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Browns could start three rookies in the secondary

The Cleveland Browns drafted cornerback Joe Haden seventh overall with the idea that he could start as a rookie. But Haden might not be the only rookie starting in the Browns’ secondary.

In fact, three-fourths of the Browns’ starting secondary could be rookies.

Browns coach Eric Mangini says he’s open to starting two rookie safeties in T.J. Ward and Larry Asante.

“If they’re the best guys, you may take some lumps early because they are rookies, but typically those guys continue to move up and excel,” Mangini said, per Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

The Browns surprised some people when they chose Ward with the sixth pick in the second round of the draft even though quarterbacks Jimmy Clausen and Colt McCoy (whom the Browns would end up taking in the third round) were still available. So Cleveland obviously thinks highly of him.

Asante, a strong safety from Nebraska, was chosen late in the fifth round and would seem to be a long shot to start as a rookie. But he was a three-year starter in college, and Mangini apparently likes what he’s seen from Asante so far.

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  1. Levito says: Jun 4, 2010 8:42 AM

    sounds like a recipe for a 2-14 season. Nice job Mangini.

  2. ppdoc13 says: Jun 4, 2010 8:42 AM

    4-12

  3. It puts the lotion on the skin says: Jun 4, 2010 8:47 AM

    That is quite a slap in the face for the guys that started last year, to think that 3 rookies could start in the secondary, and the Browns D will improved….LMFAO. How much of an improvement remains to be seen…

  4. Evil Dead says: Jun 4, 2010 8:53 AM

    Translation: “Our team sucked last year…these guys can’t possibly be worse than what we had. If they are, I can blame it on them being rookies.”

  5. Poo Flinging Monkey says: Jun 4, 2010 9:01 AM

    With the first pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select…

  6. IrishDawg42 says: Jun 4, 2010 9:18 AM

    What else is he going to say when asked a question from a reporter??
    “…No no, they are rookies and do not have the skills to start in this league. Someday if they practice hard, maybe, but they can’t play this game at this level when they are rookies…”
    Or course not, he does the diplomatic thing and says:
    “If they’re the best guys , you may take some lumps early because they are rookies, but typically those guys continue to move up and excel,” Mangini said

  7. civilwarfish says: Jun 4, 2010 9:21 AM

    Our secondary last year was a sieve. With the exception of Eric Wright it was an embarrassment most of the time. Abe Elam was adequate, but in the elevated level of the NFL adequate sometimes leaves you hanging. In the AFC North, where you have quarterbacks like Worthlessberger, Palmer and Flacco and recievers like Ward, Ochocinco and Boldin to contend with…you MUST have quality in the secondary.
    Sheldon Brown’s prresence makes Eric Wright work that much harder at corner…Brandon McDonald might want to stop downtown here in Cleveland to the Q and check out the place the Arena League Gladiators play….
    If they are able…let the rookies play. We Cleveland fans who understand what is trying to be done know that this year isnt gonna be the year. It will however present some pleasant surprises I think…and another year or two of improvements and strategic player movement and I believe the Browns will be back.

  8. godofwine says: Jun 4, 2010 9:23 AM

    Our team sucked donkey balls last year. I don’t care who starts as long as there is improvements. And, if there are no improvements, I am looking forward to the Browns getting Chucky next year and being rid of the Man-Idiot. “Never liked that guy”-Silvio Dante.

  9. Hap says: Jun 4, 2010 9:36 AM

    I hope we play them.
    Can you say “pad the stats”?

  10. ArtModellsPimp says: Jun 4, 2010 9:36 AM

    Sounds OK to me!
    If these rookies are an improvement on the group that bitch-slapped Rapistberger and his lackeys last year, it’s all good.
    And, if the Baltimorons and Ben-gals decide to look past the Brownies, and disrespect them the same way that some of their fans on this blog do… they just may get some of the same treatment.
    The Cleveland Browns are coming to PLAY, baby……!!!!

  11. rea725 says: Jun 4, 2010 9:42 AM

    13-3. Superbowl.
    LOL. Awake now. 7-9. Gruden speculation starts around Thanksgiving.

  12. vanhelsing says: Jun 4, 2010 9:58 AM

    except by the time they are solid and mature… mange will be elsewhere…
    “… and with the browns falling behind so far early due to all those td passes… mangini has shelved the wildcat offense and thrown all in with jake…”

  13. Kaz says: Jun 4, 2010 10:13 AM

    Great news for Palmer, Flacco, and Big Ben….

  14. spartyfi says: Jun 4, 2010 10:26 AM

    the Browns will be back??? When were they ever “there”????

  15. civilwarfish says: Jun 4, 2010 10:38 AM

    the Browns will be back??? When were they ever “there”????
    *********************************************
    8 league championships. 4 after they joined the NFL. First undefeated season by a professional Football Team. One of the most dominant teams ever to take the field.
    Its been a long time, but the Browns were once the standard others were judged by.
    They will be again.

  16. Maddog says: Jun 4, 2010 10:43 AM

    rea725 says:
    June 4, 2010 9:42 AM
    13-3. Superbowl.
    LOL. Awake now. 7-9. Gruden speculation starts around Thanksgiving.
    ———————————————–
    If Holmgren wanted Gruden he’d have fired Mangini this offseason. Holmgren is not done coaching. He’ll fire Mangini after the upcoming season and take over as coach himself. Say what you want about his lack of success as a GM, but the man can definitely coach.

  17. Remakebythelake says: Jun 4, 2010 10:55 AM

    lets not forget that Brodney Pool and our WR (playing in the secondary) Furrey are gone

  18. buckifan4life says: Jun 4, 2010 11:02 AM

    The endless rebuilding escapade continues…
    At least in football a small market team has a chance, but not ifd you have to give up HUGE $ for the top 2 picks in the draft every few years.
    Sad.

  19. Evil Dead says: Jun 4, 2010 11:26 AM

    Maddog says:
    June 4, 2010 10:43 AM
    rea725 says:
    June 4, 2010 9:42 AM
    13-3. Superbowl.
    LOL. Awake now. 7-9. Gruden speculation starts around Thanksgiving.
    ———————————————–
    If Holmgren wanted Gruden he’d have fired Mangini this offseason. Holmgren is not done coaching. He’ll fire Mangini after the upcoming season and take over as coach himself. Say what you want about his lack of success as a GM, but the man can definitely coach.
    ————————————————
    Maddog, Gruden wasn’t going to coach this year becuase he is still being paid millions by the Bucs to NOT coach for any other team….just like the Browns are still paying Crennel to not coach.
    Holmgren is in a no lose situation by keeping Mangini for another year. The team started winning at the end of the season, so you can keep that momentum. If it pans out, Holmgren is a genius. If Mangini flops, Holmgren can fire him and blame everything on him. Then, Holmgren, Cowher, or Gruden can coach and Holmgren will still be the genius for another year.

  20. sguy2130 says: Jun 4, 2010 11:56 AM

    It puts the lotion on the skin says:
    June 4, 2010 8:47 AM
    That is quite a slap in the face for the guys that started last year, to think that 3 rookies could start in the secondary, and the Browns D will improved….LMFAO. How much of an improvement remains to be seen…
    ———————————-
    Well Brodney Pool is gone, Elam is average, Brandon McDonald is not a #2 CB, so anything they put on the field this year, rookies or not is better. Sheldon Brown who they traded for also may be a starter. Mangini just likes competition, so no reason to read into what he says.

  21. eanumber6 says: Jun 4, 2010 12:13 PM

    i think with the three rookies and sheldon brown.also with eric wright in on nickel the browns would be alot better than last year. althought thye are rookies these guys have the talent to play alot for the browns.. i hope it goes well for us.

  22. SixburghSteelers says: Jun 4, 2010 12:21 PM

    The 49ers once started two rookie corners….Eric Wright and anybody remember Ronnie Lott????
    Just Sayin’…

  23. habibfromnewdehli says: Jun 4, 2010 12:25 PM

    As a Ravens fan, I would LOVE if the Browns let go of Brandon McDonald and the Ravens were able to pick him up.
    Yeah, I know he’s got burned on more than one occasion, but I’ve seen enough of him to know he’s got more potential and athletic ability than Chris Carr and Frank Walker… and probably Dominique Foxworth as well.

  24. tickintimebomb says: Jun 4, 2010 1:50 PM

    Eric Wright is a top cover corner in this league. Sheldon Brown is a vet that is a complete corner (can cover and fill). Add Haden and you still have McDonald as a veteran that has started a lot of ball games and the corners are solid.
    The safeties may take time with Elam (a solid vet) and Ward and Assante but they all lay the wood so I’m looking forward to the future intimidation factor they’ll bring.

  25. dawg_on_a_chain says: Jun 4, 2010 1:54 PM

    First of all, Palmer doesn’t scare any secondary these days. He has to wind up to throw the ball hard further than 5 yards. He is cooked.
    Second of all, the fat rapist in Pittsburgh did not have anough time to scorch our secondary last time we met because our front 7 was raping him (shoe doesn’t feel so good on the other foot does it you fat loser?)
    Third of all, is it really that difficult to imagine that three rookies are better than Mike Furrey, Abram Elam and Brandon McDonald???? I find that very believable.

  26. DB26 says: Jun 4, 2010 2:56 PM

    Lets hit some things in order:
    1) Pittsburgh has had Polomalu in their secondary the past 6 years or so and that is it. Everything else is street free agents or rookies. 2 Superbowls? Anyways, 3 rookies aren’t starting anyway unless they just flat out light shit up. Most likely scenario is going to be FS Sheldon Brown, SS TJ Ward/Abe Elam, CB1 Wright, CB2 Haden, Adams as the nickel and McDonald or Franceis as the dime.
    2) Lets look at the Browns upgrades:
    RT Pashos over St Clair? Check
    RG Lauvao over Porkchop? Check
    QB Delhomme over Quinn/DA? Check
    RB Add Hardesty & Hillis to Harrison? Check
    WR Needs upgrade. Look for Browns to make a move
    DL LDE Coleman, NT Rubin, RDE Rogers? Check
    LB Add Gocong and Fujita to a already talented group that played extremely well under Mangini and Ryan in 2009? CHECK
    Special teams is still beast
    All that equals a better team. Lets see what the results show in 2010.
    3) If you are going to link a HC w/ Cleveland if Mangini is sent packing, look no further than Andy Reid. Still no contract extension, had his power pulled from him this season. Most are of the opinion that Reid would like to be reunited under Holmgren and working with T. Heckert!

  27. ZI11 says: Jun 4, 2010 3:23 PM

    first of all im a browns fan but eric wright is not a top corner in the league. Just look what adrian peterson did to him in week one….hes good not great.

  28. GoBrowns19 says: Jun 4, 2010 6:16 PM

    Hey fat Steeler fans…lemme give you some ammo. HEY STAINS SUCK LOL STAINS BROWNSTAINS HAHA LOL.
    MANGIDIOT IS A RETARD LOL!
    LOLBIGBEN IS GONG TOO EAT THEM ALOVE LOL HAHA HEE HEE.
    ME THINKS DA BROWNSTAINS STHBINK
    WHERE BE MY CHEESEBURGER STAINS SUCKS LOL
    MY WIFE IS FAT BROWNSTAINS.
    STAINS LOL

  29. kelevra says: Jun 4, 2010 7:08 PM

    “Gruden wasn’t going to coach this year becuase he is still being paid millions by the Bucs to NOT coach for any other team….just like the Browns are still paying Crennel to not coach. ”
    First, as a Browns fan, I don’t know how anyone can see what Gruden did to his players in Tampa, (a team he had absolutely nothing to do with building in terms of success and most everything to do with in terms of its failure) and the constant QB gorging, and still want him as a coach…put me in the “ney” circle.
    Second, RAC is coaching, he’s the KC Chiefs defensive coordinator. He didn’t the year prior cuz of hip surgery and yes, probably because he was getting paid.
    Third, Holmgren is by no stretch of the imagination ever on this planet going to be VP and head coach, that is ENTIRELY too much on his plate. I’d like to think that he learned from his previous mistake as GM/HC in Seattle. He’s a pretty smart guy.
    Fourth, if Mangini puts together a 7-9 record, or even better, a winning season/playoff run this coming year…big if I know, but if he does…what’s everyone’s excuse for still claiming he sucks?
    Onto the secondary, I think it’s pretty clear when you’re playing a WR in the secondary, there’s a good chance that rookie can start in the coming season. And if Haden is starting, I’m kinda wondering if Shepard is gonna be cool as a nickel because it has been said numerous times he ISN’T playing safety.

  30. BigDaaDee says: Jun 5, 2010 1:17 PM

    Man you cats sound like a bunch of little bitches. You do realize that Elam is not at OTA’s right? If you’re really a Brown’s fan you realize Elam was the starter last year! You do realize coaches send messages through the media right? So Mangini stating that 3 rookies could start is simply to light fires under the asses of the Vets and the holdouts. Seemed to work to get Harrison in camp didn’t it.
    So like most bitches go get some cheese to go with that wine and let the real men that are real fans make comments. Little Bitches!

  31. El Perro says: Jun 5, 2010 7:15 PM

    I’d hate to be a turd fan.. Well, looks like it’s bottom of the barrell time again!!

  32. civilwarfish says: Jun 5, 2010 7:59 PM

    I’d hate to be a turd fan..
    ———————————————————-
    Me too! Fortunately I am a Browns fan and we are looking up!
    Those turds are frustrating though…even now when they are winning and threatening a playoff run…they just stink the place up.
    Glad I dont love there!
    Its funny…someone mentioned earlier how Browns threads seem to draw peckerhead posters like a magnet. They keep lookin and laughin and they wont miss it when we rise and smite them.

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