and he’s also facing a potential penalty under the Personal Conduct Policy after pleading no contest.  He also will undoubtedly be suspended four games for violation of the steroids policy due to the StarCaps situation, if the suspension imposed against Vikings defensive tackles Pat and Kevin Williams eventually are imposed.

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  1. ethan robert says: May 10, 2010 2:21 PM

    They all got off because their lawyers were able to prove that technically it wasn’t “manslaughter”.
    It was “woman and unborn child slaughter”.

  2. EverybodyGotAIDS says: May 10, 2010 2:22 PM

    Wow….just wow.
    On the plus side, at least he didn’t drag her into a bathroom and rape her.

  3. Gröfaz says: May 10, 2010 2:23 PM

    Too bad Plaxico didnt hit a pregnant women instead of himself.

  4. marinofreakout says: May 10, 2010 2:28 PM

    “The man who fired the gun, Laquient Macklin, pleaded guilty to affray and involuntary manslaughter, and he also received no jail time. Amazingly.”
    since when can you plead guilty to involuntary manslaughter and get no jail time? i thought this world had gone soft-guess i was wrong.

  5. TylerDurden says: May 10, 2010 2:29 PM

    Of course he’s facing a civil lawsuit. Your guilty even if your not guilty….especially if you have money.

  6. Primetime17 says: May 10, 2010 2:29 PM

    Let’s hear all about how the Vikings are thugs.

  7. Nobe says: May 10, 2010 2:30 PM

    Let’s see, someone discharged a weapon, a woman was killed and someone admitted to “affray”….
    Public fighting, discharge of a weapon and death add up to involuntary manslaughter and not felony murder………..
    No wonder this country’s legal system is the laughing stock of the planet…

  8. Nobe says: May 10, 2010 2:30 PM

    Then again…..
    “Ray Lewis Way…”
    Enough said.

  9. kristoff says: May 10, 2010 2:36 PM

    yes i suppose that wld constitute as fantastic if i was charles grant also.

  10. WarrenMoonGOAT says: May 10, 2010 2:38 PM

    hey Florio since your a ‘lawyer’ why don’t u break it down and explain why Macklin received no jail time

  11. CleanSlaton says: May 10, 2010 2:44 PM

    If only this had happened in Texas, Grant would be begging for mercy.
    Listen to Chris Rock: make bullets more expensive than guns. The 2nd amendment won’t be violated & senseless crimes like this will decrease exponentially.

  12. tinopuno says: May 10, 2010 2:45 PM

    ‘Self-defense’ is a popular legal strategy in some of the southern states, where gun tottin’ is pretty much a way of life for both men and women. If you feel that someone is endangering you or yours, just fire away.
    Maybe the shooter believed the unborn fetus might grow up to threaten him.

  13. Gröfaz says: May 10, 2010 2:47 PM

    Somewhere Plaxico Burress is rubbing his scar and shaking his head in disbelief.

  14. jimicos says: May 10, 2010 2:50 PM

    Primetime17 says:
    May 10, 2010 2:29 PM
    Let’s hear all about how the Vikings are thugs.
    ————————
    The Vikings are thugs.
    You asked for it.

  15. HarrisonHits says: May 10, 2010 2:50 PM

    Wow how could the shooter not get any jail time ? The prosecutor involved should be fired on the spot.

  16. Zaggs says: May 10, 2010 3:03 PM

    Good to see New Orleans is still living up to its reputation as a complete s**t hole. Guess for the guy who did the shooting to get jail time a major member of the Saints would also have to get jail time.

  17. Grulks says: May 10, 2010 3:04 PM

    For all of you complaining about how Grant got off, at least take the time to read the link in the article.
    Grant wasn’t fighting, didnt instigate it, and was even trying to break up the fight. The guy who fired the gun, shot it into the air, in an effort to disperse the people trying to jump in the fight Grant was breaking up.
    Florio, I generally don’t hammer you too much on here, but the picture you’re painting of Grant (at least in this instance) is that of someone who got away with something. That’s not even close to accurate, and is an extremely douchy move to generate hits/views/comments. Since it’s international monte python day, I say to thee: “I fart in your general direction!”

  18. FriarBob says: May 10, 2010 3:05 PM

    Considering that Grant neither started the fight nor fired the gun, it makes sense to allow him to plead to a reduced charge. Of course, involuntary by itself contains the idea that “he didn’t intend to do it”. But he also didn’t “do it” and thus should be allowed to plead to a reduced charge.
    But to allow the actual shooter the same thing? That’s just plain screwed up.

  19. koast says: May 10, 2010 3:12 PM

    You American’s have lost your damn minds….you can get multiple years for a “Felony” drugs possesion…but someones actual life, an innocent life is worth nothing?
    I will stay in Canada thanks very much.

  20. BernieMac says: May 10, 2010 3:17 PM

    CleanSlaton says:
    May 10, 2010 2:44 PM
    If only this had happened in Texas, Grant would be begging for mercy.
    Listen to Chris Rock: make bullets more expensive than guns. The 2nd amendment won’t be violated & senseless crimes like this will decrease exponentially.
    That would only work if they stop giving thugs million dollar football and basketball contracts.
    Why dont baseball players carry guns and shot themselves and others for fun?

  21. SF Saints Fan says: May 10, 2010 3:20 PM

    Zaggs:
    “Good to see New Orleans is still living up to its reputation as a complete s**t hole. Guess for the guy who did the shooting to get jail time a major member of the Saints would also have to get jail time.”
    Zaggs, this happened in Georgia, not New Orleans. Spout off on something you know something about next time.
    “After nearly two years, the involuntary manslaughter charge against former New Orleans Saints defensive end Charles Grant was dropped on Friday in Early County, Ga., just as testimony was set to begin in his long-awaited trial.”
    That would be the State of Georgia, they would probably be Falcons fans there, right?

  22. Route36West says: May 10, 2010 3:26 PM

    What are you guys talking about all Grant did was get in a fight. I dont know 1 guy who has never been in a fight.
    Its the way people are made and anyone who says this guy deserved to spend time in jail for it when they have gotten in fights before is a hypocrite.
    He didnt make or tell the guy to shoot off his gun. Everyone should focus their hate on him not Grant. That guy is a punk he was afraid to be a man and fight with his hands and had to use a gun. I agree he should be locked up but I dont think what Grant did was even wrong.
    Everyone is such cry babies now. Stop this PC bullshtt. People fight get over it.

  23. FBFreak20 says: May 10, 2010 3:32 PM

    Hey Nobe, you should consider changing your name to Knob. Are you still reading newspaper headlines from a decade ago, cause the Ray Lewis thing was over a decade ago and involved a man and a knife that he never held, you Knob gobbler.

  24. ethan robert says: May 10, 2010 3:34 PM

    Like the NFC Championship Game. Of all the Taint’s players guilty of “affray” (as they like to call it down there in the Bayooooo), only Bobby McCray was fined $20,000. The remainder of the gang along with alleged ringleader, drug kingpin Sean Payton, received unconditional discharges. But, hey, this is Louisiana, and it’s always 1927 in that part of the world.

  25. favrecansuckit says: May 10, 2010 3:34 PM

    Grulks says:
    May 10, 2010 3:04 PM
    For all of you complaining about how Grant got off, at least take the time to read the link in the article.
    ——————————————————–
    That’s asking awful high expectations for the readers of this site. The Saint’s haters will almost certainly refer to Grant as a murderer from now on, even though there isn’t any evidence to show that is the case…

  26. Thorpie says: May 10, 2010 3:36 PM

    Grant did nothing wrong. Lock up the guy that pulled the trigger. It’s a crime that Grant even had to plead to anything.
    Zaggs – The shooting took place in Georgia and all involved were from there too. How does this have anything to do with the city of New Orleans? Also, Grant is not even on the team any more. Pretty weak attempt at taking a shot.

  27. mustbechris says: May 10, 2010 3:40 PM

    plaxico burress shot someone (himself) which resulted in nobody dying and went to jail. macklin shot someone (a pregnant woman) which resulted in two people dying and he didn’t go to jail.
    hell, even donte’ stallworth did SOME jail time. mike vick went to jail for KILLING DOGS but this guy killed two people and doesn’t go to jail?
    no wonder grant can’t get signed. between the starcaps case and this, i’d rather have pacman jones on my team right now. or ben roethlisberger. or lawrence taylor. or oj simpson.

  28. philwauke says: May 10, 2010 3:44 PM

    Zaggs how about reading the story Dumbass it happened in Georgia.

  29. BigEasy says: May 10, 2010 3:45 PM

    WOW! Plaxico would have been better off shooting someone other than himself!
    I can see the “affray” defense swooping across every city…..
    “The man who fired the gun, Laquient Macklin, pleaded guilty to affray and involuntary manslaughter, and he also received no jail time. Amazingly.”

  30. spyboots says: May 10, 2010 3:48 PM

    Why are most of you surprised. Don’t you know by now that Florio likes to tell only 1 side of a story in order to rile people up and get lots of comments?

  31. godofwine says: May 10, 2010 3:51 PM

    I’m okay with Grant not being charged. I get that. But the dude who brought a gun to a fistfight, shot it AND hit the wrong person doesn’t get any jail time?
    ARE YOU F’ING KIDDING ME?
    How is this different than the Darrent Williams killing. Guy has an altercation earlier, gets gun, shoots, hits the wrong person and that person dies. Gets 1,000 years (as if people actually live that long). This guy gets off without jail. I hate this country sometimes. I really do. You have rapists getting more time than people who commit murder. You have famous people getting off scott free. You have guys getting out of jail after 29 years for a rape they didn’t commit. You have child molesters getting less time than murderers and rapists. You have people getting charged with breaking a law that many are surprised is still on the books (isn’t oral copulation still illegal in Louisiana?) or the law was aimed at a particular type of offender and though he didn’t fit the type they charged him anyway (The Genarlow Wilson case) AND when people finally realized that the law was stupid and they removed it from the books they kept him in jail. AND when he won his freedom they kept him in jail because they appealed.
    I hate this country sometimes. I really f’ing do. I am a veteran, a Navy man who proudly served his country overseas, so don’t go there thinking I am a Tim McVeigh-type. There is just that so much goes on so many times that doesn’t make me proud to be an American.

  32. jimicos says: May 10, 2010 3:53 PM

    “That’s not even close to accurate, and is an extremely douchy move to generate hits/views/comments.”
    ———————–
    And you were shocked to see that tactic employed here?

  33. Opie says: May 10, 2010 3:59 PM

    Have to agree with Grulks. After reading the article, extremely douche-like thing to do by Cornflorio.
    There were other people involved that got harsher punishment…..because they deserved it. To imply that Grant “avoided” anything is ignorant and self serving.
    If I interview Grant, Florio, will you come on via phone on our show? Or would you not like that?!?

  34. Nobe says: May 10, 2010 4:00 PM

    Hey FBFreak:
    Murder is murder ten years ago or not. You should change your name to Ignorant Moron. You ignorant moron.

  35. hemicharger says: May 10, 2010 4:05 PM

    # koast says: May 10, 2010 3:12 PM
    You American’s have lost your damn minds….you can get multiple years for a “Felony” drugs possesion…but someones actual life, an innocent life is worth nothing?
    I will stay in Canada thanks very much.
    Good! We didn’t want you hear anyway!

  36. tom coughlin's coat holder says: May 10, 2010 4:06 PM

    one woman dead,one fetus dead and no one is held accountable,are you kidding me?this outcome is truely sad.
    does life have any value at all?

  37. GOVIKES|GOVIKES says: May 10, 2010 4:15 PM

    To think I saw a librarian that stole books was facing 20 years like 2 weeks ago, things make me want to puke. Justice in this country has nothing to do with justice.

  38. funi says: May 10, 2010 4:19 PM

    I guess Rae Caruth had the wrong lawyer!

  39. philwauke says: May 10, 2010 4:36 PM

    ethan pussy roberts said-
    Like the NFC Championship Game. Of all the Taint’s players guilty of “affray” (as they like to call it down there in the Bayooooo), only Bobby McCray was fined $20,000. The remainder of the gang along with alleged ringleader, drug kingpin Sean Payton, received unconditional discharges. But, hey, this is Louisiana, and it’s always 1927 in that part of the world.
    1927 with a superbowl trophy dumbass. All the vikings got were a pair of wranglers in their locker courtesy of the pants on the ground allstar.

  40. ethan robert says: May 10, 2010 4:50 PM

    Bayou Bums will be back committing Aggravated Affray on Brett Favre soon enough.

  41. pfii63 says: May 10, 2010 4:56 PM

    Even the shooter doesn’t do time in this case? What the frack is wrong with our criminal justice process? I was all for Michael Vick doing time for what he did, but let’s get some sense of perspective on the value of human life, or at least what it should be worth.

  42. They_Hate_We says: May 10, 2010 4:58 PM

    ethan robert says:
    May 10, 2010 3:34 PM
    “Like the NFC Championship Game. ”
    I absolutely LOVE the fact that this is eating you up so much inside. I believe jealousy is a wasted emotion, but for an asshat like you, it’s a joy to watch.

  43. Profanity in ALL CAPS says: May 10, 2010 5:22 PM

    so basically,
    if you are an NFL player, and somebody else pulls the trigger, kills a pregnant lady, you are innocent.
    Got it. Thanks justice system. you’re doing great.
    Goodell, where is the punishment? oh you won’t. you like the thuggery.
    but god almighty, you will take pat and kevin williams down with all your might for taking a diet pill. involuntary murder, no sweat. happens all the time. but diet pills are a no no.

  44. Saints-America'sTeam says: May 10, 2010 5:27 PM

    I feel the need to add my horror to the verdict of no jail time for the shooter, NOT GRANT who was trying to break up the fight and didn’t even KNOW the shooter.
    Yeah, it didn’t happen in New Orleans, but the fact that it happened ANYWHERE is abominable. And no jail time? What’s up with those Georgians, anyway? I hope the civil suit cripples the shooter. Grant, on the other hand got fat and lazy that’s why he was released. He was NEVER a thug. None of the Saints are. They arrive with baggage and give up bad habits to play HARD on an elite team.
    And to you, s$it for brains, ethan robert, McCray was charged with a late hit that wasn’t. The fine was incidental because a mistaken low hit bent the Diva. Yeah, that happens. It’s football, not the game you play with your sisters. Remind Favre of that before he makes his decision to come back…Remember Me Shots?
    Lol, drug kingpin, Sean Payton? I guess you’re too ignorant to have read the shyster’s report. He did not name Payton as an abuser. Payton did not steal or abuse vicodin. Vit may have but we don’t know that yet. It will be dealt with harshly, mark my words…if you can read them.

  45. SaintsDieHard says: May 10, 2010 5:53 PM

    ZAGGS IS A COMPLETE S**THEAD!

  46. Nymkosis says: May 10, 2010 6:01 PM

    The NRA must have been is his defense lawyer!

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