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Freeman: Other owners favor Jaguars move

No matter what we say about the Jaguars’ plight in Jacksonville, plenty of folks in Jacksonville will refuse to accept our opinions, primarily because we refuse to sugarcoat or neutralize our belief that the Jaguars are destined to move.

But there’s another guy who shares our views.  He’s Mike Freeman of CBSSports.com, and formerly of the Florida Times-Union.  Freeman sees the handwriting even more clearly than we do.

Freeman believes that, despite recent gains in ticket sales, “[t]he Jaguars represent the official end of the small-market experiment the NFL launched some 15 years ago.”  He also has heard that other owners “are agitated with the Jaguars’ situation more than ever and increasingly favor the team moving to Los Angeles, London or even Orlando (assuming there’s a new stadium built).”

Freeman’s guess?  The Jags will be moving to L.A. within two or three years.

We wouldn’t bet against him on this one.  The only question is whether another team lands in L.A. first, forcing the launch of the London Shaguars.

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  1. Tinbender says: Jun 24, 2010 7:33 PM

    How bout “The London BP Gushers”?

  2. Draft King says: Jun 24, 2010 7:36 PM

    The lease buyout for the Jaguars could be steep based on what I have read. I still think the Vikings are the most likely to relocate to Los Angeles because of their tenuous lease situation, which is a shame since they have great fans and a storied NFL history (or at least more storied than what Jacksonville has).

  3. neverlandrancher says: Jun 24, 2010 7:37 PM

    RIP Jaguars.
    Titans fans will miss having you guys around.

  4. Ray Ray is soft says: Jun 24, 2010 7:40 PM

    If the team moves,I predict that the team will change there name either before or after the move.Similar to the Houston Oilers move to Tennessee.Also it will Probably alter the AFC South.

  5. ☻☼CBS, FOX, ESPN, NFLN nbc says: Jun 24, 2010 7:41 PM

    THE LA RIOTS

  6. Jagz says: Jun 24, 2010 7:42 PM

    Florio is a f_cking hack. I’d pay good money to see Tony Boselli smash his face into the ground.
    Go Jags.

  7. Tagliboo says: Jun 24, 2010 7:43 PM

    Jacksonville never should have gotten a team in 1995. Cities such as St. Louis and Baltimore were much more deserving at that time and history has borne this out.

  8. theravenlives2 says: Jun 24, 2010 7:43 PM

    Cue the Jacksonville apologists in 5…4…3…2…..

  9. frostymugobeer says: Jun 24, 2010 7:44 PM

    “Shaguars” ? gotta admit that is pretty funny.
    yeah baby YEAH !

  10. Citizen Strange says: Jun 24, 2010 7:45 PM

    The only question is whether another team lands in L.A. first, forcing the launch of the London Shaguars.
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    Oh BEE-have!

  11. Nola North says: Jun 24, 2010 7:47 PM

    Wow Mike I actually laughed at that you randy bugger!!!
    Now if you will only let me post again after my comment posting probation? And yes I have learned my lesson!

  12. Contra says: Jun 24, 2010 7:47 PM

    NO…STOP IT MIKE!
    You took the Jaguars off of a list of teams who would move to LA.
    Now you have them back!?
    You are terrible.

  13. Sara says: Jun 24, 2010 7:48 PM

    seriously? can we please shut up about this? Don’t you have anything else to “report”? We get it, everyone thinks the Jags should go to L.A. (which I don’t get since they have proven they don’t support a pro football team), can we let it rest until when/if it happens.

  14. *Legion* says: Jun 24, 2010 7:50 PM

    I think London is a ways off from actually hosting an NFL team.
    I think the next cities to get teams are Los Angeles and San Antonio.
    LA is huge, obviously no explanation needed.
    San Antonio is bigger than Jacksonville, has Austin (equal to Jacksonville’s size) just a tad over an hour’s drive away, and San Antonio-Austin are sufficiently far away from the other Texas teams (Dallas and Houston aren’t that close)
    Unlike Jacksonville, whose argument back in the ’90s is that they were headed to big population growth, Austin/San Antonio actually *is* growing like mad. Plus, unlike the Jacksonville population, south Texas is football crazy. They packed the Alamodome for the displaced Saints.

  15. Jagz says: Jun 24, 2010 7:54 PM

    Oh yeah and Freeman is just a b_tch because Jacksonville booted him out of the city. He used to write for the TU and has a thing against Jax. Mike Freeman lied about his resume, whats one more BS story from him? It’s in his nature.

  16. tommyguns says: Jun 24, 2010 7:55 PM

    I live in Jax. Its pretty sad here. This city has wanted a team for so long. They got one. People should be scraping for ticket money..If you want the team to stay..If not, then sit home and watch other games due to blackouts. I think the team is good for the city. They have never had a standout superstar though. The team is like the city, mediocre at best with no excitement. And dont give me, “They have been in the playoffs and AFC Champoinship games.” Bottom line is this- Tickets must be sold to keep the team here. My team got a stud Linebacker in Dansby and the best wideout in the NFL-B. Marshall. And Miami is not perfect, I admit.
    Jacksonville–Get a stud player to get fans in the stadium! Bring in someone excitement! When this team leaves, you will NEVER get another team again. It will be laughable to entertain the idea in the future. Your team is here, keep them here.

  17. gixrider says: Jun 24, 2010 8:00 PM

    “Jacksonville never should have gotten a team in 1995. Cities such as St. Louis and Baltimore were much more deserving at that time and history has borne this out.”
    Tagliboo, you couldn’t be more correct….

  18. ErikInHell says: Jun 24, 2010 8:01 PM

    Baltimore didn’t get the expansion team because art model was on the expansion committee. It would seem he already had plans on how to make the most money on the deal.

  19. wxwax says: Jun 24, 2010 8:03 PM

    Jagz, you should be banned for that post.
    You’re crossing the line.

  20. The_Emperor says: Jun 24, 2010 8:06 PM

    Dear Florio,
    Good story… but the end joke sucked. Good story though.

  21. Rightnow says: Jun 24, 2010 8:09 PM

    The British oilers!!

  22. Ufanforreal says: Jun 24, 2010 8:17 PM

    # Jagz says: June 24, 2010 7:42 PM
    Florio is a f_cking hack. I’d pay good money to see Tony Boselli smash his face into the ground.
    Go Jags.
    ——————————————————
    Why you so mad at Florio he’s just reporting on the same thing the last part of your post is saying’
    Go Jags………….to LA.

  23. steelerfan9598 says: Jun 24, 2010 8:17 PM

    Stop with the London crap. It’s a stupid ass idea and a travel nightmare. The Seahawks playing in Miami is nothing compared to intercontinental flight.

  24. Stuart Scotts left eye says: Jun 24, 2010 8:19 PM

    I don’t think that LA would change a thing about the name “Jaguars”. I think they’ll change the jerseys and logo probably but LA have taken teams in the past and not changed their names even though they make absolutely no sense in the Southern California area, such as the Lakers and Dodgers.

  25. HarrisonHits says: Jun 24, 2010 8:19 PM

    The London fans would be better for the team than the LA ones would be. If they were even vaguely competitive they would sell out every game there.

  26. JSpicoli says: Jun 24, 2010 8:20 PM

    Contraction and/or moving to larger markets is writing on the wall for all the major pro sports leagues. The revenue is drying up with the withering economy.

  27. Bing253 says: Jun 24, 2010 8:21 PM

    Are they planning on building a stadium in LA? Doubt they would use public funds and if they did Al Davis would position himself to try and move the Raiders down there since that’s what he’s always wanted

  28. MrSalamander says: Jun 24, 2010 8:23 PM

    Dear Jacksonville,
    Do not want.
    Love,
    Southern California
    p.s. Florio: Stop saying words.

  29. MrSalamander says: Jun 24, 2010 8:23 PM

    Dear Jacksonville,
    Do not want.
    Love,
    Southern California
    p.s. Florio: Stop saying words.

  30. NOwillrepeat says: Jun 24, 2010 8:24 PM

    LA could care less about the NFL. Wouldn’t you think the second largest market in the US would have one if they did? They’ve lost TWO teams in the 90’s and have done little to attract a replacement . IF they didn’t support the NFL then, why would they now?
    Orlando wouldn’t work either. They barely support the magic and thats only when they’re winning. Too many out-of-towners (fans of other teams) in the area which would lead to many of the same problems Jacksonville is facing.
    London? Not sure how a team could travel all the way across the pond (and possibly west coast) every other week and expect to compete. This could lead to quick disinterest amongst the british fan base and the experiment would be a failure.
    With that being said, LA or London would be the logical choice here as they are enormous global cities. However, upon relocation, this franchise must win and win quickly or face many of the same problems they had in jacksonville.

  31. GBP says: Jun 24, 2010 8:27 PM

    LA Potheads

  32. raiderrob21 says: Jun 24, 2010 8:31 PM

    “I too like to live dangerously….HIT ME!”

  33. ampats says: Jun 24, 2010 8:35 PM

    Just think,
    Obama could have visited the Saints on one of his two or three visits to the region the last few months.

  34. burntorangehorn says: Jun 24, 2010 8:38 PM

    There are so many much better things to do in California than watch the NFL. Fortunately, very few of those things are in Los Angeles, because that city blows compared to San Diego, Monterey, SF, and almost any other place along the California coast. Maybe the Jags would do well there.

  35. jem989 says: Jun 24, 2010 8:40 PM

    London is a bad idea, the fanbase is small (but hardcore) but they will all stay loyal to the teams they already support. 2 games a year, yeah thats a good idea, make the league some more money… but we aint ready for a franchise

  36. snowbum says: Jun 24, 2010 8:45 PM

    # Bing253 says: June 24, 2010 8:21 PM
    Are they planning on building a stadium in LA? Doubt they would use public funds and if they did Al Davis would position himself to try and move the Raiders down there since that’s what he’s always wanted
    ————————–
    Where have you been? There are two privately funded stadiums waiting to be built. No public funds needed.
    If they remain the LA Jaguars, fans will think a car is their mascot.

  37. Bob Nelson says: Jun 24, 2010 8:51 PM

    The vikings should beat them there.
    The vikings lease expires at the end of the 2011 season and they have already refused to renew.
    Nothing has been done about a Minnesota stadium. No site identified, no government money allocated, no stadium design set, no finance plan or budget yet.
    The Jaguars do no go homeless next year like the vikings.
    As an outsider I perceive the Jacksonville problems as:
    1) Geographic limited territory by the ocean, and more historical franchises in Florida and Georgia.
    2) Wrong sized stadium. Tampa Bay tore down their large stadium, and the Bank One Bears replaced historic Soldier Field with a much smaller new Soldier Field. In total numbers until recently the Jaguars drew comparatively well but the % of capacity figure led to a different impression.
    3) Their coach is not a likeable guy. He never has given the impression of being intelligent, a good leader, or good human.
    4) It has been a long long time since the Jaguars had a nice crowd pleasing QB who could get the job done. Worst of all the coach and management don’t seem to be looking for a good QB.
    In the short term having a likeable coach and QB would change their outlook considerably.

  38. Scalzo says: Jun 24, 2010 8:55 PM

    I like the move to San Antonio myself. They sold out every game to the Saints when they played there. They have a large population in the area. Texans LOVE football. Texas is big enough for 3 teams Florida is not. Also if they moved to San Antonio they can stay in the AFC South no need for realignment.

  39. jackybadass says: Jun 24, 2010 8:59 PM

    move tampa the owners are broke+ who cares about that lousy franchise!

  40. Eric Q says: Jun 24, 2010 8:59 PM

    My FAVORITE line in this: “…favor the team moving to Los Angeles, London or even Orlando.”
    Note “or even Orlando,” AFTER nonchalantly suggesting London.
    Is there an Orlando even further east of the London location?
    If the Jags relocate to Orlando, I bet they’re gonna catch hell when they try to go through customs.

  41. highplainsdrifter says: Jun 24, 2010 9:03 PM

    Dear Mike Florio, Greg Rosenthall, and Mike Freeman,
    Please die of gonorrhea and rot in hell…..Cookies?
    Sincerely,
    Ray Finkel’s Mom

  42. Allied Biscuit says: Jun 24, 2010 9:04 PM

    LA is a piece of shit city and is in prime running for a huge economic collapse. the second an nfl team goes back there, the nfl dies in popularity.

  43. jaxdolfan says: Jun 24, 2010 9:06 PM

    The main problem with the Jags is that College football roots run real deep here and college teams are real good here. Most fans can’t tickets to their college team and pro team. The city doesn’t have enough corporate money to fill the other seats and boxes.
    If they do move the team, they should move it to a place where there are no good college football teams….maybe Ohio State or Nebraska or something.

  44. zod says: Jun 24, 2010 9:28 PM

    post of the night:
    Dear Mike Florio, Greg Rosenthall, and Mike Freeman,
    Please die of gonorrhea and rot in hell…..Cookies?
    Sincerely,
    Ray Finkel’s Mom
    ……………………………………………..
    Zygi has a seat reserved in LA. He passed the tryout.

  45. dietrich43 says: Jun 24, 2010 9:28 PM

    If the team moves to London, does the dental plan get cancelled?

  46. floriosucksit says: Jun 24, 2010 9:30 PM

    Paris is the best option.
    It’s obvious they have lost all interest in soccer.

  47. afcjags03 says: Jun 24, 2010 9:32 PM

    Aww, what’s the matter Florio? You too afraid to name Boselli as the one who keeps calling you out on twitter and you consitently ignore him? I would too though, so I can’t blame you. Anyhow…
    Kind of funny how Oakland has had just as bad attendence woes and what do you hear about the raiders issues? Nothing, zilch, nada. While the Jags certainly have their issues, the Raiders have been consistently worse for the past several years than the Jags. Looks at the numbers, the proof is in the pudding.
    The Jags will outdraw the Raiders again this year, but the focus will be on Jax and not bothe the Raiders and Jags. Why is that?
    Keeping thumping your chest Florio.

  48. Allied Biscuit says: Jun 24, 2010 9:35 PM

    and what is this bullshit that soccer has overtaken the nfl in popularity?
    i hate the media and espn’s knee jerk reactions. 91 minutes of soccer with one goal. what’s next? a 12 hour tennis match? soccer will return to it’s familiar rating in the US sports world popularity once this tournament is over: dead last.

  49. afcjags03 says: Jun 24, 2010 9:35 PM

    Also, I find it quite hilarious that no one can quote these owner as saying that, instead in remains in a state of mystery. Give me a friggin break, why don’t you stop posting what amounts to crap until you can get a credible source.
    Sloppy, poor journalism at its best here.

  50. witdog67 says: Jun 24, 2010 9:47 PM

    THe JAGS are obviously planning to move. IF they were staying in Jax, they would have drafted TEBOW in the first round, think about it?
    San Antonio makes too much sense, LA doesn’t want them , and he Bucs need all three Orlando fans stay away from us, we have our own problems in Tampa!

  51. Franchise says: Jun 24, 2010 9:50 PM

    Sorry Bob, but like we Minnesotans have told you before, the Vikings are 3rd or 4th on the LA team list.
    Enjoy the beatings your team receives for years to come.
    Also, when a team goes to LA, they will be named the Los Angeles Quake, unless the Raiders do move there.

  52. ImAManIm40 says: Jun 24, 2010 10:04 PM

    No team will come to San Antonio. Not for lack of support, but Austin is Jerreh’s territory. He won’t want another team there.

  53. theravenlives2 says: Jun 24, 2010 10:07 PM

    I don’t think that LA would change a thing about the name “Jaguars”. I think they’ll change the jerseys and logo probably but LA have taken teams in the past and not changed their names even though they make absolutely no sense in the Southern California area, such as the Lakers and Dodgers.
    _________________________________
    Wrong. After the debacle with the Tennessee Oilers (There is very little oil in Tenn) the NFL passed a rule that says when a team leaves a city it must change its name when it arrives in the new city. LA Stars, anyone?

  54. The Lord says: Jun 24, 2010 10:28 PM

    Las Vegas is a dark horse for the Jaguars new home.

  55. samh says: Jun 24, 2010 10:39 PM

    Freeman has been antagonistic to the Jaguars for years – maybe longer. I don’t believe anything he writes because he’s never shown the slightest hint of objectivity. His “I know more than everybody else because I’m triple-secret friends with all the owners” shtick has gotten really, really old.
    St. Louis has demonstrated they’re more worthy of a franchise? Really? Because until Kroenke bought that team nobody thought they were sticking around. How many thousands of seats will they have sitting empty? How many blackouts?
    Recent numbers in Tampa Bay suggest they may be 25,000 short of a sellout this season. TWENTY-FIVE THOUSAND. Orlando couldn’t possibly support an NFL franchise.

  56. rbais2 says: Jun 24, 2010 10:44 PM

    L.A. Jaguars!!!!
    Time to get Jack Nicholson and Dwayne “the Rock” Johnson in the stands!!!

  57. jahrasta311 says: Jun 24, 2010 10:45 PM

    # ampats says: June 24, 2010 8:35 PM
    Just think,
    Obama could have visited the Saints on one of his two or three visits to the region the last few months.
    ——-
    What the hell does this have to do with the president or the New Orleans Saints?
    Typical dumbass Patriot fan.

  58. bluestree says: Jun 24, 2010 11:07 PM

    As a Floridian who likes the Jacksonville area (good people, good food, good music) my two cents.
    Jacksonville is first a college football town. It’s not a real big corporate locale, so that hurts the team. And a lot of long time Dolphin fans remain Dolphin fans.
    They’ve never had a “face of the franchise” guy (Tony Boselli?). They need a superstar or two to ignite and maintain enough loyal fans. The Jags never had an all pro playmaker to build a lasting fanbase around.
    Jack Del Rio. He made the front page of the newspaper for using more water on his lawn than all but two people in the entire city. Hard to ask people to scrape to buy season tickets when the coach is literally pissing his money away. I’m sure most fans found his water bill staggering.
    If you think there was a hidden meaning in the non drafting of Tebow think again. A lot of scouts don’t think he can play in the NFL. If you thought that, would you draft him believing he’d fail? What would that get you, but egg on your face.
    Wayne Weaver does not want to move the team. Here’s an idea…Lower ticket prices. Discount the unsold tickets, give the folks that already bought them discounts on next years tickets, and fill the stadium. Being blacked out hurts long term development. Televised games is how you build your brand.
    But number one, win games! Winning fixes everything in the NFL.

  59. Deb_is_a_Giant_Squawking_Bird says: Jun 24, 2010 11:10 PM

    Allied Biscuit says:
    June 24, 2010 9:04 PM
    LA is a piece of shit city and is in prime running for a huge economic collapse. the second an nfl team goes back there, the nfl dies in popularity. ————————————————–
    Hey Allied Biscuit! Speaking of popularity, I heard you were tied for 6th place with Table Time.

  60. prophet of the light says: Jun 24, 2010 11:28 PM

    Maybe if the Jags move to LA, they can put another real team in the AFC South instead of giving Peyton Manning 3 minor league teams to play against yearly.

  61. Jaxdro says: Jun 24, 2010 11:31 PM

    Lol. Florio is a joke along with Freeman who is always been predujice. Here it is without the sugar coating. Do the jags need to sell more tickets? Yes of course much like other franchises i.e. Tamba Bay. Would Tebow sold more tickets? Some but not many, a franchise will never be built on one player and don’t give me your Manning and Brady crap. This city and this team are one. This city is buzzing over this team but national media doesn’t see it cause they need an attention grabber to sell there articles. NOT ONE JAGS GAME WILL BE BLACKED OUT THIS YEAR LETS HEAR THE REST OF THE LEAGUE SAY THAT!!! Freeman’s next article Lawrence Taylor is innocent!

  62. Karl says: Jun 24, 2010 11:34 PM

    No matter how much a move makes sense or how much the numbers show the truth, Jags fans will always close their eyes, click their heels and believe that there’s no place like home. They would rather fight you to the death on a message board than buy a ticket.
    The fact of the matter is Jacksonville is the biggest, most boring city in the country and if it wasn’t for the Jaguars hardly anyone would even know where it is. How lame is a city that can’t get up and drive 15 minutes to the stadium? How lame is a fan base that won’t buy some of the cheapest season tickets in the league? If you’re a Jags fan and you haven’t taken part in Teal Deals or the 30/30 plan, you might as well be first in line to kiss the team goodbye.

  63. Mike_in_Texas says: Jun 24, 2010 11:55 PM

    WILL THAT PUT EM IN THE AFC WEST?
    SINCE KC IS CLOSER TO INDY(6HRS)
    KC GOES TO THE AFC SOUTH.

  64. Ufanforreal says: Jun 24, 2010 11:56 PM

    # Jaxdro says: June 24, 2010 11:31 PM
    Lol. Florio is a joke along with Freeman who is always been predujice. Here it is without the sugar coating. Do the jags need to sell more tickets? Yes of course much like other franchises i.e. Tamba Bay. Would Tebow sold more tickets? Some but not many, a franchise will never be built on one player and don’t give me your Manning and Brady crap. This city and this team are one. This city is buzzing over this team but national media doesn’t see it cause they need an attention grabber to sell there articles.# Jaxdro says: June 24, 2010 11:31 PM
    Lol. Florio is a joke along with Freeman who is always been predujice. Here it is without the sugar coating. Do the jags need to sell more tickets? Yes of course much like other franchises i.e. Tamba Bay. Would Tebow sold more tickets? Some but not many, a franchise will never be built on one player and don’t give me your Manning and Brady crap. This city and this team are one. This city is buzzing over this team but national media doesn’t see it cause they need an attention grabber to sell there articles. NOT ONE JAGS GAME WILL BE BLACKED OUT THIS YEAR LETS HEAR THE REST OF THE LEAGUE SAY THAT!!! Freeman’s next article Lawrence Taylor is innocent!
    LETS HEAR THE REST OF THE LEAGUE SAY THAT!!! Freeman’s next article Lawrence Taylor is innocent!
    —————————————————-
    “NOT ONE JAGS GAME WILL BE BLACKED OUT THIS YEAR”……. why is Weaver going to buy the unsold tickets………again.

  65. Dirka28 says: Jun 25, 2010 12:05 AM

    Would love to see Baltimore and Pittsburgh move to the AFC south and have Houston and Jacksonville moved to another Division. Indy, Balt, Pitts, and Tenn, in one division could lead to some very interesting football.

  66. salty says: Jun 25, 2010 12:55 AM

    The only way the Jaguars are moving to LA is if the
    Chargers don’t get the vote for a new stadium. If they don’t, then the Chargers will be in LA. They already have a lot of fans there and it’s 100 miles away. I live in San Diego and would not mind the drive. Also the Chargers can opt out of they’re lease in 2011.

  67. Brownwood26 says: Jun 25, 2010 5:13 AM

    Emotional attachment aside, I don’t get why this is soooo hard to believe for Jags fans. I mean, really…15 years later I still can’t believe the NFL gave Jacksonville a new franchise over Baltimore. That move was mind-numbingly stupid then and it looks even worse now.
    So think of your Jags like a pet…be glad you had it for 15 years and cherish the good times. Cuz it’s sick and about to be put down…

  68. afcjags03 says: Jun 25, 2010 7:34 AM

    Child please Karl. I thinkmost fans are pretty realistic about the situation here. When hacks like Floria, well he’s the only one, consistently harp on the issue, it gets rather old and outdated. It turns more into a hate brigade more so than reporting the news.
    I really wouldn’t worry until the first game gets blacked out, if one does. There is still plenty of time left. The sheep will be sheep though and will cry. Keep flaming Florio.

  69. aj says: Jun 25, 2010 7:46 AM

    San Antonio? Over Jerry’s stretched face. Despite being a large city, it’s base is tourism and military plus the corporate base is very small [ compare Fortune 500’s in SA vs. Houston and DFW area].
    The Alamodome is substandard for the NFL – it’s basically another Metrodome with it’s cramped seating areas and concourses – so there’s no team going there without a new stadium and that ain’t happenin. It’s good enough for a few emergency games or exhibition games but nowhere close to being NFL caliber on a sustainable basis.
    Pretty obvious that it’s Jax or MN to LA. A Jax move to LA could put the Jags in the NFC West and move the Rams to the AFC South,
    http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2009/states/TX.html

  70. Alfie says: Jun 25, 2010 7:54 AM

    I think it has more to do with the fact that you keep insisting drafting Tim Tebow would sell out the stadium.

  71. ErikInHell says: Jun 25, 2010 8:00 AM

    Brownwood26, it’s like I said earlier, art model was on the expansion committee. Between model and his plans to move, and jack kent cook not wanting competition and a new staduim, they stopped baltiwhore from getting an expansion team. In 95 when the jaguars came into being and art model announced the move, he and cook had already leveraged lottery money and taxes to build two stadiums in MD.

  72. Alfie says: Jun 25, 2010 8:02 AM

    Here’s an idea…Lower ticket prices. Discount the unsold tickets, give the folks that already bought them discounts on next years tickets, and fill the stadium. Being blacked out hurts long term development. Televised games is how you build your brand.
    They’re already some of the cheapest in the NFL. You can get a season ticket for $300.
    Discounting un-sold tickets is asking for a PR shit storm.
    Ticket prices are not an issue. Stop it.

  73. theravenlives2 says: Jun 25, 2010 8:04 AM

    NOT ONE JAGS GAME WILL BE BLACKED OUT THIS YEAR LETS HEAR THE REST OF THE LEAGUE SAY THAT!!!
    ——————————————-
    Dude, this is what you and the apologists don’t get. No blackouts is the EXPECTATION in the NFL. My team plays in the AFC North. ALL the teams have no blackouts (OK, occasionally Cincinnati, but not often)!! Same with the NFC East, three teams in the AFC East, most of the teams in the NFC North, etc…etc. Now we’re gonna hear about how Jacksonville is such a small market with no major corportaions, blah, blah, blah. You have a fan base that has probably the cheapest tickets in the NFL and STILL can’t sell out. I just hope the team is in Jacksonville next year when the Ravens play there. It’s an easy flight from Baltimore, and getting tickets sure as hell doesn’t seem to be a problem!

  74. theravenlives2 says: Jun 25, 2010 8:08 AM

    Would love to see Baltimore and Pittsburgh move to the AFC south and have Houston and Jacksonville moved to another Division. Indy, Balt, Pitts, and Tenn, in one division could lead to some very interesting football.
    ———————————————-
    I always thought my Ravens should have been in the AFC South in the first place. This is an interesting idea, but it’ll never happen. The league would never seperate Cleveland and Pittsburgh. We used to have an epic rivalry with the Titans, and I really miss that!

  75. theravenlives2 says: Jun 25, 2010 8:10 AM

    Emotional attachment aside, I don’t get why this is soooo hard to believe for Jags fans. I mean, really…15 years later I still can’t believe the NFL gave Jacksonville a new franchise over Baltimore. That move was mind-numbingly stupid then and it looks even worse now.
    ===============================
    Great post! Couldn’t agree with you more! This move again shows wat a “genius” Paul Tagliabue was!

  76. Marty says: Jun 25, 2010 8:22 AM

    First of all Freeman didn’t say other owners favor Jags move. He says he HEARD that other owners favor a Jags move. That means that no owner told him that. It also means that someone could have told him that THEY heard it. In fact, someone could have simply made it up. All Freeman says is that he heard it from someone else.
    Secondly, if and when the Jags sell enough tickets to avoid blackouts this year, and some other team like the Bucs has blackouts this year, as they have already announced they probably will, when that happens, will Florio start an “LA Bucs” or “London Bucs” theme and run with that one until it dies also?
    Why are we picking on the Jags here? There were other teams that sold fewer tickets than the Jaguars in 2009. Like the Raiders. So why aren’t the Raiders moving back to LA?
    There’s an idea for you, Florio. The rumor mill strikes again… “I hear the other owners favor the Raiders moving to LA.” Of course, you heard it on your own message board, but what does that matter? All you care about is eyeballs so you can sell advertisements.

  77. Jagz says: Jun 25, 2010 8:41 AM

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp…4937-2004Jan9?
    Puffed-Up Risumi Costs Sportswriter a New Job
    By Howard Kurtz
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Saturday, January 10, 2004; Page C04
    A longtime New York Times sportswriter who left to join the Indianapolis Star has resigned from his new job after admitting that he falsified his résumé.
    Mike Freeman, who covered professional football and basketball and did investigative reporting at the Times, apologized for telling the Star that he was a graduate of the University of Delaware. He said he attended the school for four years but did not graduate.
    “These were lies,” Freeman, 37, said in a statement posted on the Web site SportsPages.com. He added: “This was a terrible and unforgivable manipulation of the facts. . . . It was the only time I have told such falsehoods and no other deceptions have ever appeared in any of my newspaper stories or two books at any time in my 16 years of practicing journalism. Nevertheless, the information I gave the Star was wrong and I will be punished with the loss of my newspaper career.”
    Star Editor Dennis Ryerson said in an interview yesterday that he had accepted the resignation, although this was “a bit awkward” because Freeman had not yet started his job as a columnist.
    “The message is, he will not be working at the Star,” he said. “I’m very sorry about the way it turned out.” Ryerson added that a college degree is not required to work at the Star, and in fact, he does not have one.
    Ryerson disclosed the news to readers through the paper’s Web site yesterday afternoon.
    Freeman worked for The Washington Post in 1988 and again from 1990 to 1992, covering pro football. He has also written for the Dallas Morning News and Boston Globe. Freeman is the author of “Bloody Sundays: Inside the Dazzling, Rough-and-Tumble World of the NFL,” published last year, and the 2000 book “ESPN: The Uncensored History.”
    In July, he reported for the Times on allegations of academic misconduct involving Ohio State running back Maurice Clarett.
    In his statement, Freeman said “there are no excuses or alibis” for misrepresenting his résumé. “This is my fault and my fault alone. Most of all, I have hurt and disappointed close friends and family, particularly my wife, and for this I am truly sorry. I also want to apologize to the Star.”

  78. Jagz says: Jun 25, 2010 8:42 AM

    wxwax says:
    June 24, 2010 8:03 PM
    Jagz, you should be banned for that post.
    You’re crossing the line.
    If you can’t take the heat Mike, get the f_ck out of the kitchen.

  79. Marty says: Jun 25, 2010 8:53 AM

    Theravenlives2,
    I agree that sellouts should be the norm. And the Jags are having a problem. But we are dealing with it. Our ticket sales are way up this year.
    What I want to ask you is, why don’t you apply the same standard to the Bucs and Raiders who are having worse ticket sales issues than the Jaguars?
    When the Jaguars have no blackouts this year and the Bucs have multiple blackouts, will we all be calling for the Bucs to move to LA? Why the double standard?
    I don’t want anybody to move. And I would think in your case, as a citizen of a city that lost a franchise that sneaked out of town in the middle of the night, you wouldn’t want anyone to move, either.

  80. Jagmankane says: Jun 25, 2010 9:51 AM

    I guess we’re bound to have a “Jags to LA” post every week, eh?
    Keep on hatin.
    Jags are stayin. You can bet your bottom dollar.

  81. GoIggles says: Jun 25, 2010 9:57 AM

    London Shaguars! Nicely done Florio! Yeah Baby!

  82. HC says: Jun 25, 2010 11:14 AM

    Why would you want a team in both Orlando and in Tampa Bay? It wouldn’t improve the Jaguars attendance, and at the same time hurt the Bucs attendance. If the theory is ‘the end of the small market experiment’, then Orlando doesn’t come close to qualifying as a destination.

  83. jaxdoc says: Jun 25, 2010 8:23 PM

    Mike,
    Congratulations you are becoming the “US Magazine” of the NFL, that women love to read.
    You have traded in journalism for throwing a bunch of crap rumors up to pad your wallet.

  84. Dogsweat says: Jun 25, 2010 9:06 PM

    Why Jax does not deserve a NFL team:
    Read what these residents of Jax did….
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3029689/Baby-bong-pic-sparks-fury.html#ixzz0rrsGMez2
    This the lowest.
    Jags get the heck out of that “Deliverence” City.

  85. rider-x says: Jun 26, 2010 10:06 AM

    whats wrong with that. We like to party here in North Florida

  86. Bious says: Jun 28, 2010 3:33 PM

    The Jags had their chance and failed miserably trying to support a team
    Their team has never even been that bad yet their city has completely abandoned them when their players are good and their prices are not that bad
    Good riddence…move them to a new place that will actually support them

  87. jibfest says: Jun 28, 2010 6:52 PM

    “The L.A. or California Spenders”, since the state is so broke due to over spending. That is what happens to a liberal “utopia”. Also the governor is a repub in name only.

  88. darren5280 says: Jul 16, 2010 4:40 PM

    Keep the Jags in FL and don’t steal from MN again. BRING THE RAMS BACK TO LA WHERE THEY BELONG!

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