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PFT Daily: New York Super Bowl would be a mistake

In politics, the smart move is to support the horse that seems poised to win.

Fortunately, I’m rarely accused of being smart.

After initially being excited about the prospects of a New York Super Bowl, reality has set in.  The Super Bowl means too much to treat it like a game of Russian roulette with the one live round being the arrival of a heavy dose of Siberia on the morning of the game.  So even though it looks like New York will be securing the right to host Super Bowl XLVIII, I’m officially against it.

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81 Responses to “PFT Daily: New York Super Bowl would be a mistake”
  1. NoKoolaidCowboy says: May 25, 2010 9:04 AM

    Wuss. Come on Florio. This sounds morelike business man thinking than football fan.

  2. milehiclown says: May 25, 2010 9:07 AM

    This is neither news nor rumor. Right?

  3. TheDPR says: May 25, 2010 9:08 AM

    Boo hoo. Rich people might get cold.
    A winter Super Bowl should be no different than a winter conference championship game. You play with the weather you’re dealt.

  4. BroncosfanBR says: May 25, 2010 9:11 AM

    If there is a 2014…according to every conspiracy nut on the planet we all die in 2012.
    An outdoor Super Bowl wouldn’t be a horrible idea…if it was in Tampa or somewhere in California where the odds of it being a cold crappy day are slim to non-existent.
    I’m from New York and best believe I wouldn’t be willing to pay 2 grand for the right to freeze my ass off. It’s cold as hell in February and I guarantee there’s no way that changes in the next 3 years.

  5. Big Papi says: May 25, 2010 9:11 AM

    Like the owners care what you think!

  6. Bucfs says: May 25, 2010 9:12 AM

    In politics, jackasses vote in the same retards all the time
    on PFT, Florio talks out of his ass all the time, much like politics

  7. mustbechris says: May 25, 2010 9:14 AM

    that’s stupid though. i’d say the superbowl in jacksonville and the colts-bears superbowl in miami were both disasters for very different reasons. if they shouldn’t be “risking” elements, then shouldn’t every superbowl be played in a dome? you never know, there could be steady rain in tampa and mild temperatures in new (jersey) that weekend.

  8. Ryan_Mack says: May 25, 2010 9:14 AM

    That is ridiculous.
    It’s a shame that those teams who must fight through sleet and rain and snow to make a playoff berth will never get the chance to host a Superbowl.
    Has Pittsburgh (6 Championships. More than any other team) not earned the right to the profits and pride of hosting their own Superbowl.
    There have been many memorable regular season / playoff games that have been played in bad weather. The offchance that the odd time the Superbowl is played in a Northern team during bad weather is slim enough.
    Even on that odd chance. If some fan is not willing to pay $2000 for their ticket for a SUPERBOWL because they might get chilly then they aren’t real fans and there will be 15 people behind them (especially in NYC) that would gladly take their seat.
    It’s getting boring watching the SB played in the same 6 cities. Miami, Tampa, Arizona, Jacksonville, New Orleans, rinse, repeat, yawn.

  9. realitypolice says: May 25, 2010 9:18 AM

    This hurts. It causes me great pain to say this. Florio, you’re rrrrr……rrrriiii…..right. Wow. Thank God I don’t have to do that too often.
    Of course, you being you, you exagerrate crazily (it’s never 20 below zero in NY) and continue to miss a main point (see below) but you are dead on the money here.
    Forget the fact that it will be a lousy game or that the fat cats who buy the tickets won’t be comfortable. The main reason you can’t have a SB in the Meadowlands is that if there is a major snow storm in the area that day (and we had 3 major snowstorms here this year, so stop telling me it doesn’t happen) the tunnels, bridges and highways that people in New York City use to get to the Meadowlands Complex will be a hopeless traffic nightmare. Those fat cats won’t have an opportunity to be uncomfortable in their $2000 seats BECAUSE THEY WON’T BE ABLE TO GET TO THE STADIUM.
    This is different than Indy or Detroit where the stadiums are right downtown. Manhattan to the Meadowlands if a half hour trip on the sunniest and warmest days. If we get 12-18 inches of snow that day- WHICH HAPPENED THREE TIMES THAT I REMEMBER THIS YEAR- TV viewers around the country will be treated to a 6-3 Super Bowl played in a 3/4 empty stadium.
    Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

  10. BIG BLUE in tx says: May 25, 2010 9:19 AM

    And here I’ve mistaken you for a football fan florio. Completely my mistake. The game will be sold out regardless of the weather, but it would be great if the weather were so bad that only the true fans showed up, not those pussy fair weather fans. The worse the weather the better the game and the better chance a real fan will get to enjoy the Super Bowl instead of some corporate lap dog that tossed his boss’ salad.
    As mentioned before some of the best playoff games have been in rough weather, why should the THE GAME be out of the elements? The NFL will get their money from all of the sponsors, NBC (or who ever broadcasts it) will get their commercial revenue, everyone will watch it. So who loses? The suits who rob real fans of their seats? F’em!

  11. geogibso says: May 25, 2010 9:20 AM

    They play Russian roulette with the weather everytime the SB is played outdoors. Why does everyone in the media forget SB 41? Football is played in all conditions. Those conditions affect both teams equally, its just part of the game.

  12. jj jones says: May 25, 2010 9:21 AM

    You mean New Jersey Super Bowl, right?
    Here is my thought. Bring on the cold weather. If the famous people and corporate folks don’t like it, don’t go. If you open those thousands of seats, they can be filled by actual fans of the teams playing in the game.

  13. downwithdansnyder says: May 25, 2010 9:22 AM

    “In politics, the smart move is to support the horse that seems poised to win.”
    Umm…and you aren’t in politics.

  14. cervach says: May 25, 2010 9:23 AM

    Well I guess the nfl scheduler keeps forgetting to scheduke the season for late spring/summer every year. Come on Florio. Football is a cold weather sport. That’s why the season runs the whole winter. Every year.
    If you want a warm weather sport go watch baseball or basketball. Its a damn shame what pansies everyone has turned into. “Its too coldddddd” pfft. I hope it snows two feet when the bowl is in new york. After all the complaining and whining from rich fair weather fans is over it will go down as the most beautiful super bowl in history.

  15. overkil2 says: May 25, 2010 9:23 AM

    If the commish was bitching because it rained in Miami during the Bears vs Colts SB, wtf do you think he is going to do when it snows.
    I agree, don’t coddle the idiots willing to fork out 2K+ for a package. If you play all your games outside, why not play the SB there too, but don’t try to strongarm Miami into getting a retractable roof either.

  16. Krow says: May 25, 2010 9:23 AM

    I hope it snows like a f’k… high winds too.

  17. SC21 says: May 25, 2010 9:24 AM

    Oh no! All the corporate CEOs and media whores who get to actually go to the Super Bowl might freeze their balls off watching the game! Poor Babies.
    I have an idea: if you’re really worried it will be too cold for them, why not give away (or sell at some non-insane price) all the tickets to REAL football fans. The fans who deal with cold weather games all the time, who relish the elements as part of the game. I promise that they’ll be glad to brave a little snow and wind in order to watch the freaking Super Bowl.
    Vince Lombardi would be ashamed that there were people saying it may be too cold to play football for the trophy with his name on it.

  18. Albert040907 says: May 25, 2010 9:24 AM

    The weather is the stupidest argument on the face of this earth. Who the hell cares? It rained like hell in Miami a few superbowls ago, and for the probowl it rained this year it rained. Personally playing in harsh conditions is part of the game. It could Rain in tampa and Miami, you never know. The only way to combat weather is playing in a dome or retractable roof stadium all the superbowls.

  19. realitypolice says: May 25, 2010 9:25 AM

    TheDPR says:
    May 25, 2010 9:08 AM
    Boo hoo. Rich people might get cold.
    A winter Super Bowl should be no different than a winter conference championship game. You play with the weather you’re dealt.
    ===============
    Actually, there is a difference that shouldn’t be too difficult to understand. Conference championship games are played in the home city of the team with the best record. Cold weather teams earn the right to play that game at home by winning during the regular season. A warm weather team forced to play a conference championship game in the snow has no one to blame but themselves for not having a better record.
    Here is a hypothetical situation: Green Bay goes 10-6, barely makes the playoffs, then has a miracle run to the SB. Indy, a dome team, goes 15-1 and blows everybody away. Then they get to the Meadowlands, and there is 12 inches of snow on the ground. Green Bay, clearly the lesser team, gets handed a huge advantage it didn’t earn and doesn’t deserve. That’s not fair and the league should avoid the possibility by not having the game in the Meadowlands.

  20. mrzazz41387 says: May 25, 2010 9:26 AM

    You are probably more likely to get rain in Florida than snow in Jersey. I think other than Washington and Georgia, Florida gets the most rain… and also thunder and lightning

  21. Tcostant says: May 25, 2010 9:29 AM

    A mistake? For who. media who don’t like the cold. This game is very likely to played around 40 degrees, get over all the snow talk.
    As for the teams, it no different than a cold weather team playing a Super Bowl in a dome.
    The fans will come – no issue there, and if the scapers can’t make the tickets up as much, who cares.

  22. Cleric John Preston says: May 25, 2010 9:31 AM

    Seriously, the NFL has become too soft. Too corporate, too family oriented.
    If you can’t sit out in cold weather for a game, you shouldn’t be watching a football game in the 1st place.
    2nd, both teams on teh field deal with the bad weather. If there is snow or rain, both teams deal with it.
    I don’t think the Colts win their superbowl if it doesn’t start raining in Miami and the bears couldn’t tackle after that, which shows you that 1) weather doesn’t always benefit the team you think it will and 2) putting the SB in warm weather doesn’t guarantee anything.

  23. east96street. says: May 25, 2010 9:32 AM

    Florio, can you name ONE time when it was 50 below in NYC? The coldest day in the ENTIRE 20th Century was 13 below and it happened in 1934. The average temperature in NYC in February is 40 as a high, 27 as a low. New York has a humid subtropical climate (Köppen Cfa), and using the 0 °C standard, it is the northernmost major city in North America with this type of climate. Winters are cold, and prevailing wind patterns that blow offshore minimizes the effect of the Atlantic Ocean. Yet, the Atlantic Ocean keeps the city warmer in the winter than inland North American cities located at similar latitudes such as Chicago, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. The average temperature in January, the area’s coldest month, is 32.1 °F (0.1 °C). However temperatures in winter could for few days be as low as 10 °F (−12 °C) and as high as the 50s °F (10-15 °C).
    I understand you’re an ignorant hick from West Virginia and your law degree came from a school that ranks up there with DeVry for academic standards, but spending a few seconds researching topics you know nothing about would really help you come off as less of a jackass.

  24. Pier588 says: May 25, 2010 9:33 AM

    The Stupid Bowl comes to New Giant Stadium – and they get 2 feet of snow the day of the game and the whole thing is canceled. Then all those fans can sit around for a week hoping the weather will clear enough for one day to actually play the game. Finally 12 days after the fact – the two teams play the game in Indy with no fans present on a Thursday afternoon.
    NJ Super Bowl = very bad idea.
    If NJ gets the SB this afternoon – I hope they get the very worst weather possible before, during and after the game and make it into the worst Super Bowl in the history of the game.
    The only good thing about an NJ SB – no JETS fans will be in attendance.

  25. Krow says: May 25, 2010 9:36 AM

    realitypolice… I get what you’re saying, but one could also argue that a cold-weather team… built around a running game and a tough defense… is at a disadvantage playing warm weather, open offense, dome-oriented teams in traditional Superbowl venues.
    It can go both ways…

  26. Zach says: May 25, 2010 9:37 AM

    Wow, I never want to hear how football players are real athletes who dont stop for anything, then you guys cry that it might get too cold.

  27. vanhelsing says: May 25, 2010 9:38 AM

    i’ll take the under. probly the dog too.
    i say dont play it in NY just for punitive reasons.
    it’s a hellhole.

  28. wvugrad00 says: May 25, 2010 9:38 AM

    The SB should be a rotation between all teams stadiums and not just a select few. If it snows or rains to f’ing bad deal with it.

  29. BaltimoreSports says: May 25, 2010 9:39 AM

    Weather is actually a decent argument. We got a ton of snow this year in the North East. There was a foot a snow on the ground almost all winter.
    We had at least one serious storm with 2 feet of snow during regular season. It was a nightmare getting in to Baltimore for the game. That was just 70,000 fans. There was talk that the Bears might actually forfeit the game because they couldn’t get to Baltimore. I’m setting my self up for a Baltimore joke, but the city actually released some nonviolent criminals early to help shovel the game.
    The game still did happen though. So a Super Bowl in bad weather would be possible, you still have to take in to account the slim possibility of a winter storm and the impact it would have.

  30. east96street. says: May 25, 2010 9:39 AM

    Ryan_Mack says: “Has Pittsburgh (6 Championships. More than any other team) not earned the right to the profits and pride of hosting their own Superbowl.”
    Giants have seven Championships. Green Bay has 12. Chicago 9. Despite your ignorance, I fully support a Pittsburgh Super Bowl IF you assclowns fix that turf. My son’s Elementary School has better turf and it holds up under bad weather better than Pittsburgh’s does.

  31. 8man says: May 25, 2010 9:46 AM

    Can’t really say I love New York or New Jersey being a Boston fan, but now I really want to see this happen.
    Assuming the world doesn’t end in 2012, of course. I know one thing, it won’t end if this game is played some place other than Florida(15 times), California(11) or Louisiana(10) for once.

  32. NYBearsFan says: May 25, 2010 9:47 AM

    Florio, I agree with a lot of stuff on this site and I’m a huge fan, but I’ve gotta say you’re dead wrong on this one. I can’t watch the video since I’m at work, but I’m figuring it’s all centered around the weather being completely unpredictable. OK.
    Football is a game that can be affected by the elements. Always has been, and always should be. The original “professional” teams that were playing in their independent leagues were all from the north. The NFL was built in the wind and snow. I think games should evolve with the times, but this is not one of those things that need evolution. If anything, more of the Super Bowls should be played in the elements. It’s the championship for a league that is riddled with blue collar fans, yet the biggest game of the year caters to the wealthies percentile in the nation. It’s terrible how the corporations have had a hand in keeping the game in warm climates to keep the people they want to impress with tickets to the game comfortable. Everyone needs to grown some balls, strap up their pads and play the damn game the way it should be played!

  33. jerseykingpin says: May 25, 2010 9:47 AM

    BroncosfanBR says:
    May 25, 2010 9:11 AM
    If there is a 2014…according to every conspiracy nut on the planet we all die in 2012.
    An outdoor Super Bowl wouldn’t be a horrible idea…if it was in Tampa or somewhere in California where the odds of it being a cold crappy day are slim to non-existent.
    I’m from New York and best believe I wouldn’t be willing to pay 2 grand for the right to freeze my ass off. It’s cold as hell in February and I guarantee there’s no way that changes in the next 3 years.
    —————————————-
    If you think mid 30s 40s are cold as hell you need to move and 2nd I didn’t know hell was cold . I guess we all been lied to always was told it was hot . And if you ever watch the news it gets cold in FL to

  34. east96street. says: May 25, 2010 9:48 AM

    realitypolice says: “Then they get to the Meadowlands, and there is 12 inches of snow on the ground. Green Bay, clearly the lesser team, gets handed a huge advantage it didn’t earn and doesn’t deserve.”
    Let’s discuss all the ignorance in this post. First, it rarely snows that much in NYC. Look it up. Three big storms this year? None in 97-98. Second, the snow would removed from the field before play begins. Third, any team that can’t win in the snow, can’t win in the playoffs and doesn’t deserve to be Champs. Overall record does NOT indicate quality. If it did, there would no need to play the game. New England came into the Super Bowl undefeated and lost to NY – “clearly the lesser team”. Yet, neither team had a weather advantage over the other. Thus, your theory of the supposedly “superior” team always winning when the weather does NOT factor into the game is proven wrong.

  35. Sixburgh Brandon says: May 25, 2010 9:52 AM

    Here is a hypothetical situation: Atlanta goes 10-6, barely makes the playoffs, then has a miracle run to the SB. Pittsburgh, a team that for whatever reason actually plays football outside, goes 15-1 and blows everybody away. Then they get to the Superdome, and there is a quarter inch of carpet on the floor. Atlanta, clearly the lesser team, gets handed a huge advantage it didn’t earn and doesn’t deserve. That’s not fair and the league should avoid the possibility by not having every single Superbowl game played in a vacuum.

  36. DasBoot504 says: May 25, 2010 9:52 AM

    Actually agree w/ Florio….You play the weather you’re dealt b/c you have no control over it….but in this case you do have control of the Venue, why would anyone want to see basically a repeat of the 2002 SuperBowl played in -20 degree weather. The league has molded itself into a pass first model, and rosters are starting to reflect that…..so why since this is the will of the commish and the competition commitee, would they throw a curve ball and take the risk by doing something like this…..Or worse, if there are blizzard like conditions, they might have to postpone the game. Or say the night of the game is fine but the week prior to the game, conditions are so crappy the teams can’t practice outside, are their indoor facilities available for the teams to practice? The owners are too busy stroking each other for raping their respective fans/city/states into funding their sports palaces and have no regard for the actual game or the fans. When you’re placing two teams on a field for a world championship, the field should be as neutral as possible. It should be about the team that plays the best football, not the team that plays the best football in cold weather/snow/rain etc.

  37. Ryan_Mack says: May 25, 2010 9:54 AM

    East69street.
    Sorry I guess I shoulda said Modern Era Superbowls for all you armchair critics.
    You know what I mean geek.

  38. Popeye says: May 25, 2010 9:59 AM

    all the media are pussies….players would love a snowy superbowl, but the Dbags in the media need to be protected…take the bowl to NY…..

  39. argos says: May 25, 2010 10:12 AM

    If the Superbowl were about the game, I’d say yes. It’s not, so I’ll say keep it in a warm venue.
    On the other-hand. Let it happen so they can learn not to do it again.

  40. Hippiemusic says: May 25, 2010 10:13 AM

    Again if they had any speculation of getting a Super Bowl in the new stadium, why put a roof on it. Not like they don’t have the money.

  41. NFL4EVER says: May 25, 2010 10:15 AM

    Lets schedule Super Bowl L (50 for those of you who can’t read Roman Numerals) at Lambeau Field while we are at it, nice stadium, lots of tradition, who cares about the weather, right?
    Screw NY-NJ! Giants Stadium was “state of the art” for many years and nobody seriously talked of playing a Super Bowl there, why now?

  42. realitypolice says: May 25, 2010 10:16 AM

    Sixburgh Brandon says:
    May 25, 2010 9:52 AM
    Here is a hypothetical situation: Atlanta goes 10-6, barely makes the playoffs, then has a miracle run to the SB. Pittsburgh, a team that for whatever reason actually plays football outside, goes 15-1 and blows everybody away. Then they get to the Superdome, and there is a quarter inch of carpet on the floor. Atlanta, clearly the lesser team, gets handed a huge advantage it didn’t earn and doesn’t deserve. That’s not fair and the league should avoid the possibility by not having every single Superbowl game played in a vacuum.
    ===========================
    Why would Atlanta have an advantage? Are you saying that Pittsburgh, which most likely played no more than 2-3 of it’s games in bad weather, would somehow become unable to deal with perfect conditions it has most likely played 12 or 13 games in that year?
    I appreciate the fact that you liked my post so much that you copied it word for word, but while you can obviously read, analytical thought clearly escapes you. The example doesn’t work in reverse, because both teams would have a great deal of experience playing in perfect conditions- thus benefitting no team. On the other hand, in horrible conditions, Pittsburgh would have an advantage because they would have played 2-3 or maybe more games in those elements, whereas Atlanta most likely would have played none.
    Understand now?

  43. Jonky says: May 25, 2010 10:18 AM

    Florio, like all Cheatriot fans, are opposed to the game in NY because of their long standing inferiority complex to NY. Boston is a baseball, not a football, town and can’t stand the Yankees own the Sux. Florio would be singing the NFL praises if Foxborogh was the sight instead of the Meadowlands. Haven’t read many Cheatriot fans that weren’t jealous arrogant Arses.

  44. sdigre says: May 25, 2010 10:19 AM

    All Super Bowls should be played outdoors in cold climates. Or just Green Bay each and every year.

  45. yem123 says: May 25, 2010 10:21 AM

    I live right next to Giants stadium. I may rent out a room in my house in 2014 but no way in hell I am going to pay to freeze my ass off at that game! By the way I am not even close to being considered “rich.” Poor people can feel the cold too.
    I understand they want to honor Wellington Mara for his contributions to the game, but seriously, this SB has the POTENTIAL to be a disaster. More potential than any other to be an absolute disaster.

  46. east96street. says: May 25, 2010 10:21 AM

    Ryan_Mack says: “Sorry I guess I shoulda said Modern Era Superbowls for all you armchair critics.”
    Oh, you mean when three of Pittsburgh’s wins came from using so many steroids that members of those fabled teams are dropping dead from the resultant health issues? That era? Still, I will give you this, fix the turf and a Super Bowl should be played there if you guys have enough hotel rooms for all the visitors. Went to a game at the old stadium. Great atmosphere.

  47. SeriousRadio says: May 25, 2010 10:21 AM

    Look, a NJ Superbowl will be the crown jewel for the Park Ave. HQ of the NFL. The owners will be doing this one for Goodell. They owe him. NY is the media center of the world. This will be a ratings home run.

  48. HitMachine says: May 25, 2010 10:28 AM

    Yeah, bad weather would ruin the Super Bowl. It’s been proven that people hate watching football games played in bad weather. They never become legendary.
    Also, I have live and have lived 30-45 minutes away from the Meadowlands my whole life and I don’t think I have ever seen a -20 degree day.

  49. realitypolice says: May 25, 2010 10:31 AM

    east96street. says:
    May 25, 2010 9:48 AM
    realitypolice says: “Then they get to the Meadowlands, and there is 12 inches of snow on the ground. Green Bay, clearly the lesser team, gets handed a huge advantage it didn’t earn and doesn’t deserve.”
    Let’s discuss all the ignorance in this post. First, it rarely snows that much in NYC. Look it up. Three big storms this year? None in 97-98. Second, the snow would removed from the field before play begins.
    ===========================
    Hilarious. You were so determined to prove me wrong that you researched NY winters and found ONE YEAR with no snow storms? LOL. You’re right, that totally disproves my theory.
    On February 10th of this year, only days after the Super Bowl, the NY/NJ area was hit with a blizzard that temporarily closed some of the highways that would be used to get to the stadium from Manhattan (where most people going to the game would be staying), paralyzed public transportation, and shut down much of the city. If this happens on Super Bowl Sunday 2014, you can forget “removing the snow from the field” before the game, there won’t be anyone there to do it. It would be an absolute disaster for the NFL.
    Why take the chance?

  50. realitypolice says: May 25, 2010 10:33 AM

    BaltimoreSports says:
    May 25, 2010 9:39 AM
    Weather is actually a decent argument. We got a ton of snow this year in the North East. There was a foot a snow on the ground almost all winter.
    We had at least one serious storm with 2 feet of snow during regular season. It was a nightmare getting in to Baltimore for the game. That was just 70,000 fans. There was talk that the Bears might actually forfeit the game because they couldn’t get to Baltimore. I’m setting my self up for a Baltimore joke, but the city actually released some nonviolent criminals early to help shovel the game.
    The game still did happen though. So a Super Bowl in bad weather would be possible, you still have to take in to account the slim possibility of a winter storm and the impact it would have.
    ============================
    The game happened because Baltimore’s stadium is right downtown, very close to where the teams and game officials stay. The Meadowlands is a half hour in traffic from Manhattan on a good day, and nearly impossible to get to on a bad one.
    Otherwise, I agree with you.

  51. Free Ryan Leaf says: May 25, 2010 10:41 AM

    Mike, exactly how many games, playoffs included, have been postponed because of snow? Have any been moved even because of ice?
    You are fearful of a scenario that happens every season and can be dealt with. Get a grip on yourself. Because heaven forbid the halftime show has to be canceled.

  52. GreenAsGrass says: May 25, 2010 10:42 AM

    No Pier588, you are wrong AGAIN. Jet fans will be in attendance at 2014 super bowl to watch our team play the Cowboys.
    All at the new Jets Stadium, YESSSSS!!!
    PS – news flash, Giants stadium is a pile of rubble in the parking lot, gone forever.
    Thank you

  53. GreenAsGrass says: May 25, 2010 10:43 AM

    PS – Pier588, I would pay double my ticket price to ensure that no Giant fans are allowed into our stadium ever again.

  54. cantgetenough says: May 25, 2010 10:43 AM

    Ryan_Mack says:
    “Sorry I guess I shoulda said Modern Era Superbowls for all you armchair critics.
    You know what I mean geek.”
    Ryan-Mack, the armchair (modern era) NFL expert.

  55. realitypolice says: May 25, 2010 10:44 AM

    HitMachine says:
    May 25, 2010 10:28 AM
    Yeah, bad weather would ruin the Super Bowl. It’s been proven that people hate watching football games played in bad weather. They never become legendary.
    Also, I have live and have lived 30-45 minutes away from the Meadowlands my whole life and I don’t think I have ever seen a -20 degree day.
    ====================
    But as an area resident you should know that there were several days this year where it would have been next to impossible to get from mid-town manhattan to the meadowlands. When it comes to the Super Bowl, there are considerations other than the game itself that come into play.

  56. sasquash69 says: May 25, 2010 10:59 AM

    I think that its football and no matter what the temp is it will be great. As a Eagles fan the best game I ever went to was the NFC championship game against the Falcons and there dog murdering QB. It was freezing and windy(I had wind burn on my face after the game), but it was the best game ever for me. The snow would be a added bonus. We don’t shut down for a little snow in the north east. So grow a set and have fun. Also I feel every team should be able to host if scummy north Jersey can host one.

  57. Ryan_Mack says: May 25, 2010 11:00 AM

    east96street. says:
    May 25, 2010 10:21 AM
    Ryan_Mack says: “Sorry I guess I shoulda said Modern Era Superbowls for all you armchair critics.”
    Oh, you mean when three of Pittsburgh’s wins came from using so many steroids that members of those fabled teams are dropping dead from the resultant health issues? That era? Still, I will give you this, fix the turf and a Super Bowl should be played there if you guys have enough hotel rooms for all the visitors. Went to a game at the old stadium. Great atmosphere.
    Yeah ok so you think the Steelers were the only team to use steroids in the 70′s? You think current NFL players don’t use some form of performance enhancing products now? Tell me your not completely stupid. I guess every Superbowl from the creation of steroids until now should be considered void do you?
    All teams have players that use. They always have since they’ve been around. No championship is bruised because of it.
    Except for those damn Patriots who cheated to beat the Rams and the Eagles.
    Those two need an *

  58. Pier588 says: May 25, 2010 11:02 AM

    east96street. – “Let’s discuss all the ignorance every time you post.”
    First – DUMBA$$ (since you so love the name calling thing) – everyone is entitled to their opinion – no one declared your opinion (A$$hole) to be all knowing for all people – get over yourself already.
    Second – hosting a SB in NJ is an all around bad idea – specifically because of the possibility of bad weather. Like the soup bowl in New Orleans – a NJ Stupid Bowl would be a disaster waiting to happen; if it didn’t it would be all luck.
    Third – No amount of your trumped up, one sided justifications you can come up with will ever convince me to vacate my position on this issue regardless of what name you decide to call me next – for simply expressing my opinion; something this site encourages – “you DUMBA$$”.
    reality police says it best – “Why take the chance?” NJ/NY had a chance to put a roof on any of the 3 new stadiums and they didn’t do it – hence, they don’t deserve the Super Bowl.

  59. east96street. says: May 25, 2010 11:06 AM

    realitypolice says: “Hilarious. You were so determined to prove me wrong that you researched NY winters and found ONE YEAR with no snow storms?”
    No, moron, I have lived in NYC for 46 years. It just doesn’t snow that much. If you lived here, you would know that. Google NYC climate. Do SOME research. Understand FACTS. A blizzard a couple of days AFTER the Super Bowl? 1) it was after 2) how many blizzards does the Meadowlands get every year? You’re simply talking out your ass. Remember 9/11? I do, I lived through it with my family and my brother barely escaped alive. Within days of an UNPRECEDENTED and UNEXPECTED event, traffic control kicked in and travel was actually better than the days BEFORE it happened. Unlike 9/11, they will know this is coming well before the actual event occurs. Roads will closed into Manhattan so fans can use both the inbound and outbound lanes to get to the Meadowlands. Every snow plow and salt truck within 20 miles will be on standby in the EXTREMELY unlikely event of significant snowfall. Do you realize the average temperature in February is well above freezing? Do you realize there’s a much greater chance of significant snow in January? Do you know anything AT ALL about the subject? Or are you just an opinionated asshole that runs off his mouth while having no idea what he’s talking about? My money is on the latter.

  60. JimmyY says: May 25, 2010 11:13 AM

    Fair is fair, you open it up to Jersey then every other cold weather non-domed stadium deserves to have it, to. Any one remember that bitchin’ cold playoff game in Green Bay, the one the Giants won and went to the Super Bowl? Freezin’, like -2 and it was a helluva game. So don’t say cold and even moderately bad weather can’t produce great games.

  61. 8man says: May 25, 2010 11:27 AM

    Amazing! It doesn’t matter what the post topic is there is always a douchebag so angry about how bad his team sucks, he has to claim the Patriots won all three of their Super Bowls through videotape.
    I guess it makes them sleep better at night. “My team sucks ass, and will never achieve what the Patriots have, but if I jump on this videotaping thing long enough, I may actually in my own mind believe, that nothing they accomplished would have been possible without it, and therefore my team looks less shitty.”
    And for the numbnut who claims all Patriot fans are against this, read my previous post. Let NY have it. Do you think I want the pretentious, Hollywood, glitteratti, political types the big game draws anywhere near Gillette en masse? Can you imagine the slime and stench they’d leave behind?
    I need a drink!

  62. Kris says: May 25, 2010 11:31 AM

    Oh no, it’s so cold. My little bitty hands are freezing.
    What a load of crap. Growing up in the north part of the US, we deal with bad weather all the time. It’s not the end of the world. Put on some gloves, thick socks, and a warm coat and suck it up.
    If the corporate fat cats are too good to spend the day out in the cold, there are plenty of real fans that would love to go.

  63. dboom92 says: May 25, 2010 11:40 AM

    The decision has just officially been made…. your sources out to lunch, Florio?

  64. east96street. says: May 25, 2010 11:44 AM

    Pier588 – You almost got it. I presented facts, not “justifications”. You presented opinions. My facts are backed by decades of science and are based on the hard numbers that weather conditions in NYC have been tracked on a daily basis since the Civil War. You just talked out your ass. So, on my side, 150 years of daily weather statistics. On you side, your ignorant opinion. Easy choice to make. BTW – I’m guessing by the “quality” of your thoughts and your inability to rationalize, you’ll never make enough money to actually attend a Super Bowl, so why do you care? I’m not aware of any law requiring you to attend or even watch.

  65. Patsfansince73 says: May 25, 2010 11:50 AM

    wvugrad00 – You beat me to it.
    That is the best thing to do, but I would take it one step further – exclude domes. This is an outdoor sport meant to be played OUTDOORS. Weather is part of the game and makes it that much more interesting. Those of you out there embracing this idea – kudo’s to you. You understand what this sport is all about. And like it has been stated the REAL FANS will show up if the mucky mucks are too scared of getting cold or wet from the elements. This is a sport for those who are tough (ladies you notice how I didn’t say it is a “mans sport”, because I love seeing you out there as well cheering your team on). And the ones thinking that if there is a big storm that the game won’t be played because you won’t be able to get to it – WAKE UP! If it is in a state use to snow, they know how to deal with it. And do you think the politicians would allow for huge tax revenue to slip through their fingers? They would have the DPW out in full force to ensure that anyone and everyone would be able to get there.
    Those of you opposing it, stop claiming to be fans of the game and go back to watching a wuss “sport” like golf.
    And a definition is needed:
    Jonky = Jack Ass without a brain…..

  66. Jeremy F says: May 25, 2010 11:55 AM

    stick to tennis Florio, your a child in a mans clothes…. grow some balls and deal with the cold weather like a real man… sissy

  67. snnyjcbs says: May 25, 2010 11:59 AM

    They played one in Detroit once to did they not? Who wantsa to go to New York for a Super Bowl, who wants to go to New York for anything. With eacj passing year I am putting less of my money into football and so are many of my type. The new fans are fickle and that is why after a lose or two these teams are having black outs. Keep destroying the game, maybe next year you can play the game in Green Bay, sound s like a winner.

  68. drbigblue says: May 25, 2010 11:59 AM

    20 below zero? really? It hasn’t been that cold since 1934. NJ isn’t exactly the arctic…

  69. jerseykingpin says: May 25, 2010 12:09 PM

    realitypolice says:
    May 25, 2010 10:44 AM
    HitMachine says:
    May 25, 2010 10:28 AM
    Yeah, bad weather would ruin the Super Bowl. It’s been proven that people hate watching football games played in bad weather. They never become legendary.
    Also, I have live and have lived 30-45 minutes away from the Meadowlands my whole life and I don’t think I have ever seen a -20 degree day.
    ====================
    But as an area resident you should know that there were several days this year where it would have been next to impossible to get from mid-town manhattan to the meadowlands. When it comes to the Super Bowl, there are considerations other than the game itself that come into play.
    ————————
    I live 10mins away from the Meadowlands and they clear the roads quick and no it be impossible to get from midtown manhattan to the meadowlands. If you ever lived here you would know and our snow fall is 2″ or less if you can’t drive in that omg and most ppl will be taking the trains and buses

  70. jerseykingpin says: May 25, 2010 12:14 PM

    BaltimoreSports says:
    May 25, 2010 9:39 AM
    Weather is actually a decent argument. We got a ton of snow this year in the North East. There was a foot a snow on the ground almost all winter.
    We had at least one serious storm with 2 feet of snow during regular season. It was a nightmare getting in to Baltimore for the game. That was just 70,000 fans. There was talk that the Bears might actually forfeit the game because they couldn’t get to Baltimore. I’m setting my self up for a Baltimore joke, but the city actually released some nonviolent criminals early to help shovel the game.
    The game still did happen though. So a Super Bowl in bad weather would be possible, you still have to take in to account the slim possibility of a winter storm and the impact it would have.
    ——————
    Your talking about down there up here in North Jersey one storm we got 4″ to your 2 ft and another we recived 0″ to your 2 foot so whats your point

  71. rea725 says: May 25, 2010 12:15 PM

    Put it in Cleveland.
    Seriously, so what if it’s cold & snowing. It’s FOOTBALL!
    We all know that the AFC Championship will be in Cleveland by 2014 anyway. If snow’s fine then, it’s fine for the Superbowl as well ;)

  72. sasquash69 says: May 25, 2010 12:16 PM

    I agree, lets exclude all domes and warm weather cities.

  73. nittanylion0 says: May 25, 2010 12:22 PM

    everyone needs to unwind their panties and calm down… the NY/NJ/PA area hasn’t seen snow like they saw in the last year in my entire life (i’m 27). the risk is not as great as you think. now, if the SB is going to be played in Gillette Stadium… that would be a legitimate concern.

  74. Pier588 says: May 25, 2010 1:00 PM

    easy69street – “You almost get it.”
    Your DUMBA$$ opinion isn’t everyone else’s.
    Fact is – I was in NJ for the blizzard Feb 11, 2006 – the whole place, including NYC – was paralyzed for 2 days and that was only a Cat 3 blizzard. Having snow removal equipment and being used to dealing with winter conditions didn’t matter one bit. Nothing happened, everything was canceled including church and nobody went anywhere for 2 days – until it stopped snowing.
    So “You just enjoy talking out your ass” while trying to force “your ignorant opinion” on others. I not buying it no matter how you slice it.
    “BTW – I’m guessing by the “low quality” of your posts and your inability to rationalize, that you are a JETS fan and leader of the pack in sexually harassing women during half time at old Giants Stadium.”
    Did you look thru your crystal ball at my bank account? If you did – your other ignorant comment about how much money I happen to make – would add another brick to the pile that is “your ignorance”.
    So why do I care?
    Like you, I have an opinion on where NOT to hold the Super Bowl – that’s NJ. If you wanted the big game, your area had 3 chances to build a roof on any of those 3 new stadiums and this wouldn’t be an issue.
    If the NFL stupidly gives NJ the Super Bowl later today – all previous rules for hosting the game are out the window.
    Get ready for State College, PA and every other large college stadium to be in contention for the big game. Not because they have a local NFL team, that rule will be out with the cold weather in Feb rule. Because of their superior seating capacity. Colleges are more capable and used to hosting bigger games with way larger crowds on Saturday’s than the NFL (outside of new Redskins Stadium) does on Sunday’s.
    The Big House at Michigan will have double the seating capacity of New Giants stadium – they deserve the game way more than NJ simply based on seating capacity if the NFL is dumb enough to play the big game outside in Feb.

  75. Pier588 says: May 25, 2010 1:13 PM

    nittanylion0 – Gillette Stadium???
    Why wouldn’t you want it in State College? Giving it to NJ will change the traditional “rules” for hosting the SB and your stadium outsizes NE and New Giants Stadium paving the way for the Super Bowl to be played at several much larger college stadiums.
    Washington has the largest seating capacity in the NFL – if the league insists on playing a SB game outside in Feb – why are they looking at NJ in the first place? DC is further south than NJ, they “may” not have a blizzard the day of the game either, they have a new stadium and 20,000 more seats than New Giants Stadium…
    How the hell is NJ even in contention for this game when there are way better choices starting with Miami and Tampa?

  76. Human Howitzer says: May 25, 2010 1:26 PM

    The most fun I’ve ever had at a game was the Packers-Seahawks “we’ll take the ball and we’re gonna score” playoff game a few years ago, despite the fact that I’m not really a fan of either team. It was freezing, but everybody was ready for it. The fan camaraderie and the excitement of the game made it unlike any other that I’ve attended. I didn’t see one person who wasn’t having a great time. Cold weather at the Super Bowl? Trust me, nobody in the stadium will care. And don’t even bring up the possibility that it will affect some teams’ ability to run their passing offense, or whatever; they need to adapt or lose, just like any other time.

  77. jasonadel says: May 25, 2010 1:27 PM

    does it really matter where the game is? Most of us would never be able to afford to go anyway. Also, football SHOULD be played in the cold elements. It is for Men. Baseball goes into October and November and sometimes it is really cold.

  78. 8man says: May 25, 2010 1:57 PM

    Pier588 says:
    How the hell is NJ even in contention for this game when there are way better choices starting with Miami and Tampa?
    ————————————
    Because Florida has hosted this game 15 times already. How the hell are Miami and Tampa in contention for something they’ve already had more than anyone else? And that really is the point. It’s time for a new venue and time to look at other states and stadiums. New Jersey and that new stadium is as good as any.
    If this goes well, stadiums all up and down the east coast will have a chance once every five to ten years.
    It’ll be a little cold. So what? It’s gonna happen. No sense arguing. Accept it. You all will watch anyway. Especially if it’s snowing. And don’t say you won’t.
    I just hope we are all still alive to see it happen.

  79. edgy1957 says: May 25, 2010 2:26 PM

    I would also like to make an observation about the contention that they will have all those snow plows and other equipment ready, in case something happens. The blizzard wasn’t a complete surprise and there was more than enough warning and more than enough equipment and yet, the area shut down. You simply can’t win the war against Mother Nature when it hits you with such fury. Buffalo has had several very bad storms over the years and they’ve done everything that they can to stay ahead and yet, it’s shut the city down for a while and it will do it again, the next time it happens.
    We don’t get a lot of snow in OK but every 5 years or so, we get an ice storm that will shut this state down and we’ll have plenty of warning and equipment but it still takes time to get that equipment out and about and for the workers to do their jobs.
    Also, one of the worst things about our ice storms is that it will usually take out the trees, which take out the power lines, which end up taking a long time for power to be restored in affected areas. A couple of years ago, I had to rent out a motel room for a week because that’s how long it took for anyone to come to out and fix the problem. It required people to remove the trees, turn off the power to the line feeding the box, reattaching lines to the box from the house, putting the box back on and reattaching it to the external power lines and getting someone to turn the power back on to the line feeding the box.
    The storm not only affected power to houses but all over the city. Street lights were out and most businesses around the affected areas also saw their power out for a week.
    I know that this is the worst case scenario but that’s what you need to plan for and there’s NOTHING that you can do when you get an event like this.

  80. monropoobah says: May 25, 2010 9:04 PM

    if the pussies with the tickets don’t want to go, they could call me…..

  81. DDJesus says: May 27, 2010 3:56 AM

    Apparently it’s okay if Florida gets wrecked with a huge storm during the SB but god forbid if NYC gets an inch of snow on Superbowl Sunday…

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