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Chris Johnson gets more support for his holdout

Former NFL defensive tackle Warren Sapp thinks that Titans running back Chris Johnson will hold out of training camp.  Now, a couple of former NFL running backs are publicly saying that he should.

Former Titans running back Eddie George, whose shoes Johnson now fills, and former Colts and Rams running back Marshall Faulk, whose single-season yards-from-scrimmage record Johnson broke in only his second year, think Johnson should hold firm in his holdout.
“Without a doubt, if more money is what he wants, he has to hold out,” Faulk said, according to Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean.  “You have to know who you are dealing with. The Titans aren’t known for caving in or paying, it doesn’t matter who you are.  In my opinion, there is no way he can come in and play under the current contract.”
Johnson’s current contract has a total value of $12 million over five years.  Johnson has said that he wants to be the highest-paid offensive player in the league, which means that he’d have to make a lot more than $12 million per year.

Faulk touches on one of the other problems regarding the current system for paying rookies — for every JaMarcus Russell, who never comes close to earning his guaranteed money, there’s a Chris Johnson, who grossly overachieves in relation to the compensation tied to his draft slot. 

“Chris has outplayed his rookie deal. He has beyond exceeded the expectation where he was drafted,” Faulk said.  “When you are drafted you are paid as to where you were drafted, not to how you play.  And then after you play and prove your worth you are then paid as to how you play.  He has exceeded the money he is making, the Titans know it and everyone in the league knows it.”

George agrees.  “The longevity of a running back in this league is so short that you have to take advantage of those opportunities,” the 1995 Heisman winner said.  “My advice to him is if you can get it by playing hardball great.  There is no question he is the best player on that team and he deserved to get paid more.”

Coach Jeff Fisher remains to project confidence.   “These things work themselves out,” Fisher said, per Wyatt.  “I’m sure that he is working.  I’m sure he is not planning on sitting out the season.  I’m sure he is planning on coming in here very soon.”

We disagree with Fisher’s last statement.  But we agree with the one before it.  Johnson won’t sit out the season.  He’ll sit out a maximum of only ten weeks of it, so that he can get credit for the third year of his contract.  If he waits any longer than that, he’ll be in the same position next year that he’s in now.

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52 Responses to “Chris Johnson gets more support for his holdout”
  1. GirthyOne says: May 18, 2010 11:11 AM

    Faulk is an idiot. I can’t stand listening to him on TV. Moron. Nice advice, douche-bag. Hold-Out. Make the team look bad, so every swinging dick does the same thing when they are underpaid.
    If Chris Johnson wants a new contract, he show up for work in good faith and the teams usually reward you by working with them, not creating problems. Leaders lead in a positive way.
    Otherwise, they should trade him. His value will never be higher.

  2. chc4 says: May 18, 2010 11:14 AM

    Hey Marshall — For the guys drafted around Johnson that have done nothing, do they need to pay back any of their guaranteed bonus money?

  3. PittsburghSteelerz says: May 18, 2010 11:16 AM

    Give him 15-20m now, run all the tread off the tires over the next couple years and let him walk.
    Can’t get a top-tier replacement RB for 4-6m/year.

  4. Citizen Strange says: May 18, 2010 11:16 AM

    If I were a GM here is where I would put the money.
    1) QB – Most important position on the field.
    2) OL including TE – Protects the most important position on the field and an elite TE that can get separation (remember when it was just called getting open?) is a QB’s best friend. He is the biggest, closest, target right in the middle of the field.
    3) Defensive front seven. – The stop the run and attack the most important position on the field.
    4) Shake a tree and hope that some good RBs, WRs, and DBs fall out.
    No, Chris Johnson is nowhere near deserving of being the highest payed offensive player in football. No running back is.

  5. Chitown says: May 18, 2010 11:16 AM

    It is almost a guarantee that if he holds out a large part of training camp his season will be filled with disappointment and injury. The Titans need to get this fixed ASAP. If Kevin Kolb can get a big raise there is no reason something can not be done for Johnson to get through the uncapped year.

  6. expodis says: May 18, 2010 11:18 AM

    You signed a contract, now commit to it. You want to earn your money, lets see if you can hold up your elite status (or if you go all Haynesworth on everyone) when its time to sign a new contract in three years.

  7. BigMikeSkinsFan says: May 18, 2010 11:25 AM

    he has had ONE good year!! thats it!! there is no guarantee that he can repeat it in 2010!
    get your ass on the field and play ball CJ.

  8. FLBoyInDallas says: May 18, 2010 11:29 AM

    CJ2K: hold out till the 10th week of the season if you need to bro. You’ve only got a few years of this type of production, so if you need to play it rough with ‘em then play it rough. Don’t back down.
    Bud Adams will either pay a fair salary for your talent & production or he’ll miss about 1250 yds worth of rushing in the first 10 weeks. Make that nasty bird-flippin’ geezer pay through his creaky old nose or let him feel the pain. Oh yeah.

  9. Cushing Will Kill You says: May 18, 2010 11:32 AM

    How else will Johnson get some mo gode toofs? I’d need $12 million, too, if I wanted my mouf to resemble freaking El Dorado.

  10. hotep999 says: May 18, 2010 11:33 AM

    i think he has an interesting point when you consider how J. Russell got cut for under performing in regards to his contract.

  11. doe22us says: May 18, 2010 11:35 AM

    Of course CJ wants to hold out for more cash, after all the Rolexs watches and supped up Cars ain’t cheap…

  12. irishgary says: May 18, 2010 11:37 AM

    If players are not going to honor contracts, change everyone to one year deals. Then see how they perform.

  13. BenRapistberger says: May 18, 2010 11:39 AM

    Imagine if the Pats gave them both of next years #1s for him. /brogasm

  14. vikingsuperbowls=0 says: May 18, 2010 11:41 AM

    pay the man – he’s earned it.
    shoulda had a “goodwill” contract in place mid way thru last year….

  15. PortisPocketsSTR8 says: May 18, 2010 11:43 AM

    It’s funny how all you broke people sit here and complain and hate on other people….but given the same situation ALL of you would be doing the same thing!!
    He deserves it…and its fair to say that he has clearly outplayed his rookie deal!!
    Show him the money!!!!!

  16. Calgaryhawk says: May 18, 2010 11:51 AM

    I agree that players like CJ who WAYYY out perform their contract should have some ability to go back in and redo things.
    My problem is you never see the player go into the FO and tell them “I know I signed that really big contract, but I didn’t earn it so I want you to give me a paycut”. No what the player does in that instance (JaMarcus, Haynesworth, etc…) is refuse the paycut and tell the team they signed the contract and they can either pay the player or cut the player outright.
    The problem is the team’s only option is to cut the player and lose his services all together or overpay.
    Teams regularly go to a player and tell them they really want to keep them but at a reduced salary. In most (not all, most) cases the player refuses.
    But let that player have one good season and it’s all “I’m underpaid…pay me or I’ll hold out.”

  17. LighTsouT says: May 18, 2010 12:00 PM

    I dont usually agree with players holding out, and personally, I think CJ is a product of the offense more than him being the best RB in the league. However, I think he NEEDS to hold out. All of you saying “you signed your contract, honor it”, what else was he going to do if the slots around him signed, miss a whole season, drop to the 6th round of next year’s draft, and make even less money? Titans need to at least give him 4-5mil for the next 3 years remaining on his contract, no extension, just a raise. Make the man happy, because if you don’t, it’s going to rub off horribly against your team when 50% of the offense is gone.

  18. TTP77 says: May 18, 2010 12:01 PM

    Eddie George meet irony. The Titans “showed you the money” and what did it get us? Turf toe and less than 3 yards per carry. SMH

  19. jc says: May 18, 2010 12:04 PM

    Give the guy some slack. You guys aren’t looking at this with an open mind. He is a running back who knows he probably will only get less money every year he is in the league. For all of you saying “play out till the end of your contract” put yourself in his shoes. it is nice to make millions we all wish we could but after his rookie contract he will probably be worn out and done. $12 mil made by 29 and then his career is practically over. And you know most nfler life after football usually go downhill with no money.

  20. turk says: May 18, 2010 12:07 PM

    Players would have no problem “honoring contracts” if the teams were held to the same standard. Johnson is only going to get paid once! He better do everything that he can to get that now, no team will pay a RB big after they turn 30.

  21. GirthyOne says: May 18, 2010 12:09 PM

    hotep999 says:
    May 18, 2010 11:33 AM
    i think he has an interesting point when you consider how J. Russell got cut for under performing in regards to his contract.
    Missed by you apparently is that Russell got $40+M before he got cut. He still gets $3M from them this year too.
    If you want to make that point, consider players who were cut for underperforming due to injury and didn’t have any guarantees. Those guys take it in the shorts.

  22. Chiefs2010 says: May 18, 2010 12:10 PM

    The ball is always in the owner’s court..
    Bud Adams has always been cheap..and he can afford to do so..
    Chris Johnson didn’t get them to the playoffs last year, or the year prior. Sure he’s talented but they don’t have a real threat at QB (VY’s a joke in the pocket), they’re D line has become soft, they’ve never had a big play receiver..
    The Titans, like so many professional teams, are content to be mediocre and semi-competitive. RBs come and go, and they have some decent back ups, rookies..
    Chris Johnson, Eddie George, and Marshall Faulk are all/were all replaceable..
    Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, etc… that’s a different story.

  23. Calgaryhawk says: May 18, 2010 12:12 PM

    The solution is every player gets a standard contract at the minimum. Every contract is full of incentives.
    If the player does what’s required to have the incentive kick in then that player gets the extra money. If the player pulls a JeMarcus he gets the base salary.
    Players would never go for this, of course because, at the end of the day, it really is all about the money.

  24. donnyp says: May 18, 2010 12:13 PM

    Unfortunately RBs are not as dependable as they were the year before. Take AP for example. Still a real good running back but he takes it upon him self to eat buttery popcorn before every game. There is no guarantee that CJ will perform up to the expectations he set last year.
    That being said, the risk is worth it and he should be paid for what he did last year. Realistically he will probably tear it up again this year. He should not do so without the money he deserves. As for the highest paid offensive player in the league? He’s not thaaaat important league-wide.

  25. Chapnasty2 says: May 18, 2010 12:21 PM

    “$12 mil made by 29 and then his career is practically over. And you know most nfler life after football usually go downhill with no money. ”
    I am personally terrible with money but if someone paid me 12 million dollars to do what can only be considered as fun and I had to stop at 29, I promise you I wouldn’t work a day again. It isn’t the teams fault if these guys don’t know how to manage their money.

  26. KWKen says: May 18, 2010 12:22 PM

    He is a player that has definitely out played his rookie contract. Running back has the shortest life-span in the NFL so his options are limited.
    If my Browns can redo Cribbs’ contract then surely the Titans can redo CJ’s. An adjustment to his pay is needed and justified. Not top offensive pay money at least in the 6-7 million dollar range.

  27. Joe Montana says: May 18, 2010 12:22 PM

    I’m tired of the idiots on this site screaming “HONOR THE CONTRACT”. If the teams were held to the same standard like in other sports then fine but in the NFL you can get cut for underperforming or making too much. CJ has every right to hold out, he has exceeded his contract and deserves a new one.

  28. Sneki says: May 18, 2010 12:24 PM

    He needs to be fighting the players union that helped set up a system where JaCarcus gets dramatically overpaid ($100k per completion?) and Johnson underpaid.
    It’s understandable he wants more money…he’s earned it. But on the flip side, it’s not like the Raiders (or my Lions and all their wash out high draft choices) are getting money back from the guys that flopped.
    Ultimately they just need to fix the system that creates these problems with rookies coming in the league.

  29. Panda_Claus says: May 18, 2010 12:29 PM

    CJ for Haynesworth, straight up. OK, if pushed, maybe they could extract Willie Parker from the Redskins as the deal-clincher.

  30. realitypolice says: May 18, 2010 12:35 PM

    Give me a freakin break with the “honor his contract” drivel. Do the owners honor contracts? Owners sign players all the time to contracts with promises of roster bonuses and salary increases they have no intention of paying. It’s such a joke- loyalty works in two directions or it works in no direction.
    These guys have on average 3-5 years to make most of the money they will make in their entire lives. They have a responsibility to themselves and their families to maximize their earning potential- not a responsibility to fat cat owners or whining fans to risk injury and wear and tear for a below market salary.
    Get over yourselves- every one of you would get pissed off and cause trouble if there were people around you doing the same job as you, performing much more poorly than you, and making much more money. Don’t be hypocrites.

  31. Airjunior23 says: May 18, 2010 12:38 PM

    U know I always hate when people bring slick racial connotations into the conversation i.e. he needs to buy rolex’s and all that stupid stuff. These owners make millions off these guys. Brett favre didnt ask for his 80 million dollar contract, then he left the team. Peyton manning got paid and is looking to get paid more. The moneys that a RB can get in this league are very minimal already because people in this league feel like you can stumble on a LaDanian Tomlinson or a Adrian Peterson. This is absolutely not the case. Running backs are not expendable. There are only about five teams that did not win without a great running back.
    Yall need to get off yall high horse and let this man get paid. His bonus money doesnt even equate to what he did for that team. He was the only player that didnt quit at 0-8. They should be kneeling before this guy.
    Real talk, these owners sit back like slave drivers (yea I said it!) and make billions while these dudes get concussions and torn ACL’s for a thousandth of the money these silver spoon punks bring in. If he doesn’t pan out, drop his ass like everyone else. I kno this is a business, but why can’t I enjoy the maximum of my thousandth’s if i’m the motor of this vehicle. get yall mind right you hater ass racists.

  32. Chapnasty2 says: May 18, 2010 12:49 PM

    @ AirJunior
    FIRST OF ALL…. I am white and if I was as rich as these guys I would have a Rolex or 2, or 3 or 4 or as many as I wanted. My wife would be “iced” out and I would drive a Bentley. The only person that thinks it has anything to do with race is you. People enjoy nice things regardless of the color of their skin Pal.
    SECOND….. Slave drivers huh? So what about all the white people in the leauge? I guess I just threw out your race baiting sir. Have a good one.

  33. omegalh says: May 18, 2010 12:49 PM

    These guys hold out all wrong. They should do everything in the offseason…until the day before the season starts, then don’t show up. Teams would panic because they would have to scramble for a backup plan.

  34. edgy1957 says: May 18, 2010 12:57 PM

    It amazes me how ignorant some of you are. Everyone talks about how the NFL is going to reward the veterans when they get their rookie wage scale and YET, here’s a perfect example of how that WON’T happen.
    Most running backs are gone before their first contract is up and quite a few do outperform their rookie contract but they get an injury just before they were going to get their big money and they never get to cash in. Those that do make it past their rookie contract end up getting upgraded contracts but only for a few REAL years as nearly all are forced into restructering their contracts once they reach 30.
    The contract situation is a ONE-WAY street but people just don’t want to see it. Teams take a stance that they won’t renegotiate contracts and the PLAYER should honor it UNTIL they want the player to restructure his contract down and they’ll throw him to the wolves when he won’t.
    Gottal laugh at the PAYCUT guy because I wonder how many times YOU or any of your friends went into the office and did that very thing?

  35. Zinn says: May 18, 2010 1:10 PM

    If a players contract is higher than his performance a team will back out of that contract or threaten to do so in hopes of redoing the contract. There is no difference between that and a player holding out. But fans almost always back management in both cases.
    The problem for a player like Johnson is the shelf life of RBs is so short that many of them may never see a 2nd contract. Look at Leon Washington last year, former Jets MVP entering his 4th year making 500k. He wanted a contract like Darren Sproles and was asking for $5 million a year the Jets refused to go above $2 million (rumors were the Jets upped their offer Washington denied this and given Tannenbaum’s history with being called a liar we can guess who started the rumors) and then he brakes his leg. If reports are true he may never be his old self. Being a 4th round pick he may never have the opportunity to cash in.
    It is terribly unfortunate for RBs because of their short shelf life. These guys dedicate their lives to football and the ones that actual hit the lottery and make it have a very short time to cash in and set themselves up for their rest of their lives. Look at many old RBs like Earl Campbell they can barely walk. I have to wonder if Adrian Peterson is already going down that path with the hits he takes.
    Johnson is a small guy kudos to him on last year. I don’t blame him for wanting to cash in as soon as he can. Bottom line is if he gets hurt before his contract expires he becomes another Leon Washington and suddenly becomes an expendable journeyman back.
    Now if you want to argue is it smart for the Titans to pay him well thats another story. Backs have such a short shelf life its rare they are worth anything after 5 years. Many teams have the philosophy draft a new RB in the 3rd or 4th round every year and never in the 1st round because their lifespan is so short. It has worked quite well for the jets with Washington in the 4th, Greene in the 3rd and now McKnight in the 4th.
    Like another poster said maybe the Titans are best off trading Johnson. To that I would say no as they have aspirations of being a playoff contender. Their best option may be a middle ground. Give him a signing bonus extend his contract 2 years. Basically give him some extra money over the next two years but allow them to trade him/cut him after this or next year. Trading a guy like Johnson in his prime could end up returning a Hershel Walker like return. Can you imagine how much Dan Snyder, Jerry Jones or Al Davis would give for Chris Johnson? In the case of the raiders maybe enough draft picks and players to make Tennessee an immediate contender?

  36. CleanSlaton says: May 18, 2010 1:46 PM

    Chris Johnson must need ‘some mo gode teefs’

  37. brasho says: May 18, 2010 1:55 PM

    This all falls back on the player. If the player thinks he is going to be great and is going to outplay his contract but won’t be around to get a ton of money from a second deal… then don’t be a RB… and if you are, don’t sign a 5 year deal.
    What’s a dumbass like Johnson going to do with all of that extra money anyways? Put more gold in his nasty ass teeth? Get public speaking lessons? Seriously, two plus mil a year is pretty damn good money, he should try going out into the real world with his high school diploma, retarded looking grill, and idiotic lack of vocabulary, then come back and see if two million plus is enough.

  38. SHUTYOURFACE says: May 18, 2010 1:57 PM

    that east carolina education!
    chris johnson is such a smart, well spoken fella.
    give him more money!
    he wont eff up.(snicker)

  39. CYGNUS X-1 says: May 18, 2010 2:14 PM

    does anybody know how much he got for a signing bonus?you know the part of the contract that is guaranteed?sorry I have no sympathy for guys who sign a contract then have 1 great year and expect to get more.think he will give any of it back when he holds out then gets hurt when he does show up?

  40. finsbooyah says: May 18, 2010 2:43 PM

    Johnson says he should be the highest paid offensive player in the league, which is a joke if you ask me. No none QB should EVER be the highest paid offensive player.
    What if the Titans are willing to give him a raise, but to something of the tune of, say 6-8 million a year? That would be very fair for someone who has no real leverage. But if Johnson is serious about what he thinks his value is, he would never sign that contract. As a result, he holds out.
    If he really is hoping to be the highest paid offensive player in the league, he probably shouldn’t hold his breath

  41. CJCrazyLegs28 says: May 18, 2010 2:50 PM

    There’s absolutely no chance he signs now. He wants to be paid more than Peyton Manning – he’s not getting that after only one elite year. They could offer him some more money for now, but I doubt he’d take anything less than 20-25 million a year, which is a joke.

  42. Calgaryhawk says: May 18, 2010 2:57 PM

    You have to laugh at me because I say players never go into their FO and say they should have a paycut? You then say how many times do I do it?
    How about every year. My profession is performance based. I basically make 50% of everything I bring in to the firm. If I have a bad year my pay for the next year is based on what I did this year.
    So there’s your answer jerk. Just because you would take money you didn’t earn doesn’t mean all of us would.

  43. Juveputazo says: May 18, 2010 3:16 PM

    @GirthyOne you are the idiot and you don’t know what your talking about, if CJ turned out top be a JaMarcus then the Titans would have cut his ass a long time a go and nobody would have a problem with it. Its business, if they want the #1 running back in the NFL then they gotta pay up the #1 RB in the NFL.

  44. HarrisonHits says: May 18, 2010 3:20 PM

    Wow greedy past players supporting a greedy current player, what a shocker. Fu*k em. I hope the Titans don’t budge an inch on this and fine him to the max if he does hold out.

  45. Airjunior23 says: May 18, 2010 3:21 PM

    @ chapnasty
    I hate to even say what i’m about to say, because i’m not racist either more like fed up.
    But keep it real, look at all of the white-dominated positions and understand how much more well off these guys are (with the exception of kickers lol).
    I feel bad for the things that I am saying like slave drivers, but in hindsight I don’t care. It is true!
    The funny part about it is I know that everyone would ice themselves out if they got millions right now. I would. But i’m a more educated/play it safe kinda guy and i’m from east oakland, CA so I wouldn’t play stupid games with it. you might wind up hurt.
    Either way, if my endeavors and effort out play another man’s or my contract shouldn’t I be compensated. Look at the new quarterback breed. What have QB’s like Eli Manning, Rivers and Cutler really done. Yes they put fans in the seats, but Cutler and Rivers have nothing to show for their money but good stats. Eli won a championship but that was his worst year of his career barring his rookie year (everyone gets a gimme). In my eyes, that defense won that title. He only threw one good pass to plaxico. Bottom line, without his lineage, name and star power he is very average. They all make 90 million right now. The best contract for a RB is only like 6 million. Let my boy get paid man!!! lol

  46. edgy1957 says: May 18, 2010 3:41 PM

    CYGNUS X-1 says:
    does anybody know how much he got for a signing bonus
    According to USA Today, he got $250,000 as a signing bonus and $7 mil was guaranteed on a 5-year $12 mil contract.
    BTW, he’s had 2 great years out of 2. He had a 100 less carries in 2008 BUT he still averaged 4.9 yards per carry, which is only .6 less than what he averaged this year. He’s gained 1200+ yards more than anyone else in the first round and has 1000+ than anyone else in his class (Matt Forte). He has the smallest contract of anyone in the first round, except Felix Jones, who has more guaranteed money. The RB in the first round who has delivered the least bang for the buck is McFadden, whose guaranteed money is $26 mil on a 6-year $60 mil contract.
    Not directed at you but at the “geniuses” that keep saying that they shouldn’t be signing these 5-year contracts: if they don’t, they won’t get nearly the money that they got when they signed the contracts.
    Oh and for those that want to see more incentives in the contracts: what a foolish idea. That plays into management’s hand because they can and DO manipulate it so that a guy may not reach even the easy goals set in their contract. Voided years are the bane of management because it means that a guy can get out of a contract that locks him in for 5 or 6 years. On the other hand, they don’t have to honor a long term contract and they can let the guy go if he won’t play ball and acquiece to their demands. To put more incentives into the contract is to invite fraud on the part of ownership and don’t think that for one moment that they won’t do it, if they’ve got the chance.

  47. Calir says: May 18, 2010 4:06 PM

    The owner of the company I work for makes a lot of money of my division collectively. We either accept the money he offers us or we move on. There are no guaranteed contracts in the real world for the working class. Any real world employee would love to work under a guaranteed contract, one that we can negotiate and get money up front, instead of living under the constant issue of being laid off when the stock price isn’t where it should be. Pro athletes may have a short sports career but they make great money while they are doing it and then can pick and choose a new line of work when they are done. The smart ones probably will never have to work again. I do not shed a tear for athletes who believed two years ago that they got over on their owner and now do not feel respected. Sign shorter deals and quit the constant whining.

  48. granadafan says: May 18, 2010 6:03 PM

    Why should football players be set up for life in their first job out of college? People in the real switch jobs all the time. I studied for years to go to medical school, then I changed my mind and work in a completely unrelated field. Yes, I work for multi billion dollar company, but we don’t expect to set up for life. Athletes are no different in their line of business.

  49. Zinn says: May 18, 2010 7:24 PM

    # granadafan says: May 18, 2010 6:03 PM
    Why should football players be set up for life in their first job out of college? People in the real switch jobs all the time. I studied for years to go to medical school, then I changed my mind and work in a completely unrelated field. Yes, I work for multi billion dollar company, but we don’t expect to set up for life. Athletes are no different in their line of business.
    Athletes are quite different. Only a small percentage of them will ever get paid for a lifetime of work. Plus an athlete can only use his skills for a very short time. For example a NFL RB will likely only be able to use his skills for 4-5 years. To use your example would you invest all that time and money going to medical school if they told you that you could only practice for 5 years and only 1% of you would actually get during that 5 year period. For this effort your average lifespan would also be shortened by 20-25 years. Not a very good trade.
    I doubt NFL players are like lottery winners or the top of any field. I would much rather see the money go to them as they aged the blood each week and have much shorter lifespans because of their effort than the greedy owners who have never worked a real day in their lives.
    I will agree that NFL athletes are not the smartest members of society but then again neither are the posters on this board. But regardless they deserve the compensation they receive for the sacrifices they make. When they are done playing football their bodies will be worn out abused shells. Their minds will never have been given the chance to fully develop and any real work outside football will be severely limited. They better make the most of their 4-5 year career because for the most of them it will be all they will have to support them for the rest of their life.

  50. edgy1957 says: May 18, 2010 8:00 PM

    BTW, for those that continue to blame the players for signing 5 year contracts, here’s a little tidbit about changes to the rookie contracts courtesy of John Clayton:
    3. The maximum length of contracts for a rookie drafted in the first 16 selections in the first round is six years. The maximum contract for a rookie selected in picks 17 to 32 is five years. Players taken in rounds two through seven can’t be given a contract longer than four years. Teams have tried to force rookies taken in the second day of the draft to sign five-year deals
    It’s the TEAMS who are pushing for the long length contracts and NOT the players. Players and their agents really don’t want to give more than 4 years and that’s why you see voidable years in their contracts to get them to new deals sooner (Which makes Andre Johnson’s decision to try and save 3% seem silly because his agent probably whould have tried to talk him out of an 8 year contract, just as Owens’ agent should have tried to talk him out of taking that 7-year contract that caused all the problems with the Eagles).

  51. Steve W. says: May 19, 2010 6:13 AM

    For everyone using the “well, busts don’t give the money back” argument for why players like CJ should shut up and play out their contracts, you’re missing a very important point. Quite simply, the owners have all of the real decision making power in the NFL.
    They come together and draft players, meaning that coming out of college a drafted player can’t seek employment in major league pro football from anyone other than the team that drafted them. So, there is no free market for their talents upon entering the NFL. This being the case, it is the responsibility of the teams to adequately research the draft prospects. That’s what they pay all of those scouts and personnel staff to do. For everyone who wants to point to Russell as their argument, there were plenty of questions about his work ethic before he was drafted. The Raiders chose to select him first overall anyway, knowing the kind of contract they’d have to give him. Yes, Russell is a bust and a complete waste of money, but the Raiders organization brought this on itself.
    Furthermore, their rookie contracts are pretty much defined by where they are drafted. Their agents can negotiate various facets of the deal, but the basic payout and length of the contract is pretty much predetermined. Saying that they should feel honor bound to play out a contract they had little control over is a bit disingenuous.
    As I said, the real decision making power in the NFL lies with the owners. They offer the contracts, and they have no substantial competition. Since they have all the power, it’s only appropriate that they take the lion share of the risk. That is, after all, why they make the most money. In capitalism, the owners of the capital (money) make so much more than labor because they are the ones most at risk. If a business goes under, the worker loses his job and has to find a new one. The business owner, however, can lose a large part (or all) of his investment in the business. So, while I have no problem with the owners making so much more than the players who bring in the fans, I also can’t understand the people who wine about what happens when the owners take a risk and it backfires on them.

  52. NoseBleedFan says: May 20, 2010 9:11 AM

    CJ received $7 million as a signing bonus as a rookie. What if he blew his knee out in his very first practice with the team after being drafted? Would we be having this same conversation about tearing up contracts if he was damaged goods?…

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