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The ins and outs of the Super Bowl location vote

With the signs pointing to New York/New Jersey landing the 2014 Super Bowl, the complaints already are coming from Central Florida.

Ira Kaufman of the Tampa Tribune, a publication located in one of the three cities vying for the privilege of hosting the game, believes that the vote “appears to be rigged” for New York.

It wouldn’t be the first time, or the last.  In many instances, the vote is a mere formality.  For some cities, hosting a Super Bowl became the back end of the quid pro quo premised on full or partial public funding of the stadium where the game is played. 

Regardless, the owners do what they choose to do, and if the owners developing an advance sense as to the manner in which they’ll vote means that the vote has been rigged, then so be it.

But we mention Kaufman’s column primarily because it implies that only a simple majority is necessary to deliver the victory.  Though he’s basically right, the process is slightly more involved.  NFL V.P. of corporate communications Brian McCarthy has supplied us with more details.

All voting will occur by secret ballot, McCarthy said via e-mail.  The first vote will include all three locations — New York/New Jersey, Tampa Bay, and South Florida.  If one of the three gets 75 percent of the 32 votes (that’s 24 for those of you who, like us, are mathematically challenged), the process ends.

If no location gets 24 the first time around, they do it again.  If no city gets 24 votes on the second vote, the third-place finisher falls out of the running.

Then, the owners vote again with only two locations in the running.  If one location gets 24, the process ends.  If neither gets 24 votes, a final tally is taken, and the simple majority prevails.

As a practical matter, 17 votes will get it done for New York if those 17 owners are dug in and don’t change their minds.  If those same 17 cast the same vote every time, the 17 will be enough to deliver the Super Bowl.

There’s also a chance that, in the end, one final vote will be taken in the hopes of getting everyone on board with the process, or at a minimum to create the impression via a 32-0 outcome that all owners are equally comfortable with the notion of playing the game under circumstances that could make everyone involved incredibly uncomfortable.

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31 Responses to “The ins and outs of the Super Bowl location vote”
  1. dabarber says: May 23, 2010 2:32 PM

    Why don’t they just play every single game in Florida amd Texas if everyone is so scared of the cold during the last game?

  2. dabarber says: May 23, 2010 2:35 PM

    The 2 billion people NOT at the the game could give a crap less where it is played.
    Let them play in Antartica or Africa. What do I care? I will be watching it on TV anyway.

  3. Bob S. says: May 23, 2010 2:37 PM

    Re: Then, the owners vote again with only two locations in the running. If one location gets 24, the process ends. If neither gets 24 votes, a final tally is taken, and the simple majority prevails.
    As a practical matter, 17 votes will get it done for New York if those 17 owners are dug in and don’t change their minds. If those same 17 cast the same vote every time, the 17 will be enough to deliver the Super Bowl.

    WHAT ON EARTH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? With only 2 cities left in the running what difference does iyt make if the highest vote getter has 24 votes or 17 votes? All you are saying is whoever has 17 votes will win, so you assume that owners who want NOT the game in NYC can’t dig themselves in with their own 17 votes?

  4. ampats says: May 23, 2010 2:42 PM

    There is alot of despair in Central Florida today !

  5. realitypolice says: May 23, 2010 2:45 PM

    This is a joke. I live in the NY/NJ area, and I still think that having the game here is a terrible idea. It has nothing to do with the merits of playing the game in bad weather- it has to do with the fact the stadium is across the river in a different state than where everybody going to the game will be. Getting from Manhattan to the Meadowlands is a traffic nightmare on a good day- forget about during a snowstorm.
    On Super Bowl Sunday this past year, the area experienced one of the worst blizzards in years. Many of the highways that people would have used to get from the Hotels in NYC to the stadium were flat-out closed that day. Had the game been here, the NFL would have suffered the embarrasment of a mostly empty stadium at kickoff, and a nightmare of a problem keeping the field clear enough to even play on.
    And what about the half time show????? I know most people who visit this site could care less, but I guarantee the network cares.
    Just a bad idea all around.

  6. Mean D says: May 23, 2010 2:57 PM

    Who cares if all the Super Bowl attendees freeze their butts off at the game? Thai is where King Roger wants it and he will be in a heated suite.

  7. realitypolice says: May 23, 2010 3:00 PM

    dabarber says:
    May 23, 2010 2:32 PM
    Why don’t they just play every single game in Florida amd Texas if everyone is so scared of the cold during the last game?
    ==========
    It’s not the cold people are scared of. It’s a snow storm closing down the highways and bridges going from Manhattan to the Meadowlands (which happened on SB Sunday this year) that people are correctly worried about.
    Why temp fate? If there is a town with a hospitality business that DOESN’T need the boost of a SB, it’s NYC.

  8. Zaggs says: May 23, 2010 3:07 PM

    Someone from Tampa or Miami complaining about New York getting a superbowl is retarded. Its not like either city is going for their first superbowl. They’ve had plenty. A successful New York bowl opens the field for future SB’s to northern and midwest teams which have been screwed for awhile now.

  9. Anybodyhome says: May 23, 2010 3:10 PM

    I, for one, will have no problem with the Jets hosting a Super Bowl…

  10. Company CEO says: May 23, 2010 3:18 PM

    I’m having a hard time believing that anyone in there right mind would consider conducting the Super Bowl in New York or any other cold-weather location. In all likelihood all of the players, officials, entertainers, vendors, and attending spectators will be miserable! Perhaps worse, if the weather is really bad, the game will be BORING as hell — three yards and a cloud of snow, rain, mud, fog, or what have you. Does “NFL Inc.” really believe that fans not attending the game will watch such a fiasco in preference to more-entertaining alternatives? I for one won’t bother to watch — and I have NEVER before missed watching a Super Bowl.

  11. Juan says: May 23, 2010 3:25 PM

    WHAT ON EARTH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? With only 2 cities left in the running what difference does iyt make if the highest vote getter has 24 votes or 17 votes? All you are saying is whoever has 17 votes will win, so you assume that owners who want NOT the game in NYC can’t dig themselves in with their own 17 votes?
    —————————————————-
    There are only 32 teams, thus if 17 votes say yes only 15 votes can say no.

  12. Gratt says: May 23, 2010 3:49 PM

    There’s entertaining playoff games played in the snow all the time (remember the tuck rule game). I say give it to New York and maybe other cold weather cities in the future.

  13. Bob S. says: May 23, 2010 3:58 PM

    Juan says:
    There are only 32 teams, thus if 17 votes say yes only 15 votes can say no.

    exactly what i was inferring in a TWO TEAM VOTE which is what I commented on.
    BTW- What about all those seat license suckers of each team who helped build this stadium – are they getting tickets to their seat licensed seats?

  14. phillyfan03 says: May 23, 2010 4:44 PM

    let some cold weather teams have some super bowls…football was meant to be outdoors more than any other sport so basically what im saying is…….bring the super bowl to philly!!!!!

  15. mrzazz41387 says: May 23, 2010 4:45 PM

    IT IS MORE LIKELY THAT LIGHTNING AND RAIN TAKE DOWN THE SUPER BOWL IN FLORIDA THAN A BLIZZARD IN NY/NJ. I CAN COUNT THE NUMBER OF BLIZZARDS THAT HIT THIS AREA IN THE LAST 20 YEARS WITH MY EARS. SNOW IS POSSIBLE, BUT A BLIZZARD IS FAR LESS LIKELY THAN LIGHTNING IN FLORIDA. WHICH IS ONE OF THE TOP STATES FOR RAIN/LIGHTNING STORMS.

  16. ncsteeler says: May 23, 2010 4:47 PM

    The sportwriters seemed to the ones most concerned about cold weather. For them south Fla. is a much better vacation than even NYC in Feb. I assume there are hotels in NJ, so why not stay there? There are weather forcasts that despite all the joking were pretty accurate about predicting this year’s snow storms. If necessary make two hotel reservations – party in NYC and if it looks like snow go to NJ a day ahead of time and eat the cancellation fees. I’m sure ESPN, SI, etc. can cover it.

  17. AcidSoda says: May 23, 2010 4:56 PM

    At Company CEO
    “and I have NEVER before missed watching a Super Bowl.”
    If you didn’t watch the Giants beat the Pats a couple of years ago and the Steelers and Cards game you missed some helluva games. The Giants especially… one of the best sporting games I’ve seen, ever.

  18. Fantavet says: May 23, 2010 5:00 PM

    I can definitley see a blizzard being a issue. Now the NHL pulled off the Winter Classic at Fenway Park. Granted, not even close to the event that is the Super Bowl, but still the NHL tempted fate with weather and won.
    Classic NFL playoff games have been played in cold weather but you have a true home team, with the season ticket/fan base, so it works. The Super Bowl? With the prices are we really talking hard core fans? Never been to one but it appears the game itself caps off a week long party for corporate execs. The golf outings, the good weather, the vacation atmosphere. In NY it will work the first time because of the novelty. But for future cold weather sites will people keep shelling out that type of money to freeze?

  19. Bious says: May 23, 2010 5:21 PM

    What a joke
    We get a SB that is going to be dictated by freezing snow and terrible temps….rather than how either team plays on the field
    I feel bad for whatever two teams are forced to play through that crap

  20. MasterShake says: May 23, 2010 5:27 PM

    Retractable roofs. They want all teams to have this capability. That way, you can have a S.B. in any city regardless of the climate. If it snows, shut it, if it rains to heavily, shut it, if it’s way to sunny, shut it. If not, play ball. This is exactly why we see issues with current teams and them possibly moving etc….. San Diego, Minnesota, Oakland, S.F., they all have micro-climate issues and of course fan issues, but the NFL wants to ensure that if they spend anymore money on stadiums, they are able to make money. Dallas is the prime example. The TV is stupid, but the thought process is exactly what the NFL wants and needs.

  21. buckeyes3413 says: May 23, 2010 5:27 PM

    When you say “like us, are mathematically challenged”… I assume the “us” you are referring to is West Virginians??

  22. SATAN says: May 23, 2010 5:35 PM

    Of course it’s rigged!!! Why do you think Arizona dropped out of the running for 2014 MONTHS ago!!!

  23. realitypolice says: May 23, 2010 7:50 PM

    Fantavet says:
    May 23, 2010 5:00 PM
    I can definitley see a blizzard being a issue. Now the NHL pulled off the Winter Classic at Fenway Park. Granted, not even close to the event that is the Super Bowl, but still the NHL tempted fate with weather and won.
    =============
    The key difference between that game, and for that matter, the Super Bowls in Detroit and the one that will be in Indy, is that those stadiums are located downtown, near all of the hotels and people. In the event of bad weather, people can still get to the game. The Meadowlands is nowhere near the downtown NYC area.

  24. Slow Joe says: May 23, 2010 7:51 PM

    Hey, maybe the following year they can play the Super Bowl in Sun Devil Stadium in July.

  25. Pier588 says: May 23, 2010 8:52 PM

    Zaggs = You must be referring to yourself when you say “Someone that made that ignorant comment up above using your moniker – is retarded.”
    mrzazz41387 – thanks for giving 1/2 of the Florida weather lesson. You’re actually correct – Florida is the top state when it comes to lightening. Thing is – most of it occurs in the rainy season every afternoon from May – Oct. There’s a better chance of a New Jersey blizzard in February than there is a lightening storm at any of the Florida Super Bowl sites.
    If New Jersey/New York wanted the Super Bowl – they should have put a roof on any one of “three” new stadiums built in the area over the last 5 years. No retractable roof = no Super Bowl for NJ/NY.

  26. goodjuan says: May 23, 2010 9:45 PM

    I’ll be looking forward to Super Bowls in Green Bay and Buffalo some time soon. Spread the wealth.

  27. bill s says: May 23, 2010 11:42 PM

    I say if the owners are stupid and greedy enough to pick New Jersey, then I can only hope for a blizzard on game day and let them suffer the lose and embarrassment, and the TV folks may have a hard time selling commercials because fans at home will be laughing there ass off at this joke. Bill

  28. 55horses says: May 24, 2010 12:12 AM

    Green Bay will never get a SB–too few hotel rooms.
    If the NFL is going to start doling out SBs to certain bad weather cities, it seems fair to start spreading other NFL events, like the draft and combine to other cities with NFL stadiums. Why does the draft have to be in NY every year and the combine in Indianapolis?

  29. vman0626 says: May 24, 2010 12:30 AM

    if it weren’t for the mara family there’d be no nfl!!!
    ny is the media capital of the world.
    football is an all-weather game.
    the league is always seeking new ways to broaden
    its market and expand interest. this is one of them.
    stop your whining and look at the big picture.

  30. vman0626 says: May 24, 2010 12:37 AM

    wait – wait – WAIT !!!!!!!!!! who monitors this site?
    ‘realitypolice’ wrote…..”On Super Bowl Sunday this past year, the area experienced one of the worst blizzards in years…”
    i implore anyone/everyone who reads this site to check the
    weather forecast in nyc/nj that day. this person is lying. how
    pathetic to lie about something which can be factually checked
    simply for the purpose of trying to prove a point.
    in fact, the average feb 1st thru 10th temperature in ny/nj for
    the past ten years has been 42 degrees. there are rarely blizzards
    anyplace.

  31. realitypolice says: May 24, 2010 8:26 AM

    vman0626 says:
    May 24, 2010 12:37 AM
    wait – wait – WAIT !!!!!!!!!! who monitors this site?
    ‘realitypolice’ wrote…..”On Super Bowl Sunday this past year, the area experienced one of the worst blizzards in years…”
    i implore anyone/everyone who reads this site to check the
    weather forecast in nyc/nj that day. this person is lying. how
    pathetic to lie about something which can be factually checked
    simply for the purpose of trying to prove a point.
    ====================
    I double checked my facts- and you are right. I had my dates wrong. The snowstorm was February 10th, not Super Bowl Sunday. My apologies for getting the date wrong. But don’t get your panties in such a knot, douchebag- do you think I would purposely lie about something so easily checked?
    I wasn’t lying to make a point, I simply made an error. It doesn’t change my point- if a snowstorm of that size occurs on SB Sunday in the NY/NJ area, it will not be the same as if it happens in other cold weather cities where the stadiums are downtown. It will be a logistical disaster- it is hard enough to get from Manhattan (where all of the big wigs with SB tickets will be staying) to the Meadowlands on the best of days. Throw in even a moderate to heavy amount of snow or freezing rain and the results will disasterous.
    And the can of worms being opened here is also a consideration. Why do you think owners like Robert Kraft, Dan Snyder, Pat Bowlen, and Dan Rooney are supporting this?
    “If they can do it NY, what about my city?”

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