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If Michael Vick has a timeline problem, so does Roddy White

We noted yesterday that Eagles quarterback Michael Vick could have a timeline problem, as the owner of the restaurant that hosted Vick’s birthday party says he has security-camera footage that contradicts Vick’s claim about when he left the party.

But as D. Orlando Ledbetter of the Atlanta Journal Constitution points out, if Vick has a timeline problem, Falcons receiver Roddy White does too.

White backed up Vick’s version of events, saying the two were long gone before a fight broke out that ended up with Vick’s former friend and dog fighting co-defendant Quanis Phillips was shot.

As Ledbetter notes, it’s likely that White will be hearing from NFL Security as the league continues looking into the matter. And it would be wise for White not to say anything that could be contradicted by security tapes.

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52 Responses to “If Michael Vick has a timeline problem, so does Roddy White”
  1. FireJerryJones says: Jun 30, 2010 9:10 AM

    Not very good on timing patterns either.
    Lots of video evidence of him missing WR’s on those.

  2. Bullet says: Jun 30, 2010 9:12 AM

    I’m not a Vick fan or Eagles fan, but gone is gone…. 3 minutes, 30 minutes, 3 days. It doesn’t matter. If he wasn’t there, he wasn’t there. And really… if you leave somewhere, how are you supposed to have a timeline for something when your gone? How can you say you left “x amount of minutes” before a fight broke out… when you weren’t even there when it broke out? I don’t understand this shit! Why would Roddy be associating himself with Vick and his entourage? His knows Vick’s past as we all do. Don’t put yourself in that situation. Just sayin…

  3. birdmancometh says: Jun 30, 2010 9:12 AM

    I don’t know about the rest of you, but when i’m out partying I often have timeline troubles the next day too. Just sayin.
    The funny thing about making the timeline a big deal is that his attorney said 10 min and the owner says 3 min…I think getting within 7 min is pretty good. I just hope the video shows what happened so one way or the other we can know what actually happened instead of what Mike Florio hopes happened.

  4. AllThat says: Jun 30, 2010 9:18 AM

    What a dumbass.

  5. The Hogster says: Jun 30, 2010 9:23 AM

    BREAKING NEWS: It is now a crime to be near a crime!!
    Punishable by 20 years to Life of nasty bloggers and hateful but anonymous commentary.

  6. Jack Burton says: Jun 30, 2010 9:28 AM

    It’s always a good idea to attend a birthday party for a convicted felon if you’re a rich and famous athlete.

  7. jerseykingpin says: Jun 30, 2010 9:28 AM

    Bullet says:
    June 30, 2010 9:12 AM
    I’m not a Vick fan or Eagles fan, but gone is gone…. 3 minutes, 30 minutes, 3 days. It doesn’t matter. If he wasn’t there, he wasn’t there. And really… if you leave somewhere, how are you supposed to have a timeline for something when your gone? How can you say you left “x amount of minutes” before a fight broke out… when you weren’t even there when it broke out? I don’t understand this shit! Why would Roddy be associating himself with Vick and his entourage? His knows Vick’s past as we all do. Don’t put yourself in that situation. Just sayin…
    —————————-
    You forgot about the shouts from from the way Vick left so 3mins is not the same as 30 or even 10 mins

  8. kdub says: Jun 30, 2010 9:28 AM

    Don’t forget that the shooting happened a half block from the restaurant/club. Leaving 3 minutes before the shooting that happened away from where the cameras were is huge compared to “long before”. It’s not like it happened in the lobby…

  9. LiveNBreatheFootball says: Jun 30, 2010 9:29 AM

    Roddy White has to decide which is more important to protect: his football career or his lying, cheating, dog-killing “friend.”

  10. Zox says: Jun 30, 2010 9:31 AM

    Vick ran the Run and Gun.

  11. mgbleedsgreen says: Jun 30, 2010 9:31 AM

    “if you leave somewhere, how are you supposed to have a timeline for something when your gone?”
    well said, Bullet

  12. EverybodyGotAIDS says: Jun 30, 2010 9:33 AM

    Bullet says:
    June 30, 2010 9:12 AM
    I’m not a Vick fan or Eagles fan, but gone is gone…. 3 minutes, 30 minutes, 3 days. It doesn’t matter. If he wasn’t there, he wasn’t there. And really… if you leave somewhere, how are you supposed to have a timeline for something when your gone? How can you say you left “x amount of minutes” before a fight broke out… when you weren’t even there when it broke out?
    _____________________________
    Exactly. How CAN you say that? …and yet he did….which begs the question: “Why?”

  13. jcjets says: Jun 30, 2010 9:36 AM

    My thoughts exactly @birdmancometh. how are they even supposed to know when the shooting took place if they weren’t there?? What if someone told Vick the shooting happened at 2:30am and so he thinks he left way before?
    So instead of Vick being in trouble for shooting someone, he’s introuble for not knowing the exact time he left a party where someone was shot. Its a good thing I don’t go do shady parties where people get shot..because I would not know the exact time i left the party either.

  14. Chapnasty2 says: Jun 30, 2010 9:40 AM

    What is going to happen is everyone will remain quiet due to this “no snitching” mentality. Vick very easily could have gone to one of his buddies who hasn’t been convicted of a felony yet and said “take care of this”. He IS a lifetime thug and it is very easy to believe he could still pull off a thuggish act like this.
    And to the PFT comment approval schmuck, is there anyway you can apply a common rule to approving comments? I am sick and tired of not seeing my comments posted which do not contain any vulgarity but yet I have to read Blondehairblueeyedevil’s racist crap. Not to mention a lot of the crap that is posted on here. I know you guys want to be the TMZ of the NFL but have some respect and edit people who make your website look like trash.

  15. midnite says: Jun 30, 2010 9:41 AM

    Roddy didn’t yo mama tell you that you are judged by the company you keep? Son, when you make those millions you must learn to discern.

  16. Bwa Ha Ha says: Jun 30, 2010 9:41 AM

    You PFT guys must reaaaaaaaly hate Vick.
    I mean, a lot.

  17. ICDogg says: Jun 30, 2010 9:42 AM

    I must say, I don’t usually check to see exactly what time it is every time I leave some place where I don’t have any further appointments that I have to worry about. And I don’t think such a small discrepancy is going to create a problem.

  18. Burning River says: Jun 30, 2010 9:44 AM

    Remember, Roddy…..
    When you lay down with dogs, you wake up with…
    Oh, never mind.

  19. jcjets says: Jun 30, 2010 9:46 AM

    Also, there was no direct quote in the Wavy.com article from his lawyer saying “at least 10, and perhaps as much as 20 minutes.” You’re taking the reporters words as to what Vick’s lawyer said as the truth without a direct quote in the paper.
    And in the other article you link to from the dailypress.com, there is a direct quote from the lawyer: “Michael left somewhere around 2 a.m.” which would go along with what the restaurant owner says the video shows.
    I don’t even really give a damn about this story, but the bottom line is he left prior to the shooting. If it was me, I’d take the restaurant video as a GREAT thing and proof I wasn’t involved.

  20. NinersFanInMisery says: Jun 30, 2010 9:46 AM

    Poor judgement by Vick to even throw a party at a public place, however this shouldnt be the death knell either.
    Stop going to clubs Mike where people that dislike you can show up and influence an otherwise festive occasion.

  21. jmt says: Jun 30, 2010 9:46 AM

    It is time to find some other news to report on even though we know you wont. The unfortunate thing for Mr. Vick is he has too many enemies in the media that will dig and dig and dig until they kill him. He left before the shooting that was around the corner from the restaurant and this owner has contradicted himself several times> Move on until the league makes a decision. Maybe if they had not lost Big Ben’s tape we still be talking about him.

  22. 6250claimer says: Jun 30, 2010 9:49 AM

    Here’s an obvious question – how do either of these fartknockers know they were “long gone” if the incident in question occurred AFTER they were gone? Whether it be 3 days, 3 hours, 3 minutes.. they weren’t there. So how would they even know? That was a stupid assertion in the first place.
    You Vick apologists are as pathetic as he is. There is NO defending this piece of human garbage at this point. You only shame yourself by even attempting to do so, applying twisted “logic” in weak attempts to justify his indefensible actions. The guy needs to be banned from the NFL for life at the very least, and quite possibly returned to the hoosegow if the investigation turns up the kind of info that seems inevitable at this point. Expect the banhammer to come down at any minute now. And the NFL and the world in general will be a better place for it.

  23. MrHumble says: Jun 30, 2010 9:51 AM

    His attorney first claimed “long before”, then it went to “30 minutes or so”, then “possibly 20 to 10 minutes”….trying to slowly make their “made up story(lies)” become more believeable with the actual eye in the sky video footage that they were obviously confronted with. How there can be any Vick defenders posting is beyond me, it doesn’t take a freakin’ Einstein to figure out what happened. Vick and Phillips were there together, got into an arguement, Vick instructed his “entourage” to take care of Phillips for him but to wait until he (Vick) had left the premises. Only problem is that his “hommies” didn’t wait long enough. The issue isn’t whether Vick shot Phillips, but defenders of Vick are trying to confuse the issue by using the “timeline” that Vick was gone as his defense. The issue is that Vick was violating his parole and the rules of reinstatement that Goodell had set forth. Associating with felons, associating with his “friends” that he was told not to do, associating with someone carrying a gun, being in a club that served alcohol, or more simply he was in the wrong place at the wrong time…..keep in mind, none of the above applies to people like us and thus seems harmless, but Vick is on parole and doesn’t have the freedom to “do what he wants to do , when he wants to do it”.

  24. AldoRaine says: Jun 30, 2010 10:01 AM

    Shocking….Michael Vick “left” 3 minutes before someone gets shot—and of course, Vick is the victim here to many of you?
    This guy is the biggest scumbag in professional sports—and if anyone thinks this was a coincidence that Vick left moments before someone got shot—I have some swamp land for sale, shoot me off an email—cheap too.

  25. eastboogieillinois says: Jun 30, 2010 10:02 AM

    Vick hopefully will see that nothing good can come from these events. While you are trying to change your image and have a career. Lay low. You only have a few years left. Then when you go party no one will care!

  26. geo1113 says: Jun 30, 2010 10:02 AM

    It is really getting ridiculous. When did you leave the party is really open to interpretation? Do you leave when the car pulls away? Do you leave when you say hey it is time to leave? What time did any of you go to lunch yesterday? What time did you get to work today?
    As for the situation at hand. They had cake, then left. Vick had an entourage, they got into their vehicles, they left, 3 minutes later a guy gets shot in the leg. How long does that take? I don’t know. How long does it feel like it takes? I have been with groups of people and 10-15 minutes can feel like an etermity because you are saying can we *&^%ing go already.

  27. geo1113 says: Jun 30, 2010 10:08 AM

    @ eastboogieillinois
    Very good advice.

  28. loumann says: Jun 30, 2010 10:17 AM

    lawyers have taught all the punks well……..LIE LIE LIE……THEN APPOLOGIZE WHEN CAUGHT IN THE LIE.
    and all you suckers buy it.

  29. Jigga says: Jun 30, 2010 10:33 AM

    Part of the reason for the timeline is because people in Vick’s camp are saying Vick and Phillips(Co-defendant) never came face to face, whereas there are conflicting reports saying they did come face to face. If the fight broke out closer to the time when Vick left, then it doesn’t look good for Vick. Especially when question of “why did you lie about the timing of when you left” When there isn’t solid evidence yet, people begin to paint a picture, and everything is used in painting the picture to build a case. So unfortunately the “once a person is gone, he is gone” theory becomes vague… Thats how things work in the lawyers office and the courts… Thats said, I hope that homie gets left alone even though I am not a Vick fan.

  30. MidMonster1 says: Jun 30, 2010 10:36 AM

    “I stand by what I said, that Michael was long gone before the shooting, does not know who did the shooting and had nothing to do with the shooting,” Woodward said Tuesday. “Anyone who says any different better be very careful.”
    YOUR client is in danger of being banned for life from the NFL and YOU are telling US to be very careful?

  31. jb10 says: Jun 30, 2010 10:40 AM

    first who says the time on the camera is correct? i guess it is setup to automatically update according to gmt? hell i have a digital camera that i have never set the date and time on.
    secondly it amazes me all these people commenting on was a pos or human garbage or scumbag or what have you that michael vick is. what or who gave you the right? as far as i am concerned those calling names and passing judgment are no better. people in glass houses… some just have larger stones than others.

  32. Kevin from Philly says: Jun 30, 2010 10:48 AM

    Not for nothin’, but has anybody actually SEEN the surveillance tapes? They had a guy on WIP this morning, and the only person talking about what’s on the tape seems to be the guy that owns the nightclub.

  33. booska says: Jun 30, 2010 10:54 AM

    BREAKING NEWS: It is now a crime to be near a crime!!
    Punishable by 20 years to Life of nasty bloggers and hateful but anonymous commentary.
    Hey, it is a crime for a felon who is on probation to hang out with known felons, people with guns, and in Michael Vicks case people who were involved in the Dog Fighting ring. So you should think before really hard and research before you open your mouth.

  34. BlondBlueDevils says: Jun 30, 2010 11:07 AM

    Bwa Ha Ha says:
    June 30, 2010 9:41 AM
    You PFT guys must reaaaaaaaly hate Vick.
    I mean, a lot.
    ——————————————–
    Its not that they hate Vick personally, its that they hate what he represents – a threat to that LAST NFL position.
    If Vick was some insignificant qb like they continue to claim, they would not be so interested or concern whatever he does, because he is supposedly “Insignificant”.
    Therefore, he must be very significant or they are very STUPID and IGNORANT and I think it is a mixture of the two.
    I have never seen a backup qb ever gets so much coverage and attention from both “HATEFUL” so-called journalists and Dog kissers.
    You guys do realize that the more you hate and blog negatively vs Vick, you are helping his popularity whether you know it or not, so your infatuation with Vick is actually increasing his buzz.
    At the end of the day 2 things will remain:
    1. Vick will be rich and famous
    2. You will not
    HA HA HA

  35. GOVIKES|GOVIKES says: Jun 30, 2010 11:13 AM

    What is up with that Falcon’s writer? I don’t know which bothers me more, the fact that he’s pretentious enough to call himself D. Orlando, or the fact that he’s writing a football column wearing a friggin bowtie.
    P.S. I’m glad the concept of innocent until proven guilty is alive and well here.

  36. Jon Evans says: Jun 30, 2010 11:16 AM

    Hey, it is a crime for a felon who is on probation to hang out with known felons, people with guns, and in Michael Vicks case people who were involved in the Dog Fighting ring. So you should think before really hard and research before you open your mouth.===================================
    You should think long and hard and do some research on the legal definition of Associate before you open your mouth. i went over this in the other vick blog, i guess you uninformed individuals ran over here.

  37. BlondBlueDevils says: Jun 30, 2010 11:17 AM

    the AP reported that Phillips was the shooting victim and the New York Post reported Phillips and Vick had a confrontation — Vick may not have necessarily violated his federal probation, said James Garrett, a Virginia Beach attorney who specializes in probation law.
    Garrett said that for a person on probation, a chance encounter with a felon would not in itself be a violation.

  38. dixinpunani says: Jun 30, 2010 11:21 AM

    I am not a michael vick fan or a fan of scumbag lawyers. But all the people who are convinced he is guilty seem to be hung up on the fact that he is stating that he left well before the shooting, 30 min, 20 min, etc…
    And why would an innocent person try to make claims like that?
    There is a simple explanation, he wasn’t there when the shooting happened… so in truth he was “long gone” before it happened.
    But he gets grilled further, and is asked to put a time on it, and not just a vague statement like “long gone”. So Vick asks when the shooting occured and he gets an answer like 2:30am. How many witnesses actually looked at their watch when bullets were flying around? It’s an estimation on their part when the shooting went down.
    So, along with the witnesses estimation and vick’s estimation he said 30 maybe even 20 min. When you get that much estimation and guessing going on you are likely to be off by a few (ie. 7) minutes.
    In truth the only correct answer on Vick’s and Roddy White’s part is that they were long gone. But what good dective/reporter would be satisfied with an answer like that.
    And isn’t it weird that Florio never took a moment to bash the TV producer guy for having his “timeline” of 4am totally destroyed by the video evidence. If Florio is going to say Vick’s timeline doesn’t match up over 7 mins, then he should at least mention that the TV producer dude was waaaaaaaaaay off on his timeline, and wrong in the fact that he said Vick was still there. As always Florio you have reached the summit yet again for poor, biased journalism.

  39. EverybodyGotAIDS says: Jun 30, 2010 11:22 AM

    GOVIKES|GOVIKES says:
    June 30, 2010 11:13 AM
    P.S. I’m glad the concept of innocent until proven guilty is alive and well here.
    _________________
    Innocent until proven guilty 1) Only applies to a court of law. Not the court of public opinion 2) Goes away when you’ve been convicted of crimes which you denied up until the point where the evidence was so overwhelming that you couldn’t object anymore.
    If you lied about everything that you’ve ever done, chances are you’re still lying about the new things you’ve done.

  40. BlondBlueDevils says: Jun 30, 2010 11:22 AM

    GOVIKES|GOVIKES says:
    June 30, 2010 11:13 AM
    What is up with that Falcon’s writer? I don’t know which bothers me more, the fact that he’s pretentious enough to call himself D. Orlando, or the fact that he’s writing a football column wearing a friggin bowtie.
    P.S. I’m glad the concept of innocent until proven guilty is alive and well here.
    ——————————————
    Actually he is an “Uncle Tom” and when I called him out on it, he tried to get me banned………….. HA HA
    I also told him that bow tie went out of style about the same time he was given up for adoption.
    He has and continues to bash Vick just to satisfies his “BlueEyeDevil” fan base, pretty much like this site.

  41. KingOkra says: Jun 30, 2010 11:29 AM

    Just another example of the man trying to keep…nope wait a minute…just another example of a criminal being “near” a crime. You can take the brother out of the ‘hood but you can’t take the ‘hood out of the brother.

  42. EverybodyGotAIDS says: Jun 30, 2010 11:45 AM

    BlondBlueDevils says:
    June 30, 2010 11:22 AM
    Actually he is an “Uncle Tom” and when I called him out on it, he tried to get me banned………….. HA HA
    I also told him that bow tie went out of style about the same time he was given up for adoption.
    He has and continues to bash Vick just to satisfies his “BlueEyeDevil” fan base, pretty much like this site.
    ____________________
    Good thing Vick can run fast, huh? Otherwise he’d be “thug life”ing it up with his “homies”, working the late shift at burger king.
    HA HA HA

  43. Chapnasty2 says: Jun 30, 2010 11:56 AM

    I don’t think Vick can run very fast anymore.

  44. The Hogster says: Jun 30, 2010 12:11 PM

    @BOOSKA – I’m a lawyer who knows what I’m talking about. You’re a loser who doesn’t. Big difference.
    Almost as big of a difference as that between 3 and 10 minutes.

  45. texasPHINSfan says: Jun 30, 2010 12:20 PM

    If they were gone already, how would they know how far ahead of the shooting they were?

  46. TheDPR says: Jun 30, 2010 12:25 PM

    If you leave a place and then something happens, how would you know how long you were gone before that subsequent event happened?
    “I left 20 minutes before the shooting.”
    How the hell do you know how long it was before the shooting if you already left?

  47. mannyfresh209 says: Jun 30, 2010 12:54 PM

    If you’re somewhere, with a bunch of people which you yourself invited, and something happens after the fact you leave, is it THAT hard to imagine that at least ONE PERSON YOU KNOW is still at that event?
    I know to all you illogical drug addicts it probably is. But, anyone that has been out with friends and left and just happened to “miss out” on whatever happened afterwards? I’m sure you found out that “it happened like RIGHT AFTER YOU LEFT DUDE!!!”
    Don’t do drugs, you guys. Cmon now…

  48. Dolphinized says: Jun 30, 2010 12:59 PM

    Believe it or not
    A person will never live down their mistake as long as the self-righteous are sheltered. Those of you who cast stones at the demise of those who have been granted a talent to entertain the world; ONLY EMPHASIZE THE JEALOUSY AND HATRED YOU HARBOR, THAT YOUR PARENTS HAS RAPED YOU THE GIFT OF ATHLETICISM. Any way you slice the Pie, Vick will always be a martyr, because people will impose their hate on him for who is as oppose to what he did. What he did was wrong, but there comes a time when all has to be forgotten except by the self-righteous and the wealthy…Those of you who fit this profile; fear someone of minority having or achieving a level of social status equal to yours, because of their athleticism and talents.
    Stick with the Facts
    Vick has a party for his birthday to which he probably didn’t host-to which the media will never disclose, because that would take all the sail out the ship of haters hoping to castrate Vick someday.
    Two the conflict did not even involve Vick, so why is Vick under fire…now if he didn’t clear being at a bar with Parole at best it is a minor violation and it should be something him and his PO should deal with….
    Three who cares about the time-line, he didn’t commit a crime..but because he once was on top people feel the need to further smash him into the dirt…
    Fourth i am not a Vick fan but it disturbs me the ignorance people still harbor in their hearts in the new Millennium over something so menial…. it takes a lot less energy to Love than it does to Hate..
    Try it peoples

  49. CapsLockKey says: Jun 30, 2010 1:15 PM

    I don’t see why anyone should believe one word out of Mike Vick’s mouth. He bold faced lied to the media and everyone else on multiple occasions during the whole dog fighting hoopla. He will say whatever it takes to try and protect himself.

  50. Chapnasty2 says: Jun 30, 2010 3:22 PM

    Oh I forgot, you cannot harbor ignorance in your heart. It is by definition impossible.

  51. Ryan35 says: Jun 30, 2010 7:54 PM

    BlondBlueDevils says:
    June 30, 2010 11:07 AM
    Its not that they hate Vick personally, its that they hate what he represents – a threat to that LAST NFL position.
    What do you mean? Please explain this statement.

  52. Ryan35 says: Jun 30, 2010 8:01 PM

    He is a POS just like Roethlisberger.

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