Comments on: On cold-weather Super Bowls, Pandora's icebox is wide open

By: RandallC

RandallC — Thu, 27 May 2010 13:59:16 +0000

Why would someone in Green Bay be wearing a nutria hat? That critter does not exist in Wisconsin. But we’d sure be glad to ship them a few million from down here.

By: HC

HC — Thu, 27 May 2010 11:00:55 +0000

What’s being lost by most in this ‘play the game outdoors in the cold’ argument is that the Super Bowl is a huge revenue event for a very profitable business, the NFL. Cities have to put up millions of dollars to host the event, prove they have the infrastructure to support a week’s worth of events, and reasonably expect to get a return on their investment.
It’s not as simple as saying, ‘it’s the Super Bowl, people will love it, it will be great.’ Seriously, who is going to want to spend a week or more in Green Bay in February? If the game is played there (or Cleveland, Baltimore, Buffalo, Cincinnati, etc.) then people are only going to show up the day of the game or the day before – and the city will have lost millions of dollars. In addition many of these places (e.g., Green Bay, Foxboro) are too far away from enough hotel and meeting space to make it happen.
New York is unique because it is a destination, a place people would like to visit – even in February. That’s a large part of the appeal of warm weather cities hosting the Super Bowl. Think of college bowl games; games held in Florida draw a lot more fans than games held in places where there is snow on the ground.
People seem to be solely focused on the elements possibly affecting the outcome; that’s a moot point. It’s all about the city and region drawing enough people, for a long enough period of time, so those people spend enough money for that city to make a return on their investment of what they had to pay to win the rights to host the Super Bowl.
With that in mind I’ll be curious to see how many people go to Indianapolis more than a day before the game when they host the Super Bowl.

By: hufcane

hufcane — Thu, 27 May 2010 10:15:39 +0000

the whole conspiracy theory that this was done to sell psl’s is pretty dumb. someones goin to fork over psl costs just to be in a pool for super bowl tix. by the way the giants and jets are probably goin to get under 1000 tix each. so unless u think u have the mojo the psl theory doesnt work. it def should help with the naming rights.

By: robsterNY

robsterNY — Thu, 27 May 2010 09:44:12 +0000

ALL RIGHT!!!!… Its been decided already. Lets see what happens ..most of ya will be comfy in your living rooms anyway. …This IS about football …not half time shows..half naked hoes….Play ball !!!

By: Tcostant

Tcostant — Thu, 27 May 2010 08:34:39 +0000

Bottom line no cold weather Super Bowl will be award until after this one in 2014 is played. If it goes well, then the Skins and Ravens and the like can put their bids together.

By: FalconsFan

FalconsFan — Thu, 27 May 2010 07:11:06 +0000

PincheGato
PSL’s are no good when it comes to events like the Super Bowl. NFL Season Ticket Holders are thrown into a drawing if their team makes the Super Bowl to buy X number of tickets, but Jets/Giants season ticket holders won’t have the first right of refusal on these seats. It’s a nice conspiracy theory but it’s simply not a valid one.

By: wvugrad00

wvugrad00 — Thu, 27 May 2010 07:11:03 +0000

the SB should be in a rotation between all stadiums. If the NFL wants to always have the SB in warm weather place, they should build a stadium in LA, and play the SB game there every year. To justify the cost of the stadium, when the NFL adds games to the schedule there should be a thursday or more likley a saturday game played in the new stadium, make it a MNF type event. The NFL could also play the pro bowl there as well. If they were to do that they could get 8 -10 games a year in LA

By: FalconsFan

FalconsFan — Thu, 27 May 2010 07:08:23 +0000

The only people complaining about the Super Bowl being played in a cold climate are the whinny sports writers who use Super Bowl week as a paid vacation.

By: steelerfan9598

steelerfan9598 — Thu, 27 May 2010 07:06:28 +0000

The last 5 years, the average temperature in East Rutherford on February 2nd has been 47 degrees.
If the rain or snow affects the game – guess what? BOTH teams are playing in it.
Tuck the skirts in bitches!

By: Munze Konza

Munze Konza — Thu, 27 May 2010 06:17:37 +0000

Ye sit’s a man’s game and conference championships are played in cold weather. But those teams earned the right to host a game in their cold weather stadium. A team does not earn the right to host a Superbowl like they do a championship. The elements have the potential to affect one team much more drastically than another.

By: wxwax

wxwax — Thu, 27 May 2010 03:13:11 +0000

You seem to be obsessed with how many owners voted for NY.
Tell me, how many owners voted for Goodell as commissioner on the first and second ballots?
Now tell me why it matters.

By: The Black Cat

The Black Cat — Thu, 27 May 2010 02:46:50 +0000

1. I’m pretty sure that one game in a non-warm climate will not be the end of the NFL. The playoffs have ALWAYS been in inclimate weather and the NFL manages quite fine, thank-you very much.
2. The only people who will actually b*tch about it will be reporters like you, and fat cats with free corporate tickets who could care less about the football game anyway.
3. I doubt many people will actually travel to the game, since so many huge corporations are headquartered in New York. 3/4ths of the people will probably drive from their house.
4. Why the heck must we pretend this is a New York Superbowl,and that it’ll help New York, when its played in New Jersey?? How is this helping New York in any way?

By: PincheGato

PincheGato — Thu, 27 May 2010 01:13:02 +0000

Surprised no one has mentioned the benefits to the Giants and Jets front offices and season ticket holders in regards to purchasing these SB Tickets.
Both of these teams have a high amount of PSL season tickets left. The benefit of being in the hunt for SB tickets would be a major magnet to sell these remaining PSLs. The financial benefits to the teams are huge with regards to selling out their PSLs. The NFL also avoids any embarassing non sell-outs in NY (cough…cough Jets….).

By: ButchD

ButchD — Thu, 27 May 2010 01:08:47 +0000

Floryhole youre missing the best part of a cold weather SB, the weather could be so bad theres no half time show!!! how awesome would that be!!!

By: Topher

Topher — Thu, 27 May 2010 01:07:49 +0000

It can’t be a one time only affair because Detroit just hosted a few years ago (complete with ice sculptures) and now New York. That makes it relatively common.
You know… as common as Super Bowls outside of Florida anyway.

By: The_Emperor

The_Emperor — Thu, 27 May 2010 00:20:13 +0000

This isn’t a news story. This is just you pissing and moaning. In the words of Arnold Schwarzenegger…
“STOP WHINING!”

By: HC

HC — Thu, 27 May 2010 00:18:26 +0000

birdmancometh says:
I hear you GBfan, but joe tax payer benifits from the extra revenue gained by the local businesses during super bowl week.
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Please explain the math in which $5 million of expenses is worth an additional $100k of tax revenues and $1 million of net profits to a handful of businesses, most of which are not owned locally.

By: east96street.

east96street. — Thu, 27 May 2010 00:06:53 +0000

Dryheave says: “I GUARANTEE the next day the MEDIA will be screaming about how it was a FLUKY,TAINTED victory and how the favored team would have won under “normal conditions”
1) Who cares?
2) Super Bowl XLII – Favored team lost under “normal conditions”.

By: TheVerve

TheVerve — Wed, 26 May 2010 23:39:43 +0000

This is just another reason that the Green Bay front office (and all Packer fans) are complete idiots!
Drafting Tony Mandarich, letting Brett Favre go, and now this.
Seriously. Idiots.
Plus, Green Bay isn’t even a city. It’s a village. It’s a village without a Village Idiot…Because they’re all idiots.

By: hubeee

hubeee — Wed, 26 May 2010 23:26:58 +0000

Why should warm weather team location collect all th Super Bowl $$$$? Especially when two cold weather teams are playing.
Superbowl should be home field advantage foe team with best overall record. Anything else is BS

By: shogate

shogate — Wed, 26 May 2010 23:05:07 +0000

An official snow bowl would be awesome to watch for a change. 1 vote for Cleveland

By: DVJ

DVJ — Wed, 26 May 2010 22:57:32 +0000

This game won’t even happen…2012!!! lol

By: 90ragtop

90ragtop — Wed, 26 May 2010 22:56:26 +0000

Jesus, Florio, give it a rest. We get the piece about you not liking Northern towns in winter. But the owners aren’t going to change their vote on your account.

By: birdmancometh

birdmancometh — Wed, 26 May 2010 22:16:36 +0000

I hear you GBfan, but joe tax payer benifits from the extra revenue gained by the local businesses during super bowl week.

By: HC

HC — Wed, 26 May 2010 22:08:29 +0000

Mike Florio says:
When South Florida host committee chairman Rodney Barreto complained that the extra $1 million that Miami thrown into the offer on the eve of the vote wasn’t enough to pry the game from New York, the implicit message to other warm-weather locales could be this: “Try harder.”
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Looks like the cat is out of the bag. A million here, ten million there; before you know it we’re talking real money here. My guess is Miami loses on on the next SB bid as well for that little slip of the tongue.
Apparently in the current thesaurus another phrase for “try harder” is “pay more”, or perhaps “that bribe is not quite big enough.”

By: Bigbluefan

Bigbluefan — Wed, 26 May 2010 21:56:22 +0000

What is wrong with this ahole why is he so againest this game
Anti Giants or anti NY ?
Whats your issue Nancy
Your in WV why your even allowed to write about the NFL I will never know
NYC is the business capital of the US and the entertainment capital and the city that every other want to be

By: east96street.

east96street. — Wed, 26 May 2010 21:53:51 +0000

“In the end, the NFL will continue to win, and win big. The only surprise in this regard is that it took the league 48 Super Bowls to figure this out.”
Now, it’s a brilliant strategic move. A few hours ago it was “Russian roulette”. You’re an insufferable ass.

By: Dryheave

Dryheave — Wed, 26 May 2010 21:43:59 +0000

Right now most of the media I’ve seen or heard has been favorable but mark my words, this will happen……… Say one team is HEAVILIY favored over the other. The Game is played in a BLIZZARD…There are 10 fumbles. The UNDERDOG team wins….I GUARANTEE the next day the MEDIA will be screaming about how it was a FLUKY,TAINTED victory and how the favored team would have won under “normal conditions”….I can see this coming a mile away………Like I said I think football should be played outdoors. If your team is in a cold weather city then that’s all part of homefield advantage and a bonus if you get the #1 seed……..but the SUPER BOWL should be played in a warm weather city or a dome……I also think this was a STUPID IDEA to have it in New York.
To the guy who said, “so it’s O.K for weather to be a factor in conference championship games but not the Super Bowl?”…….the answer is YES!!…..It’s called HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE…..but the ULTIMATE game should be played under EQUAL conditions……who wants to see a Super Bowl in a freeking BLIZZARD?…….not me, it would be ridiculous

By: Occam

Occam — Wed, 26 May 2010 21:38:13 +0000

“PurpleJesus says:
How many articles can you write on a game that is 4 years away?”
Just wait until the results of the PFT-backed studies on the effects of cold and snow on the probability of a coin flip are published. Should be ground breaking.

By: dafreak

dafreak — Wed, 26 May 2010 21:34:15 +0000

“Must win 6 Super bowls to host the game! Give it to the burgh!!!”
Why even make that statement? You just won’t take “no” as an answer anyways.