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New York Super Bowl will determine future cold-weather city chances

At first, we heard the New York Super Bowl was a “one-time” exception to the usual warm weather drills.

Now it sounds like the league is open to possibly playing in an undomed cold weather stadium in the future.  First, the NFL wants to see how New York goes.

Commissioner Roger Goodell spoke at the commencement ceremonies of UMass-Lowell (he was introduced by Patriots owner Robert Kraft), and said after the speech that the success of the New York experiment will determine if future wintry Super Bowls are possible.

That means that the cold weather Super Bowl issue will essentially be tabled for the next three years and the 2015, 2016, and 2017 Super Bowls should be played in warm weather or indoors.

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  1. HC says: May 29, 2010 2:01 PM

    Well that was a pretty quick flip-flop by Goodell; didn’t he just say a few days ago that NY/NJ was a one-time exception to the Super Bowl temperature / capacity requirements?

  2. s.martin17 says: May 29, 2010 2:03 PM

    The NFL needs to spred the wealth!! I’m sick and tired of the Super Bowl only being played in nice weather, and the same 2-4 city’s. It’s not fair to the other markets. Seattle would be a great place for the Super Bowl, but they would have to add about 10,000 more seats to Qwest Field.

  3. Bearfan54 says: May 29, 2010 2:17 PM

    The only cold weather stadiums the league will consider are the ones with 70,000 + seating.

  4. Bona Fide says: May 29, 2010 2:17 PM

    This shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone. If the NY Super Bowl is a big flop, it’s going to close the door on Super Bowls outside of the south or SoCal for the next decade at least.
    On the flip side, if it’s a big hit then you’re gonna have Baltimore, Minny, GB, and Chicago lining up for their shot.

  5. FoF says: May 29, 2010 2:19 PM

    It would be beyond awesome if this SB was played in a blizzard. NY thinks it is entitled to everything, a SB shouldn’t be one of them.

  6. dklein82 says: May 29, 2010 2:31 PM

    there’s nothing worse than a season of replacement players… except a season of replacement players, playing a cold weather super bowl.

  7. svenhoek says: May 29, 2010 2:40 PM

    This might go well for 3-4 years. Then one year, one of these cities is going to get slammed with an ice storm or blizzard, and it will never happen again.

  8. TFBuckFutter says: May 29, 2010 2:54 PM

    This is brilliant.
    So unless there happens to be a blizzard or something else that affects THAT game, they will continue doing it until that DOES happen.
    Hmm. Sounds just like the plan to change overtime. Don’t do shit until there’s a major problem, even if it’s apparent that, eventually, that’s going to happen.
    That’s the great thing about being a monopoly…..you never have to be proactive to continue drawing consumers.

  9. sullijo says: May 29, 2010 2:56 PM

    I think Kansas City would be nice in February. Wait, nevermind.

  10. IAVikefan says: May 29, 2010 2:57 PM

    Cue the stupid Packer fans who always beleive they’re entitled to something to start yapping about Lamblow in 3,2,1…

  11. geek says: May 29, 2010 3:03 PM

    Sounds to me more like he was pandering to an audience that clearly thought Foxboro is the ideal place for a SB. I wouldn’t take anything he said seriously until we see it happen.

  12. edgy1957 says: May 29, 2010 3:03 PM

    BTW, I have FINALLY tweaked my plan to the point that it is politically feasible and could mean a Super Bowl for the Vikings because it gets them their domed stadium. I have sent my tweak to the Gov. I’d like to send it to Wilf but I can’t find a way to get it to him. Florio?
    http://boards.edgy-sports.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2479&p=5799#p5799

  13. PackerFanforDecades says: May 29, 2010 3:31 PM

    I was very, very happy the Pack was playing in Green Bay instead of New Jersey for that 2007 NFC Championship game, despite the frigid conditions.
    Now, between the overtime coin toss and the instant Brett released that interception, I was feeling pretty optimistic. I recall thinking what a blessing it would be to play someplace else two weeks later … with weather removed as as a factor.
    When a guy in a white pants caught Brett’s release, I recall thinking that the intense cold contributed to that error.
    I know from ample personal experience that after I’ve been outside that long in those kind of conditions, I just get worn down. The muscles don’t work like “normal” when you get cold enough. It gets real hard to come up with a burst of energy to get something done with any kind of precision and concentration.
    Try getting a tight knot out of a shoelace after you’ve been shivering for a while. You start thinking pocket knife right away.
    So ……. conclusion ……… I’d a-l-w-a-y-s pick Lambeau Field for an NFC Championship game instead of the opponent’s stadium. But my opinion is that it’s time to get the heck out of Green Bay and get your hands and feet warmed up for the Super Bowl at a nuetral place.

  14. east96street. says: May 29, 2010 3:37 PM

    FoF says: “NY thinks it is entitled to everything, a SB shouldn’t be one of them. ”
    Another ignorant comment from an inbred PFT reader. Let me guess – from fly over country, right? Here’s the deal moron, first, NY has paid far more in taxes than it has gotten back from the Feds for decades now. We, and A LOT of other Blue states (New Jersey, Connecticut, etc), have, essentially, been supporting deadbeat states such as Alaska, Mississippi, West Virginia, Alabama, etc., for years. Let us keep our money and you’ll never hear from us again – promise. Second, Wellington Mara is probably the only reason whatever backwater you live in has a NFL team. He insisted on revenue sharing from the start. Without Mara, the NFL as you know it would not exist. Only teams in top TV markets would survive and you would have a league identical to baseball where the richest teams routinely buy championships. Yeah, the Giants were entitled to this game, absolutely. As one of the earliest franchises and one whose owners made many sacrifices to grow the League, they had that right. What have the owners of the Saints, the Bucs, and the Dolphins ever done for the League that they get a virtual monopoly on the biggest game of the year? Nothing! Don’t want to attend a Super Bowl in the Meadowlands? Fine. Don’t come. We won’t miss you. Chances are the moment you walked into a neighborhood that wasn’t lily white you’d soil yourself anyway.

  15. PackerFanforDecades says: May 29, 2010 3:46 PM

    Just for fun I’ve just completed a very sophisticated probabilistic analysis about this future season’s NFC Championship game. These mathematical results are subject to a undetermined margin of error:
    Chance of NFC Championship game being played in Green Bay in January 2011:
    36.639%
    Chance that Brett will throw an interception during the overtime period of that game in Lambeau:
    17.321%
    It’s amazing what you can figure out with an Excel spreadsheet these days.

  16. edgy1957 says: May 29, 2010 4:04 PM

    east96street. says:
    Second, Wellington Mara is probably the only reason whatever backwater you live in has a NFL team. He insisted on revenue sharing from the start.
    *****************************
    Sorry but while he went along with the plan, it was Rozelle’s idea, which he got from the AFL, who shared their revenue from the very beginning.

  17. MtnDew says: May 29, 2010 4:33 PM

    Bringing the super bowl to cold weather will be great for the league i believe… I cant wait till the play the game at the Vikings new stadium… in LOS ANGELES!!!! Go Pack!

  18. packers4life says: May 29, 2010 4:37 PM

    “The NFL needs to spred the wealth!! I’m sick and tired of the Super Bowl only being played in nice weather, and the same 2-4 city’s”
    I completly agree. I am getting tired of the Super Bowl being held in Miami or New Orleans every year.

  19. Raven Maniac says: May 29, 2010 4:54 PM

    east96street says: way too much.
    you are SET on the fact that the world
    revolves around NY and the NFL around Mara. I wish I could get credit for insisting on something like you are giving Mara. You are basically saying we should change the name to the Mara Football League, saying all other US states OWE NY bc NY is so great and rich and everywhere else is trash, and using that as your defense for why NY SB is deserved? Major business and industry made NY rich, not NY making NY rich. Take NYC out of NY and you are the same backriver you claim the other states are. Don’t embarrass yourself.

  20. edgy1957 says: May 29, 2010 6:29 PM

    Raven Maniac says:
    east96street says: way too much.
    you are SET on the fact that the world
    *************************
    Back in the ’60s, the Giants DID do a great service for the NFL because they gave up a significant amount of revenue to the smaller franchises to help offset the fact that the AFL had some pretty deep pockets that could keep their franchises afloat AND spend them under the table. It wasn’t Mara’s idea like he said but he did go along with the plan for the good of the NFL. The truth is, Hunt, Adams, Hilton and Wilson could have taken down the NFL EASILY but they chose to give up their share of revenue to help keep Boston, Denver, New York and Denver afloat (New York would get their act together when Sonny Werblin took over and Al Davis would later stabilize the Raiders). None of the teams in the NFL would have been able to get an average contract individually as they did when they spread the wealth. The Giants gave up a LOT of revenue. Think about how much more local broadcasting revenue that the Yankees have than all the other franchises, including the Mets and Dodgers, that’s how much better the Giants’ contract was than the rest of the NFL.

  21. Bob Nelson says: May 29, 2010 6:59 PM

    Lambeau Field, the NFL finest stadium, would be wonderful a venue for a Super Bowl.
    Last season they were voted the NFL’s best grounds crew for how well they handle the field especially in cold weather.
    Football officionados could spend a whole week in the Packer Hall of Fame enjoying all the exhibits and not see it all.
    Corporate sponsors would actually love it as a venues.
    More than two thumbs up.

  22. FoF says: May 29, 2010 7:54 PM

    “Last season they were voted the NFL’s best grounds crew for how well they handle the field especially in cold weather. ”
    Was that before or after McLardy fired them for telling him not to f’k it up against Favre (which he did)?

  23. don't know says: May 29, 2010 8:10 PM

    This NY super Bowl stuff has caused quite a stir, wait until the Super Bowl is played in London or Mexico.

  24. sasquash69 says: May 29, 2010 11:08 PM

    I’m happy New Jersey got the SB but every stadium and city in the league should get a SB as well.

  25. BBB82 says: May 30, 2010 12:34 AM

    Don’t you mean New Jersey?

  26. realitypolice says: May 30, 2010 2:13 AM

    I live in the NY, and I don’t want the super bowl here. The reason is not that I don’t like cold weather football, it’s because I was witness to three snowstorms this year that paralyzed the city and would have wreaked incredible havoc on the logistics of moving people from Manhattan to the Meadowlands.
    Based on this new development, I now have another reason to oppose a cold weather Super Bowl. Part of what makes the SB the unique, world class event that it has become is all of the activity that surrounds it, and the fact that the game is played in it’s purest form- skill on skill with no outside element or home field advantage weighed in. The Super Bowl is supposed to be different- a uniquely American event played on the grandest stage.
    People say the game should be played in the elements because regular season and playoff games are- but isn’t the point of the SB, and the thing that has made is so great, the fact that it is unlike any other event in the world? Don’t we strip away this unique and great aspect of the SB if we make it just like every other game?

  27. realitypolice says: May 30, 2010 2:23 AM

    Bob Nelson says:
    May 29, 2010 6:59 PM
    Lambeau Field, the NFL finest stadium, would be wonderful a venue for a Super Bowl.
    Last season they were voted the NFL’s best grounds crew for how well they handle the field especially in cold weather.
    Football officionados could spend a whole week in the Packer Hall of Fame enjoying all the exhibits and not see it all.
    Corporate sponsors would actually love it as a venues.
    More than two thumbs up.
    ==============================
    You’re a fool. Where would everyone stay? Don’t give me Appleton, like some other fool gave me earlier in the week. This isn’t a visiting team and a few of their fans needing hotel rooms, this is tens of thousands of people needing rooms.
    Jacksonville, which has 5 times more rooms than Green Bay and Appleton combined, fell short of what was needed and had to import cruise ships for people to stay on.
    People: the SB is more than a football game. It is the biggest single day event in the world attended by more out of town fans, celebrities, and media members than any other event in the US. Just because you have a team and a stadium, it doesn’t mean your city has the infrastructure is capable of hosting Super Bowl.
    It just doesn’t. Get over it. Move on.

  28. CJV123 says: May 30, 2010 6:19 AM

    Nice job, E96th.
    Don’t expect these Red State Tea Party trailer-trash to learn anything from it, though.

  29. HC says: May 30, 2010 7:19 PM

    @ realitypolice:
    What are you trying to turn this site into, with intelligent, rational comments? There’s no room for that here!

  30. PackerFanforDecades says: May 30, 2010 8:16 PM

    It’s true. Green Bay does have limitations on hotel space.
    I had to book a room 45 minutes away in Manitowoc, Wisconsin for my family last early-August. That was the closest room I could get on last-minute notice in order to enable my family’s attendence at the annual Friday night intra-squad scrimmage. I think I got the last free room in Manitowoc.
    A tent encampment is not the answer in February in Green Bay. Cruise ships don’t dock there in February either.

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