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Shiancoe: "Everybody knows" exceptions are made for Favre

Vikings coach Brad Childress sounded peeved this week when discussing the absence of running back Adrian Peterson from minicamp. But Childress is the same coach who was fine with Brett Favre waiting until mid-August to join the Vikings last year, and is fine with Favre doing it again this year.

So why the double standard?

Vikings tight end Visanthe Shiancoe says it’s quite simple: There are rules, and then there are exceptions to the rules, and everyone understands that Favre getting to report to the team when he feels like it is one of the exceptions.

“Of course, there are going to be exceptions for him. Everybody knows that,” Shiancoe said. “It’s Brett Favre. He’s earned the right and everybody else feels the same way, especially after the season he had last year with the interception ratio compared to the completion ratio. I wish I could play like that when I’m 40 years old, 41 years old. He’s still running around like he’s 28, 27. It’s all love for him. We accept him back when he comes back.”

Obviously, Shiancoe is right: Favre is the one player in the entire league who’s permitted to do whatever he wants during the offseason. And the Vikings will accept him as soon as he decides to come back.

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  1. TheDPR says: Jun 12, 2010 1:54 PM

    Shiancoe is right but the Favre situation is not. The guy hasn’t earned squat in well over a decade. Excellent regular season QB who routinely ends the year with a crucial game-losing INT.

  2. dwatkins says: Jun 12, 2010 1:57 PM

    And that is why they wont win shiate

  3. Occam says: Jun 12, 2010 1:57 PM

    PFT = Plentiful Favre Talk.

  4. SKINSFANTOM says: Jun 12, 2010 2:04 PM

    pure racism dammit. cant you people see? for the love of god!!HAIL

  5. Ghost Peppers says: Jun 12, 2010 2:04 PM

    This is what you get when you sign the enemy to your team. Signing Brett Favre is sacrilege and you should be ashamed for yourselves for signing this D-bag. This is called Karma. I hope the Bears and the Packers ruin every chance you get to get to the Superbowl next year. And I hope you get swept by the Lions too. When rumors that Brett Farve was leaving the Packers a couple years ago, the Bears came out on record and said there is NO CHANCE that homo signs with us. Ziggy jumped all over the chance because he is a greedy $#% and now your franchise is DOOMED!! Slap yourselves Vikings fans, as long as you have Favre, you are jinxed!

  6. philwauke says: Jun 12, 2010 2:04 PM

    Vikings suck.

  7. AllDayAP says: Jun 12, 2010 2:05 PM

    Simple. Favre has accomplished a hell of a lot more than AP has. Why are people even comparing them together? One is a Super Bowl winning QB and just put up ridiculous stats, the other is a very good RB with FUMBLING ISSUES that wants to be at his own parade rather than with the team to work on THOSE ISSUES.
    Yeah I can see the comparison there.

  8. gazretired says: Jun 12, 2010 2:07 PM

    The Vikings will pay in the end for allowing a double standard.

  9. purpleguy says: Jun 12, 2010 2:09 PM

    It may suck, but we’ll put up with it if it doesn’t bug the players and we make it to the NFC Championship game again. Every team has double standards for its superstars, Lord Favre’s is just publicized more.

  10. CheeseAttack says: Jun 12, 2010 2:09 PM

    Brett sucks. He was a great Packer but when he left and joined the Vikings I decided he now sucks and the Vikings suck too because Brett sucks. They think they can actually win games with him? The gall! F them and their fans too. I’m still so sick of hearing about all of it that I’m going to on every Viking post on PFT and tell everyone how much Brett and the Vikings now suck for it all. I just hope they get to the Super Bowl this year and lose. It would be the best season ever. Even better than last season! Me and my friends will get to jump up from the couch and pump our fists and hoot and holler at the TV ‘I told ya so!’ again!
    Go PACK!

  11. JimmySmith says: Jun 12, 2010 2:10 PM

    Like they have a choice in the matter? It is well known that one of the biggest reasons Favre picked the Vikings is that he knew that he could run the team. It’s not like Col Klink has the balls to say “Boo” to BrINT.
    Let me count the ways, in the first Packer Viking game, Klink, who would never be confused with real Offensive Coordinator, called a run play late in the game and BrINT decided to try to pad his stats by changing that to a pass play (incompleted pass) and thus saved the Packers 45 seconds and that decision nearly cost the Vikes the game. Klink’s response, nothing.
    Favre getting killed in the Carolina game and decides to take Favre out to save him for another day and Favre not only refuses but tells Klink to shove it sideways. Klink ‘s response, nothing.
    Then in the Dallas playoff game, late in the game the outcome is not in doubt, the Vikings have the ball and BrINT really wants to run up the score and throws a meaningless touchdown pass against Klink’s better judgment. Klink’s response, you guessed it by now, nothing.
    That not only pissed off some members of the Cowboys but the football gods themselves were not amused. Karma reared its ugly head the following week where the Vikings out gained the Saints by over 200 yards, time of possession was 2 to 1 and the Vikings still lost. Cosmetic justice might be delayed but it is never denied.
    As for Favre, he’s all yours, enjoy your schism while it lasts.

  12. aec4 says: Jun 12, 2010 2:18 PM

    We started a new stat.. INT / Completion Ratio!

  13. bbeer says: Jun 12, 2010 2:19 PM

    came here today, hungover, looking for something to feel better. I see at least two vikings articles in 0.2 seconds. I almost puked, thanks guys.

  14. Cincinnasty says: Jun 12, 2010 2:20 PM

    That’s a bunch of BULL! Favre should at least have a excuse like a reality show or something..

  15. DailyNorseman says: Jun 12, 2010 2:21 PM

    Wow. . .somebody actually asked one of Favre’s teammates what they think about the situation rather than writing some dumb-ass story about how Favre is a cancer and causing a “schism” in the locker room?
    I, for one, am totally shocked by this development.

  16. tinopuno says: Jun 12, 2010 2:24 PM

    If it’s true that none of the other Viking player object to the VERY special ‘Favre Rules’, than they are indeed a pathetic bunch of sheep. My guess is Asskiss Shiancoe is among the vocal minority.
    And Chilldress is nothing more than a pathetic joke.

  17. BlondBlueDevils says: Jun 12, 2010 2:24 PM

    That’s why they won’t win a championship.
    Quarterbacks are not bigger than the game.
    Players like Adrian Peterson don’t come everyday, but he has himself to blame, the way he went out of his way, texting and begging Favre to come out of retirement last season, while not showing any compassion or respect for Tavaris Jackson, who was the current starter of the team.
    I guess A.P. is finding out “what comes around goes around”.

  18. TheBeave says: Jun 12, 2010 2:26 PM

    Except the coach and owner pretend it isn’t true. If they just came out and were honest about it nobody would care, but instead Childress tries to pretend it isn’t, and the end result is that he’s been emasculated. Childress comes out of this entire Favre situation looking spineless. It’s like an NBA coach who has to be deferential to anyone on his team making more than $15M/yr. I can’t recall any other NFL head coach who’s allowed himself to be put in this situation.

  19. Green n' Gold says: Jun 12, 2010 2:30 PM

    Brett Favre is best at two things, choking away playoff games and dividing locker rooms.
    It’s already starting, honeymoon is over Chilly. LMFAO!!

  20. LPH says: Jun 12, 2010 2:34 PM

    Stating the obvious and making it right are two different things. Of course the Vikings let Favre slide and of course it’s wrong. What makes Favre different from anyone else? Should Brady walk in after training camp? Peyton Manning? Problem is, Favre may help the team when he decides to show up, but in the end Favre is first, foremost and always about Brett Favre. There will come a day when he decides NOT to show up, and the Vikings will be left at the altar. Brad Childress brought this upon himself and the team, and the Viking fans, players and entire organization are a bunch of enablers. They deserve what they will assuredly get from Favre in the long run, which is nothing but embarrassment and humiliation. Keep Childress away from Foxboro, please.

  21. Calistin says: Jun 12, 2010 2:36 PM

    What’s earned him the right? 1 superbowl victory over 10 years ago? The record for career ints?
    Or is the NFC championship int’s he keeps chucking up?
    Feeding the ego is all this is doing. Why is this 1 player “above” everyone else. He hasn’t earned shit except a bad reputation as far as I’m concerned.

  22. stan26 says: Jun 12, 2010 2:43 PM

    What other player also has his own locker room?

  23. hotep999 says: Jun 12, 2010 2:47 PM

    Misleading thread topic
    If you want to quote part of his statement, “He’s earned the right” is far more accurate.
    *Just my opinion.

  24. MrHumble says: Jun 12, 2010 2:48 PM

    It’s clear the vikings as a team have no problem with it, their fans have no problem with it and obviously their headcoach has no problem with it…..so why then does the media keep trying to stir the pot (to sell advertising, generate posts etc.) and the foolish fans (Packer fans in particular I think we would all agree on) keep getting sucked in by the media. I’ve always said 7 out of 10 people are idiots and it’s obvious that PFT has figured that out too, LMAO

  25. Johnnyb612 says: Jun 12, 2010 2:54 PM

    I have to say, I didn’t approve of brett coming in late last season with him being on a new team and all. But after the year he had last year, I can’t really find a reason to argue with him. Just let him do whatever he wants if it keeps him happy. I’m sure he knows he’s setting himself up for a lot of criticism if he doesn’t perform this year.

  26. mattgso says: Jun 12, 2010 2:56 PM

    “Favre is the one player in the entire league who’s permitted to do whatever he wants during the offseason. ”
    And that’s why he chokes in the playoffs. What you do at practice is what you do in the game.
    Mentally check out of practices… or in BrINT’s case, not show at all… and you mentally check out during the game.

  27. footballrulz says: Jun 12, 2010 2:57 PM

    Favre is the one player in the entire league who’s permitted to do whatever he wants during the offseason. And the Vikings will accept him as soon as he decides to come back.
    ___________________________________
    And if there is one player in the league that Deserves that exception, it’s Favre. Look at the season he had last year. Look at the absolute beat down he took in the NFCCG — I can think of few other QB’s that would have completed that game. Considering what he did for the Vikes last year I certainly cannot blame them for the stance they are taking. Yes, it may be short term but he’s the best chance they have at a SB –THIS YEAR!!
    The above was/is meant sincerely.
    Now for a little levity:
    Only problem he’ll have is he will need to take a lot of laxative between now & the 1st game. At 41 I just don’t think he can repeat last season’s performance with the extra weight of all those homers stuck up his butt.

  28. ItsallaboutBrett says: Jun 12, 2010 3:05 PM

    Of course there are exceptions for Brett, he is calling the shots not Childress. Everybody knows that. Favre found the one team desperate enough for a QB and one coach he can dictate things to and boss around. Its all about Brett.

  29. CKL says: Jun 12, 2010 3:11 PM

    Shiancoe is being a good teammate and it’s classy of him (which is unlike what Farve has ever done…he of the double standard). Anyone remember Favre calling out Javon Walker while sitting at home HIMSELF? What a tool Favre is. NO ONE NO ONE is above their team nor have they “EARNED THE RIGHT” to do that. NO ONE. Favre has QBed exactly 1 SB win and he wasn’t the biggest reason they won that one either. He has however been part of the reason his teams have lost in the postseason for MANY MANY YEARS…including last year.
    And I say this as a Pats fan whose QB has helped lead them to 3 SB wins and 4 SB appearances…I was pissed as hell Brady was sitting in LA and talking about what his teammates who were in Foxboro needed to be doing. And Mr Kraft even said himself he wished TB could have been in full attendance at OTAs. Mr. Kraft, while understanding that family may change priorities, also understands TEAM and doesn’t feel that guys are above the team no matter what. He’s right.

  30. lebowski says: Jun 12, 2010 3:20 PM

    So glad Favre found a spineless organization that lets him do whatever the hell he wants. He’s earned it.

  31. Fire Ted says: Jun 12, 2010 3:22 PM

    How has he earned that right? By choking every time it mattered since 1997? By single-handedly botching two NFC title games within three years? That doesn’t make Favre special or the Vikings accomodating…that makes Favre a bitch and the Vikings, HIS bitch…and their fans really quite pathetic.

  32. Voice of Discontent says: Jun 12, 2010 3:23 PM

    Pro Viking Talk strikes again. What is this, Zygi paying you 50 cents a word?

  33. Drat says: Jun 12, 2010 3:23 PM

    “Everybody knows” sums up very well why this is not a news item.
    I love getting a little peeved at Florio. Then he hands things over to Rosenthal who doesn’t understand that every single team on earth goes into a game with two active QBs, and Smith, who tells us what we all know with a headline “Everybody knows.” Please, Florio, bring your little crazy, emotional, hypocritical, inconsistent, unfunny self back! We miss you!

  34. WHO DAT says: Jun 12, 2010 3:26 PM

    Yea but Favre would NOT be able to pull that shit with 95% of the other teams in the NFL… It’s just more proof that the ViQueen organization is the biggest joke in the NFL.
    WHO DAT 2 DAT

  35. TheSleepness says: Jun 12, 2010 3:26 PM

    sooo why does the media make shit up then? the media is filled with guys who wish they could play at the level of the sport they’re covering, in turn, their perspective becomes slanted and their own version of the “truth” becomes our “reality”. pathetic.

  36. Sow Crates says: Jun 12, 2010 3:31 PM

    Don’t stop there. Favre is also the exception to talking with his coaches, watching film, being called for intentional grounding and using retirement as a way to angle yourself onto the team you want.
    I will never consider Favre a top-5 QB of all time. Ever.
    Physically, there’s no argument. Nobody else will ever display his longevity again. Physicality constitutes a mandatory part of the criteria, but its not the only element to consider. The guy refuses to mentally master the game. He doesn’t look like it, but some of his physical talents have declined, and he hasn’t compensated his declining skills with a greater understanding of the game.
    He’s ended 3 years in a row with poor play and symbolic interceptions late in 2 NFC championship games. In 2005, he had a season that makes Jay Culter ’09 look like a pro bowler (20 tds, 29 ints). He’s had 6 years of 20+ interceptions. And Aaron Rodgers just had a better statistical season than Favre ever had in a Green Bay uniform. Rodgers finished with a YPA over 8 (8.2), something Favre’s never done in any uniform.
    It’s been 18 years and he still refuses to improve his ability to win games by design and not by impulse.

  37. william sizemore says: Jun 12, 2010 3:31 PM

    They call it ” RHIP ” In the Navy we called it Rank Has Its Privilege ” And what QB has that right more then the Kid, at least he still enjoys the game, I wish him well this season, except for Sept-19th. Bill

  38. Real Vikings fans wouldn't cheer for Favre says: Jun 12, 2010 3:32 PM

    lol @ Favre single-handedly costing his team and trip to the super bowl.
    I’m gonna go listen to Paul Allen’s call of it again hahahahhahaha

  39. Hauschild says: Jun 12, 2010 3:34 PM

    So, you knuckleheads just suddenly came to this realization and now seem to grudgingly accept it? After, what, the last 10 years or so???
    I think it drives half the people mad that Favre’s his own man and negotiates accordingly. And, I’m not sure why it bothers people because it is a sign that a person has attained a HUGE amount of success in his industry – something every person should aspire to, versus whining and crying and complaining, as progressives are want to do.
    The haters need to realize they have no effect on the man, so let it go and use that energy for things they do have control of – like trying to improve their own productivity .

  40. GRpatriot says: Jun 12, 2010 3:58 PM

    Childress isn’t a pimple on the ass of a real Head Coach! He can’t devlope a QB, now theirs so more discention in the ranks. Shocking, huh?
    Hell, Peterson is the best player. He and Allen ought to just say no! We ain’t coming in. Why should they?
    Childress is like an addict when it comes to Favre! Ruin the entire locker room for an old fart hasbeen! Go ahead, pretty soon and that day is coming. Favre will take a giant dump on the Vilkings, just like Green Bay…and The Jets Pathetic.

  41. MrHumble says: Jun 12, 2010 4:09 PM

    What a bunch of freakin’ pinheads posters are, and especially packer fans. do you think BF gives a rats ass what you think, do you think the nfl gives a rats ass, or sports writers, or HOF voters, or true football fans who speak with knowledge and not freakin’ emotions and jealousy?? Vent your sissy emotions all you want but the when the final chapter is written about one BF, he will hold more nfl records than anyone else, he will be a first ballot HOF and he will have a legacy of being one of the best QB’s ever…..as one Ocho Cinco would say, “child, grow up”.

  42. Occam says: Jun 12, 2010 4:14 PM

    Jimmy Smith. Your boyfriend broke up with you. It’s time to get over it and move on. You’ll find another QB to love, I promise.

  43. LBPACKFAN says: Jun 12, 2010 4:17 PM

    Tracy Porter
    Corey Webster
    Brian Dawkins
    A whole bunch of Vikes in 2004
    A boat load of Rams in 2001
    Ahhhh…so many postseason INT’S for Pharv.
    5 years from now when he’s 44-45 years old, will he still be able to call all the shots and do whatever he wants?
    Good luck this year, Pharv….another year older…a more difficult schedule…we shall see what happens. Week 4 bye isnt gonna be easy…having to go Week 5-Week 17 with no breaks.

  44. DailyNorseman says: Jun 12, 2010 4:19 PM

    Like Packer fans have anything to say on this matter. What a bunch of whining, hypocritical losers that entire fan base consists of.
    Yeah, your quarterback is so great and so wonderful. In six seasons in the NFL, Aaron Rodgers has been the best quarterback in the NFC North a grand total of one freaking time. Favre embarrassed him last year (along with the rest of his overrated, loser Green Bay teammates), and he’ll do so again this season, because Brett Favre is just that much better than Aaron Rodgers is.
    I think the Packer fans are just pissy about the fact that it’s only June, yet they already know the best that they can hope for is a wild card berth and the right to give up 50+ to some random NFC division winner. Like they did last post-season. Because they have the most overrated defense in football.

  45. Pervy Harvin says: Jun 12, 2010 4:21 PM

    Favre has earned the privilege. You know…like me on PFT.I bash all i want and still remain a member(ok,been booted 87 times) We each have our own puppet. Chilly is Favre’s and Florio is mine….

  46. GBfanForever says: Jun 12, 2010 4:25 PM

    And vikings fans wonder why their team gets laughed at all the time. A head coach publicly admonishes the teams best player for not attending a non-mandatory camp and then lets bert farve sit around with his thumb up his rear why the other guys go to real practice. That’s cool with me though, they’ve already shown they can’t win it all with him and now he’s another year older and even more pathetic.

  47. sven_ftw says: Jun 12, 2010 4:26 PM

    no problem there… just have him ready to hit it in stride by week 1!!

  48. PackAttackBackMan says: Jun 12, 2010 4:26 PM

    Yawn…… When do the REAL games start?

  49. va4favre says: Jun 12, 2010 4:39 PM

    I think Manning or Brady would get the same treatment if they are still playing at 40. I think Manning might be, but I doubt Brady will. He may be interested in a political career.
    Obviously, I am a Favre fan, but I am amazed at the Pack fans who disparage his record last year when he led the Vikes to 2 stirring victories over the Pack. Even a Pack fan would have to admit that he played flawlessly both times.
    Ghost Peppers: Are you seriously calling Favre a homo? I would suggest that you read the GB blogs at http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com.

  50. Cannon says: Jun 12, 2010 4:43 PM

    LOL. Welcome back to Vikings Football Talk (VFT) everybody!

  51. Jeremy says: Jun 12, 2010 4:50 PM

    So Favre has earned the right, but Peterson still has not? When does one get tenured into “gets to skip camp?” 10 years? 15? Has Jared Allen earned the right? Pat Williams? He’s been around forever and is nearly as old as Favre. Ryan Longwell?

  52. SkolVikes26 says: Jun 12, 2010 5:17 PM

    Here’s what the deal is, Brett is rehabbing his ankle from surgery, Adrian skipped practice sessions to attend his own day in his hometown. Brett has done more than earn his opportunity to think about his decision after what he did last season. Personally I think the media is blowing this up more than it should, Adrian spent this past week at the team’s facility working on drills with the other backs. Wish he were attending these practices but no one will remember this when he is running 5+ yards a crack Sept. 9.

  53. ashylarry says: Jun 12, 2010 5:19 PM

    He can show whenever as long as he continues to throw the INT’s to end his teams playoff run. = CHOKER

  54. PurpleRaid12 says: Jun 12, 2010 5:21 PM

    Lebowski says:
    “So glad Favre found a spineless organization that lets him do whatever the hell he wants. He’s earned it.”
    ___________________________________________________
    Question. How long did Favre do this with Green Bay, until they finally ‘had it’… 4-5 years was it? Not to mention, that same organization offered to pay him 20 million dollars to retire… I’d say he had his way with a pretty “spineless” organization already. After all, he earned it.

  55. Walleyeman says: Jun 12, 2010 5:30 PM

    The Vikings and Brett Favre stink like my minnow bucket does after all my fatheads die on a summer day!

  56. BigBear123 says: Jun 12, 2010 5:39 PM

    Other QBs can get away with it they just choose not to.
    Like to see the silent man Caldwell try to tell Peyton to do something he doesn’t want to. It won’t happen.

  57. BigBear123 says: Jun 12, 2010 5:41 PM

    Other QBs can get away with it they just choose not to.
    Like to see the silent man Caldwell try to tell Peyton to do something he doesn’t want to. It won’t happen.

  58. Saint33 says: Jun 12, 2010 5:44 PM

    I’m kinda curious, all you Packer/Bear fans out there love to talk about how doomed the team is, and all the schisms in the locker room, and how Favre is going to ruin this team. Please explain how. How does having a double standard for Favre showing up to camp effect this team, when players fully are aware of it and accept it, even encourage it. How did all this Favre drama hurt the Vikings last year? You people can make all the moronic statements about how the Vikings season is over all ready because there was a small issue with Peterson not showing up to camp, but just remember I’ll be back to laugh in all your faces when the Vikings are back on track as one of the best teams in the league, and this whole Favre/Peterson camp BS is long out of everyone’s memories

  59. DCViking says: Jun 12, 2010 5:55 PM

    Legit question:
    I’ve seen several people indicate that they thinkFavre’s performance last season was in part due to the soft schedule the Vikings played, and that he will regress this year as a result of playing a tougher schedule.
    Can’t you make the same argument against Aaron Rodgers since the teams play pretty much the same schedule?
    Aside from the fact that Favre can’t absorb the hits as well as Rodgers can…isn’t the schedule likely to impact both teams the same way???

  60. packers4life says: Jun 12, 2010 5:56 PM

    “and the right to give up 50+ to some random NFC division winner. Like they did last post-season. Because they have the most overrated defense in football.”
    I wouldn’t be talking. Your ‘stellar’ team got their asses kicked by that same team. And if you want to talk about overrated, look at Jared Allen and the rest of that Viking defense. You idiot Viking fans praise Allen for being the best but yet the only time he is ever good is when he goes up against a bad left tackle. It’s kind of obvious since 7 of his 14 sacks last year came against a backup LT. And then in the other 14 games, he only racked up a total of 7 sacks.
    And it’s funny how you Viking ‘fans’ always praised your defense for being the best in the league when they rank #1 against the run but when the Packers take that spot away from them, you call them overrated.

  61. LBPACKFAN says: Jun 12, 2010 6:15 PM

    DCViking –
    You are absolutely correct. In all honesty, and I have said it before on here…I think the NFC North as a whole will struggle…it won’t be easy. I could see the division winner going 10-6 next year.

  62. blackglass says: Jun 12, 2010 6:19 PM

    JimmySmithgetsabeating@gmail.com I see you still haven’t responded to me, JimmySmith. You’re a gutless coward who talks shit from behind your keyboard, but when I offer to go to the parking lot of your choosing to bounce you off the pavement a few times you shut up and hide like a little girl.

  63. prmpft says: Jun 12, 2010 6:27 PM

    …we won’t make any exceptions – GEAUX SAINTS!!!

  64. bluestree says: Jun 12, 2010 6:44 PM

    DCViking says:
    June 12, 2010 5:55 PM
    Legit question:
    I’ve seen several people indicate that they thinkFavre’s performance last season was in part due to the soft schedule the Vikings played, and that he will regress this year as a result of playing a tougher schedule.
    Can’t you make the same argument against Aaron Rodgers since the teams play pretty much the same schedule?
    Aside from the fact that Favre can’t absorb the hits as well as Rodgers can…isn’t the schedule likely to impact both teams the same way???
    ———————————————
    Yes. The way scheduling is done, teams in the same division play common opponents, so strength of schedule is similar.
    Aaron Rodgers has plenty to prove. If his O line is better, he’ll be expected to deliver big numbers for a third straight year. I think he will, and win alot of games, too.
    I don’t believe BF can plut two seasons like ’09 together. Just because he hasn’t in a long time. But then, I never thought he could do what he did last season.
    The NFC North will be decided by head to head divisional wins, not who has the hardest schedule. Same as last year.

  65. CaptainMarvel says: Jun 12, 2010 6:44 PM

    Gosh, listen to all these jealous little girls! You all know the Vikings are the best team and the favorite for the Super Bowl. Even New Orleans fans and players know it; why else would they be talking so much smack when they won? (with help from the refs) Not to pick on them alone; Packer fans are even worse. Deep down they know their QB is great for stats, but that’s it. In the big games he only plays good when they’re way behind, and he’d rather take the sack than hurt his stats.

  66. buzzbissinger says: Jun 12, 2010 6:44 PM

    What other player also has his own locker room?
    Answer: Barry Bonds, and we all know what happened to him. Except those baseball pansies call it a ‘Club House’.
    PFT= Perpetual Favre Talk

  67. Sow Crates says: Jun 12, 2010 6:45 PM

    Percy Harvin and Sidney Rice are not old, experienced veterans. Even if Favre is incapable of running around too much on a healing ankle, its the unquestioned-QB’s job to teach those young guys and cultivate them into better receivers. I feel that Favre hasn’t done that since Donald Driver like years ago.

  68. buzzbissinger says: Jun 12, 2010 6:48 PM

    blackglass rules. Glad to see you’re back.

  69. bluestree says: Jun 12, 2010 7:05 PM

    mattgso says:
    June 12, 2010 2:56 PM
    “Favre is the one player in the entire league who’s permitted to do whatever he wants during the offseason. ”
    And that’s why he chokes in the playoffs. What you do at practice is what you do in the game.
    Mentally check out of practices… or in BrINT’s case, not show at all… and you mentally check out during the game
    ———————————-
    Truth. Joe Montana and Steve Young didn’t skip camp. Neither does Manning. And you can’t say BF “earned” something they didn’t.
    This was the deal when he came on board, and it’s fine as long as they win. If they don’t, it won’t take long for the dam to bust. The media will start questioning the effect of not being in camp. The coaches will get reamed by everybody with a keyboard, and then the resentment from teamates will start.
    Football is a team game. You can’t have one guy above the team unless you’re winning.
    The Vikings expect big things this year. If it goes that way, great.
    But if it goes bad, it will go very bad.
    And I will ride that horse till it drops.

  70. ejtowne says: Jun 12, 2010 7:14 PM

    To all of you Favre haters: Grow up. I mean it, grow up!! Why is it that when PFT posts something about Favre you all whine like little brats? My son doesn’t even cry as much as you haters. When i first found this website i thought… cool, this is a pretty cool site. I loved coming on here to read what people think about the greatest sport of all, but……… Now i get sick to death of reading some of your responses. Tired of hearing, “I hate Favre”, “Favre sucks”, “Favre is a douchebag”. If you are that bored or that challenged, then find something else to do other than wasting the space on here with that crap. Let the real NFL fans talk to one another without seeing the negative shit. I’m not even a favre fan but i wouldn’t waste my time writing two or three words or sentences about how much i hate him.

  71. TheToolofTools says: Jun 12, 2010 7:16 PM

    He’s going too get hauled off on a cart for ONE LAST RIDE if he is too stupid to retire.

  72. danielcp0303 says: Jun 12, 2010 7:26 PM

    Favre hasn’t done anything the last 10 years, except lose important games.

  73. Unwashed Villager says: Jun 12, 2010 7:54 PM

    Ghost Peppers: no disrespect, but do you think the Bears ongoing QB situation is karma for letting the Fridge score a TD in the SB instead of Walter Payton? I’m a Packer fan, but I still believe Sweetness was the best RB of all time.
    Vikes can have our sloppy seconds. Lot of good it’s done them, too.
    The Vikings and their fans are so funny. It’s ok for Brent to skip mandatories but it’s not ok for Peterson. It’s ok for the Vikes to use Bert as their starting QB even though he loses it in pressure situations because hey, he had great numbers last year. But that Packer QB Rodgers sure sucks, he’s just a stats QB. lulz

  74. CheeseAttack says: Jun 12, 2010 8:19 PM

    That Viking immorality comes from the top down. NonChristian ownership, flaky cross dressing coach, substance abusers on the team, steroid masking agents, numerous arrests, and homosexual fans.
    They only wish they could be like superior Wisconsin and the mastery of the Green Bay organization.
    HEIL PACK!

  75. dhunter says: Jun 12, 2010 8:21 PM

    VIKINGS Rule in 2010

  76. Popeye says: Jun 12, 2010 9:09 PM

    maybe thats why the last 3 passes he threw for 3 different teams were ints….2 of them in title games…hhaahhahahaaha

  77. CheeseAttack says: Jun 12, 2010 9:27 PM

    Brett used to be my hero. Then he took a big dump on my head and joined the Vikings. I became so bitter about it that I have to come on every Viking post and rip him for anything I can imagine. I know Vikings fan are laughing every time I come on here and post because it shows how bitter I still am and can’t let it go but I can’t help myself. FU Brett! I mean BrINT! Ah, Bert?
    GO PACK!

  78. CheeseAttack says: Jun 12, 2010 9:32 PM

    I know the Viking organization, the Viking players and Vikings fans do not have a problem with Brett not coming to camp but I have to pretend it bothers them because it bothers me. It used to bug me to no end when he did this same $hit with the Packers mostly because the Packers could not deal with it so now I’ll pretend it bothers the Vikings, even though it doesn’t.
    SCHISM!
    GO PACK!

  79. VoxVagina says: Jun 12, 2010 10:02 PM

    @Daily Norseman
    “Yeah, your quarterback is so great and so wonderful. In six seasons in the NFL, Aaron Rodgers has been the best quarterback in the NFC North a grand total of one freaking time”
    You realize that Rodgers has been starting for 2 years, right? The only reason Rodgers wasn’t starting earlier was because the Packers front office wanted Favre to retire as a member of their team. And when Aaron Rodgers was entering his contract year, they had to choose between a 38 year old QB or the guy who they drafteed as his eventual replacement, thinking he would retire before it came to that point. They tried to push Favre to retirement so that he could remain a Packer for life. But he came back. At that point the Packers had already committed to Rodgers and they would not let Rodgers hit free agency without ever starting for them. They had no choice. This was a unique situation. With any other circumstances, Rodgers would have been starting much earlier and would have an even more impressive resume. Rodgers has been impressive in just 2 years. The 49ers would have been a fantastic team if they picked Rodgers rather than Alex Smith. Phew long-winded post complete.

  80. JimmySmith says: Jun 12, 2010 10:05 PM

    blackglass says:
    JimmySmithgetsabeating@gmail.com I see you still haven’t responded to me, JimmySmith. You’re a gutless coward who talks shit from behind your keyboard, but when I offer to go to the parking lot of your choosing to bounce you off the pavement a few times you shut up and hide like a little girl.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Wow, I must have missed this, I would have preferred to meet your sister down in the parking lot, I hear after she removes her dentures, its an experience of a lifetime.
    But if the offer still stands, the parking lot of my choice is outside the Hilton Hotel in Dubai, say around 8 PM?
    But do let me know if you can’t make it, I have other things to do so email me at vikingfansaredouchebags@gmail.com

  81. phillyfinsfan says: Jun 12, 2010 10:10 PM

    I love the funny comments. The bottom line is that it doesn’t matter what we think. If the Vikings players are ok with it, then he’s their guy. The Giants welcomed Michael Strahan back in 2007 after he didn’t want to report to camp, and they probably would have done it again the following year. If Favre didn’t give the Vikings their best chance to win a Super Bowl then they would tell him, “Screw you!” Forget the stupid int, AP fumbled the game and they got screwed on a call to help set up the winning FG drive.

  82. PackFaninPackLand says: Jun 12, 2010 10:20 PM

    MDS: “Obviously, Shiancoe is right: Favre is the one player in the entire league who’s permitted to do whatever he wants during the offseason. And the Vikings will accept him as soon as he decides to come back.”
    Then why is you people in the media can’t seem to accept it ??? If the Queens management and their players don’t care, why do you ??? And why does there need to be 75 stories about it every off-season.
    Seems to me that Favre has talked exactly twice “TO” the media about his situation since Jan. and yet Florio and the boys at PFT can’t seem to report on it often enough ! I put the number of Favre stories since mid Jan. at close to 75.
    Gee, one would almost think Florio and PFT have an “agenda” here or something … nahhhhhh, couldn’t be.

  83. Ambrose says: Jun 12, 2010 10:21 PM

    “We’re sitting here, Favre is supposed to be the franchise player, and we’re in here talking about practice, I mean….practice. Not a game…practice.”
    -Allen Iverson

  84. fsfinstad@gmail.com says: Jun 12, 2010 10:27 PM

    Lets see now. Will it be the Minnesota Vikings, or the Los Ageles Quake. Loyal (???) Fans, you make the choice when they start loosing…..Gonna go to LA and watch your new team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  85. CheeseAttack says: Jun 13, 2010 12:31 AM

    I hate BrINT Farve. See that, I made a funny and called him BrINT Farve. That shows that even though my ex-hero took a huge wet dump on my head I don’t mind. Yup, it still does not bother me at all!!! In fact I’m quite funny by doing so. Watch this. BrINT Farve!. Ha Ha, did you see that! Now watch this. BrINT Farve is a BiQueen! Wow! I used BrINT and BiQueen in the same sentence! ZING! Boy did I just show all those Viking Fans!!!
    GO PACK!

  86. Occam says: Jun 13, 2010 12:59 AM

    Brilliant use of the Iverson quote, Ambrose.

  87. bruce campbells chainsaw hand says: Jun 13, 2010 1:43 AM

    Hauschild –
    Favre is his own man, and that’s the problem. He plays a TEAM game. And yeah, he’s had a ton of success, but he didn’t do it all by himself. I seem to remember the Super Bowl he won had less to do with him and more to do with Reggie White and Desmond Howard.

  88. whodaywhodat says: Jun 13, 2010 2:00 AM

    # SkolVikes26 says: June 12, 2010 5:17 PM
    Here’s what the deal is, Brett is rehabbing his ankle from surgery, Adrian skipped practice sessions to attend his own day in his hometown. Brett has done more than earn his opportunity to think about his decision after what he did last season. Personally I think the media is blowing this up more than it should, Adrian spent this past week at the team’s facility working on drills with the other backs. Wish he were attending these practices but no one will remember this when he is running 5+ yards a crack Sept. 9.
    =======================
    HOW MANY TIMES MUST I TELL YOU???? You are a Viking fan, your opinion is no matter……..
    TWO DAT!!!!

  89. shadowman1433 says: Jun 13, 2010 6:59 AM

    When you run the team you can do anything that you want. farve is too big and important to practice with the little people on the team. Just remember that when you win it’s all farve and when you lose it’s someone else’s fault or it’s some mystery injury that farve has had but never told anyone about.

  90. whodaywhodat says: Jun 13, 2010 7:56 AM

    # DCViking says: June 12, 2010 5:19 PM
    Oh, and also, the Saints Superbowl win now makes them and their franchise on par with the Steelers, 49ers, and Cowboys.
    ====================================
    I wouldn’t say we are on par with these historic teams(yet). But we definitely are not on par with the Lions, VIKINGS, Bills, Bengals, Eagles, Titans, Chargers, Falcons, Panthers, Cardinals, Seahawks, Browns, Texans and Jaguars—as they have never won a Super Bowl. You see, my friend, we are better then half the league!!!

  91. The Black Cat says: Jun 13, 2010 8:10 AM

    I firmly believe if Favre had been at the OTAs last year, he never would have thrown that interception!

  92. mattgso says: Jun 13, 2010 9:30 AM

    “# Occam says: June 13, 2010 12:59 AM
    Brilliant use of the Iverson quote, Ambrose.”
    brINT is dreads, neck ink, and an arm sleeve?

  93. GBXXXO says: Jun 13, 2010 10:06 AM

    The saying that keeps coming back to me is “There is no I in Team” That’s the bottom line here and let’s just face the fact that Favre has always been about Favre. The exceptions that are being made for Favre are exactly what keeps players fit and mentally prepared for the games. Anybody who knows any sports knows that joining a pro football team in August and skipping all mini camps and training camp is just plain stupid. I assure you, the players busting their asses in the July training camp are pissed that he doesn’t have to participate. They just aren’t talking about it because Chilly the idiot is telling them not to. Favre’s season last year only proved that he is still as reckless and for himself as he has always been. Yet another season ending needless interception to end a championship game. You just can’t ignore the many times this has happened from Favre trying to do it all himself. Favre is exactly where he needs to be, a team where there are no rules, boundaries or consideration for other team members. The Packer organization proved they just won’t tolerate this kind of behavior. The Green Bay Packer organization is now and has always been a class organization that does not let players run them. Ted Thompson knew exactly what he was doing, and I suspect there was a lot more going on but the Packers have too much class to disclose exactly what the diva was doing. As much as I don’t like the way Favre has acted, I really don’t want to see him seriously injured. I have a sick feeling they will be carrying him off the field this year. Exactly the way he does not want this to end. Without proper practice/training camps, Favre will not be ready to play an entire season. He made his bed now he has to lie in it. Go Packers and Rodgers!!!

  94. robsterNY says: Jun 13, 2010 10:13 AM

    I dont give a good God Damn who you are …There is no such a thing as earning the right to do whatever the hell you want. What about your team mates? Dont you want to work as hard as they do preparing?……well….I guess if your super-human Brett Farvre you dont have too.After all Brett your better than all those mere mortals. And the Vikings as an organization should’nt put up with this shit!…..I hope a Blitzing saftey cleans his clock…Then none of us have to listen to this bullshit anymore.

  95. David56 says: Jun 13, 2010 10:39 AM

    I know it is another generation but neither Bart Starr nor Johnny U. nor Len Dawson nor Dan Fouts nor any of a host of Hall of Fame qb’s would be given this kind of a deal from their respective teams nor would they ever have imagined even asking for such a sweet set-up.
    Say what you want, but in pulling this crap year-after-year Favre has put his own personal wants and needs ahead of the rest of the team. No one player should ever put himself above the team. I don’t care how good they are or were.

  96. Ruvell100 says: Jun 13, 2010 11:13 AM

    Thank God the Packer’s brass had the balls to stand up to this guy. In the end, we have a very good young team, a top 5 QB and an 81,000 person season ticket waiting list. We lost nothing.
    I can’t remember, do the Vikings (or Minnesota in general) have a reputation for standing up for themselves? Maybe we can hear from the guy who posted about how Chicago and Milwaukee people drive up to Minnesota to pillage their pathetic welfare system and then drive home!
    No free rides in life, Brett. Unless you want to live in the Land of 10,000 Losses and 10,000 real Vikings fans. Better hope those corporate sponsors have a strong third quarter!

  97. bluestree says: Jun 13, 2010 12:58 PM

    Hey, maybe Farve will be the first guy to go into the HOF without a team. Just go in as #4, Brett Farve, Ironman (or as his wife calls him “the toughest man in America”).
    Of course, don’t expect him to show for the early part of the festivities. He’ll chopper in for the induction.

  98. footballrulz says: Jun 13, 2010 2:05 PM

    Of course, don’t expect him to show for the early part of the festivities. He’ll chopper in for the induction.
    _______________________________
    Winner!

  99. VikingsPrincess says: Jun 13, 2010 5:28 PM

    Ok – I’ve been lurking around here for a while without commenting. Let me make some observations:
    1) Packer fans are a bitter, classless bunch as a rule and have VERY selective memories of a man who brought them out of obscurity after decades of nothing. You all should be ashamed of yourselves. You know who you are.
    2) Brett Favre had surgery. Adrian Peterson did not. I can say as a life-long Vikings fan that I don’t see that Peterson has done enough to even merit his own day – let alone the 4th annual! – in his home town. If ANYONE has themselves as the #1 priority of the two, it’s PETERSON – not Favre.
    3) Vikings will have another tremendous year with Favre at the helm. I’m predicting a three-peat of the division title. Sorry you whiney Packer fans. You’ll have to amuse yourself with highlights of Jared Allen planting AR’s dainty face in the turf over and over and over…
    4) Lastly, Brett Favre did NOT cost us the Championship game. 3 fumbles by Peterson (who should get his damn @ss to camp btw), a fumble by Harvin and the interception all worked together to cost us the game. Not to mention an ATROCIOUS performance by the offensive line (McKinnie – I’m watching you) and a blundering 12 men on the field mistake by our illustrious head coach. For you STUPID Packer fans crowing about “BrINT” and the other dumb things you say – maybe this year you can actually learn how football is played instead of running around trumpeting what an awesome team you have and what a legacy and blah blah blah – when you haven’t won the division since 2007… and really haven’t done too much since the mid to late 90’s.
    Glad I could get that off my chest. It’s been festering.

  100. Ruvell100 says: Jun 13, 2010 5:56 PM

    Nice try, Princess…here you go.
    ” Lastly, Brett Favre did NOT cost us the Championship game. 3 fumbles by Peterson (who should get his damn @ss to camp btw)”
    ———————-
    Thanks for proving my point. He lost ONE fumble, recovered his own on another, and the third was a miscommunication/failed handoff from Favre…who knows why? BTW, the Vikings ran for over 1000 yards less last year, just as an aside.
    ______________
    “maybe this year you can actually learn how football is played instead of running around trumpeting what an awesome team you have and what a legacy and blah blah blah – when you haven’t won the division since 2007… and really haven’t done too much since the mid to late 90’s”
    ——————-
    Who has won the North the most since the mid-late 90’s, Princess? Back to point one, who has the selective and short memory?
    _____________
    “Vikings will have another tremendous year with Favre at the helm. I’m predicting a three-peat of the division title. Sorry you whiney Packer fans.”
    ——————
    For a franchise known for suffering from chronic disappointment, you sure talk alot, young lady. I predict you take third, have difficulty selling out games without bailouts and whine about how the refs screwed you out every game. I think history is on my side on that one. But don’t fret, you are a Viking fan. You can at least stop watching them and definitely not attend any games after a 2-3 start. That’s a Viking fans hallmark, isn’t it?

  101. packers4life says: Jun 13, 2010 6:02 PM

    “1) Packer fans are a bitter, classless bunch as a rule and have VERY selective memories of a man who brought them out of obscurity after decades of nothing. ”
    It’s funny how Viking fans go right to Favre when it comes to bringing the Packers back into a success franchise. Sorry but that man isn’t Favre but rather Ron Wolf. Wolf was the one who built the franchise into a Super Bowl winning team and he was also the one who completly resurrected Favre’s career. Had he not traded for Favre, Favre probably would of been stuck as a backup his entire career.
    Typical Viking fan. Says things that they think is right when in reality, it’s completly wrong.

  102. VikingsPrincess says: Jun 13, 2010 6:24 PM

    @Ruvell100:
    What has the Pack done in recent memory? You proved exactly my point. The most relevant season is the last one, the most important is the next. Your NFC championship appearance over 3 years ago is a moot point. Packer fans live in the past. Succinctly – that is exactly what I meant.
    @Packers4Life:
    Who was your QB in your last 2 SB appearances. One Brett Favre, was it not? I love how, now that Favre has gone “to the enemy”, Ron Wolf got you your current-era SB ring. 3 years ago it was Favre. Amazing how that changes.
    I am not a typical Vikings fan. I don’t think there is any such thing. Some of us are realists (like me), others are negative all the time, some are positive (for inexplicable reasons) and a couple are approaching the obnoxiousness of the average Packer fan.
    Nothing I said in my original post was wrong. You’ll note I didn’t blame to officiating, I blame the TEAM and the coach. IMO with as many turnovers as we had, we should have been shut out or had a score like the Cowpokes had against us the week before. I think it’s a tribute to Favre’s ability to make plays and use the tools around him that we took that game to overtime. If I were a Saints fan, I’d be embarrassed about that.

  103. CheeseAttack says: Jun 13, 2010 7:30 PM

    Being a Packer fan I’m inherently a better football than any other fan in the NFL. Because of my team’s history I automatically know more about football, am a more dedicated fan, and am a better overall person than all other NFL fans. Especially Viking fans. How could it even be possible for someone that likes to root for another team than the Green Bay Packers that they don’t know that they are not as good as me just because. Idiots!!!
    GO PACK!!

  104. Majik Bullet says: Jun 13, 2010 8:09 PM

    Why is it that the only ones on here spewing hate, and idiocy, about Favre missing camp are Packer fans? Vikings fans don’t care, and none of the other 30 teams’ fans really care either.
    The only ones that care are the bitter, scorned, hateful fans of a team that Favre hasn’t been on for 2 years. Time to move on children.

  105. Ruvell100 says: Jun 14, 2010 11:04 AM

    Majik, you are perfect for the Vikings. A grown man willing to foresake your state and heritage for textbook idol-worship. No spine, no guts, no heart.

  106. Ruvell100 says: Jun 14, 2010 11:07 AM

    “Time to move on children.”
    ——————
    I took my Brett Favre posters in my room down when I turned 13. How’s your wife like your Favre shrine? Does she think that’s an adult thing to do?

  107. Supersuckers says: Jun 14, 2010 11:51 AM

    Why is it ok for Favre to skip camp when more accomplished and better QB’s (Roethlisberger, Brady, Manning) feel it is necessary to be at camp?

  108. Majik Bullet says: Jun 14, 2010 1:02 PM

    Ruvell
    I never wrote off my home state or heritage, not even close. Choosing to follow the Vikings instead of the Packers makes me no less Irish, and no less of a Wisconsinite. And if you really want to question my spine, Monroe isn’t hard to find, and neither am I.
    And by the way, my wife loves the shrine, probably about as much as your same sex life partner (not that there’s anything wrong with that) enjoys staring at that 1995 Packers Super Bowl trophy you claim exists.
    And Super, why do you care if Favre skips camp, or if Brady and Manning do go? How does it affect you, or your team?

  109. Bleedin Purple says: Jun 14, 2010 1:39 PM

    Why do people care so much? They did it last year, its nothing new. ITS BRETT FKN FAVRE. 20+ Year Veteran and you guys are saying he hasnt “earned” the right? What do you have to do to “earn” the right then?
    His teammates/coaches/owner are ok with it and so are the fans, people are just mad because of how good Brett did last season are scared he might do the same to their team.
    Stop all your whining its not even your team.

  110. RC IV says: Jun 14, 2010 1:44 PM

    Ruvell100 says:
    June 14, 2010 11:07 AM
    “Time to move on children.”
    ——————
    I took my Brett Favre posters in my room down when I turned 13. How’s your wife like your Favre shrine? Does she think that’s an adult thing to do?
    ================================
    So, you are saying you are 14?
    That explains A LOT.

  111. RC IV says: Jun 14, 2010 1:45 PM

    Ruvell100 says:
    June 14, 2010 11:07 AM
    “Time to move on children.”
    ——————
    I took my Brett Favre posters in my room down when I turned 13. How’s your wife like your Favre shrine? Does she think that’s an adult thing to do?
    ================================
    So, you are saying you are 14?
    That explains A LOT.

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