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Tom Brady's quest for a market-value contract

As if we didn’t stir up enough Pats fans recently with our report regarding quarterback Tom Brady’s frustration with the team’s use of his hometown discount as leverage in other negotiations or our opinions about the Pats in the PFTV over-under for the AFC East, we’re at it again with a new PFTV segment focusing squarely on whether Brady will be a Patriot come 2011.

Though we’re not yet ready to predict that he’ll be the focal point of a one-hour ESPN special on a Thursday night in early March, we think that the signs are in place for Brady to eventually be mimicking the Wayne Gretzky career arc.

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  1. SomeFans says: Jul 8, 2010 11:31 AM

    It doesn’t take much to get the poser patzies fans whipped up and foaming @ the mouth.
    After all, they still have to defend the spygate fraud, tuck rule and generally Tom’s face when he doesn’t get his way.
    See the pic above- does he look happy to you? Priceless!***

  2. joetoronto says: Jul 8, 2010 11:32 AM

    The ole gray mare will discard of Brady after this year, it’s just so obvious.

  3. Citizen Strange says: Jul 8, 2010 11:36 AM

    The nanosecond that Brady is no longer the Patriot’s QB is the exact same nanosecond that Belichick goes back to being a below average coach.

  4. Fire Ted says: Jul 8, 2010 11:36 AM

    One word, Pats fans….Ja Marcus (or is it two?)

  5. BenRapistberger says: Jul 8, 2010 11:36 AM

    You’re a complete idiot. MAYBE if they had gotten Tebow like they wanted, they’d groom him this year, Franchise Brady next year (it WILL be back), then Franchise/trade him the following year.
    But with no heir to the throne in place, this guy will be a Patriot far beyond 2011.

  6. lurch's nyquil says: Jul 8, 2010 11:36 AM

    Lets see how Pats fans will defend the coach and owner if this happens. Oh please please let this happen.

  7. ampats says: Jul 8, 2010 11:37 AM

    Hey Some Fans,
    Have you gone out to buy the new Dan Marino Apple I phone ?
    I heard it only vibrates because it has no rings.

  8. getagrip10 says: Jul 8, 2010 11:38 AM

    Somefans…as usual you are a moron. Saying spygate only related to the Pats is like saying arod is the only player on steriods, stop being an ignorant so called fan.

  9. ampats says: Jul 8, 2010 11:41 AM

    Hey Some Fans,
    Have you gone out to buy the new Dan Marino Apple I phone ?
    I heard it only vibrates because it has no rings.

  10. jamaltimore says: Jul 8, 2010 11:42 AM

    did you see the last playoff game? See if he can rebound from that before you start paying him mr. bunchen type money!

  11. CT Pats Fan says: Jul 8, 2010 11:46 AM

    I think a big question is the status of the San Francisco quarterback situation. They are a team progressing in all other areas, and if QB is the last remaining piece, then they’d make a play for Brady.
    It would work for Brady because he’d be closer to his family. History will judge the decision based on his performance, and the Pats performance without him.
    It wouldn’t work for the Patriots, because they’d be losing a Franchise QB with plenty of play left in him. Unless they find another future hall of famer in the 6th round, of course.

  12. Ingloriousbasterd says: Jul 8, 2010 11:48 AM

    Lol@ ampats

  13. Sloan says: Jul 8, 2010 11:56 AM

    jamaltimore says:
    July 8, 2010 11:42 AM
    did you see the last playoff game? See if he can rebound from that before you start paying him mr. bunchen type money!
    ———————————————-
    So based on that logic Indianapolis shouldn’t give Payton a new contract either because he choked in the biggest game of the season.

  14. InBBWeTrust says: Jul 8, 2010 11:57 AM

    I can’t wait till they sign Brady to a huge contract like they will in the next few month, and all of this goes away.
    Manning’s contract situation is no different than Brady’s, where’s the story on that? I know Irsay said he was going to make Manning “the highest player in the league”. Really? Because now he’s backtracking on that saying he cant do anything until the Labor issue is sorted out and that may not be until October. Where’s the story on that Florio?

  15. Runnin' outta fingers says: Jul 8, 2010 12:03 PM

    Living in New England, yet outside of Mass, it will be so entertaining to see all these “rabid” Pats fans return their roots to the Jets and Giants when this inevitable fall occurs.
    However, it was a lot of fun in its own right to see grown me wearing Jets and or Giants shirts w Patriot hats. Classic stuff from a fan base that swears that they were part of the weekly 15k people that suffered watching this franchise debacle in the 80′s and 90′s. By all accounts the stadium should have held 250k people

  16. Sloan says: Jul 8, 2010 12:15 PM

    Citizen Strange says:
    July 8, 2010 11:36 AM
    The nanosecond that Brady is no longer the Patriot’s QB is the exact same nanosecond that Belichick goes back to being a below average coach.
    —————————————
    A below average coach that has 5 rings.
    Good call.
    I guess Bill Walsh was a below average coach also,
    he did not have a winning season till Joe was drafted.

  17. SomeFans says: Jul 8, 2010 12:21 PM

    Hey Some Fans,
    Have you gone out to buy the new Dan Marino Apple I phone ?
    ————————————————
    No, and it wasn’t funnny the 1st time- no need to repeat yourself. You pantywaists are so predictible… can’t defend the questions so just curse away. Shows your overall lack of class and IQ. But, you didnt answer the questions as to is Tom happy?

  18. jersey73 says: Jul 8, 2010 12:24 PM

    @Sloan: Who is Payton??? Did the Colts sign the ghost of Walter Payton???
    If you are gonna try to slam someone, you might want to get his name right.

  19. Sloan says: Jul 8, 2010 12:24 PM

    Runnin’ outta fingers says:
    July 8, 2010 12:03 PM
    Living in New England, yet outside of Mass, it will be so entertaining to see all these “rabid” Pats fans return their roots to the Jets and Giants when this inevitable fall occurs.
    However, it was a lot of fun in its own right to see grown me wearing Jets and or Giants shirts w Patriot hats. Classic stuff from a fan base that swears that they were part of the weekly 15k people that suffered watching this franchise debacle in the 80′s and 90′s. By all accounts the stadium should have held 250k people
    ———————————————
    They have sold out every game since 1994.
    From 1993-1999 they had 5 seasons with a record of .500 or better and a super bowl appearance, I wouldn’t exactly call that a debacle.

  20. GRpatriot says: Jul 8, 2010 12:27 PM

    Florio, you realize the Patriots already have two 1st round picks? Theirs and Oaklands! He has 2 kids now! Kraft understands he needs more time away from OTA’s! I just don’t get the speculation??? Kraft says I’d like it if he were here, doesn’t translate to he must be here! Harrison wasn’t at all the OTA’s and other veterans also. Get real! Nothing you said had any basis in fact! Florio…Do you think BB completely changes the offense every year? No, they tweak some stuff. Run some things more, get rid of what doesn’t work. They don’t scrap the playbook every year? Why aren’t you promoting a move by Manning? Everything you said about Brady applies to Manning. Move on there’s nothing to see here!
    True Pats fans will never, ever be Jets fans. Some old-timers are Giant fans, but no where near the amount of what it used to be!
    Maybe talk about LeBron, do a special…

  21. T A P says: Jul 8, 2010 12:31 PM

    On the bright side for Pats fans, all the frontrunners will be gone the second Brady is. Shouldn’t be too hard to fill Gilette with the 12 remaining real fans.

  22. Timbuk3 says: Jul 8, 2010 12:34 PM

    Speaking of “getting his name right” if you were going on television to talk about how “likely” it is that Brady won’t be back, do you think you might actually do the minimum amount of research and learn the name of the backup QB?
    Wow.
    What next, Florio opens a lemonade stand and forgets to buy lemons?
    You should be embarrassed… that was dumber than most of the comments.

  23. Runnin' outta fingers says: Jul 8, 2010 12:36 PM

    @ Sloan -
    Go back and watch the tapes. Lotsa empty seats.
    Local businesses purchasing tickets I guess would constitute a sellout, but living in the area there is no denying that most Pats fan today are of the Bandwagon variety.

  24. Mike Daly says: Jul 8, 2010 12:37 PM

    SomeFans – who’s defending what? It’s the Raiders trying to defend themselves on the Tuck Rule, and the facts support the Patriots and damn Roger Goodell on Videogate.
    CitizenStrange – did you think that when Matt Cassel was winning with the Patriots?
    jamaltimore – I expect Brady to bounce back from the playoff slaughter last year.

  25. PFTiswhatitis says: Jul 8, 2010 12:39 PM

    “Runnin’ outta fingers says:
    July 8, 2010 12:03 PM
    Living in New England, yet outside of Mass, it will be so entertaining to see all these “rabid” Pats fans return their roots to the Jets and Giants when this inevitable fall occurs.
    However, it was a lot of fun in its own right to see grown me wearing Jets and or Giants shirts w Patriot hats. Classic stuff from a fan base that swears that they were part of the weekly 15k people that suffered watching this franchise debacle in the 80′s and 90′s. By all accounts the stadium should have held 250k people”
    Yeah Pats fans roots are Jets and Giants. That’s fricken rich! Can I have some of what you are smoking please.

  26. Batman says: Jul 8, 2010 12:39 PM

    jamaltimore…so let me get this straight. He is a dominant QB. Top 2. But he has a bad game, and that makes him unworthy of a contract. He has 3 rings. But..he had a bad game vs Baltimore. Boy, what an astute outlook. Look out. I think someday you are destined to become an NFL GM. Idiot!!!
    Brady is in the top 5 best QBs ever. Some “experts” say the best. I am from Boston, I personaly think Peyton Manning or Joe Montana is the best. I am only 34. Tom Brady is a great QB that deserves a big contract. He is the reason they are so successful. Him and Coach Bill. but, so mant Patriots haters just blurt out the latest news to make a point. If they lost a game..then they suck. Basicly.
    And Spygate?..All teams do it..Pats are the ones who got caught first..dont be so naive

  27. Mike Daly says: Jul 8, 2010 12:40 PM

    TAP – there are no frontrunners at Gillette Stadium – the frontrunners are at The Meadowlands.
    BTW, Brady is the highest salaried player on the Patriots. He has no reason to be upset here.

  28. Kevin DuBrow says: Jul 8, 2010 12:40 PM

    is there anything more ridiculous that someone claiming to be a “better fan” than an entire fanbase of a team they dont like? being a rabid fan of anything just makes you a dork.

  29. Nate is Gay for Brady says: Jul 8, 2010 12:41 PM

    Does anyone really think the El cheapo Patriots are going to sign Tommy-boy to the richest contract in league history?
    I think not.
    They will play him this year.
    Franchise him next year.
    And when he is washed up…… cut the dead weight. Cause that’s how Bob Craft rolls.

  30. Runnin' outta fingers says: Jul 8, 2010 12:42 PM

    # T A P says: July 8, 2010 12:31 PM
    On the bright side for Pats fans, all the frontrunners will be gone the second Brady is. Shouldn’t be too hard to fill Gilette with the 12 remaining real fans.
    —————————————————————–
    Nail, meet hammer. Good post

  31. SeriousRadio says: Jul 8, 2010 12:43 PM

    At this point in his career, Tom Brady is no Peyton Manning. He is on the downside of his career, where family commitment is a priority over football. The Pats’ FO knows this, and is in a delicate situation. What is fair compensation for the aging QB who is just one big hit away from IR.
    The Pats have lost their leverage by trading away Cassell and not replacing him with an heir apparent. Brady is no longer an MVP caliber QB who can carry a team like Manning carries the Colts. Brady still puts up nice stats, but how many are in crunch time.

  32. Cro-Mags says: Jul 8, 2010 12:44 PM

    The Patriots are a frigidly efficient organization when it comes to letting players go a little too early rather than getting burned by letting them stay a little too long. Deion Branch, Willie McGinest, Vrabel, Seymour, Lawyer Milloy. They’re actually pretty good at cutting people loose while they still have trade value.
    Brady’s no different.

  33. HC says: Jul 8, 2010 12:52 PM

    @ Florio: your claim that Belichick made the decision to go with Brady over Bledsoe only after the 2001 Super Bowl is factually incorrect. That decision was made several weeks earlier when Bledsoe was cleared to play again after recovering from his injury. In fact, even before the injury Belichick was seriously considering making Brady the starter due to Bledsoe’s poor mobility, tendency to hold the ball low which resulted in fumbles, locking in on the primary receiver, Brady’s quick release, superior movement in the pocket and ability to go through his progressions to find an open receiver.
    Belichick was going to replace Bledsoe with Brady regardless of the Mo Lewis hit or how far the team advanced in 2001; it was just a matter of when.

  34. I♥Patriots says: Jul 8, 2010 12:52 PM

    Florio,
    Why must you always censor me? Is it because I had something intelligent to say? I will try it again:
    Stop trying to get website hits. There has not been any statement made by Brady or Kraft except that they both want to work out a new deal.
    The CBA situation is what is slowing this down.
    What about Manning? Is he “disconnected” or upset?
    The only reason that this is a story is because TFB and Co. bring more hits to PFT.
    Quit sepculating and start reporting facts. Brady did NOT take a pay cut when he restructured, the Pats just moved money around to adjust the cap hit.
    Old deal vs. current deal:
    http://www.patscap.com/tombrady.gif
    Brady will be a Patriot for years to come.
    A question for the PFT posters with brains:
    Would it be beneficial for Brady to wait until his contract expires because of the 30% rule, or would the Pats just structure the deal with huge bonuses. Do roster bonuses count toward the 30% rule? I am not sure of his 2010 cap hit, but i think its around 10 mil, so according to the 30% rule, he could only increase his salary to 13 mil…am I understanding this right?

  35. SaratogaBills says: Jul 8, 2010 12:56 PM

    94′ Lowest attendance level in the NFL, they will eventually be moved to CT like Kraft was going to do, then from there it will be somewhere else. They will never win again because the cant cheat, to think of it the Celtics are the only Boston area team to win anything WITHOUT cheating, this decade. Boston sucks, the women are ugly & all the dudes just want to get drunk and get into fights, because they have chips on their shoulders because they are hung like yard gnomes….hopefully Brady will go somewhere else so we can see he sucks and just a product of a sysytem, a system that only worked when they were cheating.

  36. getagrip10 says: Jul 8, 2010 12:56 PM

    Some fans…i answered all your stupid questions. Is Brady happy? that is your real question, wow you are truly a moron. He has 3 rings and is married to a super model. What do you think?
    Get a clue!!!

  37. gleas27 says: Jul 8, 2010 12:57 PM

    The very notion is hogwash. What’s missing from Florio’s analysis is a complete lack of understanding of dynamics of the the relationships inside the New England organization. Brady truly believes he is working for the best coach in the game, and Belicheck truly believes he has the best QB. What lost in this is (and what jealous Patriot haters choose to ignore) is that the Patriots are a team first organization from top to bottom, if you are not a team guy your out (see Adalius Thomas). Brady is pure team guy, and despite the bad rap he gets from the jealous Patriot haters, he is leader who would never put himself in the way of team success. They will get it done, he retires a Patriot, period, end of story.

  38. PatsFans.com says: Jul 8, 2010 12:57 PM

    This is another piece of conjecture which has no real substance behind it. Unfortunately to hear that a national columnist feels the need to have that as his motivation to write this type of material, it’s certainly disappointing.

  39. overkil2 says: Jul 8, 2010 12:59 PM

    He should have made them pay a premium when he had the chance. Maybe he’ll end up in Cleveland or Oakland.

  40. PatsFans.com says: Jul 8, 2010 1:01 PM

    SeriousRadio is correct, Tom Brady is definitely no Peyton Manning. He’s never thrown an interception for a touchdown in the closing minutes of a Super Bowl to cost his team a championship. Good call.

  41. HC says: Jul 8, 2010 1:06 PM

    Let’s consider how this whole topic started: Michael Silver of Yahoo (who has zero contacts with Brady or the Pats; he burned those bridges years ago) claims there is a “disconnect”. He uses quotes made by Robert Kraft from an article by Albert Breer in the Boston Globe as his ‘evidence’. Compare the portion of Kraft’s quote that Silver used in his column, with Kraft’s entire quote:
    What Silver wrote:
    Contrast that with the comments Kraft made to reporters in March at the NFL owner meetings in Orlando about a potential Brady extension: “Great things happen in life if you’re flexible and not rigid. … We’re balancing a lot of different factors in an unknown environment. We’re not sleeping. It’s just complicated.”
    Entire Kraft quote:
    “Let’s put it like this, Tom Brady is going to be a part of this franchise. He wants to be. We want him. Great things in life happen if you’re flexible and not rigid. We have to find a way to satisfy him and the team, and have a team that can win, big-time. That’s what it’s about. So we’re balancing a lot of different factors in an unknown environment. So we’re not sleeping. It’s just complicated, and it’s complicated for everybody. We hope we do a satisfactory job. But we’ll figure it out one way or the other.”
    Kraft also said this, which Silver did not mention:
    “We’re very lucky to have him as our quarterback and we want him to be our quarterback for a long time into the future,’’ Kraft said. “Everything he represents is pretty special. He’s a winner. We’re privileged to have him a part of the New England Patriots organization.’’
    Silver is Exhibit A of a columnist twisting a quote out of context in order to create a controversy, and increase circulation/web hits/ad revenue. Now it’s been repeated so many times many if not most assume it to be true. Maybe Brady will indeed be traded or become a free agent, but Silver’s theory – and all those after him, including Florio, that form that opinion based on Silver’s column – does not appear to have a valid premise. Read what Kraft says and it’s apparent the team will make every effort to retain Brady. Same goes for Irsay and Manning.

  42. KnuckleBucket says: Jul 8, 2010 1:07 PM

    InBBWeTrust says:
    July 8, 2010 11:57 AM
    I can’t wait till they sign Brady to a huge contract like they will in the next few month, and all of this goes away.
    Manning’s contract situation is no different than Brady’s, where’s the story on that? I know Irsay said he was going to make Manning “the highest player in the league”. Really? Because now he’s backtracking on that saying he cant do anything until the Labor issue is sorted out and that may not be until October. Where’s the story on that Florio?
    __________________________________
    While I agree with the first statement. i have to take issue with the second. Brady has been taking a hometown discount for years while Manning has been getting paid. So there is a bit of difference between their situations. Brady need to be paid.

  43. I♥Patriots says: Jul 8, 2010 1:10 PM

    Second time is the charm, i guess.
    I have no idea why the whole comment turned into a link. Sorry.

  44. Empire Jones says: Jul 8, 2010 1:13 PM

    Would Brady really want to go to a rebuilding program? All the really good teams are set at QB except the Vikings…
    Hmmm… interesting.

  45. Pats_since_86 says: Jul 8, 2010 1:19 PM

    It’s totally ridiculous that this is even posted. You could dub in the word Manning for Brady in every single use of the name and it would be true yet no one is talking about Peyton’s deal?
    Manning has never spent the off season with his teammates because he has a wife and family and IT IS THE OFF SEASON!!
    Manning has never left money on the table to entice teamates to stick around.
    Irsay said publicly 2 minutes after the season ended for the Colts that he would be the highest paid player in the game. Where is that deal? If Brady is indeed the number 2 QB in the NFL doesn’t that dictate that his contract should follow that of Manning?
    The Patriots have never made such a claim on Brady’s deal. They said they would continue to make a contract work in the framework the CBA allows. Go witch hunt the Colts and Irsay and leave the Pats to do their business.

  46. JoeSixPack says: Jul 8, 2010 1:19 PM

    I♥Patriots – thanks for the undeniable truth
    No matter how much Florio likes to say that Brady earned a paltry $3.5 million salary this year the fact is that he earned $13 million last year and $10 million this year.
    Those facts get in the way of Florio’s quest for more hits
    Aside from fans of other NFL teams lack the intelligence to read your numbers or understand that the Tuck Rule remains on the books, and that every team routinely tapes plays and playcalling
    The only question is whether such cry-baby fans are dumb or just ignorant. I say it’s both.

  47. PatsFans.com says: Jul 8, 2010 1:23 PM

    I agree with JoeSixPack – who I know to be a reputable guy.

  48. ampats says: Jul 8, 2010 1:26 PM

    Somefans,
    I only typed it once, Florio must have posted it twice because he knew it was funny but yet true !

  49. Sloan says: Jul 8, 2010 1:33 PM

    SaratogaBills says:
    July 8, 2010 12:56 PM
    94′ Lowest attendance level in the NFL, they will eventually be moved to CT like Kraft was going to do, then from there it will be somewhere else. They will never win again because the cant cheat, to think of it the Celtics are the only Boston area team to win anything WITHOUT cheating, this decade. Boston sucks, the women are ugly & all the dudes just want to get drunk and get into fights, because they have chips on their shoulders because they are hung like yard gnomes….hopefully Brady will go somewhere else so we can see he sucks and just a product of a sysytem, a system that only worked when they were cheating
    ———————————————-
    Perfect example of why they should not let 12 year olds have access to the internet.

  50. CKL says: Jul 8, 2010 1:40 PM

    # Sloan says: July 8, 2010 12:15 PM
    Citizen Strange says:
    July 8, 2010 11:36 AM
    The nanosecond that Brady is no longer the Patriot’s QB is the exact same nanosecond that Belichick goes back to being a below average coach.
    ——————– ——————- A below average coach that has 5 rings.
    Good call.
    I guess Bill Walsh was a below average coach also,
    he did not have a winning season till Joe was drafted.
    _______________________________
    Nice one Sloan. I will never get how some fans fail to understand that in a true team sport like football, all things are symbiotic. Brady and BB are BOTH big parts of the team’s success and it is likely NEITHER would have had such success without the other.
    I agree with HC…I don’t think Bledsoe was EVER BB’s type of QB. He was going to get the hook eventually for another QB whether it was Brady or someone else.

  51. HC says: Jul 8, 2010 1:52 PM

    I think ths “Brady has been giving the team hometown discounts” is one of those opinions that gets repeated so often it is simply accepted as fact – but actually there’s no evidence to support that claim.
    Brady signed for six years and $60 million in 2005. The salary cap was $85 million then. That represents about 12% of the cap; how does anyone figure that to be a ‘hometown discount’?
    Since then the cap has jumped 50% to $128 million last year. That escalation is the whole reason owners opted out of the CBA. Obviously any contract signed in 2005 is going to look small when compared to contracts signed now; just look at how much the cap increased: $10 million per year then is equivalent to $15 million per year now.
    Another myth about Brady and his contract is that by restructuring his contract he made less money; absolutely not true. When he restructured to make cap space for Moss, money that had been designated as salary became designated as signing bonus. Not only did he not lose any money, he actually ended up making $2.7 million per after doing that.

  52. SeriousRadio says: Jul 8, 2010 1:55 PM

    Patsfan.com, knowledgeable football fans know that Manning threw to a spot where the receiver ( Wayne) was supposed to fill. Manning did his job, but the receiver didn’t run the route correctly. That wasn’t as bad as the INT that Brady threw that effectively ended the 2006 AFCCG. Or the futile bombs that a paniced Brady threw at the end of the Pats-Giants SB when a shorter route might have provided an opportunity for a tying FG. Brady is a still fine QB, but the Pats have to decide how much they are willing to leverage their future with a potentially crippling 100M contract for a player who may not play more than a couple of more years. Tom Brady doesn’t need football for a successful life. Wouldn’t your life goals be in a different direction if you had his wife and his celebrity lifestyle? I’m just saying that Peyton Manning’s life is still focused on football for the foreseeable future. He is a fooball geek – Brady has a much fuller life to live.

  53. Ufanforreal says: Jul 8, 2010 2:03 PM

    # InBBWeTrust says: July 8, 2010 11:57 AM
    I can’t wait till they sign Brady to a huge contract like they will in the next few month, and all of this goes away.
    Manning’s contract situation is no different than Brady’s, where’s the story on that? I know Irsay said he was going to make Manning “the highest player in the league”. Really? Because now he’s backtracking on that saying he cant do anything until the Labor issue is sorted out and that may not be until October. Where’s the story on that Florio?
    Just like a bandwagon Pats fan when the heat is on change the subject.
    Your knowledge of the game is just like most of the bandwagon Pats fans, just so you know Wayne didn’t complete his route run which was why there was a interception to begin with.

  54. ItalianArmyGuy says: Jul 8, 2010 2:17 PM

    Hey Tom Brady – Come to Pittsburgh – you can win an actual, legitimate Super Bowl. No asterisks.
    That’s a Bona-fide money-back guarantee, pal
    Your friend,
    ItalianArmyGuy

  55. getagrip10 says: Jul 8, 2010 2:25 PM

    Italian army guy
    what asteriks are you talking about? are you still talking about spygate, are you 13 yrs old or 10 yrs old? I hope you are still a teenager, because your ignorance is unreal.

  56. I♥Patriots says: Jul 8, 2010 2:25 PM

    LOL @ ItalianArmyGuy!!!
    Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t it you that said Brady was a “system QB” who can’t win anything without cheating?
    It could have been another misguided, uneducated Steeler fan though.

  57. Sloan says: Jul 8, 2010 2:26 PM

    Ufanforreal says:
    Just like a bandwagon Pats fan when the heat is on change the subject.
    Your knowledge of the game is just like most of the bandwagon Pats fans, just so you know Wayne didn’t complete his route run which was why there was a interception to begin with.
    ————————————————
    OR….
    Hurried by the Saints’ blitz, Manning fired a pass to the slanting Wayne, but Porter broke first.

  58. Ufanforreal says: Jul 8, 2010 2:33 PM

    # GRpatriot says: July 8, 2010 12:27 PM
    Florio, you realize the Patriots already have two 1st round picks? Theirs and Oaklands! He has 2 kids now! Kraft understands he needs more time away from OTA’s! I just don’t get the speculation??? Kraft says I’d like it if he were here, doesn’t translate to he must be here! Harrison wasn’t at all the OTA’s and other veterans also. Get real! Nothing you said had any basis in fact! Florio…Do you think BB completely changes the offense every year? No, they tweak some stuff. Run some things more, get rid of what doesn’t work. They don’t scrap the playbook every year? Why aren’t you promoting a move by Manning? Everything you said about Brady applies to Manning. Move on there’s nothing to see here!
    True Pats fans will never, ever be Jets fans. Some old-timers are Giant fans, but no where near the amount of what it used to be!
    Maybe talk about LeBron, do a special…
    —————————————————-
    Why aren’t you promoting a move by Manning? Everything you said about Brady applies to Manning.
    —————————————————-
    No it doesn’t for unlike Brady, Peyton has been to all OTA and anything Colts related.

  59. Ufanforreal says: Jul 8, 2010 2:38 PM

    Sloan says: July 8, 2010 2:26 PM
    OR….
    Hurried by the Saints’ blitz, Manning fired a pass to the slanting Wayne, but Porter broke first.
    ——————————————————
    You can try to feed that BS all you want but all you need to do is watch the game video and that proves your theory wrong, after all watching videos is what you guys do best isn’t.

  60. getagrip10 says: Jul 8, 2010 2:44 PM

    Serious radio…honestly ask any Giants fan about the first bomb Brady threw in that Superbowl, that wasd a drop on moss and no one else. There are not too many qbs who can throw that ball.
    Manning was suppose to lead the reciever it was a slant, and porter jumped it.

  61. HC says: Jul 8, 2010 2:47 PM

    The teams that have had the most success in the salary cap era – the Colts, Steelers, and Patriots – are taking a wait-and-see approach to big money contracts; they want to know what the new cap is first. It is the teams that have been wildly inconsistent during that same time period that are signing players to big contracts without waiting to see what the new cap will be first.

  62. Sloan says: Jul 8, 2010 3:03 PM

    Ufanforreal says:
    July 8, 2010 2:38 PM
    Sloan says: July 8, 2010 2:26 PM
    OR….
    Hurried by the Saints’ blitz, Manning fired a pass to the slanting Wayne, but Porter broke first.
    ——————– ——————– ————–
    You can try to feed that BS all you want but all you need to do is watch the game video and that proves your theory wrong, after all watching videos is what you guys do best isn’t.
    ————————————————-
    Typical Manning apologist, its always the O-line or the receiver. Peyton is not capable of making a bad play.
    How about we just give credit to Porter for making a good play and call it even.

  63. Actlikea2yrold says: Jul 8, 2010 3:06 PM

    I love it!!! The Pat’s continue to unravel, I say dont pay him. I mean who the hell is Tom Brady to Old Grey Hoodie? I envy’d that franchise for the team concept they had, and it serve’s Brady right to not get the contract he is looking for anyway. Come on Tom, be a team player. You flurished by the sword, now die by it.

  64. ItalianArmyGuy says: Jul 8, 2010 3:20 PM

    @I♥Patriots
    LOL @ ItalianArmyGuy!!!
    Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t it you that said Brady was a “system QB” who can’t win anything without cheating?
    It could have been another misguided, uneducated Steeler fan though.
    ====================
    Hell, even Bradshaw and Roethlisberger could win titles in Pittsburgh. Whatever amount of spare brain cells Brady has that aren’t involved in bedding super-models, it’s got to be more than both Ben and Terry combined

  65. JimmySmith says: Jul 8, 2010 3:34 PM

    When Brady wins a Superbowl without the aid of illegal video taping, then I will be impressed.

  66. Bious says: Jul 8, 2010 4:16 PM

    The Pats are nowhere near as good as they used to be so another average year for them and they may not be willing to give Brady the HUGE deal that he wants causing more problems

  67. SomeFans says: Jul 8, 2010 4:39 PM

    True Pats fans will never, ever be Jets fans. ”
    Question is “who” are these “true pats fans.” You mean the ones since 2001? The ones that stream out of their stadium early when they lose?
    Oh, those. thought so.

  68. TheSleepness says: Jul 8, 2010 5:30 PM

    No player is worth 2 first round picks past their prime. not even the mighty Brady

  69. SeriousRadio says: Jul 8, 2010 5:55 PM

    Those are the same whining Pat fans who demanded the Pats cut Cassell after he had a poor preseason in 2008. He led them to an 11-5 record in 2008 after Brady’s season was ended in the first game.

  70. Timbuk3 says: Jul 8, 2010 6:09 PM

    @ Bious
    another average year for the Pats?
    That will be awesome!
    Division champs and likely conference champs, maybe superbowl. Your team should have it so good.

  71. realityonetwo says: Jul 8, 2010 6:37 PM

    What’s the market value for a washed up, overrated piece of crap?

  72. TheWizard says: Jul 8, 2010 6:51 PM

    When Brady wins a Superbowl without the aid of illegal video taping, then I will be impressed.
    3 just ain’t good enough, huh?
    Sorry son, can’t fix stupid.
    Thanks for playing.

  73. BCGreg says: Jul 8, 2010 10:45 PM

    @ TAP and Runnin’ outta Fingers
    I went to a Patriots game in 1991 against the chiefs (maybe it was 1990) where Steve Deberg had 200 passing yards in the first 8 minutes of the game, and I can assure you that there were more than 12 people there.

  74. BCGreg says: Jul 8, 2010 10:48 PM

    @ SaratogaBills
    My yard Gnome is a frikkin tripod and you still live in Saratoga so shut the f*** up.

  75. BCGreg says: Jul 8, 2010 11:00 PM

    @ Italian Army Guy
    If Brady does go to Pittsburgh, maybe you can show him the best places with the biggest bathroom stalls in the city to rape college chicks too. And you WOULD know the places with the biggest bathroom stalls.
    You piece a s***.

  76. GRpatriot says: Jul 9, 2010 2:02 PM

    IAG I thought you said Brady was going to Oakland??? Now, you want him in Pittsburgh..
    Can’t blame you though, he has a winning record at Hienz…LOL

  77. BP says: Jul 10, 2010 2:10 PM

    I’m concerned that the Colts haven’t signed Manning yet. I think we have to realize the possibility that they may franchise him exists. After all, unlike Brady, he has a history of demanding every last dollar.

  78. Jarod says: Jul 12, 2010 9:06 AM

    Ok if the Pats really wanted to get rid of Brady then why didn’t they keep Matt Cassell instead of shipping him to KC. There not gonna get rid of Brady there waiting on Peyton contract. Seriously they would of kept Matt Cassel if they want to get rid of Brady. This discussion of Brady going is crazy.

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