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Saints call rumors of White House visit delay "crap"

On Thursday, we pointed out the fact that the Saints had not yet visited the White House in the wake of their Super Bowl victory.

We also shared rumors that the delay had resulted from owner Tom Benson’s political leanings, and that coach Sean Payton insisted that the team attend.

Saints V.P. of communications Greg Bensel told Jeff Duncan of the New Orleans Times-Picayune that the rumor is “crap.”

“Mr. Benson is excited for our visit to the White House,” Bensel told Duncan, adding that Benson is “not only eager to attend the White House celebration but is also eager to get the 2010 season started.”

Bensel also tells Duncan that the visit, which will occur in conjunction with an August 12 preseason game, has been scheduled “for months.” 

Still, it’s odd that the team would distract from training camp and the preseason to swing by D.C. for a belated pat on the back from the President.  It would have made much more sense to do it during a lull in offseason workouts or at any point before, you know, the 2010 season officially launches.

There’s another tangible reason not to celebrate a Super Bowl championship once the quest for the next title has commenced.  How in the world do the Saints expect their players to forget about last year’s success and focus on this year’s challenges if they’re going to allow their victory lap from February extend into the new season?

So either Bensel is protecting Benson — or the Saints made “months” ago a very bad decision to sniff the fumes of their first championship weeks after the time comes to focus exclusively on going after their second one.

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  1. jersey73 says: Jun 26, 2010 11:15 AM

    Maybe the Saints don’t want to make more visits to the coast of the Potomac than Obama has made to the Gulf Coast of Louisiana???

  2. cside3 says: Jun 26, 2010 11:19 AM

    New Orleans just can’t catch a break. First it was Katrina, then the BP spill, and now Florio just can’t stop bashing us.

  3. shaggeez says: Jun 26, 2010 11:19 AM

    boy, you sure jump quick from criticizing his politics to criticizing when they scheduled it. why does it bother you? theyre probably not going to repeat anyways so who cares

  4. dsheik says: Jun 26, 2010 11:27 AM

    who gives a shit.

  5. philwauke says: Jun 26, 2010 11:27 AM

    Or it can get them fired up at an otherwise mundane time.

  6. 4ever19 says: Jun 26, 2010 11:27 AM

    Excuse me while I pretend to care. Visits to the White House are such shams and such cliches that I can’t believe anyone would get worked up about it. If I were a player, I wouldn’t want to go – and I voted for Obama.

  7. bronco1st says: Jun 26, 2010 11:31 AM

    I’ll bet Florio was the type to eat all his Halloween candy by the next day.

  8. Martin Keamy says: Jun 26, 2010 11:33 AM

    jersey73…not to be political here but…check your facts my good sir.
    To date… I can think of at least four specific Mr.President visits since the spill.
    But I suppose you’ll choose to listen to Glenn Beck or Sean Hannity before actually looking at the actual photos of him picking up actual oil on the actual Gulf Shore that actually do exist.
    But the ‘Aints and New Orleans can’t catch a break. They’re a rival of my team and I feel for the whole gulf coast but specifically the people of The Louisiana Coast – the fortunes of that coast are like watching a Raiders game. Just when you think it can’t get worse it does.

  9. saintboblsu says: Jun 26, 2010 11:33 AM

    It makes sense to me. They were already going to be in the neighborhood for a preseason game. Why make another trip up there and take up more time during an already shortened offseason. Instead Payton can use it as one of his ‘training camp adventures’
    Talk about making something of nothing…

  10. MunichEagles says: Jun 26, 2010 11:34 AM

    Yeah the president plans his shedule around the saints.

  11. rayray1284 says: Jun 26, 2010 11:34 AM

    the white house has no love for new orleans. we learned that after katrina

  12. MinnWhoDat says: Jun 26, 2010 11:54 AM

    Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy journalism on Florio’s part. There was an article weeks ago about the timing of the Saint’s visit stating it was being coordinated with the Patriot’s preseason game trip. Doesn’t he know how to google or the phone to check out his “facts”

  13. Archie Who? says: Jun 26, 2010 11:55 AM

    If there’s a post slurping the Vikings or bashing the team than ended their season last year, you don’t even have to look to know that Florio wrote it.
    Click on through folks. Nothing to see here.

  14. jersey73 says: Jun 26, 2010 11:56 AM

    @Martin Keamy…lighten up Francis

  15. Deegizzle says: Jun 26, 2010 11:58 AM

    Never before have I seen a team’s post Super Bowl championship off-season more unwarrantedly scrutinized than I have this year… Geesh

  16. Randomjim says: Jun 26, 2010 11:58 AM

    Martin Keamy says:
    June 26, 2010 11:33 AM
    jersey73…not to be political here but…check your facts my good sir.
    To date… I can think of at least four specific Mr.President visits since the spill.
    ————————————————————
    How many times has he gone golfing in that time.
    Obami appologist.

  17. jgreen1570 says: Jun 26, 2010 12:00 PM

    This is such ridiculous rumor mongering. It makes perfect sense to go in August when they are in the area. Move along, you clearly missed on this one.

  18. RaiderChile says: Jun 26, 2010 12:15 PM

    Starting to dislike this team all toghether. The owner is a jerk and the coach too!

  19. stan26 says: Jun 26, 2010 12:19 PM

    Did any team in recent memory not go at some point?

  20. Junior says: Jun 26, 2010 12:19 PM

    Aren’t these things contingent on you know… the President’s schedule. Pretty sure the Saints don’t have too much control over when they visit. Never mind using common sense though huh Florio.

  21. edgy1957 says: Jun 26, 2010 12:20 PM

    # jersey73 says:
    Maybe the Saints don’t want to make more visits to the coast of the Potomac than Obama has made to the Gulf Coast of Louisiana???
    ******************
    I have to wonder what world you live in because even Fox has shown Obama visiting the area. Of course, you could be a Ditto Head and that would explain it.

  22. TexasBubba says: Jun 26, 2010 12:27 PM

    Could it possibly be that President Obama has more pressing issues to address than entertaining the Super Bowl champs? DUH!

  23. JackDiesel says: Jun 26, 2010 12:32 PM

    @rayray1284, don’t forget their delayed response to the oil spill. The government only would fund 1 of the 60 proposed temporary sand islands to help protect the coast of Louisiana. And I think their reply was delayed by 2 weeks when it was already too late.
    If this rumor was started by Florio, then does Florio = crap?

  24. EaglesFan83 says: Jun 26, 2010 12:34 PM

    Florio you’re a joke of a writer. No where is it cited that they said “crap”. It’s something you made up to get more hits. You make this site a joke.

  25. scomibord says: Jun 26, 2010 12:41 PM

    Apparently you never tire of making idiotic assumptions.

  26. iusedtobeteddybayer says: Jun 26, 2010 12:48 PM

    No story here. Yankees waited, too.

  27. GregO says: Jun 26, 2010 12:48 PM

    Who knows it may actually motivate the team.
    A couple years ago you thought it was stupid for the Giants to be running their mouths before the Super Bowl v the Patriots. As I recall you changed your tune about that one too.

  28. honeysuckle says: Jun 26, 2010 1:02 PM

    Florio has never ever gotten over the Vikings loss to the Saints. So he sits in his little cave somewhere each day trying desperately to come up with something negative (or a lie) to write about the Saints. Investigative reporting is a concept that is completely beyond Florio’s grasp… he is of the school of ‘let’s throw some crap out there & see what riles them up…then run with it.”
    since the Saints stated what he wrote was crap, he decided to pontificate on why he doesn’t like the actual facts of the story.

  29. robmart0906 says: Jun 26, 2010 1:05 PM

    @cside3
    since when do you guys care what florio thinks about you?

  30. frostymugobeer says: Jun 26, 2010 1:19 PM

    or maybe… it’s one of the first signs that teams are being more fiscally resposible.
    if you have to fly 100 people to dc in a couple months anyway,why NOT save a few hundred grand and kill 2 birds with one stone ?
    makes a whole hell of alot of sense to me.
    as for the “distraction” of a white house visit in the preseason….that’s too funny.
    if nothing else it will remind the team of just how special it is to win a superbowl and remind them to work even harder this year.
    these are professional atheletes not starry eyed
    kids who are gonna get “caught up in” thinking they have arrived because they get to see the oval office……geez louise

  31. PurpleNGold says: Jun 26, 2010 1:22 PM

    It’s raining oil on the gulf coast. The more volatile components of crude oil have evaporated along with the water and have condensed with the water that falls as rain. For real.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqPF9dtCc9g

  32. Djaehne says: Jun 26, 2010 1:48 PM

    The president has much to much to do than worry about congradulations to the Saints org.
    Why, he’s still working on how to suck every dime from every major corp. so he can…uh,
    what exactly does he do with all those taxes….
    oh yeah, fight the rights of states so illegal aliens can become dumbasscratic voters to perpetuate the loss of most American rights to privacy. Silly crap like that, but you idiots that don’t pay attention and or just don’t care because you live
    from paycheck to paycheck can’t possibly loose anymore, right… hahaha keep telling yourself that.

  33. Who is Mike Jones says: Jun 26, 2010 1:59 PM

    Isn’t the president busy making all of those changes that he promised? By the way, hows that change working out for us?
    Isn’t Obama too busy to mingle with the Saints? Last time I checked, Obama has a full plate. The Saints shouldn’t be on the list at all.

  34. PackFaninPackLand says: Jun 26, 2010 2:04 PM

    To Martin Keamy at 11:33 AM
    “To date… I can think of at least four specific Mr.President visits since the spill.”
    ————————
    Perhaps you would like to cite “when” those four specific “Mr.President visits” to the Gulf were !
    More made-up Keith UberMoron-isms of ole B.O.
    He has, however, been on at least 2 vacations AND been out to play golf on AT LEAST 4 or 5 occassions since the spill. You see, Martin, I know golf and Gulf sound and even look similar in print, but they are not.
    Going to The Gulf, and go out TO GOLF are not the same, genius !
    Plus, maybe Bensen doesn’t want “the taint” that is the Obama presidency to wear off on what was a great Saints season. Ever consider that, hmmmm ???

  35. Ed in NJ says: Jun 26, 2010 2:10 PM

    PurpleNGold, get your head out of your ass. That’s a debunked video. Oil doesn’t evaporate, so it can’t rain oil. Is it too much to ask posters to know what they are talking about before they post their b.s? I wonder how many people you forwarded that to, thinking you were so smart and well-informed. Idiot.

  36. SimplytheBest says: Jun 26, 2010 2:50 PM

    Florio, get a life man, this is rediculous. It’s been more than several times this off season you’ve had some demeaning comments toward the SUPER BOWL WINNING TEAM, at first I just thought it was because of the shallacking we put on Favre and the Vikings that riled up your dander, but it has become more and more obvious that you appear to be on a mission to be-smudge the CHAMPIONS at every turn.
    Greg Bensel has no reason to cover up anything from anybody about any subject, should you really be concerned with when and how the Saints and White House came together with a date and time to meet, may I suggest you ask the White House about their scheduling proceedures and how that actually works, instead of “assuming” some disrespect of the administration from Tom Benson.
    Let it go, the Vikings lost, they lost, do you get it, they lost, get over it and yourself for once and the next time you want to “create a story”, try at least learning the facts before you twist them into some unrecognizable diatribe not fit for animal consumption.
    I wipe my arse with this load of crap paper that you are turning this on line mag into.
    Friggin freak, the Vikings LOST…get it.

  37. william sizemore says: Jun 26, 2010 2:51 PM

    The question should be why do you think its any of your business as to why they are going to the WH other when you think they should go. Its a good thing that you don’t PRACTICE law anymore. Bill

  38. whodat?? says: Jun 26, 2010 2:55 PM

    So i posted this at the end of the other thread about this too but here it is again.. the saints have planned to go to the white house as part of their preseason practice/game with the new england patriots. the idea is to make a business trip out of it, going to the white house first then practicing with the patriots the rest of the week. This leads to the preseason game we have with them. It’s actually a very good idea from the FO. Good attempt to put a political spin on this in an attempt to make the saints organization look bad… and to all the saints haters, keep on hatin, we know you’re scared…. in the famous words of
    Katt Williams
    “So what if they keep talking about you and hating on you. What do you think a “hater’s” job is…to hate. If you have someone hating on you right now you better think of how to get 5 more people hating by Christmas. You need haters to make you stronger… Without haters most people wouldn’t try to become better. Just tell them “***** you just hate me because you can’t be me…
    WHO DAT REPEATIN?!?!

  39. deiong says: Jun 26, 2010 2:56 PM

    they couldnt pay me enough to go visit the white house. how stupid is that? like meeting the worset pres in americas history is something to be proud of? id rather do somethign worth while rather then stroke the worse pres in am historys ego..

  40. funi says: Jun 26, 2010 2:57 PM

    Maybe its because of the Vicodin useage at the Saints facility! The Aints need Capt Culp to yell at Obama to invite them!

  41. Vee says: Jun 26, 2010 3:13 PM

    You know the REAL reason behind this?
    IT’S THE REFEREE’S FAULT!!
    or:
    IT’S A CONSPIRACY BY THE NFL!!
    Vikings fans just can’t get over the fact that they lost the NFC Championship game. Now Florio and all his purple pals have simply become consumed with hate and write dumb stuff like this article. It’s embarrassing.

  42. floriosucksit says: Jun 26, 2010 3:29 PM

    For the love of all things holy Mr.F
    Please quit trying to write something about the Saints.
    You just come off as a sniveling whining little bitch….i guess you learned this in your youth rooting for the Purple team(Purple for Gawds sake,no self respecting team in the NFL wears purple)
    Start dressing in mens clothes again and grow a pair.

  43. Deb says: Jun 26, 2010 3:46 PM

    What POSSIBLE difference does it make when the Saints go to the White House? It’s a short ceremonial trip/photo op. Can’t imagine it will have any impact on their season–let alone derail it. The Steelers went in May … didn’t keep them from going into last season too cocky. Super Bowl repeats are rare under any circumstances, but I’m sure the Saints will perform well.

  44. Kay Bee says: Jun 26, 2010 4:03 PM

    RaiderChile says:
    June 26, 2010 12:15 PM
    Starting to dislike this team all toghether. The owner is a jerk and the coach too!
    ————————————————————–
    Yeah, they’re the total opposite of Al Davis and Tom Cable.
    LMAO

  45. artieblanksucsbigD says: Jun 26, 2010 4:10 PM

    it seems to me that u would also realize that a true “reporter” would also note that the “WHITE HOUSE” schedule events such as this, however u omit this from your rumor mongering. next time you pass on dilutions such as this- @ the end say “im a lawyer” like they do on TMZ
    they called it “crap” cause u were caught w/your pants on the ground!! surely they identified what they were sniffing and just being kind.

  46. BigEasy says: Jun 26, 2010 4:12 PM

    crap was directed as a term of endearment for PFT’s article in which it referenced the reason why the team hasn’t been there yet!!

  47. Bious says: Jun 26, 2010 4:41 PM

    Or…you made up a rumor with no basis and AM SHOCKED when they call out your crap

  48. RexRyan'sStressedLapband says: Jun 26, 2010 4:51 PM

    @Jersey73:
    A Down Periscope reference? Outstanding!

  49. bad asset says: Jun 26, 2010 5:02 PM

    Not that Floria would be privy to the actual facts, but the delay is due to timing in getting Reggie Bush coached up for questions for his Senate run after retirement from the NFL.

  50. OC Dave says: Jun 26, 2010 5:22 PM

    @ Martin Keamy & edgy1957
    Good points and i concur.
    @ jersey73
    If you’re going to get political, pull your foot out of your mouth first and learn some facts….

  51. wxwax says: Jun 26, 2010 5:34 PM

    That Bensel guy really reflects well on his team.
    An official spokesmen using words like “crap”?
    That, and the way he’s freezing-out local affiliate WWL-TV, are giving the Saints a bad image.
    Bensel is giving an object lesson in how to turn popular Super Bowl winners into the bad guys.
    Pretty much the opposite of his job description. Ironic, isn’t it?

  52. PackFaninPackLand says: Jun 26, 2010 5:36 PM

    @ Martin Keamy
    Name those “four specific Mr.President visits since the spill” sir !
    Go ahead, name those 4 specific dates !
    I just love liberal revisionist history.

  53. PackFaninPackLand says: Jun 26, 2010 5:44 PM

    Florio, you are so sad. Blocking any anti-Obama F-A-C-T-S to be posted, just like a good little liberal would. Censorship at it’s finest.
    No wonder you like Keith Uber-Moron, you’re just like him.
    By the way, can you, Florio, name when these FOUR supposed visits by Obama to the Gulf since the oil spill were ???
    I’d love to know when they were !

  54. Deb says: Jun 26, 2010 5:58 PM

    @PackFaninPackLand …
    From today’s New York Daily News:
    Vice President Biden will visit the Gulf Coast on Tuesday to check on progress in the ongoing fight against the massive oil spill, officials said Friday. …
    The trip will be the vice president’s first since the crisis in the Gulf began. President Obama has visited the region FOUR times in recent months.
    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/06/26/2010-06-26_bidens_beach_trip_sure_to_be_an_oily_one.html#ixzz0rzzFnzPi
    What does this have to do with the Saints visiting the White House????

  55. FriarBob says: Jun 26, 2010 6:15 PM

    Well if you’d actually bothered to read the WHOLE article, you might have noticed that the scheduling was from the White House, not from the Saints.
    Minor detail, of course… except for that it makes your whole pile of crap obviously exactly that.

  56. bad asset says: Jun 26, 2010 6:16 PM

    Freaking amazing that people think their ignorant political opinions make for a worthy read in a football blog, when they should have come away with a clue after finding out that no one gives a rat’s ass what they think in political blogs either. Do the rest of us a favor and shoot yourselves in the head, dumbasses.

  57. Martin Keamy says: Jun 26, 2010 6:29 PM

    @PackFaninPackLand @Jersey73
    see “Deb” comment
    but for more:
    June 14: http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/photogallery/president-obama-visits-gulf-communities-mississippi-alabama-and-florid
    June 4th:http://www.hotindienews.com/2010/06/03/1025140
    May 28: http://projects.ajc.com/gallery/view/metro/news/obamagulf/
    April 30ish: http://www.wftv.com/news/23323364/detail.html
    But I don’t suppose that’ll convince you. Now if you’ll excuse me I have to go continue forcing my socialist, uneducated, irresponsible ways on society!
    oh yeah…football something another… Saints (so they’ll post it)

  58. edgy1957 says: Jun 26, 2010 6:47 PM

    PackFaninPackLand says:
    @ Martin Keamy
    ***********************
    I’m not Martin and I didn’t say 4 but I can say: May 2nd, May 28th, June 4th and June 14, which is — wait for it – 4 trips to Louisiana and that’s also not counting that he recently went to visit the other gulf states as well. You need to change your news station so that you can get REAL news. Seems that Sean, Glenn and Rush don’t give you the scoop.

  59. bobzilla says: Jun 26, 2010 7:13 PM

    Deb: The visit to the White House didn’t prevent the Steelers from going into last season “cocky”?
    Do you even watch football? The Steelers got off to a 6-2 start in 2009. That’s pretty good for a team that was overconfident, or “cocky,” as you might say.
    The undoing of the Steelers was losing Troy Polamalu and Aaron Smith for extended periods of time. The Steelers live and die on their defense.
    As for the Saints: They are about to find out what life at the top is all about. There’s no longer a routine; it’s now all about playing for the television networks.

  60. Deb says: Jun 26, 2010 8:01 PM

    @bobzilla …
    No, darlin’, I’ve never tuned in an NFL game. I come to profootballtalk.com for the scintillating political discussions … because it never occurred to me to try finding those on a political blog.
    Yes, we went 6-2 in our first 8 games. Let’s consider those eight games …
    Opened with a skin-of-the-teeth overtime win at home against a Titans squad that dropped its next five. Followed with an embarrassing loss to a Bears team that failed to make the playoffs the year before and didn’t make the playoffs again last year.
    Lost to the Bengals. The BENGALS.
    Soundly beat the Chargers at home; seem to have Norv’s number. But actually let the LIONS make a lil game of it. Beat the Browns, um, splitting that series. And had impressive games against the Vikings and Broncos … before imploding.
    Yes, Aaron Smith was a huge loss. Losing Polamalu highlighted significant weaknesses in our secondary AND limited LeBeau’s ability to bring it on the pass rush.
    Even so, the Steelers finished the 2009 season FIFTH in total defense. So seven teams with INFERIOR defenses made it into the playoffs.
    A lot of Steelers fans blame the predictable play-calling of offensive coordinator Bruce Arians for the team’s mediocrity. But Pittsburgh finished SEVENTH in total offense. So five teams with INFERIOR offenses made it into the playoffs.
    Professional football is a complex sport. MANY things contribute to a team’s undoing.
    ONE of the MANY things that contributed to ours was cockiness. If you didn’t realize the team was cocky, YOU must not have listened to any preseason interviews or paid attention to the team’s demeanor as going into those early games.
    Or maybe things like demeanor skim right past you. Do you even watch football?

  61. jersey73 says: Jun 26, 2010 8:23 PM

    Wow…you make one hyperbole joke about Obama and the lefties show they have no sense of humor.
    Maybe if I say that Big Ben is gonna hang out with Al Gore, they’ll laugh. Probably not.
    Wait…it’s time for another golf game.

  62. Hugearms23 says: Jun 26, 2010 9:24 PM

    The Saints fall this year will be huge! But it won’t come close to Obama’s Poll Numbers crash.
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
    At least I admitt I was suckered into voting for him so I must take some blame. He has been a complete and utter failure.
    Remember where you heard it first Hillary will be the next President in 2012 after the massacre the Gop puts on the Dems in November. This guy is in way over his head one and done thats for sure.
    j-e-t-s JETS JETS JETS

  63. Deb says: Jun 26, 2010 9:35 PM

    @bobzilla …
    No, darlin’, I’ve never tuned in an NFL game. I come to profootballtalk.com for the scintillating political discussions … because it never occurred to me to try finding those on a political blog.
    Yes, we went 6-2 in our first 8 games. Let’s consider those eight games …
    Opened with a skin-of-the-teeth overtime win at home against a Titans squad that dropped its next five. Followed with an embarrassing loss to a Bears team that failed to make the playoffs the year before and didn’t make the playoffs again last year.
    Lost to the Bengals. The BENGALS.
    Soundly beat the Chargers at home; seem to have Norv’s number. But actually let the LIONS make a lil game of it. Beat the Browns, um, splitting that series. And had impressive games against the Vikings and Broncos … before imploding.
    Yes, Aaron Smith was a huge loss. Losing Polamalu highlighted significant weaknesses in our secondary AND limited LeBeau’s ability to bring it on the pass rush.
    Even so, the Steelers finished the 2009 season FIFTH in total defense. So seven teams with INFERIOR defenses made it into the playoffs.
    A lot of Steelers fans blame the predictable play-calling of offensive coordinator Bruce Arians for the team’s mediocrity. But Pittsburgh finished SEVENTH in total offense. So five teams with INFERIOR offenses made it into the playoffs.
    Professional football is a complex sport. MANY things contribute to a team’s undoing.
    ONE of the MANY things that contributed to ours was cockiness. If you didn’t realize the team was cocky, YOU must not have listened to any preseason interviews or paid attention to the team’s demeanor as going into those early games.
    Or maybe things like demeanor skim right past you. Do you even watch football?

  64. joelvis72 says: Jun 26, 2010 9:58 PM

    Florio seems to have a chip on his shoulder about the Saints being a pile of crap for the first 43 years of their existence, finally winning a Super Bowl, and then enjoying it.

  65. SKINSFANTOM says: Jun 26, 2010 10:04 PM

    for those of you who STILL have your head up your ass, this incompetent/over matched human being- who i actually like as a human being- is the worst president ever -by far-including jimma carter. if we dont get him to resign soon and admit that he doesn’t have a friggin’ clue as to what he is doing, the hole we’re in is going to be too big for anyone to get us out of. see Greece and a few other socialist countries in Europe. 91% of black people think he is doing a good job? are you effin kiddin’ me? good god what have we done?

  66. SKINSFANTOM says: Jun 26, 2010 10:05 PM

    hail to the redskins….

  67. Florio Lies says: Jun 26, 2010 10:07 PM

    Mike plays the music, and fools dance to the ‘news’.

  68. Hayward G says: Jun 26, 2010 11:03 PM

    Really, who the hell cares about a White House visit at this point.
    A few things: First off, we need to wrap our heads around the inevitable fact that this is going to be the greatest environmental catastrophe America has ever seen, and maybe one of the top 3 in human history (along with Chernobyl and Bhopal).
    Second, this oil spi-…gusher cannot and will not be stopped. It will be going on for years. The oil killing every living thing in the Gulf is one thing. The million gallons (and growing) of toxic Corexit dumped in the Gulf is another, an absolutely tragedy and bordering on attempted genocide, when you consider what the long term effects on the population of the affected areas, and the loop current already taking oil up the east coast of Florida, to who knows where. An oil hurricane, a real possiblity, will be the end of life as we know it for every single American, no matter where you live. We can’t keed burying our heads in the sand about this.
    Which brings me to my football questions: are there contingency plans for the Gulf Coast teams (particularly New Orleans and Tampa, to a lesser extent Houston) if those areas are unable to host games this season due to the endless mega-disaster? There is already talk of mass evacuations of the Gulf Coast within 200 miles of “ground zero”.
    New Orleans is fortunate to be playing indoors, but as for Tampa…what happens when it starts raining oil there as it already is in coastal Louisiana? I imagine this would be a completely untenable situation and would lead to games needing to be (at best) cancelled/delayed/moved, at worst having an enitre season or more moved out of the Gulf region altogether.
    I say this as someone who loves the Big Easy (was there 2 weeks after the mega-disaster began, in fact), who has friends and family scatted throughout the Gulf Coast from Texas to Florida, who usually makes it to a Bucs game every year and someone who has already cancelled plans to see my Pats playing in Miami this October due to the aforementioned.
    I am just horrified and angry, not necessarily in that order, about where this is heading. Anyone else?

  69. PurpleNGold says: Jun 26, 2010 11:26 PM

    @ Ed in NJ
    Snopes has nothing debunking oil rain on the gulf coast, where did you get your information?
    Crude contains many different components, some are quite volatile, benzene for example will most certainly evaporate. Where did you get your education?
    Do you work in the oil industry?

  70. PurpleNGold says: Jun 26, 2010 11:49 PM

    @ Hayward G
    We’ve been had. It’s time to break BP into little pieces and imprison their board. They were warned more than once that there were problems with this site. Executives of BP chose to ignore the warnings of their engineers in the name of money. Hunt them down with the same fervor reserved for international terrorists – because that’s what they are.

  71. Fed up says: Jun 27, 2010 5:39 AM

    Bush destroyed New Orleans years ago. If Katrina had happened in Orange County, California (Republican territory), that piece of garbage would have been Johnny-on-the-spot.
    Anyway, we lefties warned you flag-waving @$$wipes about the lies of the Iraq War. You didn’t listen. Then, we warned you about the greedy oil companies and the potential harm to the environment. You called us a bunch of Commie tree huggers. Well, we were right again!
    The Republican Party = GObP.
    Who cares about the Saints? New Orleans is about the great music. Not a one-hit wonder football team.
    GO STEELERS!

  72. jersey73 says: Jun 27, 2010 8:21 AM

    @ Fed up:
    Bush conjured up a hurricane to hit New Orleans??? Wow…there is some interesting logic.
    As for the rest of the stuff, you can disagree with the Iraq War; but do more research than the MSM and learn the reasons were (and still are solid.) The only lies are the ones you’ve been duped into believing. Try reading Larry Schweikart’s writing to see all the document evidence.
    As for calling the Republican Party “GObP”…the number one recipient of BP money was Barack Obama.
    So much for an educated electorate.

  73. edgy1957 says: Jun 27, 2010 11:01 AM

    jersey73 says:
    As for the rest of the stuff, you can disagree with the Iraq War; but do more research than the MSM and learn the reasons were (and still are solid.).
    ********************
    Bull shit. The Iraq War was a REVENGE war and that’s all there was to it. There was NO connection to 9-11, NO connection to Al-Qaeda, NO weapons of mass destruction AND the Babu defense (He’s a bad man, a very bad man) didn’t cut it because we knew that long ago and neither Reagan or Bush 41 took steps to do anything about his atrocities because he was an ally. It wasn’t until he invaded Kuwait that Bush 41 even lifted a finger against him.
    BP accounted for .01% of Obama’s contributions and it was all individual money because Obama didn’t take any PAC money. Others got more in PAC money than him ($0).
    I also find it funny that when conservatives get caught bending the truth that the first thing out of their mouth is how it’s a joke and how liberals don’t have a sense of humor.

  74. Martin Keamy says: Jun 27, 2010 2:07 PM

    agrees with edge1957
    Just as I disproved that Obama had never visited the Gulf Coast…they just do the “little kid lying theory”
    Billy did you push Andy down?
    No.
    I saw you do it, Billy.
    Well Andy stole cookies from the cookie jar.
    I mean you can disprove everything you want, edge, but they’ll just ignore your facts and come up with something new to complain about and to make Obama look worse and to ignore what you just said.
    Safety! (Always use at least one football reference so they’ll post your post)

  75. jersey73 says: Jun 27, 2010 2:16 PM

    @edgy1957…do the research and stop spouting off talking points.
    Where did I say Obama got the majority of his cash from BP??? But he accepted more BP money than others did.
    As for the Iraq War, some info (from Schweikart and others):
    1) Bill Clinton in 1998 said he wants to destroy Iraq’s WMD. Tom Daschle, Carl Levin, and John Kerry authored a letter to President Clinton urging him to take all action (including air strikes) to the threat Iraq posed. In 1999, Madeleline Albright said that Saddam is spending him money building WMD. In 2002, Ted Kennedy said Saddam is developing WMDs. In 2002, Al Gore said that we know Saddam has stored secret supplies of WMDs. These are hardly Bush/Republican supporters.
    2) Iraq dissidens reported that Saddam moves weapons to mosques since coalition forces refrained from searching mosques.
    3) British troops in Basra reported being fired at with rounds containing chemical weapons. Barrels in Northern Iraq tested positive for sarin and mustard gas.
    4) In 2006, ex-Iraqi general Sada said that WMDs were smuggled out of Iraq. Tapes and documents were found in Iraq with hours of meetings of Saddam making preparations to move WMDs. Demetrius Perricos of the UN in 2004 confirmed that WMDs were smuggled out of Iraq with Syria & Russia’s help
    5) Bush never said that Iraq was involved in 9/11. He made reference that there are ties between Saddam and al-Qaeda. There was tons contact, but no formal deals between the two sides. The Feith Memo details some of the connections. But to say this is a Bush fabrication is ridiculous. How else do you explain someone like Dick Gephardt saying on television that is lots of links between al-Qaeda & Saddam?
    To say, “No, none, nothing” is disengenous. You could disagree about going to war (that is your right as an American), but don’t twist facts. Both parties (Republican and Democrat) believed the reasons…and revenge was not one of them.
    Now back to our regular stuff…SCREW WORLD CUP…BRING ON THE NFL!

  76. Deb says: Jun 27, 2010 2:34 PM

    Wow, bobzilla …
    When you blast a simple football comment with unprovoked sarcasm and nastiness, do you expect the recipient to say “gee, thanks, oh wise one”? If you can’t handle getting the sarcasm thrown back at you, don’t dish it. It’s a bit grade-school to start chasing me from thread to thread whining about how disrespectful and football ignorant I am just because you have a sour disposition and a one-dimensional view of a multi-dimensional game.

  77. edgy1957 says: Jun 27, 2010 3:16 PM

    jersey73 says: June 27, 2010 2:16 PM
    @edgy1957…do the research and stop spouting off talking points.
    Where did I say Obama got the majority of his cash from BP??? But he accepted more BP money than others did.
    ********************
    Where did I say that you said that. I merely pointed out that he got NO MONEY FROM BP’s PAC, which is what everyone on the Right is trying to say. Obama got all his money from BP INDIVIDUALS and it amounted to very little of his overall money. His critics say that he got the most money from BP but they don’t say two things; he took NOTHING from their PAC (or any PAC for that matter) and that’s over the last 10 years. In 2008, Obama got $71,000 of his $750 MILLION from BP employees. On the other hand, McCain only got a little over $36,000 BUT while Obama got $900 million from the oil industry, McCain got $2.4 million (BP spent more on Republicans during the 2008 election cycle). The sum total of the oil contributions to Obama would rank 3rd on his list of contributors BUT that’s an entire industry. If you go by industry, it doesn’t even make the top of his list.
    Bull shit. You can try your best to throw Democrats and Republicans under the bus for voting for the war but the fact is that it’s WELL KNOWN that Bush wanted revenge for Hussein’s involvement in a plot to assassinate Bush 41. As each and every excuse was used, Bush and his administration came up with new excuses and it finally came down to the Babu defense.
    I know it’s not your cup of tea but the Washington Post did have this to say:
    In late 2001, Cheney said it was “pretty well confirmed” that attack mastermind Mohamed Atta had met with a senior Iraqi intelligence official. Later, Cheney called Iraq the “geographic base of the terrorists who had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11.”
    You bring up Demetrius Perricos and yet, what did he ACTUALLY say in 2004? I suppose I should probably go to a conservative web site that has taken his words out of context but let’s try USA Today:

    In his first interview since former chief U.S. inspector David Kay announced his conclusion that Iraq had no banned weapons before the war, Perricos said Kay’s findings undercut complaints from the Bush administration that the U.N. teams were not aggressive enough to find chemical and biological weapons in Iraq.
    U.N. officials with direct knowledge of the weapons search now say U.S. intelligence tips did little to help the prewar search and often produced no results — or low comedy. In one case, these officials said, U.N. inspectors following a U.S. tip descended in a nighttime raid on what they’d been told was a weapons site disguised as a chicken farm. In fact, they found, the site was just what it looked like: a smelly, messy, working chicken farm.
    “For a lot of people who were negative because they didn’t know, the impact from David Kay’s pronouncement has started them to realize that there was expertise in UNMOVIC, that we were not incompetent,” said Perricos, who heads the U.N. Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC). “The results were the same.”

    As for Clinton, Kerry and the others that were wrong about WMD – including the so-called nukes that the Bush administration kept saying that Iraq had – so what. Wrong is wrong and they were all wrong.
    We invaded a country under false pretenses and the world turned on us because of it. Hell, a lot of people were wondering if their country was next and it didn’t sit well with out allies or our enemies. We fought a war of revenge instead of sticking to our goal and that was getting pay back for 9-11. We went trillions into debt over a war that we should have been waging against the real perpetrators of 9-11.
    We turned a country into disarray, watched countless thousands of Iraqis die because we plunged them into their own revenge war of Muslim sect against Muslim sect and killed our economy funding a war that Bush and Cheney assured us would be funded by Iraq and that we’d be greeted as liberators.
    BTW, don’t get the idea that I’m some liberal pantywaist, I spent 9 1/2 years in the military and I have nothing against waging war when it’s justified (Which is more than I can say for Chicken Hawks like Cheney, Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh). Going to Tora Bora was justified; going to Iraq to get a little payback because Saddam tried to off Bush 41 WAS NOT.

  78. Ilovefoolsball says: Jun 27, 2010 3:17 PM

    The commander incompetent should get snuffed again. He hasn’t shown leadership in the wake of the spill disaster and instead seems to be doing everything that others tell him. Don’t do it Saints.

  79. Deb says: Jun 27, 2010 3:43 PM

    My, edge-pot, what long posts you write …
    Kettle

  80. edgy1957 says: Jun 27, 2010 4:42 PM

    # Deb says: June 27, 2010 3:43 PM
    ********************
    What, no Ben to defend — STOP STALKING ME…

  81. jersey73 says: Jun 27, 2010 6:06 PM

    @edgy1957…once again, you throw around “well known” revenge as a major factor. Zero evidence, zero facts to back that up.
    I guess you assume Clinton bombed a baby aspirin factory in Iraq because he wanted to deflect media attention from the Monica Lewinsky issue too. Or is that one justified???
    You seem to want to blame Cheney & Bush for everything but exornerate everyone else. You complain about chicken-hawks…but what is worse is a chicken-hawk who then turn hypocrite about it and act as if they were always against it…as were those people you mentioned. Or they were duped. (If that’s the case, the Democratic leadership is a whole lot dumber than the “stupid” President that Bush supposedly was.)
    By the way, the same Washington Post wrote: “But the report of the commission’s staff, based on its access to all relevant classified information, said that there had been contacts between Iraq and al Qaeda but no cooperation.” This is precisely what I said early. No formal agreement between the sides.
    Or add even worse to it..Obama and Biden who were against the surge in Iraq, but now that it worked try to take credit for the success in Iraq.
    Once again, to say an entire war was based on revenge, with absolutely no truth to the other reasons is wrong. And to make the link that it is to blame for the “worldwide” economic recession is crazy both economically and politically. Obviously the sub-prime mortgage market and all those issue are related to our policies in Iraq. (yes, sarcasm.)

  82. Deb says: Jun 27, 2010 6:34 PM

    ROFL, edge … priceless :)
    What, no appreciation for irony?

  83. edgy1957 says: Jun 27, 2010 7:40 PM

    # Deb says:
    ROFL, edge … priceless :)
    What, no appreciation for irony?
    ***************************
    There’s no irony, Deb. I was just giving you a little of what you’ve been giving others.

  84. edgy1957 says: Jun 27, 2010 8:03 PM

    jersey73 says: June 27, 2010 6:06 PM
    @edgy1957…once again, you throw around “well known” revenge as a major factor. Zero evidence, zero facts to back that up.
    *******************
    That’s right – we went to war for all the right reasons. If you believe that then you really are brainwashed. NO WMD, NO AL-QAEDA, NO 9-11 CONNECTION and we already knew that Hussein was a bad man. Hell, Kim Jong-Il is a bad many, a very bad man but we didn’t go to North Korea to take down his regime, even though it DOES have weapons of mass destruction, including nuclear weapons. Why didn’t he go after Putin? Oh that’s right, he saw into Putin’s soul (did he also see all the people that Putin had disappear when he was with the KGB?). Could it be that they both have something in common: neither sponsored an assassination attempt on Bush 41? Nah, right….
    Look, you seem to be under some misconception that I don’t believe that Hussein ever had WMD and that’s not true BUT it wasn’t a justification for going to war when we should have been going after Bin Laden. By the time that Bush took over, most, if not all of that crap was gone and the guy that you wanted to show agreed with you, said completely the opposite of what you tried to say.
    I’m also NOT exonerating anyone else because I said that what they said was irrelevant. If WMD qualifies us to go in and take down the governments then we need to man up and head into Russia, China, North Korea, Great Britain, France, Iran, etc. until the only ones that have WMD are under our thumbs and we’re the ones that are calling the shots. Oh wait, now I’m starting to sound like Dick “4 Deferral” Cheney….
    The SURGE is still the funniest thing that Bush and Cheney did because they actually FIRED their top general for going in front of Congress and saying that it would cost HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of dollars and we’d need 300,000 troops in post invasion Iraq because of the complications that would arise from taking down the police state. The SURGE was strongly denounced by Rumsfeld and Cheney, who both characterized the general as an idiot and when the insurgency happened, they all looked like idiots because everything that he said came true except how much money it would cost because he severely underestimated how much it would really cost to fight the war that the Bush administration told everyone would be funded by the oil of Iraq.
    Talk about putting words in my mouth. I didn’t say that the war caused the world wide recession and if you claim that I did then you need to go back to school to learn how to read. What I was talking about is how all that money went into the toilet and it’s hurt us here AND we’re spending twice as much as we should have to fight a war in Afghanistan that should have been fought long ago but the money was diverted on a revenge war.

  85. Deb says: Jun 28, 2010 3:43 AM

    @edge …
    Correct, soldier. I’ve been the aggressor. By researching a legal issue and posting my view of the evidence, I created in these “others” an irresistible impulse to be abusive … something I could have stopped by caving in to their views or leaving the site. I committed the unforgivable act of standing by my principles. Good thing my victims had a brave military man like you to step up and take a kill shot. Honor is such a rare quality.

  86. The Real Shuxion says: Jun 28, 2010 9:36 AM

    # Fed up says: June 27, 2010 5:39 AM
    Bush destroyed New Orleans years ago. If Katrina had happened in Orange County, California (Republican territory), that piece of garbage would have been Johnny-on-the-spot.
    Anyway, we lefties warned you flag-waving @$$wipes about the lies of the Iraq War. You didn’t listen. Then, we warned you about the greedy oil companies and the potential harm to the environment. You called us a bunch of Commie tree huggers. Well, we were right again!
    The Republican Party = GObP.
    Who cares about the Saints? New Orleans is about the great music. Not a one-hit wonder football team.
    GO STEELERS!
    —————————————————-
    Yes Bush actually conjured up the hurricane with help from the Super Devil. Then he paid Bin Laden millions to have the trade centers destroyed. He also has been working with the Legion of Doom to destroy Jesus.
    The Steeler nation continues to get dumber….. if that were possible.

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