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Gibbs thinks Philly was foolish to trade McNabb to Washington

Former Washington Redskins head coach Joe Gibbs has retired from football and moved on to auto racing, but he still keeps up with the team he coached from 1981 to 1992 and again from 2004 to 2007. And Gibbs says that the Redskins are going to make the Philadelphia Eagles regret trading quarterback Donovan McNabb.

“I didn’t quite understand that one,” Gibbs said when asked about the trade in an interview on ESPN First Take. “Because what you’re doing is you’re taking someone in the division and giving them a quarterback.”

Gibbs said that he has first-hand knowledge of McNabb’s abilities from coaching against him, and that the Eagles just gave the Redskins exactly the kind of quarterback they need.

“My problem with Donovan was when we played against them, he hurt us,” Gibbs said. “He’s a big man, he scrambles out of the pocket, he’s hard to get down, and when he gets out of the pocket, he makes big plays down the field.”

Added Gibbs of McNabb in a Redskins uniform, “I think Philly’s going to be holding their breath on this one.”

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  1. wvugrad00 says: May 26, 2010 11:20 AM

    Gibbs was foolish to show up on First Take, especially if that ass Skip Bayless was on today. That man is the worst thing on ESPN

  2. SoCalSean says: May 26, 2010 11:21 AM

    Quit watching t.v. then writing a story about it.. That’s just lazy journalism..

  3. A_MAC says: May 26, 2010 11:22 AM

    but they had a quaterback in jason campbell right?

  4. ravensos says: May 26, 2010 11:23 AM

    Gibbs has a keen eye for this sort of thing, I believe he saw similar attributes in over-the-hill Mark Brunell.

  5. Dolphinatic says: May 26, 2010 11:23 AM

    yea especially if Kolb folds up like one of his new kitchen sink models. Then they are stuck with Vick…. then again maybe that would be best for them. Vick with a yr of football rehab will be dangerous. Either way major mistake to trade him in division. My older bro is a Foreskins fan and he is giddy, so I guess that tells me all I need to know..

  6. snowbum says: May 26, 2010 11:24 AM

    And Special Agent Gibbs is always right.

  7. myeaglescantwin says: May 26, 2010 11:26 AM

    cause he has such a grasp on the league now-adays.. as proven by his latest success in washington..
    go back to the 80’s my man
    and bring them coke bottle specs u got
    says some poor worker bee to a multimillionaire superbowl champion coach

  8. Citizen Strange says: May 26, 2010 11:29 AM

    Agreed.
    My prediction is that because of this trade the Skins make the playoffs and the Eagles don’t.

  9. myeaglescantwin says: May 26, 2010 11:31 AM

    do u really think the Eags would have traded him if they thought he could hurt them ?? Jason Campbell was more accurate than McNabb
    good thing he can scramble because there will be no pocket.. no way their rookie can handle Cole..
    i do believe donny will make those 3 young recievers better.
    Oh and maybe the supply of hGH in washington will keep Donny of the injury report

  10. Florio_sux_azz says: May 26, 2010 11:31 AM

    F! Gibbs(the return era) and Mcnabb.
    I’ll be more interested in my fantasy team then my former fav team.
    Thanx Danny for all the losing years

  11. brownsfn says: May 26, 2010 11:33 AM

    100% correct…Philly is DUMB for getting rid of this guy..

  12. Mean D says: May 26, 2010 11:35 AM

    He’s wrong. McNabb is finished.

  13. heyyon says: May 26, 2010 11:43 AM

    The key operative phrase used in his statement is “When we played against them.” It implies two things.
    First, McNabb was part of a team of players which beat the Redskins. Had he said “him” it would have pointed to McNabb beating the Redskins or being a difference maker. The fact he said “them” puts McNabb as just a cog in the wheel.
    Second, it sets a time frame. Gibbs coached only through 2007. It’s been a couple of seasons since Gibbs’ comments would even matter. But, he said them now… about then. McNabb’s Eagles (but not McNabb himself) beat the Redskins then.
    What is notable is what Gibbs did *not* say: McNabb is a topflight QB in the NFL right now.

  14. WarPath says: May 26, 2010 11:44 AM

    Going to love watching Philly’s ‘young guns’ crash and burn. Can’t help but remember that Kolb was the third best QB in his draft class…behind Jamarcus Russell and Brady Quinn.
    Jackson is going to miss the ‘old man’ when Kolb hangs one over the middle and leaves his kidneys open for safeties.
    The Eagles collapse will be almost as rewarding as the ‘Skins rebirth.
    Hail.

  15. lurch's nyquil says: May 26, 2010 11:46 AM

    Erdessy says Gibbs is a loser, uh newsflash donkey….. HE WON 3 SUPERBOWLS! How many has Philthy even appeared in?
    What a douche!

  16. AlphaQ2 says: May 26, 2010 11:47 AM

    Not saying that the Eagles made a bad move. They were going to be forced to let one of the QB’s go for nothing next year (Both Kolb and Mcnabbs contacts were up after this year). However, to trade him in the division was absolutely retarted. Did you guys see how pissed Tom Coughlin was when he found out about this trade? He knows what this will do for the skins. The Eagles should have taken the next best offer and shipped him out of the division. They will pay for this for the next 4 or 5 years and all of the NFC East knows it outside of stupid eagles fans.

  17. dubthedonk says: May 26, 2010 11:47 AM

    Hey ERDESSY
    How many rings does that fat slob of a man Reid have compared to Gibbs?????
    Exactly, go eat another steak & cheese you loser…

  18. G-Lew says: May 26, 2010 11:48 AM

    Dolphinatic says:
    May 26, 2010 11:23 AM
    “yea especially if Kolb folds up like one of his new kitchen sink models. Then they are stuck with Vick…. then again maybe that would be best for them. Vick with a yr of football rehab will be dangerous. Either way major mistake to trade him in division. My older bro is a Foreskins fan and he is giddy, so I guess that tells me all I need to know..”
    Yes it does, your brother is an idiot.

  19. mama tried says: May 26, 2010 11:49 AM

    Gibbs dont know jack about current football, indicative by his last stint with the dannyskins!!
    Go back to racing old man!!

  20. 987654321 says: May 26, 2010 11:49 AM

    I’m just happy for McNabb. He actually got out of the Hell hole called Philadelphia. Worst fans in sports.

  21. myeaglescantwin says: May 26, 2010 11:49 AM

    .
    skip bayless is the homosexual representitive for espn.. i wonder if that is an actual title???
    do u think he knows????
    who the hell is named skip that doesnt dig little boys…..cant happen

  22. 987654321 says: May 26, 2010 11:50 AM

    The Saints have more Super Bowl titles than the Eagles. What does that say about the Eagles? Ha!

  23. afiresnake says: May 26, 2010 11:50 AM

    McNabb is stupid.
    It’s the same situation as with Bledsoe to the Bills. Everybody said you couldn’t trade a Pro Bowl Qb to a division rival, and the Pats owned the Bills ever since because Bledsoe – though I always liked him – is two dimensional.
    Same with McNabb.
    Reid isn’t dumb.

  24. KnuckleBucket says: May 26, 2010 11:50 AM

    McNabb is certainly going to make philly pay. Should be fun to watch…

  25. XBOD says: May 26, 2010 11:50 AM

    Gibb’s is a loser ? 4 Superbowls in 11 years(first time) and 2 palyoffs in 4 years(second time) who else has done that ? dumb ass

  26. BlondBlueDevils says: May 26, 2010 11:51 AM

    Even Gibbs knows that Kolb is just another failed “Great Hope”………….
    HA HA HA
    Vick will be starting by week 3. That’s why McNabb was traded.
    Turning the keys over to Kolb was just to keep the “Great Hope” ticket buyers happy, but Andy will not play that bust…………..
    HA HA HA
    Get ready for the Philly chants…………
    WE WANT VICK
    WE WANT VICK
    WE WANT VICK
    WE WANT VICK
    ha ha ha

  27. boysroll says: May 26, 2010 11:51 AM

    here is the problem idiots. peyton manning could QB this team and would finsih 4-12. they need an oline, no big play explosive players on offense, defense is going to suck again this yr and end result….3-13 last place…whoa…whoa…whoa..whoa…LMFAO.
    I live how Gibbs goes…they had no QB. Hey dopey…u r the idiot that gave away the farm for campbell. bunch of dopes leading this joke of an org.

  28. Drat says: May 26, 2010 11:54 AM

    It was a stupid trade. Donovan McNabb is better than people think. But people start to doubt after the relentless barrage of negativity about Donovan they’ve heard from the really stupid, bitter, aggressive, stupid, fat, stupid, illiterate, stupid, aggressive, idiotic Philadelphia fans who have denigrated him for years. Donovan will find himself so happy to get away from Philadelphia, den of dark-hearted, mean, fat, vacuous goofballs. The only thing Philadelphia is known for at all is putting really horrible, stringy overcooked cow from the slaughterhouse floor (they call it “steak”) on a sandwich of flavorless white flour and smothering it with fake trans-fat “cheese,” which is basically a by-product from some margerine factory.

  29. nothingman says: May 26, 2010 11:55 AM

    Gibbs is exactly right…if he could go back in time and get McNabb when he was big and mobile and hurt you scrambling.
    Anyone who watched him lately knows he’s not that kind of QB any more.
    That being said, this could certainly backfire for Philly. McNabb is without a doubt an upgrade for Washington.
    Really it comes down to Kolb more than McNabb. If Kolb is a good QB then it won’t matter, and if he goes directly into the toilet then it will look like the worst trade in the history of the franchise.

  30. jibfest says: May 26, 2010 11:56 AM

    he scrambles out of the pocket, he’s hard to get down, and when he gets out of the pocket, he makes big plays down the field.”
    @Joe Gibbs: As an Eagles fan, he may have done this to the Redskins when you were coaching, but he doesn’t do that anymore.

  31. wild_eagle says: May 26, 2010 11:57 AM

    Gibbs is a respectable character..but he’s wrong, mcnabb throws dirt balls to much…
    Philly now has a qb who’s talents match the WCO perfectly.
    Flyers are b.a.

  32. Brenton says: May 26, 2010 11:58 AM

    I doubt a bunch of Eagles fans have more knowledge than Joe Gibbs.
    Most of you seem to forget that Donovan McNabb is not Mark Brunell or Jason Campbell. Putting a Brunell in a Skins uniform is absolutely different than putting McNabb in a Redskins uniform.
    The thing is, even if Donovan was on the same level as Jason Campbell, the Redskins will still do much better with McNabb. And the Eagles will do much worse. Jason Campbell (who actually played well in Washington) didn’t play 10 years in Philly first.
    There is no way the Eagles get a win off Washington this year.

  33. maddenchamp610 says: May 26, 2010 11:58 AM

    Eagles Front Office>redskins front office……..
    Not even close in terms of decision making. The Eagles far and away have a better all around team and structure then the redskins do. The front office makes better all around decisions, the coaches are better, the players are better, F the redskins McNabb is gonna be an unhappy scab this year…i bet with their geriatric running backs they gonna totally abandon the run just to try to fluff his numbers and justify the trade!

  34. sukit says: May 26, 2010 11:58 AM

    Been awhile since Mcnabb has hurt anyone scrambling hasn’t it? Not saying Gibbs isn’t right about trading within a division but I don’t think Mcnabb is the same player these days.

  35. smiley says: May 26, 2010 12:00 PM

    Gibbs has 3 Super Bowl rings….from 3 different RBs and three different QBs…..Hail!

  36. jallen69 says: May 26, 2010 12:01 PM

    # A_MAC says: May 26, 2010 11:22 AM
    but they had a quaterback in jason campbell right?
    Did you read the article? He said Philly will be holding its breath

  37. wxwax says: May 26, 2010 12:01 PM

    People knocking Joe Gibbs?
    We have some real dummies posting here.
    And he’s right. McNabb is dangerous. For the sake of Eagles fans, I hope Kolb is all that. Because McNabb sure is.

  38. cofat03 says: May 26, 2010 12:05 PM

    @Erdessy
    Gibbs is a loser? Cuz the Birds have those Super Bowl Trophies rolling around Philthy right?
    I’ll take Gibbs word about football over any random on this board.

  39. SpamRok says: May 26, 2010 12:06 PM

    What happened to the eagles ever winning a superbowl. And we all know the blackhawks will destroy the flyers.
    Last time I checked-
    Gibbs:3 superbowls
    Sheagles:0

  40. ZombieRevolution says: May 26, 2010 12:07 PM

    Favre was supposed to be washed up and many thought he would only hand the ball off all season. He was an important part of that team.
    Yes- that last pick hurt them, but take away all those fumbles and the Saints may have not gone to the SB.

  41. sdffa11 says: May 26, 2010 12:15 PM

    why is everyone still questioning this trade?
    look at Andy reids history of getting rid of aging players past their prime and he’s been correct for the most part. the only exceptions have been dawkins and burgess

  42. spennyhatch says: May 26, 2010 12:15 PM

    Hey Erdessy….
    By “loser” did you mean Multiple 3 time super bowl winning coach with NO franchise/HOF qb or rb ever… Or did you mean 4 time NFC conferance title game loser and 1 time Super Bowl Loser ala Andy Reid???? Just want to clarify.

  43. SpamRok says: May 26, 2010 12:16 PM

    And what has Kolb done? Three games. And all the stupid eagle fans think he’s the next Marino. He’s probably the next cutler at best

  44. BirdsFan4Life says: May 26, 2010 12:25 PM

    Who really cares what Gibbs says…. This subject is old and over with….
    MDS: Be sure to post what Gibbs has to say on Sunday, October 3rd around 7pm….after the Birds beat the Skins with their D. As long as Kolb doesn’t make a lot of “rookie” mistakes, the Eagles will be fine in 2010.

  45. BlondBlueDevils says: May 26, 2010 12:30 PM

    130 Million – the measuring stick for a quarterback’s worth………………
    HA HA HA

  46. goboys82 says: May 26, 2010 12:31 PM

    Skins will still suck but it won’t be because of McNabb… he still has noone to throw the ball too, and no o-line.

  47. Dapollock says: May 26, 2010 12:40 PM

    It’s the same situation as with Bledsoe to the Bills. Everybody said you couldn’t trade a Pro Bowl Qb to a division rival, and the Pats owned the Bills ever since because Bledsoe – though I always liked him – is two dimensional.
    +++
    His spleen is only one dimension after Mo Lewis’ hit. Flat.

  48. Reginald says: May 26, 2010 12:41 PM

    No Eagles fan thinks Kolb is the next Marino. Stop making things up retards.
    And why is it NOT OK for Eagles fan to think highly of their QB when he’s only started 2 games… but it’s OK to judge him poorly and compare him to bad QB’s when he’s still… only started 2 games? You guys are really really stupid.
    Kolb is an unproven QB being given a chance. You know.. like all QB’s have to do at some point in their career? Duh?
    McNabb is a proven QB that might win you games in the regular season, but will never win the big games. This is why the Eagles are done with him.
    These are facts. Now stop being dumb.

  49. Count Sacula says: May 26, 2010 12:45 PM

    Drat says:
    May 26, 2010 11:54 AM
    It was a stupid trade. Donovan McNabb is better than people think……….The only thing Philadelphia is known for at all is putting really horrible, stringy overcooked cow from the slaughterhouse floor (they call it “steak”) on a sandwich of flavorless white flour and smothering it with fake trans-fat “cheese,” which is basically a by-product from some margerine factory.
    ___________________________________
    Really hoss? Have you seen McNabb in the past few years? You have no clue. Also, I think the birthplace of this country is a pretty cool thing to be known for – thank you. Jackass.
    Also:
    Part-time football fans – the Eagles do have 3 NFL Championships.
    McNabb will not be missed as he is overrated. He is no longer a threat in the running game and was never a threat with his arm – unless you consider that he was a threat to the worms in the dirt on the field.
    Flyers in 6.

  50. Black QB White RB says: May 26, 2010 12:45 PM

    I cannot tolerate the Gibbs bashing….Vermeil was gone much longer and came back and won it all………..
    Gibbs took a BAD team to the playoffs twice in 4 seasons, with Cerrato’s personnel moves….Gibbs had it, has it, and can do it if he wants!!!!!!!!
    Show me your 3 rings then talk to me about Gibbs being lost in the past….Leadership ability doesn’t go away. He had poor players, with a few exceptions, and they played hard for him. One Playoff win, one more than lots of other teams had in those years….Dallas…..

  51. We need linemen says: May 26, 2010 12:45 PM

    Gibbs gets a lot of stick for his second stint, but in four years he took a dire roster to the play-offs twice.
    Gibbs never was a great personnel guy, but he did well considering the total turd of roster Vinny Cerrato served up for him. Sure he lost a lot of games in his second stint, but a lot of those losses were by small margins and in the two losing seasons there were a lot of injuries on a very shallow o-line.
    Before he rejoined the ‘Skins, most commentators were talking about how dire the roster was after years of mismanagement. Gibbs did a pretty good job considering the situation.

  52. roserm8 says: May 26, 2010 12:46 PM

    Anyone who thinks the Skins are going to make the playoffs is an idiot. Who cares that they added an over the hill quarterback who quite frankly has always been a poor fit in the Eagles west coast offense.

  53. Count Sacula says: May 26, 2010 12:47 PM

    sdffa11 says:
    May 26, 2010 12:15 PM
    why is everyone still questioning this trade?
    look at Andy reids history of getting rid of aging players past their prime and he’s been correct for the most part. the only exceptions have been dawkins and burgess
    ___________________________________
    Burgess has had minimal success at best. I’d say Reid has been dead on except for Dawkins.

  54. Frostbite says: May 26, 2010 12:51 PM

    boysroll what makes you so much of a expert on how to run a football team the only thing you know about football is watching the talking heads on television and whacking off under the bleachers.

  55. Duck Fallas says: May 26, 2010 12:57 PM

    And Gibbs was foolish to try to come back in 2004. Stick with racing.

  56. Vaxman says: May 26, 2010 1:03 PM

    I love how all these deadskin ass clowns and eagle haters think MacFlabb is the greatest QB. He was good not great… Doesn’t run anymore, and when u need a 7 yd completion for a 1st, he’ll sail it over his head… Did the birds do everything right in the begining with him? No. Did they surround him with offensive talent in the begining? No. But here’s this u retards, they gave him a good line, a playmaking RB and a top 10 D year after year. And he blew it… National Media says, “but he got u to 5 NFC champ games”. Yeah… Great awesome… And he’s 1-4 in those games, favored to win in 3 of them. So break it down Forrest… HE IS AN UNDERACHEIVER!!! HE LOST WHEN HE WAS SUPPOSED TO WIN!! OVER AND OVER AGAIN!! WE ARENT SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPY ABOUT THAT IN PHILLY!!! Think what u want to DC foreskins, u will love him till it dawns on u that he doesn’t run anymore, and will miss cooley 7 yds out with a worm burner when u need a 1st down…

  57. jan van flac says: May 26, 2010 1:09 PM

    The Skins have a scary talented roster…if you could go back in time.
    McNabb’s a good QB but so is Jason Campbell he got his azz kicked behind a crappy O line…still crappy even with T. Williams who is talented but not quite NFL ready by all accounts. It’s going to be a long year for Don.

  58. jibfest says: May 26, 2010 1:10 PM

    What has any Quarterback done before he plays in the NFL? Nothing. The same thing was said About Aaron Rogers. SpamRok, you are an idiot. So if “ALL” the Eagles fans said he is the next Marino, where did you get your poll numbers from? Did you do a poll across the Philadelphia area?
    Nobody knows how Kolb will play, but we do know what we are getting from McNabb. Great regular season numbers and coming up small in the playoffs. My question to SpamRok is this, “How come McNabb doesn’t get the same criticism that Peyton Manning used to get about failing in the playoff?”.

  59. Worst Poster Ever says: May 26, 2010 1:22 PM

    When did Joe Gibbs last coach against McNabb?
    1,000 years ago in NFL time…

  60. edgy1957 says: May 26, 2010 1:27 PM

    BleedGreen says:
    I would like to know what people have seen or think they have seen that makes them think
    ******************************
    Yeah, the Oilers thought that they could get rid of Moon and ride the Carlson train — how’d that work out for them? Oh, that’s right, they went from 12-4 under Moon to 2-14 and Carlson was 1-4 as the starter and lost his job to Bucky Richardson and Billy Joe Tolliver.
    Despite being 7 years younger, Carlson was put out to stud the next year while Moon played another 7 years.

  61. edgy1957 says: May 26, 2010 1:31 PM

    snowbum says:
    And Special Agent Gibbs is always right
    ********************************
    No – Rule #51 – sometimes, you’re wrong…

  62. WarPath says: May 26, 2010 1:33 PM

    I’m sure Kolb will be just as successful as McNabbulous. The Eagles won’t miss the experience or the savvy of a veteran presence in the huddle. Nor will they miss Westbrook. After jettisoning those two anchors they are ready to fly and fly high. Look out NFL the new look Eagles are coming to your town…hide your husbands and sons.
    or
    Question: What do you call a team that traded its 33 year old pro-bowl qb to a division rival, has an unproven QB with questionable arm strength, a second year running back that seems hesitant to say the least, and a big mouth receiver that lacks the size to ‘cash his checks’?
    Answer: Rebuilding

  63. laeagle says: May 26, 2010 1:35 PM

    1. When people say that all Philadelphia is known for is the cheesesteak, it shows the dire state of education in this country.
    2. To all of the people bashing Joe Gibbs, the man is a class act, a multiple SB winner, and a HOF coach. He may be somewhat removed from the game but I think his evaluation of a quarterback can be trusted to some degree.
    3. To the Philly fans who claim that McNabb lost games “he was supposed to win”, go to hell. He was the reason we were in those games, along with a good defense. And he was not the reason we lost the championship games (2001: Troy Vincent and Buck go down with injuries against the greatest show on turf, 2002: ask Levon Kirkland where Joe Jurevicus went, 2003: ask the refs why it’s OK to hold on Eagles receivers but not on Colts receivers, then ask why it’s OK to cheapshot a QB on the ground to break his rib, then ask Todd P what his route was, 2004: no excuses, close game, but the whole puking argument ignores the fact that he threw a TD on the next play, 2008: ask the defense why they couldn’t hold, ask the refs again about PI calls). He was part of the reason we got to those games, and he had to win “big games” to get there.
    4. The McNabb trade was a necessary evil. No one like parting with a player like McNabb, but given the QBs on the roster, it made sense, especially because all of their contracts were due to expire. It’s a shame to see him go but you can’t help but get excited about Kolb and the future. Of course, I was excited about the future with Bobby Hoying, but hopefully this will turn out different. The intra-divisional trade was a head scratcher for sure, but given the situation, they weren’t going to get much more without a huge cloud of uncertainty hanging around longer than necessary. It was fair to McNabb and Kolb to pull the trigger, and I think the organization did right by Mcnabb by not shipping him off to somewhere like Buffalo or Oakland.
    5. While I agree that McNabb doesn’t have enough talent surrounding him in Washington to do much damage, he did do quite a bit back in the day with Thrash and Pinkston. If I’m Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly right now, I’m pretty excited.
    NFC East should be fun this year! Dallas Sucks!

  64. Mr Krinkle says: May 26, 2010 1:40 PM

    McNabb is his prime was a very good quarterback that couldn’t win the big one because he was dumb and a choke. McNabb now is an average quarterback that still is dumb and a choke. Gibbs is thinking back to those Skins-Birds games 5 years ago in the regular season and he thinks that is what the Redskins are getting. They are not. McNabb is not good anymore, especially under pressure. They can have him, they will be looking to dump him in 2 years, 3 years tops. If anything, the Eagles set the Skins back about 5 years.

  65. PhillyHouse says: May 26, 2010 1:47 PM

    Vaxman:
    “And he’s 1-4 in those games, favored to win in 3 of them. So break it down Forrest… HE IS AN UNDERACHEIVER!!! HE LOST WHEN HE WAS SUPPOSED TO WIN!! OVER AND OVER AGAIN!! WE ARENT SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPY ABOUT THAT IN PHILLY!!! Think what u want to DC foreskins, u will love him till it dawns on u that he doesn’t run anymore, and will miss cooley 7 yds out with a worm burner when u need a 1st down…”
    ————————————————–
    You must be 16 years old. Don’t you realize that a TEAM wins or loses, not a QB? Blaming McNabb, is lazy thinking. Losing to the Bucs was bad, but they had one of the best defenses…of ALL TIME! And did you really expect the Eagles to beat the Panthers when our leading tackler that year was Mark Simeoneau? Not to mention Todd Pinkston and James Thrash were our starting WR.
    Look, am I disappointed that we didn’t win the SB? Of course! But was it ALL McNabb’s fault? Nope.
    BTW “i” before “e” except after “c”…

  66. Ty Redofbuck says: May 26, 2010 1:50 PM

    I’m not a fan of either team. Gibbs hit the nail on the head with this one. The Eagles trading away Sheldon Brown and then following that up by trading McNabb is a clear sign that they’re rebuilding and know that they aren’t going to be able to compete with the Cowboys and Giants.
    The Redskins could surprise everyone in that division. If they can figure out how to stop the run, they’ll be hard to beat.

  67. Big Tex says: May 26, 2010 1:51 PM

    @CountSacula
    Yes, the Eagles’ franchise has 3 Championships. Were you alive the last time they won? Were your parents alive? Come on dude, Eisenhower was in the White House.

  68. ham1 says: May 26, 2010 1:52 PM

    egirls get ur panties out of a bunch.
    Gibbs was great. Any feelings you have dont mean shi* to any us look at your posts like a joke.
    Maybe you think fat ass andy is great…keep thinking that…he cant even coach up his drug addict kids while he stuffs his pie hole with one of your great cheesesteaks. You have no super bowl ring and your not gonna get one this year either.

  69. The Black Man says: May 26, 2010 2:09 PM

    As a fan of Football I have seen a balanced offensively New England Patriots team win 3 superbowls. I also watched the 18-1 pass happy Patriots defeated by a more physical New York Giants team. With or without McNabb, the Eagles were going down hill because of the predictable play calling and Andy Reid not making adjustments. McNabb traded from the Eagles was a good idea, but you don’t trade within the division unless you have a Superbowl team like the Patriots did when they traded from Bledsoe. I think the Redskins are going to be successful, not because of McNabb, but what Shanahan is going to do with the running game and McNabb. I wouldn’t worry about the Offensive Line, Shanahan will have them ready at the beginning of the season.

  70. rickah8888 says: May 26, 2010 2:14 PM

    I think Coach Gibbs should call back to back timeouts!

  71. lars thorwald says: May 26, 2010 2:20 PM

    Philly isn’t shy about trading within the division. Anthony Spencer is a Dallas Cowboy because the Eagles were willing to trade their first round pick to Jerry Jones & co. a few years back. And I understand trading McNabb if they really think Kolb is “the guy”. But your starting QB to a divisional rival? I think Gibbs has point……..

  72. Katmanduu says: May 26, 2010 2:22 PM

    Don’t you fools get it?? The Deadskins got fleeced again!! If McNabb was any good, no way Philly makes that deal. He’ll be 34, is not very accurate, and chokes….er, vomits in big games.
    So help me out here….how did Philly make a mistake??

  73. larr999777 says: May 26, 2010 2:24 PM

    The Eagles being a great franchise realized they had to release Mcnabb before his contract expired to obtain anything of value ,this coupled with the fact that Kolb’s developement is right on schedule and he has shown he is ready to lead the team.Iam a Redskin fan and I respect the perfect move the Eagles made for the long term good of their team. They did what was right for Mc Nabb because he deserved that kind of respect. Let’s all relax ,this was a deal that both teams will be blessed by !!! To what level ??? Is the question that only time will answer ??? This is why the NFL is GREAT !!! !!! !!!

  74. Diesteelersdie says: May 26, 2010 2:41 PM

    How dare you Gibbs to have an opinion!!! Also, how dare answer a question truthfully when you were asked one???? Where do you think you are, the free-thinking, tolerant land of Cuba?? NO my friend, this is the USA….you dont just go telling everyone your opinion!!!!

  75. airic31 says: May 26, 2010 2:43 PM

    wvugrad00 says:
    May 26, 2010 11:20 AM
    Gibbs was foolish to show up on First Take, especially if that ass Skip Bayless was on today. That man is the worst thing on ESPN
    TRUER WORDS HAVE NEVER BEEN SPOKEN!!!

  76. Ed1027 says: May 26, 2010 2:48 PM

    The Eagles got a high second round pick for a 34 year old QB that hasn’t signed an extension and might be gone after this year. The Redskins should have insisted on an extension before consumating the deal. If McNabb walks after this year, it will look like a steal.

  77. Chop Block Murphy says: May 26, 2010 2:58 PM

    I hate to agree w/ Gibbs…but I do on this one. Trading McNabb is one thing, but trading him w/in the division? Does anyone think the Redskins won’t be a better team w/ McNabb than they’d have been w/ Campbell?

  78. Roethlisberger's Bitch Tits says: May 26, 2010 3:04 PM

    Spennyhatch:
    Superbowls won in the 80’s dont count since rings were made out of poprocks and creepy crawlers.
    Gibbs is a fool to think Mcnabb is going to do anything with that joke of an offensive line and three hasbeen running backs. Not to mention 2 high round WR bust and an inconsistent Santana Moss.
    But hey, were all 0-0 week one huh Skins fans?

  79. Desean's_speedy_legs says: May 26, 2010 3:04 PM

    Drat says:
    May 26, 2010 11:54 AM
    It was a stupid trade. Donovan McNabb is better than people think. But people start to doubt after the relentless barrage of negativity about Donovan they’ve heard from the really stupid, bitter, aggressive, stupid, fat, stupid, illiterate, stupid, aggressive, idiotic Philadelphia fans who have denigrated him for years. Donovan will find himself so happy to get away from Philadelphia, den of dark-hearted, mean, fat, vacuous goofballs. The only thing Philadelphia is known for at all is putting really horrible, stringy overcooked cow from the slaughterhouse floor (they call it “steak”) on a sandwich of flavorless white flour and smothering it with fake trans-fat “cheese,” which is basically a by-product from some margerine factory.
    ————————————–
    wow, seems like you know philly perfectly don’t you. congratulations, you know what a cheese steak is! grow up and stop being immature. Philadelphia Eagles fans are passionate, and McNabb’s been quoted saying he wanted to stay here.
    Also, to everyone saying the Eagles are going to regret this, i guess you missed mcnabb’s stellar pro bowl performance going 3-10, 78 yards, 1 pic and 1 td. if it wasn’t for djax those numbers would be even worse. Stop acting like you know everything, eagles fans watch every eagles game, and we actually know mcnabb has several flaws that we we were getting very tired of.
    and also,
    Go Flyers!!!!

  80. JunkYardDogg1156 says: May 26, 2010 3:16 PM

    BlondBlueDevils says:
    May 26, 2010 12:30 PM
    130 Million – the measuring stick for a quarterback’s worth………………
    HA HA HA
    —————————————–
    And the LARGEST contract ever VOIDED/RETRACTED/CANCELLED in the HISTORY of sports. Vick’s contract was terminated by the Atlanta Falcons after the 2006 season, the contract was signed in 2005 & terminated in 2006. Nice work Mike Vick!!
    He spent one year as the most overpaid player in the history of sports, then blew it with his horrific, soulless, inhuman behavior.
    But you keep posting your typical, race baiting, idiotic nonsense.

  81. bonecity7 says: May 26, 2010 3:18 PM

    The Black Man says:
    May 26, 2010 2:09 PM
    As a fan of Football I have seen a balanced offensively New England Patriots team win 3 superbowls. I also watched the 18-1 pass happy Patriots defeated by a more physical New York Giants team. With or without McNabb, the Eagles were going down hill because of the predictable play calling and Andy Reid not making adjustments. McNabb traded from the Eagles was a good idea, but you don’t trade within the division unless you have a Superbowl team like the Patriots did when they traded from Bledsoe. I think the Redskins are going to be successful, not because of McNabb, but what Shanahan is going to do with the running game and McNabb. I wouldn’t worry about the Offensive Line, Shanahan will have them ready at the beginning of the season.
    BlackMan,
    There’s no place in here for well thought out, logical posts!!! You threaten to push the “maturity index” of the forum above thirteen years old!!!
    (But I want to offer my sincere thanks for the break you provided from the typical name-calling, facts-deficient posts of the masses).

  82. mama tried says: May 26, 2010 3:20 PM

    Time will tell!! Nuff said!

  83. dawk says: May 26, 2010 3:28 PM

    WarPath wrote:
    “Can’t help but remember that Kolb was the third best QB in his draft class.” REALLY, and how would anyone know that since Kolb has started only a very few games since he was drafted? Third QB drafted, yeah, but that doesn’t necessarily make him the third best. Following WarPath’s logic, what would that make Tom Brady, who was drafted in the sixth round? Hmmm … Hail!
    Gibbs is welcome to his opinion, but it would be good for Gibbs worshipers to remind themselves that it’s opinion. The great thing about this is, someone’s going to have to eat crow, unless they both crash and burn. After eleven years with the guitar-strumming, passive-aggressive goof-ball, I accept that he was the best QB in Eagles history, with the operative word being “was”. It was time to move on.

  84. RedMan says: May 26, 2010 3:38 PM

    # afiresnake says: May 26, 2010 11:50 AM
    McNabb is stupid.
    It’s the same situation as with Bledsoe to the Bills. Everybody said you couldn’t trade a Pro Bowl Qb to a division rival, and the Pats owned the Bills ever since because Bledsoe – though I always liked him – is two dimensional.
    Same with McNabb.
    Reid isn’t dumb.
    _______________________________
    Actually you are dumb and so is Reid. Reid better pray the O-line at Washington really stinks. Otherwise, he is going to regret being such an arrogant ass as to trade the winning-est QB in the Franchises history within the division.
    Patriots released a guy that got benched for a QB that won the Superbowl. The team was better with Brady, hence why they won a Superbowl. Bledsoe was replaced by a way better QB on a Superbowl team. Where he went was not important. His old team was better without him.
    McNabb is being replaced by an unproven back-up, who may or may not even be capable of starting in the league – not a Superbowl winner.
    Do you see the difference, or should I have used smaller words?

  85. december says: May 26, 2010 4:00 PM

    By trading McNabb to the Redskins, Andy Reid has ensured that Washington will not be winning a Super Bowl for as long as they keep him.

  86. mama tried says: May 26, 2010 4:16 PM

    “By trading McNabb to the Redskins, Andy Reid has ensured that Washington will not be winning a Super Bowl for as long as they keep him.”
    OUCH!

  87. donnellyc2 says: May 26, 2010 5:08 PM

    “He’s a big man, he scrambles out of the pocket, he’s hard to get down, and when he gets out of the pocket, he makes big plays down the field.”
    I am a big Eagles fan/ 5 fan but guess what idiot Gibbs…he does not do ANY of these things anymore. He is stricly a pocket passer now.
    The Eagles did the right thing, Kolb and these young receivers must grow together. This team will be in the Super bowl in 4 years

  88. Route36West says: May 26, 2010 11:16 PM

    The only question that matters is do you honestly think the Eagles were going to win a Superbowl with Mcnabb in the next 2-3 years?
    If the answer is no then whats your problem? Why keep a guy on the team that isnt going to win a superbowl here anyway? He also wasnt getting any younger. The Eagles knew he only had 2-3 quality years left in him any how. It was just bad timing. The Eagles knew by the time the rest of team was ready Mcnabb or his skills would probably be gone.
    The longer the Eagles kept him the more his value decreased. He wasnt even under contract past this year. The Eagles would of had to franchise him or offer a huge contract to Mcnabb. Doing that would of made it harder for the team to trade him in the future. Then you have to add in how it would effect Kevin Kolb’s relationship with the front office and his future with the team. You also have to take into account Mcnabbs pension for getting injured. What if they kept him this year and he blew out his knee again? His value would be shot. Doing all this makes no sense if you believe the team isnt championship caliber anyway. That is why the time to trade him was now.
    Also from the front offices point of view if the Eagles arent the team winning the superbowl they dont care which team does. So why not accept the best offer available? It would only hurt the Eagles franchise to accept a lesser offer just to keep Mcnabb out of the division. Doing so just to spite the Redskins is irrational. Doing business based on emotions is going to hurt your chances of succeeding.
    If winning the superbowl is your goal and you know your not going to be able to do it for 3 years the smart and rational thing to do is to accept the best offer that will help you accomplish that goal. What the Redskins offered the Eagles was the best deal available.
    Not accepting that deal because its the Redskins is the emotional thing to do. There success with Mcnabb over the next 2-3 years will not effect the Eagles ultimate goal of winning a superbowl. On the other hand not accepting that deal could have. Taking a lesser deal could have changed them from being a contender in 3 years to 5 years.
    Understanding all of these factors is what keeps teams like the Eagles, Patriots, Steelers, Colts etc. in playoff contentions year after year. That is why teams like theses only seem to be out of contention for 2-3 years before being in the superbowl discussions again. Also thats why it takes teams like the Rams, Lions, Bills, and Raiders so long between runs of success. They dont take all of these factors in to consideration.

  89. Chop Block Murphy says: May 27, 2010 8:26 AM

    Route36West, that’s not the only question. My answer is “no,” they probably weren’t going to win a SB w/ McNabb. So trade him, fine. But there’s an argument to be made against making a team in your own division stronger. You said yourself McNabb potentially has 3 good years left. If he signs an extension…well now you’ve got to deal w/ a (IMO) better version of a team 2x/year that can knock you out of the playoffs in two different ways (div. crown and wild card).
    Now, your point about taking the best offer on the table is valid. And maybe he doesn’t re-up w/ the ‘Skins, or maybe he just flat out falls off the map. This may all turn out for the best. But it was a ballsy move to say the least – if not outright foolish – and it makes me scratch my head a little.

  90. 2sheds says: May 27, 2010 1:48 PM

    Former former Washington Redskins head coach Joe Gibbs has retired retired from football and returned to breathing race car exhaust, but he still keeps up with the team he allegedly coached. And Gibbs says that the Redskins are going to make the Philadelphia Eagles regret trading quarterback Donovan McNabb.
    “I didn’t quite understand that one,” Gibbs said when asked about the trade in an interview on ESPN First Take. “Because what you’re doing is you’re taking someone in the division and giving them a quarterback.”
    Gibbs said that he has first-hand knowledge of McNabb’s abilities from coaching against him, and that the Eagles just gave the Redskins exactly the kind of quarterback they need.
    “My problem with Donovan was when we played against them, he hurt us,” Gibbs said. “He’s a big man, he scrambles out of the pocket, he’s hard to get down, and when he gets out of the pocket, he makes big plays down the field… plus, I can’t coach a retriever to fetch.”

  91. BLeedGreeN4Life says: May 27, 2010 5:07 PM

    I find it funny that all skins fans love mcnabb now and think that he is the best quarterback in the league but when he was an eagle everybody loved to bash him and say how much of a choke artist he was and how he would never win a championship. I don’t agree with trading him within the division but I do agree with giving Kevin Kolb a chance. Everybody is hatin on him and he started 2 games (both in which he threw for 300 yards). Give the kid a chance. The eagles run a west coast offense and that is not Donovans type of offense. He is far to inaccurate on short passes when they are trying to pick up a first down. I believe that Kolb will run the offense alot more efficiently and any skins fan that thinks their team will finish with a better record is smokin crack. Don’t forget who finished 4-12 last year..

  92. obxfannings says: May 27, 2010 9:57 PM

    The idea that Gibbs doesn’t know offense indicates a total lack of NFL football history and knowledge. He is from the Coryell Tree as is Ernie Zampese who tutored Norv Turner and (lo and behold) Jason Garrett, the current boy wonder of the Dallas Cowboys – this for all you Gibbs/Redskins haters. Joe Gibbs did take his team to 4 Super Bowls with 3 different QB’s after all. All the McNabb hating and supporting seems to ignore the fact that McNabb has a new coach who has a plan and a pedigree. Remember, John Elway was Jim Kelly prior to Mike Shanahan – now he is viewed as a Winner. McNabb rarely had a receiving corp (Freddie Mitchell?) and never had a running game to rely on. Sound Familiar? Elway had nobodies also – the 3 Amigos? PUHLEASE!! Somehow he got to be a winner. Could the addition of a running game with Terrell Davis and real receivers like Rod Smith and Shannon Sharpe with a great coach like Mike Shanahan have transformed John Elway from also-ran to WINNER? There are changes happening at Redskins Park, discipline, order and a plan have taken the place of chaos and player-centered anarchy. You are starting to see Dan liking the role of THE SQUIRE ( may he rest in a high rollers peace) and letting football guys guide the ship. the chang of culture is happening and it is one of the biggest stories of the off-season. Maybe no need to be afraid, but definitely be aware. And you life-hating, self-loathing haters from Eagle Land, go up the stairs and ask Mom for a TastyKake and head back to the basement of your self-contempt.

  93. NitshkesGhost@1265 says: May 28, 2010 5:58 AM

    This is why Joe Gibbs is now coaching guys that make four left turns, and not in the NFL. Not a Eagle fan, but moving McNabb for what they recieved was a good move. Bye Bye Joe Obsolete the game has left you in the dust. Good luck with the redneck charriot races.

  94. flip_em_the_birds says: May 28, 2010 2:55 PM

    Ask yourselves this question:
    If this was such a “no brainer” for the future success of the Skins, they why no contract extension?
    It’s great to analyze what Gibbs comments are, but you are ignoring the lack of faith that the Skins are showing.
    I think Shanahan knows a thing or two about Quarterbacks, and is a touch more relevant to the 2010 season than Gibbs. So why no contract extension? Isn’t that what you do when you trade for an answer to your qb problem?
    Because Shanahan knows what Reid already knew. He is not a long term answer for EITHER team.

  95. phillyvsdaworld says: May 30, 2010 10:32 AM

    its funny how every philly post is top ten. i love it! no one hated mcnabb he is flawed and hasnt been elite since 04. it gonna feel so good kicking the nfc east ass this year and saying we told you so!

  96. Skins4Life81 says: May 31, 2010 3:17 PM

    Can’t wait til the new season. As long as the Cowgirls don’t make it to the Superbowl in their house, I’ll be happy.

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