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Polygraph showed Jolly was "deceptive"

Packers defensive end Johnny Jolly Jr.’s felony drug trial continues to be pushed back, and he’s had harsher restrictions placed on his bond.  As for the latter development, we may have an additional explanation.

Court documents from May 19 reportedly show that Jolly was “deceptive” when quizzed about his bond stipulations by a polygraph services company.  The test was voluntary, but Jolly agreed to take it.  He just didn’t answer truthfully, readings showed.
In particular, Jolly was found to be most deceptive when asked two questions: 
1. Did you consume any alcoholic beverage since December 15, 2009?
2. Have you drank any alcohol that you’re deliberately not telling me about since last December 15th?
“It is this examiner’s professional opinion that the polygrams revealed that there was deception involved,” wrote Mike Boyd of Boyd, Smith & Associates at the time.  
Another examiner conducted the exam blind and came up with the same results.  Given the opportunity to come clean post-test, Jolly refused.
Pictures were discovered days later of Jolly with a drink in his hand.  Jolly was then ordered to submit a hair follicle test and abide by a 6 p.m. to 6 a.m. curfew, among other things.
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43 Responses to “Polygraph showed Jolly was "deceptive"”
  1. John El Way says: Jun 1, 2010 6:53 PM

    yeah, but does he watch Melrose Place?

  2. jeremiah says: Jun 1, 2010 6:56 PM

    big deal. those results aren’t even admissable in court. they do nothing but serve to sway the court of public opinion.
    let me know when the follicle test results are in.

  3. LewD says: Jun 1, 2010 6:57 PM

    Ho, ho, ho!

  4. footballrulz says: Jun 1, 2010 6:58 PM

    Huh-oh

  5. Occam says: Jun 1, 2010 7:05 PM

    Have a Poly, Jolly trial.
    Did you consume any beer?
    I don’t know, if you did blow,
    but you were drunk, I fear.
    Have a Poly, Jolly trial.
    Your deception is quite clear.
    Oh, by golly, have a Poly Jolly trial,
    this year!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Try the veal.

  6. Chiefs2010 says: Jun 1, 2010 7:08 PM

    talk about draconian…
    Hair follicle test? Drink in hand? Better than fast food in hand, in my opinion..
    He better have been moving coke or meth, and if this is the case he should be locked up as a flight risk..
    I don’t condone pot use or the sale thereof – unless you’re talented, smart or interesting – it has no value and does not make you more uniqure or talented, it’s simply a time waster for foolish juveniles who enjoy tomfoolery – a teenagers drug – if you will.(Or professional athletes who can sit around and play Madden all day, but I digress)
    American laws are incredibly harsh in cases like this but lenient in DWIs, child abuse, abandoment, etc.., immigration, etc..
    Give this dude a break – hair follicles? He should flee the country on principle.

  7. rjgreen3 says: Jun 1, 2010 7:15 PM

    jackass, cheese packer

  8. bigfog says: Jun 1, 2010 7:28 PM

    Lots of talent, short on brains. Thinking he’ll be getting the “Thank you for your service Johnny” treatment when the season’s over.

  9. irishgary says: Jun 1, 2010 7:30 PM

    Not a real sharp guy and won’t factor in the Packs long range plan. Still surprised the fool has not signed his tender. The pack should offer less because of the risk.

  10. Bob Nelson says: Jun 1, 2010 7:31 PM

    He may have drank alcohol during a six month period.
    Why should an innocent until proven guilty man have any restriction on adult beverages?

  11. funi says: Jun 1, 2010 7:33 PM

    Typical Packer a liar! Look at Favre and Chumira! Suspend thsi man 8 games Mr. Godell!!!

  12. SKINSFANTOM says: Jun 1, 2010 7:39 PM

    damn cheaters

  13. august says: Jun 1, 2010 7:48 PM

    gestapo type stuff.

  14. Roy Biggins says: Jun 1, 2010 7:58 PM

    Anyone who takes a polygraph for any reason at all is an idiot. There’s as much scientific basis for them as for e-meters.

  15. AFCrunsthroughMIA says: Jun 1, 2010 8:05 PM

    I took a lie detector once, and I came back deceptive even though I was telling the truth. Not admissible in court for a reason.

  16. Just JTO says: Jun 1, 2010 8:12 PM

    This is what gets me. Roethlisberger isn’t even charged and he gets 6 games. This ass is charged in a drug case and lies on a polygraph test. Guess that’s not a violation of the league’s player conduct code, eh Commish?????
    If you can get 6 games for being an arrogant ass, why shouldn’t Jolly be disciplined now? Guess Roethlisberger was the guy Goodell wanted to make an example of … But so far nothing here. Hmmmm.

  17. RealityTrip says: Jun 1, 2010 8:13 PM

    Those sneaky Packer players…..

  18. bluestree says: Jun 1, 2010 8:14 PM

    Looks like Jolly will lose his starting spot to Pickett. Too bad, he was very athletic. But Pick holds up very well at the point. And the Packers added depth. Coincidence? Not. Jolly’s halfway out the door.

  19. NinerNation says: Jun 1, 2010 8:16 PM

    Polygraphs are far more accurate than many of you know…take a PD polygraph and then say that they’re full of it.

  20. Ride Captain says: Jun 1, 2010 8:42 PM

    A Polygraph is only as good as the examiner.

  21. Stuart Scotts left eye says: Jun 1, 2010 9:10 PM

    NinerNation,
    sure, it’s accurate if you don’t know anything about polygraphs. A deceptive answer is, really, how much relief is felt just after a question is asked. It measures blood pressure, sweating and breathing. Many people have “fooled” the polygraph, including convicted murderers. Also, any type of reaction after a question could be viewed as deceptive, ANY reaction. Conceivably, if Jolly were to feel anxiety about a question just prior to a question, whether he was lying or not, a natural reaction is to be relieved. Some feel anger towards a question, which is also natural, and it could be viewed as deceptive.
    The US is the only country in the world to use the polygraph. IMHO, it’s more of a tool to get people to confess than it is for conviction.
    I’m not judging him either way, just that the polygraph results coming back deceptive and releasing it to the media is a joke if it’s not used in court. it’s like me saying that he looks nervous and making a press release for it.

  22. Old School says: Jun 1, 2010 9:12 PM

    The court is the least of Jolly’s problems. All indications are that the Packers have drafted to be able to move on without him.
    Too bad. He’s an athletically talented guy. Strong physically, but weak mentally.

  23. lebowski says: Jun 1, 2010 9:23 PM

    Bye bye, jackass.

  24. GBPackers says: Jun 1, 2010 9:29 PM

    With all this going on, wouldn’t you think he would have signed his tender???

  25. Calistin says: Jun 1, 2010 9:39 PM

    GB Packers,
    Not to hate, but you might wanna do some reading. Packers have moved Pickett to DE and Raji to NT. So yeah….

  26. packman says: Jun 1, 2010 9:45 PM

    Jolly must never watch Bullshit with Penn and Teller.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9NSXy176oA

  27. PossibleCabbage says: Jun 1, 2010 9:46 PM

    Polygraph tests are absolute bullshit. Any innocent person can fail one if they don’t know what they’re doing and any guilty person can pass one if they do know what they’re doing. People who administer polygraph tests tend to be experts in getting people to fail them, when that’s what they’re getting paid to do.
    Thankfully, Polygraph data is not admissible in any courtroom, since it’s simply 100% bullshit pseudoscience.

  28. PossibleCabbage says: Jun 1, 2010 9:49 PM

    Actually, I want to amend my statement. Polygraphs aren’t admissible in federal court, and aren’t admissible in court in 31/50 states, including Texas. What the hell those 19 states are thinking allowing a test that the Scientific community has near-total consensus on the fact that it’s bullshit, I have no idea.

  29. Bob Nelson says: Jun 1, 2010 9:50 PM

    GBPackers, you haven’t kept up on your team.
    Pickett right now is the starting end and Raji the NT.
    You owe bluestree a whole lot of apology.

  30. seals says: Jun 1, 2010 10:11 PM

    Jolly drinking beer is not as bad as clay on the juice, clay should teach jolly how to beat the test.

  31. GBPackers says: Jun 1, 2010 10:12 PM

    Bob Nelson says: June 1, 2010 9:50 PM
    GBPackers, you haven’t kept up on your team.
    Pickett right now is the starting end and Raji the NT.
    You owe bluestree a whole lot of apology.
    ====================================
    …………..zzzzZZZZZzzzzzzZZZZZzzzz……………………
    And Aaron Kampman was going to be moved from DE to OLB successfully too right?? Big ol’ Pick will be back in the middle come September!
    An apology??? Hah, yeah right. Bob, I think you owe Green Bay an apology for making Pack fans look like complete douchebags.

  32. GBPackers says: Jun 1, 2010 10:20 PM

    # Calistin says: June 1, 2010 9:39 PM
    GB Packers,
    Not to hate, but you might wanna do some reading. Packers have moved Pickett to DE and Raji to NT. So yeah….
    ======================================
    I know what you mean, but what I am saying is that Pick is not the one gaining here, as he will be on the field regardless(If you disagree I can give you 7 Million reasons why he will be). If/when Jolly is not suspended, Jolly will be playing End and most likely Pick will be back in the middle. Jolly is a machine, at least when he is not slaying dope!

  33. wxwax says: Jun 1, 2010 11:45 PM

    How do we know he wasn’t just upset about the interrogator’s crappy grammar?

  34. County K 66ers says: Jun 2, 2010 12:18 AM

    Jolly is not guilty which is why the D.A. is stringing this case out for so long.

  35. whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says: Jun 2, 2010 1:36 AM

    Just JTO says: June 1, 2010 8:12 PM
    This is what gets me. Roethlisberger isn’t even charged and he gets 6 games. This ass is charged in a drug case and lies on a polygraph test. Guess that’s not a violation of the league’s player conduct code, eh Commish?????
    If you can get 6 games for being an arrogant ass, why shouldn’t Jolly be disciplined now? Guess Roethlisberger was the guy Goodell wanted to make an example of … But so far nothing here. Hmmmm.
    —————
    Are you a new fan to the game of the NFL? If you aren’t, then you would be aware that Goodell does not dole out punishment on a first time offense until the court case. In Rapistberger’s case, he was accused twice in a 12 month period. Kind of a big difference, no? Plus, there were other people in the car. Jolly was charged because it was his vehicle, doesn’t necessarily mean it was his. That’s what the court case is for.

  36. snoogins says: Jun 2, 2010 2:09 AM

    I know what you mean, but what I am saying is that Pick is not the one gaining here, as he will be on the field regardless(If you disagree I can give you 7 Million reasons why he will be). If/when Jolly is not suspended, Jolly will be playing End and most likely Pick will be back in the middle. Jolly is a machine, at least when he is not slaying dope!
    Just no. Raji has been moved to the permanent NT job because the coaching staff want him there and think he will be better, not because of any of this Jolly business. Starting line will be Jenkins, Raji, Pickett, regardless for downs 1 and 2 and Jolly in Nickel situations instead of Pick.

  37. AutumnWind999 says: Jun 2, 2010 2:29 AM

    Polygraph tests are as useful as tits on a bull.

  38. Love_Boat_Scandal says: Jun 2, 2010 6:05 AM

    @GBPackers
    You made a mistake and called @bluestree out on it and should apologize. As of right now, Pickett is playing DE and Raji is at nose in the base D, as bluestree said.
    If you make another mistake like that again, you’ll have to relinquish your “GBPackers” handle.

  39. packerfanfornot4life says: Jun 2, 2010 7:44 AM

    Actually GBPACKERS Pickett is now the end and raji is the starter at NT.

  40. GBPackers says: Jun 2, 2010 8:13 AM

    # Love_Boat_Scandal says: June 2, 2010 6:05 AM
    @GBPackers
    If you make another mistake like that again, you’ll have to relinquish your “GBPackers” handle.
    ======================================
    And you are who?? Look at what I am saying you ignorant ass. They are not going to pay Pickett 7 million to sit on the bench, regardless of what happens to Jolly!! Raji clearly is the one who would “gain” if Jolly is suspended.

  41. Big Tex says: Jun 2, 2010 8:46 AM

    Why should anyone be surprised that a person who spends a significant amount of time in Wisconsin would drink. Have you ever been to Wisconsin? Don’t know that I ever been anywhere that had as many places selling alcohol. I guess they need an indoor sport for a substantial part of the year.

  42. randyextry says: Jun 2, 2010 2:39 PM

    Polygraphs are completely unreliable. They are worthless. Your article/post should state that. In fact, the headline should read, “Meaningless test produces meaningless result in Jolly situation.” And leave it at that.

  43. Ambrose says: Jun 2, 2010 5:01 PM

    Big Tex says:
    June 2, 2010 8:46 AM
    Don’t know that I ever been anywhere that had as many places selling alcohol.
    ———————————————-
    What a coincidence. I thought the same thing regarding the number of registered sex offenders in Texas!

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