Three years ago, Redskins cornerback DeAngelo Hall and others accepted Mike Vick’s denials of dogfighting allegations at face value, and Hall and others continued to defend Vick even after he rewarded their blind faith in him by eventually pleading guilty.
So it’s no surprise that Hall has assumed an early leadership role when it comes to making excuses for Vick this time around. After pointing out via his Twitter page that he wasn’t at the party that ended with the shooting of former Vick associate Quanis Phillips, Hall says, “I would also caution people from making statements and accusations
before all the details have come out. I support Mike and everything
positive he is doing in the community. Thank you.”
But this isn’t about whether Vick pulled a Pacman Jones and asked someone else to take a shot at Phillips. The mere fact that Vick and Phillips spent time in the same zip code represents evidence of the kind of recklessness that got Vick into trouble in the first place.
He’s on federal probation, and he’s banned from associating with his former associates in Bad Newz Kennels, including Quanis Phillips.
This isn’t just an issue of federal probation. Upon reinstating Vick last July, Commissioner Roger Goodell specifically informed Vick that “you are required to abide
by the terms of the supervised release that were imposed on you by the
court, which include not committing any further crime, limits on who
you may associate with, prohibitions regarding alcohol and drug use, possession of a firearm or other dangerous weapon, and forbidding you
to own, possess or be involved with the sale of any dog.”
So the issue isn’t whether Vick arranged for Phillips to be shot. The question is whether Vick violated the plain terms of his probation and/or his reinstatement by: (1) seeing Quanis Phillips; and (2) not immediately sprinting in the opposite direction.
Meanwhile, it’s hard to accept Hall’s admonition to refrain from making “statements and accusations” until “all the details have come out.” Already, it appears that the justice-obstructing cultural phenomenon that discourages “snitching” has kicked into high gear, making it virtually impossible for any details to come out.
Regardless, the most important details from Vick perspective relate to compliance, or lack thereof, with the requirement for residing among the free — and for getting paid millions to play a game. Based on the initial media reports, it’s not looking good.
Hall is another a-hole. Players need to condemn the bad behavior of other players, not enable them and act like its nothing.
DeAngelo Hall is a loser…by birth and by choice
we’re listening to MEangelo Hall??
If Vick gets out of this position he should quit football and become a magician.
Who cares?
Florio sorry but Goodell doesn’t read your internet opinions. LOL…you’re just a blogger that represents the AWM’s.
How is he supposed to avoid this turd if he shows up unannouced. Maybe the fight broke out cause this duesch bag just showed up…
Dont let your DinGle DanGle… DanGle in the Dirt….
Its absolutely unreal….black guys will stick up for & make up excuses other black guys even if they are 100% guilty….i hope Goodell bans him for life.
The sun also rises in the east. What do you expect?
He’s also one that is lucky he wasn’t brought into the dog fighting investigation. Just another piece of shit.
Why is Vick throwing a birthday party at age 30? How mature….What can you get a millionaire that he can’t get for himself, exlcuding another prison sentence?
Cue comedian Patton Oswalt’s take on birthdays:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJnCHy0p6n4
If dude showed up unannounced & Vick didn’t pull the trigger…. what are you gonna do??
It’s a public establishment??
I have a feeling this dude was trying to create trouble where he was not welcome. Why does Vick have to “sprint” in the opposite direction at his own party??
Like D Hall said… wait for the facts…
I just wonder why you can’t have a “hip-hop” party without guns.
In Vick’s defense he did shoot the guy and run when he showed up. Definitely a sincere effort to avoid association.
Just a spoiled clown standing up for another spoiled clown.
So if anyone is to listen to Deanglo”the unibrow” caution people from making statements and accusations before all the details have come out, then no oen shoudl call Ben a rapist since he was never charged or arrested! Ben is innocent, Vick is guilty!
They said the party was for Vick. Who attends a party that is being held for you?, your friends and people that are close to you. What does it say about the people that are close to you if at the party one of them decides to shoot a person because they end up in each others faces. Add in the person shoot is a person that Vick is to not be around per terms of his probation and the NFL and it tells one all one needs to know in just how much Vick trys to tell others that he has learned.
Deangelo Hall….didn’t he used to play football? It’s amazing that Hall himself has managed to stay out of trouble.
tony325 says:
June 25, 2010 4:44 PM
“I just wonder why you can’t have a “hip-hop” party without guns.”
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Because a “hip-hop” party with straws/spitballs or water balloons or…
would just be silly.
How can one be “hard” wielding say, a SuperSoaker(TM)?
AWM’s you shouldn’t let Florio use you like this. ROFLMAO….he’s just building up your hopes. LOL
Snnyjcbs….
You’re an idiot. The party was being thrown for Vick at it club. It is advertised on radio stations and on the internet as it also boost the patrons in attendence. Don’t believe me? Lux lounge in DC.
http://www.luxloungedc.com/main.html
Tonight it a party for a NNO Saint and a bunch of other players will be there. They are paid by the promoters to be seen there.
These birthday parties are just another revenue stream.
I am by no means a Vick apologist (can’t stand him, the Eagles or Tech), but if Quanis Phillips rolled in there uninvited perhaps Vick (or his friends) told him to get out because Vick could get into trouble for being with him. Phillips is looking for trouble (as his record shows) and decides to start a fight. Guys get thrown out, Phillips gets shot. Its not the way I would handle the situation, but that doesnt mean it didnt happen this way. Its not outside the rhelm of possibility that Vick might actually be innocent in this one.
And how does one reach DeAngelo on planet DeAngelo?
Football1717 says:
June 25, 2010 4:44 PM
Its absolutely unreal….black guys will stick up for & make up excuses other black guys even if they are 100% guilty….i hope Goodell bans him for life
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Agreed, because Hall and Vick represent all black guys.
You know all the priests who were screwing little boys while the pope looked the other way are white. Hmmm…. does that make you a pedophile or a sympathizer?
There were cameras and video phones everywhere. The incident will be on all the blogs tommorrow. That’s not too long to withhold judgement.
I just don’t get it. Why do all these players always go to clubs or have birthday parties at the club.
I mean, i get it. You have attractive, trashy, easy women, over priced alcohol, crazy covers (unless you’re famous then you get in for free), and loud music that allows you to scream in the face of anyone you talk to so they can hear you.
I guess inviting people over to your house that you’ve probably paid millions of dollars for makes too much sense.
Who cares Vick sucks anyway. He should not be a QB he is only good for running the ball…well not anymore he is old now and not as fast and when you put Vick in everyone knows what you are going to do the gay “wild cat”. Which includes Vick running not throwing the ball (because he cant) lol.
Hall is a tool and sounds almost as stupid as Clinton Portis did when he defended Vick.
“DeAngelo Hall stands up for Vick, again.”
The modern age Humpty and Dumpty.
“I would also caution people from making statements and accusations before all the details have come out. I support Mike and everything positive he is doing in the community. Thank you.”
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usually I jump all over MeAngelo too for his big mouth but I fail to see the big deal.
“dont make statements and accusations before all details come out” – dont jump to conclusions and speak on shit you dont know about. FLORIO!!
“I support everything POSITIVE he is doing in the community” – me too. I support anything positive that anyone does for the community. That doesnt mean he is supporting or backing up Vick in this issue.
Quote: “I support Mike and everything positive he is doing in the community”
Is Vick actually doing something positive in the community? I mean, besides community service – that includes the “yeah, I did dog fighting, but you shouldn’t” speeches he gives.
People seem to drum up that aspect of his life, but I can find no evidence of it. Anyone?
He raped her.
Oh, wait…
I thought this post was about Rapistberger.
My bad…
Deangelo Hall (who), T.O. Pacman, Michael Irvin, Michael Vick, Ray Lewis, Ray Carruth, etc. etc. etc…….what do all these hoods have in common? You guessed it!!
This post is about Rapistberger. He commissioned Quanis Phillips to go to Vick’s party to take the spotlight off of his raping ways.
“The mere fact that Vick and Phillips spent time in the same zip code represents evidence of the kind of recklessness that got Vick into trouble in the first place.”
That is the most profound statement made in this article. Never mind whether or not people feel he has paid his dues to society, the fact that he even still associates with Phillips is grounds enough to question whether he actually understands what he did wrong in the first place… Very sad, because I think he understands he did something wrong–he may not really understand what it is exactly, but he seems to want to do what it takes to begin the healing process…..but does he really get it ???
Shocker
De Angelo Hall; the Master of putting his foot in his mouth.
@muchmaligned
Best f’n post ever!!!
Deangelo Hall has proven himself to be a fool or a liar on behalf of Michael Vick, so why should this time be any different?
Polishkingski, you are waaaay out of line—Florio, how do you even publish that post?
I agree with eshine. What if Phillips shows up and Vick bails, then the posse takes matters into their own hands??? What if???
I am just an NFL loving Canadian and NOT a big fan of Vicks., but all you haters are something else.
Go away and preach your hatred and bigotry somewhere else. Vick’s skin color had nothing to do with this.
The worst he is guilty of (so far) is going to a famous strip club where I am sure more than a few felons are in attendance which also breaks his parole.
Great so now Mike is guilty because this guy showed up at his party. All you punks and losers get a grip.
I’m thinking DeAngelo was killing dogs as well.
Why do people need to put De or La in front of names? Like DeAngelo or LaMarcus. Whats wrong with just Angelo or Marcus? The crazy things some people do. I don’t get it.
If twitter helped your covering skills, Hall would be a champ. You go Hall!!!
muchmaligned: thanks I couldnt have said it any better I was think to myself when I read that White peple have been stickin up for each other for yrs remember white folks your guys are 1000 times more corupt than black people u guys just have the law on your sides, so u feel entitled to everything I Guess when they see rich black atheletes mss up they wish sports never allowed us to playbut sports would be ABSOLUTELY BORING,if we didnt play them. Mike Vick most likly told someone to remove him never sayinggo out and shout tis punk, i can see the hillips guys getting upset over being thrown out and that lead to shooting take it from a black guy who has some idea on what othe black guys think im sure thats the case cause im sure he dont wanna go back to prison!!!!
tony325 says:
June 25, 2010 4:44 PM
If dude showed up unannounced & Vick didn’t pull the trigger…. what are you gonna do??
It’s a public establishment??
I have a feeling this dude was trying to create trouble where he was not welcome. Why does Vick have to “sprint” in the opposite direction at his own party??
Like D Hall said… wait for the facts…
I just wonder why you can’t have a “hip-hop” party without guns.
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As probably informed by his PORBATION OFFICER, all Vick should and could have done (as a CONVICTED FELON on PROBATION) was get on the phone and call the po-po.
If there is no recording on the 9-1-1 system with Vick calling them…and he was in the same building…he’s done.
Has there ever been a “never was” to make as much money and hang around so long in the NFL? This guy is a joke of a QB and an even bigger joke of a person. Too bad that bullet didn’t find HIS worthless ass.. Lifetime ban and back to jail felon. Society will be much better for it.
You are who you associate with. In this case it’s an equally damning statement for everyone in attendance.
I don’t understand all the racist comments (particularly you polishkingski… go die in a fire). Whenever white people commit horrible crimes there isn’t a huge outcry about the “white menace”.
I hate Mike Vick as much as anyone but not because he’s black. Some of you people are monsters and I feel sorry for anyone that has to associate with you people in person.
Race does not matter to me, if you rape women or murder dogs you need to be permanently removed from society.
whats racist about saying he is a dumb freaking ninny?
Theguy that got shot probably saw a flier for the party n decided to crash it
I understand… wait for the facts… what ever, too early to fry the man… yet it’s been almost 24 hours, nobodys talkin yet, it’s the hood so some shit will come out in like a month or so,
BUT
What I want to know is, what about Marvin Harrison? He shot a guy (about 2 yrs ago) and when the guy didn’t die he had him killed (about 7 mos ago)… He freakin told the cops he had the gun that fired the bullets… hello? they took footage from outside MH’s bar (playmakers) and the only part of the survelience tape that was erased was the 10 or so minutes it took for MH to grab his gun and shoot this bama… Philly DA didn’t want to prosecute, it was an election year or some shit… what’s he doin? oh he’s so great in the community or what ever, yeah MH is a NFLer and the other guy is a drugdealer, but a low level one… some guy that used to drink at his bar daily…. something is not right there
yet you want to convict Vick already… I am 100% not a vick fan… personally (and this is before all the dogfighting bs) I think he’s an A-HOLE.
HAIL SKINS!
oh yeah and DHALL, shut up, please
someone tell The Danny that this guy is a moron… why’d we sign him for 50 mil or what ever? we could of got a real CB with that kind of dough… (revis, ndsomugh (sp?) or one of the cromartie’s) I mean don’t get me wrong, DHALL’s not horrible but he’s not where he was his first few seasons with ATL, but he’s def better than when in Oak… I mean I do like the guy (VT) but just shut up…. and someone go tell CP26 to shut up before he says something stupid again… thanks!
HAIL SKINS!
I am neither a Vick or MeAngelo apologist (although a Skins fan)…but what’s wrong with what Hall said? From what I’ve read, he said wait until the facts come out before making up your mind. What if the facts come out and Vick is not to blame? Will all haters and people making mass generalizations apologize for their preemptive and ignorant diatribes? Even if Vick was in the wrong, its not bad to remind people to wait until the facts are clear before making up your mind.
That said, if I were Hall or a professional athlete, I would just steer clear of any talk that has nothing to do with me. Period.
lol all yall people thats bashing vick and hall are sad and need to lord in ur life. now hate an bash me. how can u judge him with out knowing the storie how can u even hate some one you dnt know. i bet most of the hate to hall and vick are from bitter poor white folks. am not racist but i see yall are no ones said anything when big ben got hit with rape not once but two times come on. once again how can u hate someone you never meet in ur life. yall just mad because he’s making mills and ur making nothing or dnt even have a job its sad. 90% of yall that are hating vick and hall have no money no life so you get on the blogs and down people and look for these types of blogs to bash blks because you dnt feel good about urself. yall act like vick should not be doing nothing why can he have a bday party at a club why cant he have fun why can he play football because he had dog fights lol i bet some of yall fools have hit ur wack A** women iin ur life but ur still working if u have a job so just because he had dog fights and killed dogs he should be put to death never work again well not football lol every one gets a chance to for fix thier life. not one of yall fools no what vick does or what he was doing he might not have even seen the guy in the building or new anything about him being thier until the shootinh went down but yall want to throw him under the bus. all u hater’s are sad
An another thing what dose hiphop have to do with anything. hiphop dose not kill people hiphop does not pull the trigger people do. and dnt say what they say in the songs gets people amped up to pull thier guns out drinking and pride is what gets triggers pulled. white poeple do the same things you just never hear about it real talk. am sorry but white media see a blk man with money they think hey this is a good time i get to bash the blks. its sad you people find the person guilty be4 you even have the full storie sad
lol, didn’t you mean lol@yallfools?
you must be a foll too
lol@yallfolls says:
June 26, 2010 7:21 AM
lol@yallfolls says:
June 26, 2010 7:27 AM
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could someone please translate?
lol@yallfolls,
Um, we don’t speak illiteracy.
“and need to lord in ur life.” You need education in your life.
smh@Football1717
Its absolutely unreal….black guys will stick up for & make up excuses other black guys even if they are 100% guilty….i hope Goodell bans him for life.
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Yeah “white guys” never do that.