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	<title>Comments on: Grove&#039;s gig isn&#039;t guaranteed</title>
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		<title>By: Ray Guy</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/21/groves-gig-isnt-guaranteed/#comment-624726</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 17:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#  BENITO says:  May 22, 2010 9:21 AM
&quot;if he was that good the raiders never would have let him go&quot; -snnyjcbs
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yea the raiders never make any dumb personel decisions!!!!
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At least we can say we&#039;re making less of the stupid ones lately.
You still have Jake Grove at big money, so good luck getting 6 games a year out of him before he gets hurt.    It&#039;s a repeating cycle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#  BENITO says:  May 22, 2010 9:21 AM<br />
&#8220;if he was that good the raiders never would have let him go&#8221; -snnyjcbs<br />
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yea the raiders never make any dumb personel decisions!!!!<br />
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At least we can say we&#8217;re making less of the stupid ones lately.<br />
You still have Jake Grove at big money, so good luck getting 6 games a year out of him before he gets hurt.    It&#8217;s a repeating cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: BENITO</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/21/groves-gig-isnt-guaranteed/#comment-624725</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BENITO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 09:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;if he was that good the raiders never would have let him go&quot; -snnyjcbs
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yea the raiders never make any dumb personel decisions!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;if he was that good the raiders never would have let him go&#8221; -snnyjcbs<br />
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yea the raiders never make any dumb personel decisions!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Muck</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 07:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grove wasn&#039;t a bust.
He played quite well last year before getting hurt.  But there was little/no drop-off when Berger stepped in last year.
It&#039;s indeed a competition.  Sparano himself said so this week, and that they will continue alternating who&#039;s &#039;up&#039; each day in practice.
As my friend CK has hypothesized, the Dolphins could be in Pay-Go mode.  And subtracting Grove&#039;s contract could mean adding one for O.J. Otogwe pretty soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grove wasn&#8217;t a bust.<br />
He played quite well last year before getting hurt.  But there was little/no drop-off when Berger stepped in last year.<br />
It&#8217;s indeed a competition.  Sparano himself said so this week, and that they will continue alternating who&#8217;s &#8216;up&#8217; each day in practice.<br />
As my friend CK has hypothesized, the Dolphins could be in Pay-Go mode.  And subtracting Grove&#8217;s contract could mean adding one for O.J. Otogwe pretty soon.</p>
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		<title>By: texasPHINSfan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[texasPHINSfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 03:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Meh.
While i&#039;ll agree the front office hasn&#039;t been stellar in free agency, i think this is a poor case for that argument.  Both players are good - one just got injured last year.
Of course you also realize that absent the star players, most positions are &quot;up for grabs&quot; in the offseason.  It&#039;s all just talk to push the players and keep them from becoming comfortable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh.<br />
While i&#8217;ll agree the front office hasn&#8217;t been stellar in free agency, i think this is a poor case for that argument.  Both players are good &#8211; one just got injured last year.<br />
Of course you also realize that absent the star players, most positions are &#8220;up for grabs&#8221; in the offseason.  It&#8217;s all just talk to push the players and keep them from becoming comfortable.</p>
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		<title>By: Ripp</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/21/groves-gig-isnt-guaranteed/#comment-624722</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 01:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Smiley nor Groves are bust. Might be injury plagued but not bust. With that said I think if Berger equals the play of Groves, then Groves will be cut  or traded. Why? Because it is the perfect time to get rid of players with big contracts. A good  sign of that is that fact they brought in Cory Proctor in for a try out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smiley nor Groves are bust. Might be injury plagued but not bust. With that said I think if Berger equals the play of Groves, then Groves will be cut  or traded. Why? Because it is the perfect time to get rid of players with big contracts. A good  sign of that is that fact they brought in Cory Proctor in for a try out.</p>
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		<title>By: bill s</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/21/groves-gig-isnt-guaranteed/#comment-624721</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bill s]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 00:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The real problem is no one PFT knows very much about pro foot ball, so get some one who knows what they are talking about. Bill]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real problem is no one PFT knows very much about pro foot ball, so get some one who knows what they are talking about. Bill</p>
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		<title>By: snnyjcbs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[snnyjcbs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 23:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I tried to tell all that would listen about Groves. There was a reason that the Raiders never made him a big offer when he became a Free Agent.
In Oakland he always was hurt and he was never the big physical center able to take on the big nose guys in the 3-4. Great kid but Miami way over payed for this guy and if he was as good as Miami thought the Raiders never would have let him go.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to tell all that would listen about Groves. There was a reason that the Raiders never made him a big offer when he became a Free Agent.<br />
In Oakland he always was hurt and he was never the big physical center able to take on the big nose guys in the 3-4. Great kid but Miami way over payed for this guy and if he was as good as Miami thought the Raiders never would have let him go.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 22:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[C&#039;mon, anyone who has followed this regime knows that &#039;depth&#039; charts this time of year are bogus.  Last year at this time, Shawn Murphy was the &quot;starting&quot; RG....he never even made the final 53 roster....
Just another Salguero idiotic article....please...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon, anyone who has followed this regime knows that &#8216;depth&#8217; charts this time of year are bogus.  Last year at this time, Shawn Murphy was the &#8220;starting&#8221; RG&#8230;.he never even made the final 53 roster&#8230;.<br />
Just another Salguero idiotic article&#8230;.please&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jeremyb91</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/21/groves-gig-isnt-guaranteed/#comment-624718</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jeremyb91]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 22:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s an honest opinion by this writer to suggest the Dolphins could be looking at another C, one who stays healthy.
Al Davis realized Groves wasn&#039;t a C who can stay healthy for a full year so he let him go. It wasn&#039;t because he&#039;s not talented, he&#039;s just injury prone at a volatile position that needs consistency.
Al Davis also let Gibril Wilson go. Kind of funny how the old man can still make some good decisions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an honest opinion by this writer to suggest the Dolphins could be looking at another C, one who stays healthy.<br />
Al Davis realized Groves wasn&#8217;t a C who can stay healthy for a full year so he let him go. It wasn&#8217;t because he&#8217;s not talented, he&#8217;s just injury prone at a volatile position that needs consistency.<br />
Al Davis also let Gibril Wilson go. Kind of funny how the old man can still make some good decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: FinfanJim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FinfanJim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 21:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grove wasn&#039;t a bust last year. He just gets hurt. And Berger is a good player. A former Saban pick that he lost to roster shuffling...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grove wasn&#8217;t a bust last year. He just gets hurt. And Berger is a good player. A former Saban pick that he lost to roster shuffling&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BRUTUS9448</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BRUTUS9448]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 21:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The phins centers were good last year. Just because the dolphins like to have competition to push their players doesn&#039;t make the players busts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The phins centers were good last year. Just because the dolphins like to have competition to push their players doesn&#8217;t make the players busts.</p>
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		<title>By: I MURDER HOES/187403</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I MURDER HOES/187403]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 21:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Which team was more stupid (or foolish)? The first team that gave Gibril (cant hate him too much, we went to the same HS) and Grove the chance/$ or tje 2nd team?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which team was more stupid (or foolish)? The first team that gave Gibril (cant hate him too much, we went to the same HS) and Grove the chance/$ or tje 2nd team?</p>
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		<title>By: thejoz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thejoz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 21:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is some BS &quot;reporting&quot;.
Armando reported what he saw, and he suggested that maybe Grove &quot;had underperformed&quot; and/or that Berger &quot;had overperformed&quot; last year.
Yes, he did suggest that something might be amiss here given the dollar figures each man has earned so far.
He does suggest that this is a &quot;competition&quot; but where did he cite one team source that said it was?
He didn&#039;t.
For you to suggest that Grove is somehow not the starting center based on this small shred of evidence is a bit of a stretch and it&#039;s pretty stupid IMO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is some BS &#8220;reporting&#8221;.<br />
Armando reported what he saw, and he suggested that maybe Grove &#8220;had underperformed&#8221; and/or that Berger &#8220;had overperformed&#8221; last year.<br />
Yes, he did suggest that something might be amiss here given the dollar figures each man has earned so far.<br />
He does suggest that this is a &#8220;competition&#8221; but where did he cite one team source that said it was?<br />
He didn&#8217;t.<br />
For you to suggest that Grove is somehow not the starting center based on this small shred of evidence is a bit of a stretch and it&#8217;s pretty stupid IMO.</p>
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