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Jets should be pestering the league office to penalize the Pats

At the end of the 2008 season, then-Jets quarterback Brett Favre played with a partially-ruptured biceps tendon.  The condition never appeared on the team’s injury report.

The situation never would have been an issue if Favre didn’t talk about it after the fact

But talk about it Favre did.  And Favre kept talking about it.  When he said that the Jets should have benched him due to the injury, disclosing that an MRI revealed the condition with four or five games to play, the league had no choice but to take action against the Jets for flaunting the rules.

So now that Tom Brady’s personal throwing coach has confirmed that Brady played with undisclosed broken ribs and a broken finger in Week 16, will the league do the same thing to the Patriots?

Probably not. 

Brady was listed on the official report from Week 13 through 17 as being probable to play with “right shoulder, finger, rib” injuries.  And he played.  So under the league’s typically narrow view of the injury reporting obligations, the team complied.

Which brings us back to one of our periodic complaints.  If the injury reporting rules aim to ensure that inside information won’t be available for folks with gambling interests to pursue, the injury reporting rules are failing, badly.

Brady’s case proves that inside information is available.  At a time when the Pats were treating Brady’s finger and rib problems like the same chronic right shoulder injury that has appeared on most injury reports during Brady’s career, the truth was that Brady had broken bones.

To make matters worse, coach Bill Belichick flat-out denied that the ribs were broken, using the occasion to make a personal attack against the person who was reporting that, indeed, the ribs were broken.

Though we realize that the league office needs to tread lightly when it comes to forcing teams to disclose information that, in the opinion of the affected teams, could hurt their strategic interests, the integrity of the game requires that something more than lip service be paid to the fact that a guy is injured.

To avoid the pursuit of inside information regarding the extent of a player’s injury, the league must expect more than a shrugging reference to a general area of the body.  The information must be truthful and complete, or the information is worthless.

So the message here is that, yes, inside information continues to be available to gamblers.  And when the NFL faces its own Tim Donaghy-style scandal, the NFL will have no one to blame for the situation but itself.

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72 Responses to “Jets should be pestering the league office to penalize the Pats”
  1. jimmys79 says: Jul 3, 2010 1:09 PM

    JETS Superbowl, Brady traded, Bellicheck dead

  2. ZombieRevolution says: Jul 3, 2010 1:20 PM

    “So the message here is that, yes, inside information continues to be available to gamblers. And when the NFL faces its own Tim Donaghy-style scandal…”
    The NFL is worth countless millions of dollars, run by guys who have been very sucessful in business and in life, a business that has high price lawyers that make Florio look like a pre-shooler. Yet this site that only exists to wallow in the bad side of the NFL (and 80-90% of the time comment on the work done by others) is going to school the NFL.
    Is the NFL perfect? No, they have made mistakes, but they are out to protect their own interests and a lawyer turned blogger just might not have all of the information to make his judgements with. Hubris-Florio.

  3. SoFlor Steeler says: Jul 3, 2010 1:23 PM

    REALLY slow news day – why not dig up another Ben headline – would probably get more page views than this non story.

  4. GRpatriot says: Jul 3, 2010 1:25 PM

    Florio, take the day off, please!
    Write about something current at least..isn’t there a collusion story you should be working on?
    @Jimmy it’s Belichick! azzclown

  5. SBS0311 says: Jul 3, 2010 1:25 PM

    In theory, this is correct, but, in an overall view, I think the Jets can live with having paid a fine and the Patriots getting the punishment they did in SpyGate.

  6. GRpatriot says: Jul 3, 2010 1:25 PM

    Spygate wasn’t enough for you?

  7. v4vagiants says: Jul 3, 2010 1:28 PM

    Tom Brady’s week 16 stats 2009:
    23-26 267 yds 4 TD 0 INT
    149.0 QB Rating
    The Pats beat the Jags 35-7
    Just guessing here, but if full disclosure of broken anything on Tom’s injury report, then I’m pretty sure the money would have been more in the Jags favor. It doesn’t look like any injury was a problem that day for Tom.

  8. Rory426 says: Jul 3, 2010 1:29 PM

    Let’s summarize this story then.
    The Jets broke a rule and were punished. The Pats didn’t break the rule and weren’t punished.
    Absolute non-story. Slow news day Florio?

  9. bigrig says: Jul 3, 2010 1:29 PM

    Tim Donaghy type activity is most likely already going on.
    Do I think games are fixed? No, but I definitely feel that point spreads are affected at times. Some very shady calls here and there at inoppurtune times [holding, pass interference] leave you scratching your head.
    I would feel a lot better if the NFL made the referees available to the media to explain questionable calls.
    Hell, look what just happened in the U.S.A. World Cup game when that bogus penalty was called to void a goal.

  10. endzoneview says: Jul 3, 2010 1:29 PM

    Still standing by your bogus belief the Jets blew the whistle on Spygate I see. Typical rumor mongerer, can’t even own up to screwing the pooch on that story you resort to pitiful veiled references in this new non story.
    Next.

  11. I♥Patriots says: Jul 3, 2010 1:32 PM

    Hey Florio- the injuries were listed according to the rules. Did anyone actually think Hoyer was gonna play? Why would the league do anything? Brady was on the injury report. Is there a rule that says the reports have list the specific injury? I am pretty sure there isn’t. Get over it already.

  12. darth_vincent says: Jul 3, 2010 1:32 PM

    Patriots = Protected Team —- almost zero chance the NFL will fine them for anything.

  13. Matt Walsh says: Jul 3, 2010 1:34 PM

    Ummmm, stutter stutter, mumble mumble, mumble, uhhhhhhhhh, nothing to see here.
    -Roger Goodell

  14. Triumph40 says: Jul 3, 2010 1:37 PM

    Of course nothing will happen to the Patriots. They are the chosen ones of the NFL and Tom Brady is the Golden Boy. Makes me want to puke.

  15. PATtunya says: Jul 3, 2010 1:42 PM

    Florio, I think you need to call the wah-bulance and change your tampoon along with all those who try to find fault with the Pats. Get out from underneath Ryans desk and fix your skirt. You D.B.!

  16. PATtunya says: Jul 3, 2010 1:45 PM

    Hey jimmys79—
    It’s Belichick. So much for that Autotech school “ed-ju-ma-cation”.

  17. T-Money says: Jul 3, 2010 1:46 PM

    So the Jets actually hid Favres injury and the Patriots didn’t hide Bradys injuries. Why would the Jets complain to the leagues office? You’ve obviously never watched a Belichick press conference because never does he flat out deny or confirm any injury. He just tells the thick headed reporters that ask the same injury questions over and over to look at the injury report because that’s what it’s there for. All he stated was that Charlie Casserly is usually wrong, which he is. You’ve just got your panties in a bunch because you didn’t like the fact that Belichick took a shot at Casserly. I guess you’ve never heard any of the shots Casserly has taken at Belichick. If Casserly didn’t make a lot of mistakes he’d still have a GM job somewhere in a league full of teams that need good GMs. Sometimes your biases take away the credibility of you and this site Florio.

  18. Cephas120 says: Jul 3, 2010 1:47 PM

    Where do you jump the shark from injury reports to game-fixing? You don’t think that other teams are contacting the same people that gamblers do for inside tips on the other teams’ injured stars? I’ll bet half of the league knew about these injuries. The only thing this story says is that “the news media doesn’t do its job very well.”

  19. bonecity7 says: Jul 3, 2010 1:48 PM

    Mike,
    I’m REALLY confused!! Brady was listed as “Probable” from Week 13 thru 17 with “right shoulder, finger and rib injuries”……and he PLAYED (as it was suggested that he “probably” would)………and the Pats somehow violated the injury reporting rules?
    “Typically narrow view of injury reporting”?
    What didn’t they do? Say it was broken? They said that those parts of his body were injured…..What?……other teams will only target injured areas if they’re broken?
    Help me!! I am a PFT supporter (pay my membership dues as soon as I see the bill), am a die-hard Florio-apologist……but you really have me confused here. EVERY injured body part was listed; reported that he was, in effect, LIKELY to play…….and HE DID PLAY!!! What’s the beef?

  20. bonecity7 says: Jul 3, 2010 1:50 PM

    jimmys79 says:
    July 3, 2010 1:09 PM
    JETS Superbowl, Brady traded, Bellicheck dead
    JETS Superbowl, Brady traded, Bellicheck dead, jimmys79 gives head to dogs……
    THERE, FIXED!!

  21. robsterNY says: Jul 3, 2010 1:53 PM

    I dont see how this would do the Jets any good Florio. Bellicheat needs to be dealt with somehow. Because the league certainly seems to turn a blind eye when it comes to the Pats or should I say…Bellicheat. The best thing to do is just stomp them come game day.

  22. GRpatriot says: Jul 3, 2010 2:08 PM

    2009 but the 2008 season! That would’ve been the same year that Favre was with the Jets.
    How can the Jets want the Patriots fined when Favre came out the same Season? Really, Florio aren’t you smarter than this?
    Do you think we’re all stupid? Please, pull that crap on somebody else. It a simply matter of knowing what the hell the date was?
    I guess I’ll have to check all your stories now!
    You and Mankins have issues with what date it is HUH? Trouble with telling the seasons apart? Go with the year the season started makes it easier! 2008 Season the year Favre claimed injuries after the fact! 2008 the year or season the Patriots played the Jags in week 16! Same year! Duh!

  23. j.e.t.s. suck suck suck says: Jul 3, 2010 2:09 PM

    The jets are in the superbowl every year…too bad it’s ass-shaped and made of porcelain.

  24. holycow says: Jul 3, 2010 2:11 PM

    Can’t punish a team for correctly following the league rules.

  25. tnsteve says: Jul 3, 2010 2:11 PM

    I’m usually quick to post negative comments on stupid non-stories, but I don’t think this is one of them.
    I don’t agree necessarily that the Jets need to pursue this. I do feel the league on its own should investigate it. There are so many ex-FBI members employed by teams, why doesn’t the NFL have a staff of these guys to do justice to investigating things like this?
    At the very least, the league office should always have 100% info. If a guy has a broken bone and he’s going to play, the injury report should still give more info than “shoulder” or “leg” and probable. The injury report is a useless requirement if it is not utilized as intended. If it is a sham to say the NFL is trying to keep bad influences from getting inside info, shame on the NFL. What stops these trainers or inside guys from making bets with this info knowing the NFL is only being told “leg” and probable when the guy has a broken bone in his leg – or whatever? And they are NEVER going to be caught!
    Florio, this is NEWS. Please continue this kind of analysis and stop posting crap like you did on Sportsline this week.

  26. efangule says: Jul 3, 2010 2:13 PM

    I think the patriots are one if the worst teams when it comes to following the rules. Given that, even I think this is one of the dumbest most reaching story about how they skirt the rules.

  27. MistrezzRachael says: Jul 3, 2010 2:15 PM

    T-Money hit it right!! Casserly is the biggest FRAUD ever associated w/the NFL…just a miserable , bitter bastard.
    Difference I see between jets and rest of NFL…is that when jets break rules they lie like fools…Starts right w/Tannebaum, who is as sneaky as they come….Everyone else breaks rules, and owns up when caught.

  28. Rick says: Jul 3, 2010 2:23 PM

    how can you write that the Patriots never get punished. They lost a #1 draft pick and were fined for doing something other teams were also doing. Mangina turned rat and the Patriots were penalized. Some people here need to know what they are talking about before they post.

  29. endzoneview says: Jul 3, 2010 2:23 PM

    Florio, if anything you could link this to Bradys contract status. Let’s see, personal throwing coach opening up his yap to defend Brady, a direct violation of Belichciks mantra.
    That sounds like a better bag of crap to throw at the wall to me.

  30. PFTiswhatitis says: Jul 3, 2010 2:32 PM

    Nice try at stirring things up with a headline like that…actually it is lame as hell and exactly what journalism is not.
    But you said it all right here: “Brady was listed on the official report from Week 13 through 17 as being probable to play with “right shoulder, finger, rib” injuries. And he played. So under the league’s typically narrow view of the injury reporting obligations, the team complied.” NON STORY.

  31. SomeFans says: Jul 3, 2010 2:34 PM

    Yup, the Dolphins busted up little Bradys ribs and finger… teach him a lessons for pouting on the sidelines when choking. He look like Albert H. scowling.
    More to come this year. As for the wets…. irrelevant as usual. Nothing but hot air.

  32. afiresnake says: Jul 3, 2010 2:36 PM

    Belichick never denied that Brady’s ribs were broken. He just said Casserly was an idiot.
    Which is no lie.

  33. PFTiswhatitis says: Jul 3, 2010 2:38 PM

    Just more C R A P to get the flamers going.
    But I did like this: “j.e.t.s. suck suck suck says:
    July 3, 2010 2:09 PM
    The jets are in the superbowl every year…too bad it’s ass-shaped and made of porcelain. ”
    LMAO. So true.

  34. Iron Wolf says: Jul 3, 2010 2:49 PM

    If you’re going to try to hate on the Pats, at least run a real story. Many folks here hit it on the head. Belichick will never say anything meaningful to the media regarding injuries and will protect his team from anyone that does. It’s really that simple. To suggest the Jets have some beef here when they actually completely hid Favre’s injury is an act of ass piracy.

  35. gosox2673 says: Jul 3, 2010 2:49 PM

    How dare they cover up the fact that Brady was probable, with a rib injury by listing him as… probable, with a rib injury.

  36. 123456 says: Jul 3, 2010 2:55 PM

    The Pats have always been treated differently.
    From the tuck rule to spygate, the Pats organization has achieved success only through bogus calls and cheating.
    Bill Belicheck has as much credibility as Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf.

  37. patriotscpfc says: Jul 3, 2010 2:56 PM

    Wait?
    You made a story about a team breaking a rule when a team didn’t actually break a rule as it was disclosed on the Injury Report.
    Take a Vacation, Florio.

  38. Dan says: Jul 3, 2010 3:12 PM

    Florio needed to get some traffic on a slow news day. Nice job Florio.

  39. TFBuckFutter says: Jul 3, 2010 3:40 PM

    I still don’t understand why the league is more concerned with gambling interests than with the integrity of the game.
    No team should know the opposing team’s weaknesses in advance. That is just ridiculous. Even if a guy breaks his leg in practice, if the team can cover that up until game time, they should be allowed to.

  40. PatsRPerfection says: Jul 3, 2010 3:40 PM

    First off they listed all the injured body parts, what more do you want Florio??? A more specific injury report?
    Secondly, Charlie Casserly is a know d-bag and I can’t stand him, he makes my skin crawl. The guy loves to run his mouth and knows everything. Charlie always seems to have the answers so maybe we should just refer everything to Casserly. Why even come to PFT when Charlie has all the answers? I can just go to the Casserly report… Charlie is the definition of a slappy.

  41. TheWizard says: Jul 3, 2010 4:06 PM

    the Pats organization has achieved success only through bogus calls and cheating.
    Typical liberal.
    Nobody succeeds by hard work, they all “cheat” and get “favoritism”.

  42. capetide says: Jul 3, 2010 4:14 PM

    Florio” Brady was listed on the official report from Week 13 through 17 as being probable to play with “right shoulder, finger, rib” injuries. And he played. So under the league’s typically narrow view of the injury reporting obligations, the team complied.”
    So, the team complied with the rule, but should be fined……Florio, is this some sort of personal vendetta? Did BB spank you in the media recently or something? ..Embarassing article…Can you delete it before too many others read it?

  43. napgamer says: Jul 3, 2010 4:17 PM

    As much as I hate the Pats and believe Goodell will do as much in his power to ignore Kraft and Bellicheats transgression even I see this as a non issue. Injury was reported on the injury report as required. Nothing more to see here.

  44. JoeSixPack says: Jul 3, 2010 4:48 PM

    The real scandal here is that the NFL forces its coaches to assist the Mafia in setting point spreads… and will penalize them if they don’t go along with it.

  45. ShaKey says: Jul 3, 2010 5:03 PM

    Florio,
    Sportsline, and stories like these? I know the economy is bad, but dude, don’t go down these roads. They can only lead to pain and heartache……

  46. steve g says: Jul 3, 2010 5:14 PM

    I think it is all BS that they report anything.
    Without knowing, I am guessing they report, so everyone who gambles has the same info to gamble with….and not just insiders.
    Well, do you think BRADY wants everyone to know he has broken ribs? If they do, the poor guys ribs are going to be targeted during the course of the game. The reason for this disclosure rule just stinks of too many damn many attorneys! The same thing that is screwing up our country. Too many attorneys influencing law for the sake of making money…
    I used to train race horses. I never had to report to anyone if one of my horses was training a little sore(er) . If the football teams are required to report this kind of stuff why doesn’t everyone in all sports? Especially in a sport like football, I think it is an idiotic rule……and Floria is making way to much out of nothing.

  47. EverybodyGotAIDS says: Jul 3, 2010 6:05 PM

    I guess I don’t understand what the issue here is. The league requires teams to disclose that a player is injured. The Patriots did that. They require teams to indicate the body part that is hurt. The Patriots did that (all 3 of them). They require the teams to indicate the liklihood that a player will play (doubtful – 25%, questionable – 50%, probable – 75%). The Patriots did that. I don’t get it. What’s the issue?

  48. BP says: Jul 3, 2010 6:10 PM

    Hell yeah, if I’m an NFL player I want my opponent to know exactly what is hurt so they can try to F it up some more and put me out for the season. Maybe the league should force me to post my CT scan on Facebook so the opponent can practice the best tactics to mess me up.
    There should be no injury reports.

  49. MLVC says: Jul 3, 2010 6:13 PM

    # Rory426 says: July 3, 2010 1:29 PM
    Let’s summarize this story then.
    The Jets broke a rule and were punished. The Pats didn’t break the rule and weren’t punished.
    Absolute non-story. Slow news day Florio?
    I agree
    I am so sick of this Spygate SH!T and all this petty non football Crap.
    It takes all the fun out of football
    I am done reading this pathetic excuse for a Football news site.
    see ya

  50. JoeSixPack says: Jul 3, 2010 6:16 PM

    Steve G makes a great point….
    #1 – let’s not forget… Brady was listed as probable to play, and he played.
    Where’s the harm in that?
    We’re not talking about a situation in which a team didn’t plan on playing a star player but wanted everyone to think he was playing
    Now let’s look at what the NFL would LIKE to have happen if all teams fully disclosed injury information
    #1 – The NFL would put Brady at risk – inviting defenders to target his ribs, putting his very life at risk
    #2 – The NFL is seeking to assist the Mafia in their point spreads
    #3 – The NFL wants teams to divulge information important to game strategy… what’s next? The NFL requiring that teams divulge what plays they will call and when in the interest of “fairness”?
    There’s a scandal here alright – the scandal of the NFL in bed with the Mafia and putting players at risk in the process.

  51. Bertil says: Jul 3, 2010 6:25 PM

    “Mike,
    I’m REALLY confused!! Brady was listed as “Probable” from Week 13 thru 17 with “right shoulder, finger and rib injuries”……and he PLAYED (as it was suggested that he “probably” would)………and the Pats somehow violated the injury reporting rules?
    “Typically narrow view of injury reporting”?
    What didn’t they do? Say it was broken? They said that those parts of his body were injured…..What?… …other teams will only target injured areas if they’re broken?
    Help me!! I am a PFT supporter (pay my membership dues as soon as I see the bill), am a die-hard Florio-apologist…. ..but you really have me confused here. EVERY injured body part was listed; reported that he was, in effect, LIKELY to play…….and HE DID PLAY!!! What’s the beef?”
    Why, pray tell, are you trying to dispel a perfectly good conspiracy theory with facts?

  52. username says: Jul 3, 2010 6:33 PM

    Huge difference.
    Jets made a false injury report, failing to list a player that was injured.
    Patriots made a completely accurate injury report and then was evasive with the media regarding the extent of the injury.

  53. BriGuy says: Jul 3, 2010 6:42 PM

    This is a ridiculous non-story. Could someone in here advocating for the Patriots to be punished explain to me exactly what rule they broke?
    Now I’m the first one to admit that the current injury reporting rules are a total joke. But it sure looks to me like the Patriots obeyed the rules to a T.

  54. Doctor Connors says: Jul 3, 2010 7:21 PM

    Incredible. The Patriots didn’t do anything wrong, and they still should be penalized?
    Mike Reiss said it best. Everyone goddamn thing is a big deal with this team. The Ravens and Raiders among others lose OTA’s, no big deal.
    If the Patriots had done it, it would have been national news with everyone calling for Belichick’s head. It’s getting really old.

  55. moolah954 says: Jul 3, 2010 8:21 PM

    non story… i bet reading all the Jets hate makes Florio’s nuts wrinkles

  56. TheSleepness says: Jul 3, 2010 8:57 PM

    why the hell would the jets care?

  57. spudz says: Jul 3, 2010 9:23 PM

    Hey Florio….considering you dont have anything to write about today how about doing a story worth talking about….
    Patriots 12 – 4
    Dolphins 9 – 7
    Jets 8 – 8
    Bills 6 – 10

  58. LostSok says: Jul 3, 2010 11:35 PM

    The Patriots were doing something between cheating and just tweaking the edges of the rules…and this is NEWS?
    The Pats would have zero Super Bowls if they weren’t a bunch of cheaters, as their ZERO Super Bowls since clearly attests. The only fans who even still consider them as “legitimate” are the delusional Pats fans who refuse to see the obvious. While Jets fans are much worse–considering their combined IQ is somewhere between simian and simpleton–the Pats fans are far more pointless and comically arrogant.

  59. Mike Daly says: Jul 4, 2010 1:05 AM

    123456 – the Patriots were not treated differently. The Tuck Call was the only call tghat could be made. As for Spygate, Goodell was wrong – he didn’t read the rule, but lashed out because he’s moralistic, takes things personally instead of using real analysis, and was woefully ignorant of football.

  60. Mike Daly says: Jul 4, 2010 1:07 AM

    LostSok – zero Superbowls since says what? Objective reality says the Patriots are not cheaters and never were. Pats fans tell the truth – all you do is lie.
    I’ll spell it out for you – taping from the sidelines IS ALLOWED BY THE RULE. You understand that?

  61. TheWizard says: Jul 4, 2010 1:09 AM

    The only fans who even still consider them as “legitimate” are the delusional Pats fans
    And, of course, the League.
    Dumbass.

  62. Dana87 says: Jul 4, 2010 2:17 AM

    The article is comparing apples to oranges. Favre was said to be hurt the last 4-5 games of the season and said nothing.
    In the 11 games before the injury:
    245/347 (70.6%), 20-13 TD/Int ratio, 7.09 yds/comp, 94.1 QB rating Jets Record 8-3
    In the 5 games he was injured:
    98/175 (56%), 2-9 TD.Int ratio, 5.78 yds/comp, 55.2 QB rating Jets Record 1-4 with the only win against the lowly Bills.
    After they realized his injury was affecting his play, they lied 4 more times.
    In contrast, Brady in the game in question went 23/26 (89%), 4-0 TD/Int ratio, 10.3 yds/comp, 149 QB rating.
    Keep in mind that the record for completion % set by Kurt Warner was 24/26 (92%).
    Clearly, Favre’s injury was affecting his play and the team didn’t report it on 5 occasions, Brady’s injury wasn’t affecting his play and but the Pats took the conservative approach and reported that he was injured.
    To all the people that just spout off saying the league never punishes the Pats, or the Pats get away with everything, review your history and then realize that this time they followed the rules and are still catching crap for it.

  63. FoF says: Jul 4, 2010 7:44 AM

    Of course when Favre does it it creates a 2 week media storm and fines for the Jets. When Brady does it it is “cute”.
    Don’t tell me that a double standard doesn’t exist. Just like how everybody thinks it was “cute” that Golden Boy Brady cheated his way to three SB wins.

  64. FoF says: Jul 4, 2010 7:55 AM

    “Last game of the season: 23-26 267 yds 4 TD 0 INT
    149.0 QB Rating
    The Pats beat the Jags 35-7″
    Running up the score on a team that had checked out weeks before does not a good QB make.

  65. solomongrundy says: Jul 4, 2010 9:14 AM

    I’m going to continue saying this until people get it.
    Every time someone brings up filming as cheating.
    I figure if some forum haunts can spit venom constantly, why not spout truthiness.
    This will be fruitless but, here it goes.
    In a 2006 playoff game, Patriots’ security prevented a Jets camera crew from filming. The crew was there in addition to the cameramen already recording game film from end zone and sideline angles. New England security didn’t confiscate the footage and turn it over to the NFL.(last time that happens!)
    At a press conference, Mangini said the extra camera was there because he wanted game footage from both end zones.(Cheater!!)
    The next meeting (2007), Mangini sells out the Pats.
    Cheaters of the Past:
    Tom Landry—a Giants assistant —tuned into the Browns’ radio frequency, allowing him to call the right defensive plays. Loss of a first round draft pick? 500k fine? Nope, they banned QB Radio helmets. Tom Landry CHEATS? No, this became a ‘Ha Ha put one up on the Browns’ stories.
    Jimmy Johnson said teams could tape signals from the press box, but sometimes the press box was on the wrong side of the field. In that case, the cameraman filmed from the sidelines.
    No worries it is the Cowboys, so It’s cool. Tx football is far better place for a Dynasty than those grumpy New Englanders..what do they know about football up there?
    The Infamous memo misquotes the rules “Videotaping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent’s offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches’ booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game.”
    There is actually nothing in the rule book against stealing signals. Why? Because every staff has done it since the dawn of time. It is part of the game. Halas was known for subterfuge that bordered on criminal–or so the stories go.
    The rule states this:”No video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches’ booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game.”
    Yep guilty..but then the punishment? If the team does better –supposedly without ‘cheating’ it gets fined more?
    If the Pats made the playoffs, they lost a first round pick. If they didn’t, they lost second and third rounders. Interestingly, Goodell based his punishment on how well the team did without the camera. The better they did without it, the worse the punishment got.
    So why the issue? Simple really. Parity. It is not pretty but the league prides itself that worst can go to first, that .500 is what half the teams should be. Watch, some other team is going to go on a decade tear, and remember this, when some ‘scandal’ puts a dent in their armor.
    OK you may now return to Cheateriots, and Rapelsburger. Cuz, that is very constructive football talk.

  66. PATtunya says: Jul 4, 2010 11:09 AM

    There’s no cheating in football. No stick-em, no steriod or growth hormone use, no video taping or spying, no cut blocks, no late hits, no eroneous injuries, no spitting or nut-shots, no gunning for the quarterback.

  67. patriotscpfc says: Jul 4, 2010 3:22 PM

    “Last game of the season: 23-26 267 yds 4 TD 0 INT
    149.0 QB Rating
    The Pats beat the Jags 35-7″
    Running up the score on a team that had checked out weeks before does not a good QB make.
    - FOF
    —————————————–
    Jags were still going for the Wild Card spot at this point, douchebag.

  68. ItalianArmyGuy says: Jul 4, 2010 5:44 PM

    @123456:
    The Pats have always been treated differently.
    From the tuck rule to spygate, the Pats organization has achieved success only through bogus calls and cheating.
    Bill Belicheck has as much credibility as Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf.
    ===========================
    Nice work!
    In fact, the Patsies were never appropriately penalized for SpyGate – I thought this was a post about how they should finally get the penalties they deserve.
    If this was college football, those Lombardi’s would have been stripped, and the Rams, Iggles, and Panthers all would have been getting a silver football on a pedestal shipped to their front offices.

  69. Doctor Connors says: Jul 4, 2010 6:15 PM

    The same Panthers that were caught taking steroids before SB38?
    Oh wait, it wasn’t the Patriots, so it’s okay. Italian chode.

  70. Mike Daly says: Jul 5, 2010 1:14 AM

    Italian Army Guy – there was never anything other than a jihad against the Patriots over Videogate. The Patriots did not violate anything in the rulebook; Goodell reacted because he felt shown up by Belichick and he took it personally.

  71. stanjam says: Jul 5, 2010 1:38 AM

    Umm, looks like the Pats complied to me. They listed his finger and ribs as injured, which they were. Much different from not reporting an injury at all, which is what the Jets did.
    Oh, and being a lawyer you should know this part: BB did NOT deny the injury. What he did was insult a reporter. NOT the same thing. He aksed how often is that reporter correct. He did NOT say that he was incorrect on this occasion. Finally, we do not know the status of the injury. All we have is a person who works with Brady saying his ribs were broken. Is this guy a doctor? Did he look at the X-rays and MRIs? Or did he ask Brady, and Brady said they were broken, or busted up, or cracked? We simply do not know. This isn’t a doctor reporting on a player’s condition.

  72. BCGreg says: Jul 12, 2010 1:32 PM

    The difference here is that Favre himself was disclosing the injury info while in the Brady case, it was someone NOT affiliated with the team. If one of Favre’s buddies had disclosed it, then the Jets could have denied it, and they would not have been punished. But because Favre can’t keep his yap shut, the Jets got punished.
    As far as the idiots saying the Pats won’t be penalized because the league coddles them, aren’t you the same idiots who rebutt Pats’ fans who “defend” Spygate by asking why Goodell fined them the most in NFL history–which is inaccurate–and why he took away a 1st round pick? The argument being that because the Pats were so severely penalized is the rationale for claiming that they “cheated”, thereby saying their titles are tainted. Bunch of hypocrites!
    Stop with the tuck rule too. IT’S A RULE IN THE RULE BOOK. Walt Coleman is on record as saying that as soon as he saw the replay, he knew right away he had to enforce the tuck rule. It may be an obscure rule to most fans, but it’s still a rule. It had nothing to do with coddling the Pats. Woodson should have got to Brady faster!

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