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Roethlisberger returns to Steelers, won't speak to media

Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is on the practice field today at the Steelers’ organized team activities, but we won’t be hearing from him.

A Steelers spokesman said neither Roethlisberger nor Steelers coach Mike Tomlin will talk to reporters after practice.

Footage from this morning that aired on ESPN showed Roethlisberger stretching and chatting with offensive tackle Willie Colon, who was with Roethlisberger on the night in Milledgeville, Georgia, when Roethlisberger was accused of sexual assault.

It’s Roethlisberger’s first appearance at Steelers practice since he was suspended six games for violating the NFL’s personal-conduct policy. Roethlisberger last practiced on April 20, and the next day NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell suspended him and ordered him to stay away from the team until he had undergone a behavioral evaluation.

After today, the Steelers have five more days of OTAs, and Roethlisberger is expected to participate in all of them. He’s also allowed to participate in training camp and the preseason before he serves his suspension at the start of the regular season.

Steelers quarterback Byron Leftwich, who is likely to start at the beginning of the season in Roethlisberger’s absence, is not attending today’s OTAs.

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  1. Krow says: Jun 1, 2010 11:19 AM

    The media wasn’t nice to him … just because he’s a serial rapist. Go figure. But hey, his fanboys still love him.

  2. AllThat says: Jun 1, 2010 11:22 AM

    He can’t speak to the media just like he couldn’t speak to the police in Georgia right?

  3. medic406 says: Jun 1, 2010 11:26 AM

    “won’t speak to media”
    So in order to stay safe, ladies should carry microphones instead of mace from now on?

  4. TheBottomLine says: Jun 1, 2010 11:30 AM

    I wouldn’t talk to the media either if I were him…..this is not news worthy!

  5. Dolphinatic says: Jun 1, 2010 11:35 AM

    Only you can prevent forest fires…measure twice cut once…never bring a knife to a gun fight..No means NO!

  6. tinopuno says: Jun 1, 2010 11:37 AM

    Ben plans to hire Bill Clinton to address any questions from the media regarding his alleged sexual improprieties.

  7. Kaz says: Jun 1, 2010 11:37 AM

    Way to “man up” Big Ben. Does anyone else still think this guy is anything more than a jerk who has been enabled by the organization for all these years. Say what you want about the Bengals players (and all thier “character issues”) but even they’ve all faced the media and taken responsibility for their actions. That to me shows more character than a player and coach hiding like a bunch of spoiled kids. I’m particularly disappointed in Tomlin for being scared to talk to the media. Way to set the example.
    Clearly the Steeler organization is freefalling and I’m willing to bet there will be many teams this season who will give em a good kick while they’re down.

  8. The Real Shuxion says: Jun 1, 2010 11:37 AM

    This is a very important topic and that means I must make an intelligent and noteworthy contribution.
    So here it is:
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    c(“)(“)
    You’re welcome.

  9. badthings says: Jun 1, 2010 11:46 AM

    # TheBottomLine says: June 1, 2010 11:30 AM
    I wouldn’t talk to the media either if I were him…..this is not news worthy!
    ______________________________________
    Well since he is the only known starting quarterback that is a sexual predator, I have to disagree with you, I think it is news worthy!

  10. 420fan says: Jun 1, 2010 11:47 AM

    He won’t speak to the media, but I heard there was some real hotties there……

  11. Dapollock says: Jun 1, 2010 11:51 AM

    What do you expect him to say?
    “Well, it ain’t gonna sukk itself!!”

  12. notoriousbri says: Jun 1, 2010 11:53 AM

    @medic406 HAHAHA that was awesome

  13. Citizen Strange says: Jun 1, 2010 11:54 AM

    Hey …. everybody just needs to BACK OFF.
    Roethlisberger is in the process of getting his act together and turning his life around. Give him a fair chance. If he doesn’t change things for the better THEN you can give him a hard time.
    GO STEELERS!

  14. It puts the lotion on the skin says: Jun 1, 2010 11:58 AM

    Perhaps if the reporters put on a wig, and some lipstick, and waited for him in a bathroom stall, then they would get an interview…..

  15. NFL_1974 says: Jun 1, 2010 12:10 PM

    Funny how some of you guys are EXPECTING Ben to speak to the media and calling him a coward for not doing so. I bet you are the SAME people that thought the media should stay out of Tiger Woods business. Hypocrites.

  16. badthings says: Jun 1, 2010 12:11 PM

    # Citizen Strange says: June 1, 2010 11:54 AM
    Hey …. everybody just needs to BACK OFF.
    Roethlisberger is in the process of getting his act together and turning his life around. Give him a fair chance. If he doesn’t change things for the better THEN you can give him a hard time.
    GO STEELERS!
    ——————————————————
    Ya he hasn’t raped any women in the last week…well that we know of anyway.

  17. CYGNUS X-1 says: Jun 1, 2010 12:14 PM

    what is there to be said that hasn’t been said so far?he was tried and convicted in the media and has been suspended. now he is doing what they said he had to do to play again and unless part of that is answering the same questions over and over again I would not talk to the media either,now or in the future.

  18. EverybodyGotAIDS says: Jun 1, 2010 12:15 PM

    It puts the lotion on the skin says:
    June 1, 2010 11:58 AM
    Perhaps if the reporters put on a wig, and some lipstick, and waited for him in a bathroom stall, then they would get an interview…..
    ________________
    I don’t think “You’re gonna take it whether you like it or not” really constitutes an interview.

  19. RebaT. says: Jun 1, 2010 12:18 PM

    @medic406
    All a woman needs to do with this scumbag is carry around a butcher knife. WHACK! That will end his sexual days!!

  20. RebaT. says: Jun 1, 2010 12:21 PM

    Why wasn’t Leftwich there? What difference does it make? Oh my BEN IS THREATENED!!! LMAO. Wuusy.

  21. bspurloc says: Jun 1, 2010 12:22 PM

    So he fondled the female reporters if he didn’t talk to them?
    Oh yeah in a week we will learned he raped them.

  22. RayLewisKillsPeople says: Jun 1, 2010 12:24 PM

    just think, if he lived in Baltimore..he would have a street named after him…
    star lb…2 murders…1 ring…
    star qb…2 rings..never been proven to have done anything..
    hell Big Ben would get a highway named after him in Baltimore..
    stay classy Baltimore !

  23. tinopuno says: Jun 1, 2010 12:25 PM

    # Citizen Strange says: June 1, 2010 11:54 AM
    Hey …. everybody just needs to BACK OFF.
    Roethlisberger is in the process of getting his act together and turning his life around. Give him a fair chance. If he doesn’t change things for the better THEN you can give him a hard time.
    GO STEELERS!
    —————————————————————-
    Actually, you tool, nobody needs to BACK OFF. Your boy got off very easily. He deserves any grief he gets.
    And just what evidence do you have that’s he’s ‘turning his life around’ ? God, you’re stupid!

  24. JimmySmith says: Jun 1, 2010 12:28 PM

    Was he walking around with his Johnson hanging out of his zipper? Or does he just save that special look for coeds in GA?
    He’s a lowlife rapist but I sure the Rooney’s are real proud right about now.

  25. Deb says: Jun 1, 2010 12:29 PM

    @Kaz …
    Sweetie, Ben came out a few weeks ago (bad haircut, ugly outfit–ring a bell?) and took responsibility for being an ass and embarrassing the team, the Rooneys, the NFL, and the fans. Since he didn’t assault anyone, he won’t be taking responsibility for that. Tomlin has spoken with the media about Ben on several occasions. But now it’s time to move on, so the media will have to find other sources of entertainment. Surely Paris and Britney are up to something.
    As for the rest of your post … you do have a colorful fantasy life! ROFL
    @The Real Shuxion …
    Loved your post. Glad to see you’re taking Florio’s Roethlisberger fetish with the seriousness it deserves ;)

  26. 8man says: Jun 1, 2010 12:29 PM

    Yeah. What’s he going to say. It’s a shame he can’t disappear as well as shut up.
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    c(“)(“)
    Oh! It’s a rabbit. Clever. It is a rabbit, right?

  27. vanhelsing says: Jun 1, 2010 12:33 PM

    but are any reporters going in the bathroom when they know bennie is in there?

  28. The Real Shuxion says: Jun 1, 2010 12:39 PM

    8man says: June 1, 2010 12:29 PM
    Yeah. What’s he going to say. It’s a shame he can’t disappear as well as shut up.
    ——————————————————
    I was gonna quit forever but now I am staying. So everyone who hates my posts can now thank you for making me stay.
    God forbid I don’t call him a rapist or defend him.
    Yes it is a rabbit, you got it. You very smart.

  29. salty says: Jun 1, 2010 12:40 PM

    Throwing Picks, Assaulting Chicks! Get yours now!
    http://boston.3432.voxcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/BigBen2-480×194.jpg
    Too funny… now they need to make a “Taking Sacks; Groping Racks” or “Puttin’ Balls on the Ground; Assaulting some Mound” come on… I’m sure there’s more…

  30. salty says: Jun 1, 2010 12:41 PM

    Throwing Picks, Assaulting Chicks! Get yours now!
    http://boston.3432.voxcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/BigBen2-480×194.jpg
    Too funny… now they need to make a “Taking Sacks; Groping Racks” or “Puttin’ Balls on the Ground; Assaulting some Mound” come on… I’m sure there’s more…

  31. randy33872 says: Jun 1, 2010 12:44 PM

    Man, if this guy played for NewEngland, you steelers fans would be all over him!! So step down from your high horses and admit that he’s a jerk !!

  32. Kaz says: Jun 1, 2010 12:50 PM

    Deb says:
    June 1, 2010 12:29 PM
    @Kaz …
    Sweetie, Ben came out a few weeks ago (bad haircut, ugly outfit–ring a bell?) and took responsibility for being an ass and embarrassing the team, the Rooneys, the NFL, and the fans. Since he didn’t assault anyone, he won’t be taking responsibility for that. Tomlin has spoken with the media about Ben on several occasions. But now it’s time to move on, so the media will have to find other sources of entertainment. Surely Paris and Britney are up to something.
    As for the rest of your post … you do have a colorful fantasy life! ROFL
    ______
    Sugar plump. Was that what you called taking responsibility for his actions? Reading from a peice of paper crumpled up in his pocket, not looking at the camera, and refusing to take questions. Personally, I don’t know why they didn’t make him go through what Tiger (who was never accused of rape) and or Kobe did. But that is an argument for another day. And I’ll maintain my opinion that a man of character faces the fire head on. If your innocent why act guilty? Must have been apart of the pay off…… That’s the only thing that makes sense to me.

  33. Bdrunk says: Jun 1, 2010 12:53 PM

    # EverybodyGotAIDS says: June 1, 2010 12:15 PM
    It puts the lotion on the skin says:
    June 1, 2010 11:58 AM
    Perhaps if the reporters put on a wig, and some lipstick, and waited for him in a bathroom stall, then they would get an interview…..
    ________________
    I don’t think “You’re gonna take it whether you like it or not” really constitutes an interview.
    # badthings says: June 1, 2010 12:11 PM
    # Citizen Strange says: June 1, 2010 11:54 AM
    Hey …. everybody just needs to BACK OFF.
    Roethlisberger is in the process of getting his act together and turning his life around. Give him a fair chance. If he doesn’t change things for the better THEN you can give him a hard time.
    GO STEELERS!
    ——————————————-
    Ya he hasn’t raped any women in the last week…well that we know of anyway.
    ===================
    Just wanted to point out the two posts above. Note the differences between the former and the latter. Everybody Got Aids hits the ball out of the park without so much as a second thought. The funny stuff just rolls off the keyboard with little effort.
    Then there’s badthings. *sigh*
    Would someone please throw him a bone (if he was a gurl then Ben would lol) and just notice him already?

  34. Leroy'sButler says: Jun 1, 2010 12:57 PM

    Favre is a rapist.
    Rothlisberger is a media whore.
    Or is it the other way around.
    Either way I wish they would both go away.

  35. GMan412 says: Jun 1, 2010 12:57 PM

    …as if he has anything to gain talking to the media. Smart move, in my opinion.

  36. Kaz says: Jun 1, 2010 12:58 PM

    NFL_1974 says:
    June 1, 2010 12:10 PM
    Funny how some of you guys are EXPECTING Ben to speak to the media and calling him a coward for not doing so. I bet you are the SAME people that thought the media should stay out of Tiger Woods business. Hypocrites.
    ______
    Who cares what people thought about Tiger, and or Kobe. The media/public wouldn’t let them never speak on it and return like nothing never happened. They were out for blood. They had to go on television and sit and take all the questions and shots about their personal life that was thrown at them. And regardless if I agreed with it. I respect that they did. That’s how you “man up” and take responibility for your actions.
    I would hope if I was ever in that situation (which I won’t. Even living paycheck to paycheck, i still got enough game to not have to rape someone) I would face it like Tiger or Kobe. No better way to move forward and put it past you.

  37. jandrew121 says: Jun 1, 2010 1:02 PM

    Why are you people defending Big Ben. Arod and Tiger were forced to talk to the media, but the media and many sports fans are defending Big Ben. What do you mean this is not news worthy. Give me a break. If a two-time superbowl champion accused of sexual assault twice and supplying drinks to a minor are not news worthy. Than I do not know what is.

  38. bonecity7 says: Jun 1, 2010 1:02 PM

    I knew that there was something familiar regarding Citizen Strange……I’ve finally placed it!!
    He’s the dweeb from You Tube, the “LEAVE BRITTNEY ALONE!!!!!!” guy!!!
    Makes it easier to tolerate his posts now that I know who he is…..and that he’s a little pantywaist!!

  39. edgy1957 says: Jun 1, 2010 1:07 PM

    TMZ hired a lip reader and here’s a transcript of his conversation:
    WC: So, rehab must have been rough, big guy.
    BR: Yeah but you know, it was cool to meet all those sex-addicts. I mean, it was like being in a candy store with all the candy being free and Tiger told me about this place that would help me find women that’ll keep their mouth shut.
    WC: So, you got a little tail?
    BR: Little, I had it morning, noon and night. The only thing I had to do was tell them that I was a movie producer and they had to tell me that they were a 20 year college student.
    WC: Sweet.
    BR: Yes, yes, it was but if anyone asks you, I was miserable all the time.
    WC: You got it, big guy. Oh God, did you fart? You asshole!

  40. PAJoe says: Jun 1, 2010 1:12 PM

    BiG Ben enjoys running around till he can force it in there!! And he does they same when he plays football!!!

  41. lin1945 says: Jun 1, 2010 1:15 PM

    He tells the media “NO” I won’t speak to you so there is no doubt Ben R understands the definition of “no” . . . guess he had a lapse when he most recent victim said “no” . . . but then again, his law enforcement bodyguards weren’t telling him “no” so guess he thought it was go – he should not be on an NFL field until his suspension is served, fully, and the Nevada case is resolved. He got away with sexual assault and every day he is catered to the victim is more victimized. Ben and the off-duty law enforcement bodyguards should all be required to testify, under oath, and then reopen the case. Shame on the Rooney family, the commissioner and the three law enforcement agencies. Boycott the Steelers and anything Ben R.

  42. The Real Shuxion says: Jun 1, 2010 1:16 PM

    The Real Shuxion says: June 1, 2010 12:39 PM
    8man says: June 1, 2010 12:29 PM
    Yeah. What’s he going to say. It’s a shame he can’t disappear as well as shut up.
    ——————————————————
    Wait do you mean Ben, cause if you do then you are a right and I am an idiot who owes you an apology >_

  43. ItalianArmyGuy says: Jun 1, 2010 1:18 PM

    @Shuxion:
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    c(“)(“)
    A rabbit!! Brilliant
    More Byron Leftwich stories, Florio. Why isn’t he in camp? Why do you keep writing so much about the guy who WON’T be playing qb for the Steelers this year?

  44. steelerfan9598 says: Jun 1, 2010 1:18 PM

    “Actually, you tool, nobody needs to BACK OFF. Your boy got off very easily. He deserves any grief he gets.
    And just what evidence do you have that’s he’s ‘turning his life around’ ? God, you’re stupid!”
    He got off ‘easily’ for a crime he wasn’t charged with?
    The same ‘evidence’ you have that he committed a crime.
    You are exhibit A why he will not be talking to the media. Because they, like you, know everything already. No charges, judge or jury required.

  45. badthings says: Jun 1, 2010 1:22 PM

    Oh, what’s wrong bdrunk, are you having a bad day?

  46. Deb says: Jun 1, 2010 2:23 PM

    @Kaz and jandrew121 …
    Reporters can’t “force” celebrities to talk. Tiger CHOSE to give a statement. He’s a businessman. Because his marital issues affected his image, he ELECTED to do damage control.
    NO ONE accused of a crime should talk. If you don’t understand, Google the Riley Fox case. After a brutal 14-hour interrogation, the 3-year-old’s father confessed to her rape/murder and was convicted. HE WAS INNOCENT. DNA later proved the child was murdered by a sex offender.
    The Georgia case is closed. But a civil suit is still pending. Anything Ben says to reporters can be used in the Nevada lawsuit.
    Tiger doesn’t have Ben’s legal issues but does have $billions$ of endorsement reasons for wanting to rehab his image. Ben’s priorities are different: Put these accusations behind him, keep a low profile so his suspension will be lifted at four games, win the Nevada civil suit. Then he probably will schedule an interview–carefully managed like Tiger’s.
    Besides, what do you want him to say? He didn’t do it? He’s said that. The evidence says that. Georgia accused him of vaginal rape. The medical exam refuted the accusation, witnesses refuted the stories about the bodyguard, the DA said both were to blame for creating a big mess. You didn’t believe the medical exam, the witnesses, or the DA. Nothing Ben says to reporters would make any difference to you clowns.

  47. Deb says: Jun 1, 2010 2:29 PM

    @edgy1957 …
    At least you’re no longer pretending your antagonism for Roetholisberger is a righteous crusade for rape victims. It’s just the same ol’ trash talk the other kids in the sandbox are throwing.

  48. philcommander says: Jun 1, 2010 3:31 PM

    To be honest there really is nothing that he could say that would ever make him a decent guy in most peoples opinion.
    He is taking the advice that I would give him if he asked for it…”Ben, Just shut the F up ok?”

  49. badthings says: Jun 1, 2010 3:32 PM

    Deb says: June 1, 2010 2:23 PM
    @Kaz and jandrew121 …
    Reporters can’t “force” celebrities to talk. Tiger CHOSE to give a statement. He’s a businessman. Because his marital issues affected his image, he ELECTED to do damage control.
    NO ONE accused of a crime should talk. If you don’t understand, Google the Riley Fox case. After a brutal 14-hour interrogation, the 3-year-old’s father confessed to her rape/murder and was convicted. HE WAS INNOCENT. DNA later proved the child was murdered by a sex offender.
    ___________________________________
    Deb I am pretty sure the police would have let Ben’s lawyer be present so that they wouldn’t be able to conduct “a brutal 14-hour interrogation.”
    Give me a break.

  50. edgy1957 says: Jun 1, 2010 3:44 PM

    Deb says:
    *********************
    You’re completely wrong. It had to be said because Ben isn’t man enough to talk to the press. He obviously can’t trust himself to say the right things without having a lawyer type up a statement (which he doesn’t mean, anyway).
    As I’ve said before: Ben lacks the common sense that God gave the common flea (and the common decency to treat women like they were his mom). I’ve never said anything about his talent but that he’s got the brains of Forrest Gump and while “Stupid is, as stupid does” gets paid to be the (guffaw) leader of the Steelers, he doesn’t seem to about the well being of the coaches, the 52 other players AND $1 BILLION franchise that has given him the keys to their car and money vault.
    If Ben would have MANNED UP instead of, in the words of Mike & Mike, WOMANED DOWN, NO ONE here would have said a word. Hell, it’s because he didn’t that this whole article is here, in the first place.

  51. Deb says: Jun 1, 2010 5:17 PM

    @badthings and edgy1957 …
    badthings, I wasn’t comparing the two cases, but simply answering naive commenters who continue to believe that if you’re innocent, there’s no reason not to talk to the authorities.
    As for whether Ben should have spoken to the GBI detectives, you’re assuming the cops told Garland up front the accusation was vaginal rape. That’s not necessarily true. The incident report said “sexual manipulation”–which has no specific legal definition. The police don’t always tell the accused or his attorney exactly what’s being alleged.
    So let’s say there was consensual groping. Ben knows he didn’t do anything wrong, so Garland advises him to give a statement to that effect.
    But what if the accusation had been assault–groping–rather than rape?
    Even if he’s innocent of wrongdoing and there’s no evidence any groping occurred, Ben has just admitted that it did. So now this thing is going forward and it’s his word against hers. Right now there’s a stack of evidence, including medical evidence, supporting him and you don’t believe him. You think you’d believe him if it were just his word against hers that whatever happened was consensual??
    That’s why you keep your mouth shut, badthings.
    And if you ran this by experienced criminal defense attorneys (like I did) instead of whiny fans, bloggers, reporters, and Mike & Mike (oh yes, THE braintrust of criminal justice), you’d find the vast majority would have advised him to keep his mouth shut. And civil attorneys would advise him to continue keeping his mouth shut while the Nevada suit is pending.
    This is the grown-up real world, boys, not the pretend world where John Wayne mans up, declares his innocence, the townspeople cheer, and he rides off into the sunset.
    edgy, Ben has been an idiot about many things, but keeping his mouth shut isn’t one of them. He’s acting in his own best legal interest, but he’s also acting in the best interest of the team–keeping himself out of trouble so he can come back and do his job as soon as possible AND staying out of the public eye. And your previous sandbox post spoke for itself–so spare me the shift back to righteous indignation and concern for women.

  52. badthings says: Jun 1, 2010 5:40 PM

    Deb
    And if you ran this by experienced criminal defense attorneys (like I did)
    ______________________________________
    Ya Deb you’re not obsessed with Ben, I am sure you are very objective on this subject………….

  53. badthings says: Jun 1, 2010 5:53 PM

    Deb
    That’s why you keep your mouth shut, badthings
    ______________________________________
    Another reason to keep your mouth shut would be if you were guilty.

  54. NFLchick says: Jun 1, 2010 6:38 PM

    @ deb – ever wonder, in your defense of Rapistberger, why he seems to be the only target in the NFL for these kinds of repeated accusations? That’s 3 in a year, sweets. You really think it’s all just smoke and there’s no fire? Willing to be left alone, drunk, with Rapistberger to prove your point?

  55. edgy1957 says: Jun 1, 2010 7:20 PM

    Deb, it’s too bad that you don’t have much of a sense of humor when it comes to Big Ben and his inability to keep Little Ben in line. Ben could have been boy enough to take questions and say “No comment” but he didn’t even have much in the way of testicles (They should test him for hCG because he may be ovulating this week).
    Oh and I can still be SINCERE about RAPE and say something about Big Ben and — gasp — not being doing it because I hate Ben Gump for anything other than his stupidity. Michael Irvin made it to the HOF and led the Cowboys to 3 championships and yet, I’ve given him more shit than Ben will ever get from me. Even when he was INNOCENT of what they said about him, I still ragged on him for putting himself in that position. That’s something that you seem to not have a grasp on. If you’d spent more time being honest about Ben and his problem and not trying to defend him, you wouldn’t take 1/1000 of the crap that you’ve taken from everyone else.

  56. Deb says: Jun 1, 2010 7:44 PM

    @badthings ….
    You’re right, I’m not objective. I’m a rape survivor and obsessively researched these cases because I needed to know if my team’s QB was a rapist. Fortunately, I’m a writer/researcher who’s covered criminal proceedings and am experienced writing on legal and medical issues. Plus I have a lot of resources to tap for info–criminal defense attorneys, cops, medical professionals, trauma specialists. And I know dozens of rape survivors and have spent years studying assault-related behavioral issues. So I know how to examine evidence and wouldn’t say the guy is innocent unless I was pretty damn sure, moron. Being a football fan doesn’t trump being raped. If he were guilty, I’d want him OFF MY TEAM.
    You, on the other hand, are a Seattle fan who doesn’t even comment on his own team. You just constantly post on Steelers threads about “the rapist” with no evidence to back you up. So who’s objective?
    Baby, you can whine all you want. But the evidence will still support Roethlisberger’s innocence … and the final score of SBXL will still be 21-10 Steelers.

  57. badthings says: Jun 1, 2010 8:12 PM

    # NFLchick says: June 1, 2010 6:38 PM
    @ deb – ever wonder, in your defense of Rapistberger, why he seems to be the only target in the NFL for these kinds of repeated accusations? That’s 3 in a year, sweets. You really think it’s all just smoke and there’s no fire? Willing to be left alone, drunk, with Rapistberger to prove your point?
    ____________________________________
    Deb, NFLchick asks a very good question, care to answer?
    Also, who said I was a Seahawk fan?

  58. holland75 says: Jun 1, 2010 8:16 PM

    Uhmm, did any of you ever consider that among the millions of dollars and liability here maybe they have been restricted from media comments by their LAWYERS? Or that maybe the Organization has asked them not to comment as to not distract from practicing football? This isn’t your local peewee league, you cannot just comment to the media of your own free will, regardless of which team in the NFL you play for.

  59. Deb says: Jun 1, 2010 8:48 PM

    @badthings …
    I’ll answer NFLchick. I’m trying to work. You’ll just have to wait a minute.
    As for the Seattle thing … like I said, I do my research.
    @edgy1957 …
    If I spent more time being honest? That’s not the problem and you know it. I’ve ripped Ben up one side and down the other about what he has done–most of which I didn’t know about until this Georgia story. He doesn’t exactly top my hit parade right now. But he hasn’t raped anyone, and given my own experience, I have a much bigger problem with stupid twit women who accuse innocent men of rape even if the men are the world’s biggest jackasses.
    You couldn’t relate to what I feel toward these bimbos and how hard it is to take hearing them being painted as poor damsels in distress, so why try to explain it? That’s a much bigger motivator than defending Roethlisberger. But I’ve also known men who were wrongfully convicted and imprisoned. So yeah, knowing he’s been falsely accused of a heinous crime makes him a more sympathetic figure to me than he would have been if I’d learned of all his antics separate from the rape accusations.
    But given how many times I’ve called him an irresponsible, selfish, egomaniacal, jackass who deserved his suspension, you can’t say I haven’t been “honest” about Ben. The guy didn’t rape anyone. What do you want from me? I’m not going to turn off my brain and pretend the evidence isn’t what it is. And I’m sure as heck not giving a pass to women who lie about rape. Forget my experience. I wouldn’t betray all the other real victims I’ve known by treating them with that kind of dignity.
    I have a sense of humor, edgy. But I don’t find rape any more amusing than you find spouse abuse. And I don’t mind taking crap for telling the truth and standing up for what I believe is right. Been taking crap for that all my life. But nothing I’ve said or done excuses the below-the-belt punches you threw at me a few weeks ago … and you know it.

  60. Deb says: Jun 1, 2010 9:15 PM

    @holland75 …
    No, they didn’t consider it. How did a smart guy like you get in here? :)
    @NFLchick …
    Actually, sweets, criminal cases are a little more complicated than homespun sayings. And smoke can also mean smoke bombs, smoke machines, dry ice …
    Nevada woman has sex w/Ben. A year later, she’s amassed medical debt over another affair. She files $3 million suit alleging rape. Defense has texts from her to others sent AFTER the “rape” saying she wants to see Ben again. Smoke, not fire.
    Georgia woman follows Ben from clubs to club. DA says they’re engaged in mutual sexual conduct. Her friend rags Ben about Nevada accusation; he tosses her from party and Barravecchio won’t readmit her & her pal. Accuser is out of sight only 10 minutes. Later, friends tossed from party drag her to cops, cry rape despite her denials. Next day, they take her to police and she files rape complaint while they accuse Barravecchio of blocking bathroom. Medical evidence disputes rape. Other witnesses dispute Barravecchio story. DA says all parties share blame and he hopes ALL learned their lesson. Smoke, not fire.
    When the Georgia story broke, Boston lawyer playing Big Man mouths off on radio show that he knows of incident similar to Georgia. One problem: At that time, NO details on Georgia have been released. Told to put up or shut up, Mr. 15 Minutes falls over himself retracting. Smoke, not fire.
    And then there’s the other Milledgeville woman. Her story, more than anything else, shows Ben is a jackass, not a predator.
    The other woman was a golf course employee designated to drive drunk Ben home. She said she wanted to leave but he barred the door, dropped his pants, and said “Do what you please.” She was ALONE with a big, intoxicated, sexually aggressive guy and NO WITNESSES. But she didn’t even have to fight him off. She just left. Then despite knowing he was attracted to her and would be drinking, she accepted his invitation to a party at his house. AND she voluntarily accompanied him to his bedroom to, a-hem, see his new bed. Obviously she wasn’t afraid to be alone with him. While they were on the bed, she said he became aggressive and tried to put his hand up her skirt. Once again, she was ALONE with a big, intoxicated, sexually aggressive guy. But she didn’t even have to fight him off. She just left.
    That’s not predatory behavior. Rapists don’t just stop and let you leave.
    To answer your question, NFLchick: Ben is a jerk. He’s not a guy I’d be interested in spending time with. But no, I wouldn’t be afraid to be alone with him, even if he were drunk. Jackasses, I can handle.

  61. steeler560 says: Jun 1, 2010 10:38 PM

    All the Ben bashing is only funny to the haters until he scorches your team for 3-4 TD passes in 2010…then what are ya gonna do?
    He’s going to have his best season thus far as a pro in 2010, go write it down.

  62. badthings says: Jun 1, 2010 11:24 PM

    As for the Seattle thing … like I said, I do my research
    ______________________________________
    Deb, that really sounds a little creepy.

  63. Deb says: Jun 2, 2010 12:34 AM

    @edgy1957
    Uh-huh. I’m sure all that venom was about my long posts to other people. Interesting how you keep telling everyone else to man up and be honest when you can’t manage either. Guess when you keep playing “John Wayne Stands Up for Fair Womanhood,” it sucks being reminded you’re not John Wayne.
    Trash-talking is one thing, but there are lines good guys don’t cross. A woman saying something unpopular is not license for a man to become verbally abusive … anymore than it’s license for him to become physically abusive. You should know that–just as you know physical and verbal abuse are two sides of the same coin. And since you easily took a vicious verbal punch at a woman but can’t admit it, maybe you should spend more time analyzing your own psyche than Ben’s.

  64. BLeedGreeN4Life says: Jun 2, 2010 12:45 AM

    I think he should away from the media until the season starts at the very earliest. Every statement he makes will end up on here and I’m sure people people really don’t care what he ate for lunch or what kind of socks he is wearing. On the other hand, it would start a feud between big ben and brett favre over more media attention which may be amusing.

  65. Klytus says: Jun 2, 2010 1:18 AM

    I wouldn’t speak to the media either. There’s only one story their interested in. Ben’s got to make some changes and that doesn’t happen overnight. So until he gets his footing in his new life then he should just keep to himself. All any player owes is a good football game.
    GO STEELERS!

  66. Deb says: Jun 2, 2010 11:35 AM

    Well, badthings, I found it creepy to have a guy show up out of nowhere to stalk me on EVERY Steelers thread as you’ve been doing for some time. Thought it was time to find out why you have an ax to grind.

  67. badthings says: Jun 2, 2010 12:07 PM

    Deb says: June 2, 2010 11:35 AM
    Well, badthings, I found it creepy to have a guy show up out of nowhere to stalk me on EVERY Steelers thread as you’ve been doing for some time. Thought it was time to find out why you have an ax to grind
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    Disagreeing with someone is not stalking them Deb.
    I have posted on articles about Ben because I think he is a sexual predator, and a dirtbag. I guess it is easier for you to dismiss a person with a different opinion by making up other reasons for their dislike of your precious Ben.
    I do agree with one of your prior posts though, you are obsessed and not objective when it comes to Ben.

  68. edgy1957 says: Jun 2, 2010 12:40 PM

    Deb says:
    it sucks being reminded you’re not John Wayne.
    *************************
    You’re damn right, I’m NOT John Wayne. I was man enough to join the military instead of staying at home and playing like I did.
    You can believe what you want but then again, you’ve shown that you do with each new SCOTUS brief that you present to the court of public opinion any time someone says something about your precious Ben. It’s these long, sad diatribes that have everyone looking at you as some kind of Stockholm Syndrome victim.
    BTW, Perry Mason, what VERBAL punch did I take at a woman? If you mean you then here’s a real punch: LIAR. If you mean anything else then you’re DELIBERATELY twisting something I said about Ben into something about a woman and again: LIAR.

  69. Deb says: Jun 2, 2010 4:53 PM

    My, my … children certainly enjoy rewriting history.
    badthings, you make it sound as though you’ve been posting intelligent commentary on legal issues. Actually, you’ve just posted “stand by your man” and “Deb supports predators” every time you saw my name–even when I wasn’t posting on Roethlisberger. That is stalking. Disagreeing requires intelligent discourse.
    You’ve also obsessively posted smart-ass Ben comments on every Steelers thread–regardless of topic–since this story broke. When fans asked your team, you wouldn’t answer. This has nothing to do with concern for sexual assault issues. Who are you kidding? I doubt you could intelligently discuss a single piece of evidence in either case. This is a whiny Seahawks fan taking shots at the Steelers. At least be man enough to admit it.

  70. badthings says: Jun 2, 2010 5:19 PM

    Deb says: June 2, 2010 4:53 PM
    My, my … children certainly enjoy rewriting history.
    badthings, you make it sound as though you’ve been posting intelligent commentary on legal issues. Actually, you’ve just posted “stand by your man” and “Deb supports predators” every time you saw my name–even when I wasn’t posting on Roethlisberger. That is stalking. Disagreeing requires intelligent discourse.
    You’ve also obsessively posted smart-ass Ben comments on every Steelers thread–regardless of topic–since this story broke. When fans asked your team, you wouldn’t answer. This has nothing to do with concern for sexual assault issues. Who are you kidding? I doubt you could intelligently discuss a single piece of evidence in either case. This is a whiny Seahawks fan taking shots at the Steelers. At least be man enough to admit it
    ____________________________________
    Deb just keep making excuses as to why people are posting things that you don’t like about Ben. Ya it must be because they don’t like the team he plays on, not that he is the ONLY athlete to continually be accused of sexually assaulting women. If by doing that you can justify in your mind that Ben is a stand up guy, then good luck with that.
    Just keep grasping at straws.
    Also, you really don’t need to type a 500 word response, as usual, we get it. You’re obsessed with a person you have never met because he plays quarterback on a football team you root for.

  71. Deb says: Jun 2, 2010 6:26 PM

    @edgy1957 …
    Yep, my Roethlisberger posts are long and repetitive; I’d bet many people skip over them. So you just assume your term papers on multiple topics are must-read PFT?
    Stockholm Syndrome? Great film, “Die Hard.” But since Roethlisberger isn’t a rapist and wasn’t my rapist, I couldn’t develop a victim/abuser bond w/him. Here’s the thing about my long posts: They’re accurate–and my conclusions match those of the investigating authorities.
    I long ago said you were right about Ben: He’s a jerk. Egomaniac, hyper risk-taking, irresponsible. It’s all come out now. But he’s not a predator. It’s not about him being my precious Ben unless a lot of cops, prosecutors, and the NFL’s investigators think he’s precious, too. It’s about evidence, plain and simple.
    Don’t know why you can’t grasp that. Don’t care. You’re not alone in talking smack to me about it. But some people have crossed the line from talking trash to being abusive. You were one of them. Others were much worse, but you claim to be the great defender of women. Maybe you should redefine that: The great defender of women as long as they know their place.
    Scream LIAR all you want, but it is what it is.
    edgy1957 says:
    “Ok, so you say that you’re a rape survivor. Were you a DRUNK rape survivor and if you were, how can anyone take your word that you were ever raped in the first place? Hell, I don’t even think that you were raped and you were just asking for it. I bet you just got pissed because he never called you back and you decided to get him back for hurting you THAT way.”
    Of course, that wasn’t the end of it, but that’s enough. You ridiculing my rape history to make a point crossed the line–and you’d feel the same way if I shredded the personal things you’ve posted recently. But I wouldn’t. And you were doing it again with that “Stockholm Syndrome” comment, but it was too laughable to take seriously.
    What’s so stupid about the whole thing is that you were going ballistic over things I’d NEVER said in the first place and over evidentiary issues you’d never bothered to check out. Maybe if you did some serious research, you would understand why I’m so freakin’ sure Roethlisberger hasn’t raped anyone. But no, it’s just easier to ASSume I’m a blind homer and that the tidbits you’ve picked up here and there are the be-all and end-all. You couldn’t possibly be wrong. Noooo, not you. You know everything.
    Yeah, jackass, you can EMPATHIZE with rape victims. Uh-huh. You know just what they feel and how they’d rush right out and blame the victim to protect the QB. Yep, you’ve got it all figured out.
    God, you are an idiot.

  72. Deb says: Jun 2, 2010 6:40 PM

    @badthings …
    Uh-huh. Just keep making excuses why you troll Steelers threads making obsessive comments about a sexual assault case that has nothing to do with you. If doing that can justify in your mind that you’re a stand-up guy, then good luck with that.
    Just keep grasping at straws.
    Also, you really don’t need to keep repeating yourself. We get it. You’re obsessed with a person you have never met because he quarterbacked the team that beat yours in the Super Bowl.
    21-10

  73. badthings says: Jun 2, 2010 8:16 PM

    Deb that’s just sad. Although I will still be posting, it won’t be to your pathetic attempts to justify a sexual predator.

  74. Deb says: Jun 2, 2010 9:47 PM

    Awww, badthings. I’m crushed.
    If it makes you feel better, you didn’t suddenly slip up. We’ve known all along you weren’t really concerned about predators. All you ever post is “nah nah nah rapist nah nah nah stand by your man.” I finally got around to finding out why.
    Yes, it’s very sad. SBXXX broke my heart. Was going through my second cancer battle and that SB run gave me reason to get up in the morning. But just because we lost, I don’t yell “nah nah nah rapist” at Cowboys fans about Irvin’s multiple accusations. I’m adult enough to know rape isn’t a joke … and woman enough to take disappointment like a grownup.

  75. Bed says: Jun 2, 2010 11:38 PM

    Yes Badthings, I’ve had cancer 4 times, been raped 2, worked for the justice dept, was in the bathroom, and successfully ran for the President of the United States.
    And I know Big Ben is innocent!!!!!!

  76. badthings says: Jun 3, 2010 9:21 AM

    Bed you too?

  77. badthings says: Jun 3, 2010 1:16 PM

    Oh jeez, here we go again……….

  78. Deb says: Jun 3, 2010 2:29 PM

    Yep, badthings, he’s your soulmate. Bet you’d make a lovely couple. You could tour comedy clubs doing rape humor.
    Gee, Bed, I’ve never had anyone be jealous of my cancer battles and my rape experience. Is that anything like penis envy?

  79. badthings says: Jun 3, 2010 2:57 PM

    What did I tell ya………

  80. Deb says: Jun 3, 2010 4:35 PM

    Careful what you wish for …

  81. badthings says: Jun 3, 2010 5:21 PM

    yawn……………….

  82. AllThat says: Jun 4, 2010 10:26 AM

    can deb and bad things just give your email addy’s to each other and quit this nonsnense. This is a football site….I think…..nah nevermind….

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