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Cris Carter says Brett Favre doesn't need training camp

For an ESPN NFL analyst who doesn’t show up much if at all on the air during the offseason, we’re sure hearing a lot late from former Eagles, Vikings, and Dolphins receiver Cris Carter.

Carter recently defended Favre’s handling of the latter days of his career.

OTAs and all that stuff, they are overrated,” Carter said recently at workouts organized by Larry Fitzgerald, per Judd Zulgad of the Minneapolis Star Tribune.  “It’s really hard to decide
if you’re going to play this game, like how long you are going to play?  There is a strategy for how to get in this league, there ain’t no
strategy how to get out. . . .  He’s one of the rarest of rares in a rare
group.  That he can still at this age, play at a level that we saw him
play 15 years ago. . . .”

Asked when Favre may show up for training camp, Carter said, “What difference does that make?”

A reporter said in response, “None.”

“Why doesn’t somebody write that?” Carter said. 

“You play 20 years in the National Football League, you know what
training camp [is about and] you know how to get through the season,” Carter added.  “Do
you think somebody is going to teach him something new at Mankato? . . .  Football players, we have a great
understanding to realize that it’s not a square peg, it’s not a round
hole, it’s somewhere in between and we adapt to it.  And we’re going to
adapt to Brett Favre. . . .

“If he decides to come [back] – which he’s going to definitely come
[back] – his mind will be ready to play some football and that’s all
you’ve got to concentrate on.  That’s really the deal. Most people try to
make this more complicated.  But he’s a 20-year vet.  This [would be] his
20th year.  Nineteen years in the league. I  mean he knows what he’s
doing and he’s in the same system.”

Carter, though chronically cranky, is right.  Favre doesn’t need to be at training camp.  He wasn’t there last year, and the season turned out incredibly well.  (Though, in the end, not well enough.) 

This year, there’s even less of a reason for Favre to show up for camp.  He knows the offense, and he has a full year in with the team.  If he fails in 2010, it won’t have anything to do with his absence from offseason workouts or training camp.

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  1. Occam says: Jul 10, 2010 3:29 PM

    Oooh, Jimmy Smith….another story about your ex-boyfriend! Say something mean about him, quickly now, quickly…..

  2. Bird Man says: Jul 10, 2010 3:35 PM

    Nice analysis. You really let Cris Carter do the leg work on this one.

  3. twizzlystick says: Jul 10, 2010 3:37 PM

    Florio is a huge Vikes fan which is only natural but aside from that I wonder if he posts so many Vikes stories for all the hits they get or just to mess with Packer fans?

  4. winslow says: Jul 10, 2010 3:40 PM

    I just can’t get enough of Cris Carter’s insights. How does he feel about Kagan’s nomination to the Supreme Court? What about vanilla-flavored Ovaltine? Does Cris like country line dancing? Who was his favorite member of REO Speedwagon? When did he find time to perform plastic surgery on his own face using pliers? Can he do a passable imitation of Kate Jackson? As political allegories go, does Carter prefer Gulliver’s Travels or The Wizard Of Oz?

  5. twizzlystick says: Jul 10, 2010 3:41 PM

    Packer fans go into a quivering rage (and with Packer fans there’s alot to quiver) whenever they think of Favre skipping OTA’s and his teammates not caring and then having a season like he had, 3rd in MVP voting and 33 TDs-7 INTs and NFCC game while Erin goes to camp and all and still can’t win the division or a playoff game.

  6. TexasBubba says: Jul 10, 2010 3:43 PM

    That is so true why wear the old man out before the season even starts.
    Cowboys, Cowboys, Dallas Cowboys!!!

  7. samwise says: Jul 10, 2010 3:45 PM

    I’m sure Cris Carter says a lot of things, but why this is news is a mystery to me. If you keep tweeting this nonsense I might have to unfollow you.

  8. NagaSwan says: Jul 10, 2010 3:48 PM

    Obviously he knows he is such a douche bag that everyone on the team will hate him if he spends any non-game time around them.

  9. bluestree says: Jul 10, 2010 3:51 PM

    “Do you think somebody is going to teach him something new at Mankato?”
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    No, and he won’t be teaching anybody else anything. Does team matter? Or is it, “I’m apart from the rest of the team.” Well that was Favre in Green Bay.
    Reminds me of something Rey Malaleuga said on Hard Knocks about the guy who was “mentoring” him, Rashad Jeanty. It was hard for him because he was also taking Jeanty’s job.
    He said ” Someday, I’ll do it for somebody else.”

  10. prophet of the light says: Jul 10, 2010 3:54 PM

    It’s not that Farve needs it. His receivers need to learn him and from him.
    It doesn’t matter though. He’ll choke in the clutch again anyways.

  11. HC says: Jul 10, 2010 3:54 PM

    The question should not be whether or not Brett Favre needs training camp; it should be whether or not the rest of the team might benefit from his presence at training camp.

  12. PurpleNGold says: Jul 10, 2010 3:55 PM

    Give the young qb’s the reps. Save the wear on the old wise one.

  13. Leroy'sButler says: Jul 10, 2010 3:57 PM

    DIE DIE DIE!!!

  14. WTBucs says: Jul 10, 2010 3:57 PM

    What does he know…all he does is catch touchdown passes…go buckeyes

  15. bigrig says: Jul 10, 2010 3:58 PM

    Obviously Favre isn’t going to show up to camp as long as the Viking front office allows him to run the team. Run it into the ground, that is.
    Favre will once again show up when he feels like it, load up on HGH, be content to give it to Peterson for awhile, then decide it has to be about him and make a foolish play to throw the season down the drain. Again.
    When you’ve watched a movie before, you already know how it ends.

  16. mattgso says: Jul 10, 2010 3:58 PM

    favre, diva

  17. bigbolt says: Jul 10, 2010 3:59 PM

    Was it Cris Carter that coined the phrase “shabacle”…or was that Deion? I hope ESPN doesn’t turn this Favre thing into a bigger shabacle than LeBron’s LeBacle.

  18. scott19699 says: Jul 10, 2010 4:00 PM

    Chris Carter and Jared Allen are both full of shit. They both said last year before lord faver became a viking they wouldn’t want a player to just show up when he felt like it while the rest of the team is busting butt. Not the exact quotes but you get the idea. Oh yeah all the vikings fans who said the fan base is poor in GB look at our waiting list 83,000 plus wanting tickets.
    GO PACK

  19. flop 4 strahan says: Jul 10, 2010 4:02 PM

    I agree with Carter
    Brett does not need training camp to throw soul-crushing interceptions to blow his teams chance at the Super Bowl

  20. domehead says: Jul 10, 2010 4:04 PM

    Though as some point…like, before training camp…I believe the Vikes want to know if he plans to, you know, play football.

  21. flop 4 strahan says: Jul 10, 2010 4:07 PM

    The great thing about the NFL is nobody cares unless you win the ring
    Packers have 12
    Queens have 0
    Nobody cares that you’ve lost 5 NFC championship games and lost 4 Super Bowls
    As John Madden says, “If you don’t win the Super Bowl we just throw you back in the pile w/ the Clevelands and Detroits and the rest…”
    That’s why as soon as ARog gets his 1st ring (likely in the next 2-3 years) he goes down as the 2nd best QB in Packer history (After Bart Starr, of course)

  22. Green n' Gold says: Jul 10, 2010 4:07 PM

    Who needs camp when you already know how to throw it to the other team. Queens fall will be quite fast this year, way over rated.

  23. scra22 says: Jul 10, 2010 4:07 PM

    It’s not even about “needing” training camp, it’s about being a leader, working with your teammates, and being humble. By skipping training camp, prolonging this farce and acting like he still doesn’t know what he’s going to do, Favre appears very selfish and the antithesis of a leader.

  24. jrmbadger says: Jul 10, 2010 4:08 PM

    It’s not the training part of the training camp that I think most people feel is the issue. It’s the fact that Favre is the ONLY one excused. He gets preferential treatment. I think Pat Williams has been around the league long enough to skip camp, yet he is required to go.
    I can’t wait for Favre’s 8 hour retirement special on ESPN. (rollseyes)

  25. WingT says: Jul 10, 2010 4:11 PM

    You tell ‘em Cris

  26. MistrezzRachael says: Jul 10, 2010 4:11 PM

    Cris Carter is full of crap!!…I think he’s back to his OSU & Eagle days when he was known as ‘Cocaine Cris’
    Carter is an example of an ex player who really shouldn’t be on networks…His rants are absurd…and always seem to be geared to those that he foolishly compares himself to ..like S Rice or R Moss…or saying his St Thomas players are better coached than pros.
    Cris needs to clean up his own messes first…starting w/his son, who while talented…is as big a loser as Cris is.

  27. stadanko says: Jul 10, 2010 4:11 PM

    “If he fails in 2010, it won’t have anything to do with his absence from offseason workouts or training camp.”
    That won’t stop Vike fans from using it as an excuse after they get their ass kicked in the Superdome.

  28. jackers252 says: Jul 10, 2010 4:12 PM

    “OTAs and all that stuff, they are overrated,” Carter said recently at workouts organized by Larry Fitzgerald….”
    So either he is lying about the importance of offseason workouts or he is just using the camp for self-promotion.
    He and Favre are one in the same.

  29. Dial-A-Cliche says: Jul 10, 2010 4:13 PM

    That’s why Cris is a highly paid analyst. How is it he realized this and the rest of us missed it completely?

  30. DeathSpiral says: Jul 10, 2010 4:20 PM

    You know, I understand what Chris is saying about Favre not needing camp. I also understand that, perhaps, the only reason the Vikings have Favre is that they are willing to indulge him. If we were talking a different set of rules for the vets, to keep them healthy later in the season, no problem there.
    However, it bugs the h*ll out of me that there is one rule for E-V-E-R-Y other player on the team regarding training camp, and a different one for Favre. Football is preached as a team sport and the good of the team comes before the individual. I have this issue for other players that get the King James treatment as well, not just Favre. i.e. this is not actually a Favre specific issue.
    I played in high school on a team with a different set of rules for our star than everyone else. Didn’t sit well with me, and it still does not. The team underachieved because of it. Granted there is a big difference between Tranquillity Union High School and the Green Bay Packers. Ha.
    So…
    Seems to me Chilly is a bit hypocritical when it comes to walking the walk of putting the team first and consistent application of team rules. The ends (winning) justify the means . Blech. Yeah, I know that if he doesn’t win, then he’s fired. But it seems to me like you’re selling a little piece of your soul to win. Granted, it is not a big love boat sized piece, but I wonder if he needs to shower after he proclaims his love for Brett, and acts like it is not a big deal?
    To Brett “King James” Favre…. Most of this is actually your fault for holding the Vikings hostage and acting like a numb nut. Just say that you are old, nearly worn out, and don’t want to go to camp. At least that would be honest and refreshing, instead of this charade you insist on, every damn year. Brett, you may have a future in politics. You’ve got the emoting, drama, and flip flopping down.
    Like Lebron, it sure looks like you want everyone to kiss your butt every year – please, pretty please play one more year. Play or don’t play, but the theatrics wore thin 2-3 years ago.
    I’m glad you choked up that sand lot interception. I was happy for the saints and football. I was happy because Mr. Separate Rules for himself and the Vikings weren’t rewarded for this cockamamie, codependent, Opra-ish relationship.
    BTW, Chris Carter, there are one thing that Brett can learn. Not sure if he’d get this in training camp, but he sure needs to learn when not to force the ball.
    -DeathSpiral
    PS. I do appreciate Brett Favre breaking Blanda’s career interception record.

  31. krazykjun says: Jul 10, 2010 4:29 PM

    Carter speaks like someone with no rings … just a diva talking about another diva … i wish him and farve would just go away, far far away.

  32. Ambrose says: Jul 10, 2010 4:31 PM

    Prepare yourselves for the new era of me-me-me sports stars, ala Favre and LeBron James. It is only going to get worse. Favre did not apparently need camp last year and he won’t need it this year. Do you know why? It is because he is going to do things his way anyway….which is what he demands and which is what the (desperate) Vikings are willing to let him do. It will be even worse this year than the last six games of last year, when Chilly told him he had the reins. Now he REALLY thinks his crap doesn’t stink..because he won over the hearts of his teammates and fans. Isn’t that special? The pied piper act was last year. Here comes the lemmings over the cliff.

  33. Boudin says: Jul 10, 2010 4:36 PM

    he needs training camp to get back into game shape and up to game speed sooner. did you see his absolutely lackluster performance in week 1 against the Browns last year?
    in week 1 of this year, he’s going up against a team that is light years ahead of the Browns.

  34. JimmySmith says: Jul 10, 2010 4:39 PM

    The issue isn’t whether he needs it, the sticking point is there is resentment on the part of his teammates that Favre gets his own special set of rules, he gets a ride from the airport, gets the head coach to give him a pass at every turn.
    If you run an company, lead a division or coach a football team, successful ones know that there can only be one set of rules. So let the Vikings allow Favre to call all the shots, this simply isn’t going to end well. But that is nothing new for the Vikings, things have never ended well although you have to give them credit for coming up with new and innovative ways of giving the game away, whether its a field goal missed by a player that hasn’t missed one all season or QB throwing an INT on his last pass of the season for three consecutive seasons.
    You can’t lose that often when it counts the most without some imagination, like calling a 12 man formation with the Superbowl on the line. Vikings=Losers

  35. Old_Style says: Jul 10, 2010 4:42 PM

    Shocking!

  36. RC IV says: Jul 10, 2010 4:44 PM

    Here come the cris Carter doesn’t know anything posts.
    The packer turds will be out in full force.
    Carter played the game and played it well.
    But I’m sure the litany of mensa member packer fans know more than he does.
    Carry on turds, we know you will.

  37. prmpft says: Jul 10, 2010 4:49 PM

    …he’ll rethink that after week one – he won’t just j@#o@#$% and just cruise into N.O. & win despite what all you minny @$$#$ think…

  38. robert ethen says: Jul 10, 2010 4:50 PM

    Brett’s just trying to decide if he should skip the regular season or not. It depends on how the other QBs look in camp.

  39. Who is Mike Jones says: Jul 10, 2010 4:51 PM

    This is hardly news!

  40. Runnin' outta fingers says: Jul 10, 2010 4:52 PM

    I would like to point out that sites such as this, as well as ESPN and the like, are now and have been completely responsible for the Brett Favre talk for the last few years. Sure the guy has changed his mind a few times but every angle has been completely exasperated by every sports talking head, leading to the average sports fan to loathe any talk about him, and he always takes the blame. He is responsible for some but not all.
    For whatever its worth I hope he continues to play a few more years. Players like him, especially quarterbacks, are generational and we should caution ourselves before we push these types of players out of the league. He will me missed when he’s gone.

  41. malarkey says: Jul 10, 2010 4:53 PM

    I’m a Packer fan, and I would agree that Brett might not need training camp, but wouldn’t the younger players be helped by having him there?

  42. buhbay1c says: Jul 10, 2010 4:57 PM

    Leave this one alone Packer fans. We all know how you guys liken Favre’s training camp absences to disrespecting his team mates, the organization, and fan base. Get over it, TT let him go and it was the wrong decision. Save your angst for another day.

  43. TheWizard says: Jul 10, 2010 5:06 PM

    It’s true he can get by without it.
    It’s also true it makes him a lazy narcissist who considers himself better than his teammates.
    Wouldn’t want him on my team.

  44. Vikadontis Rex says: Jul 10, 2010 5:17 PM

    Moss should come back to the Vikings this year to play with Favre

  45. Fire Ted says: Jul 10, 2010 5:19 PM

    If he knows he’s coming back, and you know he’s coming back and the Vikings know he’s coming back, so everybody pretty much agrees he’s coming back why doesn’t everyone just STFU and let him come back…who really cares until then?

  46. Hauschild says: Jul 10, 2010 5:37 PM

    Carter’s response should go without saying, but most people are too naive and stupid to not only understand, but care to understand.

  47. poiuyt says: Jul 10, 2010 5:37 PM

    Maybe he doesn’t need it, but what about Favre providing some leadership for others? There seems to be a “company line” about how no one is bothered by Favre not showing up, but I can’t help but believe that the younger players would like to have him there showing them what it takes. Can you imagine an army captain acting like a dilettante and saying he’s above the rest of his men? How about the team’s leader actually leading?

  48. Betow78 says: Jul 10, 2010 5:41 PM

    Longest Championship droughts in the NFL
    Browns-45
    Lions-52
    Cardinals-62
    Vikqueens- Forever
    Face is Minnesota you are never going to win a championship. Stop hating on the Packers cause they have 12, more than any other team. Also digging around in Green Bay’s trash isn’t going to get you any where. I’m glad you got Favre, your putting all your hopes and dreams into the hands of an old bitter man who has a tendency to throw ints.
    Don’t lose all hope, the Vikqueens may win a superbowl someday… after they move to L.A.

  49. GBfanForever says: Jul 10, 2010 5:46 PM

    If this was true how come any veterans show up for training camps? At the same time, why is a big deal if a player isn’t healthy enough for the start of training camp? The law of unintended consequences will blow up in the vikings face as they keep expending so much energy trying to cover for Lord Favre. He puts the “I” in team.

  50. twizzlystick says: Jul 10, 2010 5:53 PM

    I have just been reading some comments from Cavs fans on an espn blog about Lebron James and truthfully listening to these poor tortured souls made me understand how Packer fans still haven’t gotten over losing Favre and how they’re still just as enraged as they were when it all went down.
    You guys and the Cavs fans both feel betrayed and call them Benedict Favre or Bendict James, you’re even putting out angry t-shirts with almost the exact same slams on them but there’s a HUGE difference – James abandoned his city voluntarily even tho his owner was trying to give him everything he could to win a championship whereas Favre technically was traded and even if he wanted to leave it was only because he was stuck with a g.m. who was obviously never going to spend to bring in the players to put the team over the top, plus Favre had to live in a foul smelling town filled with really fat drunken people although we don’t even know if that had anything to do with him leaving.
    So I truly feel bad for the Cavs fans misery but it’s hard for me to feel bad for the Packer fans misery. Maybe if you weren’t all so fat.

  51. funi says: Jul 10, 2010 6:00 PM

    Carter does know how to get drunk!

  52. digitalbath says: Jul 10, 2010 6:08 PM

    bigrig says:
    July 10, 2010 3:58 PM
    Obviously Favre isn’t going to show up to camp as long as the Viking front office allows him to run the team. Run it into the ground, that is.
    Favre will once again show up when he feels like it, load up on HGH, be content to give it to Peterson for awhile, then decide it has to be about him and make a foolish play to throw the season down the drain. Again.
    When you’ve watched a movie before, you already know how it ends.
    —————————–
    was it foolish when he destroyed the packers twice,is it gonna be foolish again when they sweep the packers again,,i guess if ya cant beat em,,,accuse them of performance enhancement,,jealousy does not suit anyone well

  53. Ilovefoolsball says: Jul 10, 2010 6:08 PM

    Lord Favre DOESN’T need training camp, in fact, he doesn’t even need any of the peasant players on the vikings team, he can throw the INT all by himself!

  54. Occam says: Jul 10, 2010 6:11 PM

    “JimmySmith says:
    If you run an company, lead a division or coach a football team, successful ones know that there can only be one set of rules.”
    That may be the case if you work in fast food or at the local Pep Boys, but in the business world, good employees are most certainly able to set their own rules. I’ve been doing it for years. :)

  55. Catamount says: Jul 10, 2010 6:15 PM

    What about team chemistry? What about going through the trenches with your teammates–bonding, if you will? What about establishing a legacy and helping the other QBs and WRs? Not important when your concern is Brett and not the Vikings.

  56. royale2k100 says: Jul 10, 2010 6:16 PM

    I don’t get why people are saying that Favre is at training camp… well just not that training camp. He’s at a better training camp at a local HS throwing passes to 15 year old kids. It’s apparent he likes those recievers better than the scrubs he has to throw to in Vikings camp.

  57. vikings=worstfranchiseandfans says: Jul 10, 2010 6:22 PM

    Chris Carter doesn’t know shit from crisco, but it doesn’t keep that one eyebrow wearin’ dope from shutting up!
    figures….he was a queen!

  58. vikings=worstfranchiseandfans says: Jul 10, 2010 6:37 PM

    hey twizzlystink…
    I’d rather be fat than stupid like you.
    As Ron White once said – “you can’t fix stupid.”

  59. WacktheQueens says: Jul 10, 2010 6:37 PM

    Isn’t Carter a coke nose?

  60. pervy harvin says: Jul 10, 2010 6:48 PM

    12 Championships …yep….too bad most were when football was a prehistoric joke…1929, 1930,1931, 1936, 1939, 1944, 1961, 1962, 1965, 1966, 1967 and 1996. One that counts by anyone with brains would say(1996)
    1929- The Great Crash on Wall Street!
    1930-The dedication of George Washington’s head is held at Mount Rushmore.
    1931-Thomas Edison submits his last patent application.
    1936-Nazi Germany reoccupies the Rhineland
    1939-Brett Favre is born
    1944-Anne Frank is sent to concentration camp
    1961-East Germany erects the Berlin Wall
    ….think you get it, all that shit is ancient and means jack…. you have one in the last 43 years.Congrats!!!!!

  61. pervy harvin says: Jul 10, 2010 6:55 PM

    11 of the Packer Championships = fossilized dinosaur shit

  62. claytonbigsby says: Jul 10, 2010 7:00 PM

    ESPN already has the “BREAKING NEWS” segment – “Favre comes back for another season” – done and ready to go!

  63. bigrig says: Jul 10, 2010 7:02 PM

    If I’m a Viking O-lineman and I’ve been sweating my nads off for 5 or 6 weeks while Mr. Superstar was lounging at home with his family, I might be inclined to ole’ a block or 2 in the pre-season just so Brett can get game ready, if you get my drift.
    Especially after His Royal Highness threw that bonehead pick trying to make it all about him instead of getting 4 or 5 yards for a FG try.

  64. slegeir says: Jul 10, 2010 7:09 PM

    Of course he’s not going to be in training camp. He’s above everyone else on the team. I’d be mad as hell if I were the teammates. NOT FAIR!!!!!

  65. twizzlystick says: Jul 10, 2010 7:12 PM

    And another thing, I don’t know if you guys realize how ridiculous you sound going on about titles Green Bay won when there were like 4 teams in the whole league.
    I’m a Twins fan too but when I’m arguing with friends who are fans of other teams I never bring up the Twins World Series because I was 1 year old the last time they won a World Series, in other words it was before my time.
    We actually argue about who has the better team today. In the present. You Packer fans who drone on about the good old days sound like a dad who can’t beat you in basketball anymore so all he can do is grumble about how good he used to be.
    If your team isn’t good anymore don’t blame us for beating you, maybe blame your crappy g.m. for being so cheap.

  66. Sterling says: Jul 10, 2010 7:14 PM

    Stop comparing Favre to LeBron. Favre WANTED to stay in Green Bay; LeBron CHOSE to leave Cleveland. If the Green Bay Packers had wanted Favre, they would have kept him. Packers fans need to stop whining. It was the PACKERS who chose to get rid of Favre, not the other way around. Favre would still be there if not for Ted Thompson. Once Favre left Green Bay, all bets were off. You have no right to say he shouldn’t be playing in Minnesota. Why should he show the Packers any loyalty? They showed him NONE, after he played every single game with broken bones, torn ligaments, you name it.
    And I am a Packers fan.
    In the end, football is a business. Brett wanted to play, Green Bay didn’t want him, he went to a team that did. ‘Nuff said. So Packer fans, STOP YOUR WHINING and your mean-spirited crap. Everyone knows the Vikings’ 5 fumbles, not Brett’s INT, lost that game for them in the NFC championship. And hey, even though they lost, at least they were THERE. There were 14 other teams that couldn’t say that, including the Packers.

  67. twizzlystick says: Jul 10, 2010 7:20 PM

    And another thing, I don’t know if you guys realize how ridiculous you sound going on about titles Green Bay won when there were like 4 teams in the whole league.
    I’m a Twins fan too but when I’m arguing with friends who are fans of other teams I never bring up the Twins World Series because I was 1 year old the last time they won a World Series, in other words it was before my time.
    We actually argue about who has the better team today. In the present. You Packer fans who drone on about the good old days sound like a dad who can’t beat you in basketball anymore so all he can do is grumble about how good he used to be.
    If your team isn’t good anymore don’t blame us for beating you, maybe blame your crappy g.m. for being so cheap.

  68. twizzlystick says: Jul 10, 2010 7:22 PM

    And another thing you Packers fans, do something about your personal hygiene! I’m not trying to be harsh but Jesus enough is enough.

  69. bluestree says: Jul 10, 2010 7:24 PM

    Chris Carter is a hypocrite.
    At the rookie symposium he told the new guys “You need to be in camp! I don’t care what Brett Favre says!”.
    I tried to find it on the website but it wasn’t there. It wasn’t in the main piece, it was the teaser as they went to commercial. Anybody else see it?
    -0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0
    On a side note, has anyone ever beem booed at their HOF induction? I don’t mean Carter, he’s gonna have to wait longer than Art Monk.

  70. DirtDawg55 says: Jul 10, 2010 7:37 PM

    He might not need training camp, but that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be at it. Others could benefit from his almost 20 years of knowledge. He could help the other QBs on the roster develop their skills so that they are more capable when called upon. He could get in at least a few reps with his receivers. He could help the team gel together. He could help rookies adjust to the game. There are so many things he could do, if only he chose to do them.
    Instead he chooses to do none of that. Pure and simple. He’s selfish. He’s focused solely on what matters to him.
    He’s the only veteran player in the league that “hold out”, year after year, for the express purpose of not participating in camp. I don’t know of a single long-term veteran player in any other league that pulls this crap on a consistent, year-in, year-out basis.

  71. bigrig says: Jul 10, 2010 7:37 PM

    @DigitalBath
    I’m not a Packer fan, just so you know.
    And if you clowns think Favre is just magically recovering week to week to stay in the lineup, well I guess then you don’t want to know the truth.
    How does Favre seperate his shoulder so bad in ’07 that he has to come out against Dallas and can’t finish? Yet there he is the next week, back in the starting line-up to heroically keep his starting streak alive.
    Pull your heads out of your asses a wake up to the realities of professional sports in the 21st century.
    The Olympics, bike racing, baseball, football, it’s all there for you to see. Sorry if I shattered your illusion that Brett is super human.

  72. Boo Hoo Florio picked on your team - GET OVER IT says: Jul 10, 2010 7:37 PM

    Whatever Cris Carter gets paid, it’s $2 million too much.
    Brett Favre needs to be in camp. Trust among teammates is fostered by toiling, working, sweating together. His receivers need that chemistry with him and to work on their routes and collective timing. The offensive line needs to get used to handling Brett’s cadence and footwork. Leadership isn’t defined by the guy who walks in the door last. It’s defined by the guy who lives and breathes team football.
    That is not what Brett is doing by any means.

  73. pervy harvin says: Jul 10, 2010 7:43 PM

    Sterling” The Truth” Packer fan…you must have some MN blood in you….

  74. WacktheQueens says: Jul 10, 2010 7:49 PM

    pervy harvin ,
    Your a totel loser man! Get a life, no gives a sh!t on this site what you think. Your a Douche. Past championships are better than a bid fat zero your homo. The color purple sucks. & so does the HHD you loser.

  75. jimmySee says: Jul 10, 2010 7:51 PM

    flop 4 strahan says:
    July 10, 2010 4:07 PM
    The great thing about the NFL is nobody cares unless you win the ring
    Packers have 12
    Queens have 0
    Nobody cares that you’ve lost 5 NFC championship games and lost 4 Super Bowls
    As John Madden says, “If you don’t win the Super Bowl we just throw you back in the pile w/ the Clevelands and Detroits and the rest…”
    That’s why as soon as ARog gets his 1st ring (likely in the next 2-3 years) he goes down as the 2nd best QB in Packer history (After Bart Starr, of course)”
    You had me until that last line there.
    Ring or no ring — Aaron has a long way to go to eclipse Brett in green and gold. Never forget your past.
    Was Steve Young better than Joe Montana? In the end, who really cares.

  76. sixburghrules says: Jul 10, 2010 8:00 PM

    But what about timing with receivers? Not everyone can catch Favre’s ball

  77. Little Tommy says: Jul 10, 2010 8:08 PM

    We’ll see what happens. Knock him on his ass a few times early and we’ll see how he bounces back. Also, we better not hear any bullshit about “timing being off” because that’s what preseason is about!
    His Excellency is going to step on the field for the first regular game and lead them? This I gotta see!
    This whole Favray thing is bullshit!

  78. pervy harvin says: Jul 10, 2010 8:27 PM

    @ WacktheQueens – I would rip you a new one but I don’t believe in child abuse. Quite obvious you are a minor. Go back to your I Carly junior….

  79. bluestree says: Jul 10, 2010 8:48 PM

    Sterling says:
    July 10, 2010 7:14 PM
    Stop comparing Favre to LeBron. Favre WANTED to stay in Green Bay
    ————————————-
    No he didn’t you misguided fool! Favre started plotting his way out of Green Bay long ago. He first pondered finishing his career elsewhere in 2004, and when Ted showed up and drafted ARod, and then McCarthy started coaching him hard about his carelessness with the ball, he started talking to Bevell and Longwell and the other sour grapes syncophants that Ted sent down the road. Don’t you remember after he threw 29 (!?!!) picks in ’06 the local press asking McCarthy what he was going to do about it?
    The whole retirement thing was a ploy, just like his retirement from the Jets. “I’ll never play again.” Lie. Flat out, he lied. Twice. He knew he was going to ask for his release and go to Minnesota all along.
    Football fans follow teams, celebrity worshipping star struck paparrazi wannabes follow players.
    Oh yeah, and in the OT of the ’07 championship, your hero quit. He got too cold and threw the ball away. He was tired of the cold, tired of Green Bay, and had Bevell whispering in his ear. He shit all over you and now you’re here going “thank you sir, may I have another.” Get a clue.

  80. Walleyeman says: Jul 10, 2010 8:52 PM

    Of course he don’t need to be at camp, he knows how the season will end anyway, the same that it always does, with a big ol INT. The way the Vikings pick up all of the Players the Packers cut, I bet they cannot wait for the pack to let Rodgers go in 10 to 12 years. Rodgers is their QB of the future!!

  81. pervy harvin says: Jul 10, 2010 8:58 PM

    bluestree, do you know who the hell i am? Let me paint a pic for you….
    Chilly: Look Pervy, we can’t have you running around out there killing Packer fans.
    Pervy: There are no friendly Packer douchers!
    Chilly: But I’m your friend Pervy! I was there with you knee-deep in all those lost championships. I covered your ass more than once. Seems like baling you out of trouble’s got to be a life-time achievement for me.
    Pervy: There wouldn’t be no trouble except for that dumb shit bluestree! All I wanted was something to post. But the man kept pushing Sir.
    Chilly: Well you did some pushing on your own Pervy.
    Pervy: They drew first blood, not me.
    Chilly: Look Pervy, let me come in and get you the hell out of there!
    Pervy: They drew first blood…
    Chilly: Strictly speaking, he slipped up. You’re lucky to be breathing.
    bluestree: That’s just great. Colonel Klink, you came out here to find out why one of your fans blew a gasket!
    Chilly: You don’t seem to want to accept the fact you’re dealing with an expert in Internet warfare, with a fan who’s the best, with words, with phrases, with his typing hands. A fan who’s been trained to ignore losses, ignore insults, to live off the parking lot, to eat tail gate food that would make a billy goat puke. It was his job to dispose of Packer fans. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well Pervy was the best.
    bluestree: Are you telling me that 200 of our fans against your boy is a no-win situation for us?
    Chilly: You send that many, don’t forget one thing.
    bluestree: What?
    Trautman: A good supply of anti-virus!

  82. SaintsBaby says: Jul 10, 2010 9:10 PM

    sixburghrules says:
    July 10, 2010 8:00 PM
    But what about timing with receivers? Not everyone can catch Favre’s ball
    ==================================
    The opposing teams defense can time him pretty well…lol………RENT-A-PICK qb

  83. SaintsBaby says: Jul 10, 2010 9:22 PM

    So by the logic of this story, any veteran qb that has been on a team for only one year can skip training camp and show up any time they want. I wonder why no one else in the league does this but Favre? I think that every other player has more respect for themselves and their team. That says alot about the way the Vikings and Favre do business.

  84. PurpleRaid12 says: Jul 10, 2010 9:47 PM

    Flop4Strahan says:
    “The great thing about the NFL is nobody cares unless you win the ring
    Packers have 12
    Queens have 0″
    ___________________________________
    First things first, YOU didn’t win any of those, nor did your father or grandfather (since 9 were pre 1968) win any of those ‘rings’. Secondly, get your facts right… the Vikings are 0-4 in SUPER BOWLS – they have an NFL Championship from 1969, which coincidentally is the EXACT same thing as 9 of those Packer rings… it’s been nice destroying your argument, thanks for playing.

  85. RealityTrip says: Jul 10, 2010 9:49 PM

    Still a whole bunch of Packer fans who are still sore and miss their hero????
    Get over it already, it is getting to be obsessive.

  86. bluestree says: Jul 10, 2010 9:52 PM

    pervy harvin says:
    July 10, 2010 8:58 PM
    bluestree, do you know who the hell i am?
    ——————————
    Yeah I know who you are, now STFU and go make me grilled cheese sandwich.
    Then get your ass upstairs and start using that zit cream your mother bought for you.

  87. pervy harvin says: Jul 10, 2010 10:06 PM

    @ bluebush- LMAO even have to use my grilled cheese lines….loser! go put that fork in the toaster doucher as chicken would say…

  88. stove boogie says: Jul 10, 2010 10:32 PM

    “What different does that make?”
    Sadly, I could see cris carter saying that.

  89. bruce campbells chainsaw hand says: Jul 10, 2010 10:39 PM

    twizzlystick -
    You’re an idiot if you think you’re LeBron comparison holds water. Favre played longer and won a championship in Green Bay. LeBron got to the finals once in seven years. But I guess to any Viking fan just getting to any championship game is good enough, kinda like winning the division. It’s the small victories, right? Who needs Super Bowl wins when you can beat the Packers twice? Pathetic.

  90. PackFaninPackLand says: Jul 10, 2010 11:37 PM

    WOW, Florio FINALLY gets something right about Favre and tarining camp.
    Fact is, Favre could probably roll out of bed the morning of that Thursday night opener, and drive to Nawlins that afternoon and perform pretty darn well that night. Carter is right, Favre is one of (if not THEE) rarest of the rare in that sense.
    Let’s face it, all the same WR’s, RB’s, and TE’s in Queensville are the same. What does he need … reps to hand off twice a game to Gerhart ???
    It was the same thing in 2008 had he stayed with the Packers, the only new guy was Jordy Nelson – our #4 WR.

  91. twizzlystick says: Jul 10, 2010 11:38 PM

    bruce campbells chainsaw hand-
    What the hell is your point?? Do you even understand my point? Do you even know you’re alive? Or do you just wander around aimlessly? How much for your sister?

  92. jrmbadger says: Jul 10, 2010 11:38 PM

    “pervy harvin says:
    July 10, 2010 6:48 PM
    12 Championships …yep….too bad most were when football was a prehistoric joke…1929, 1930,1931, 1936, 1939, 1944, 1961, 1962, 1965, 1966, 1967 and 1996. One that counts by anyone with brains would say(1996)
    1929- The Great Crash on Wall Street!
    1930-The dedication of George Washington’s head is held at Mount Rushmore.
    1931-Thomas Edison submits his last patent application.
    1936-Nazi Germany reoccupies the Rhineland
    1939-Brett Favre is born
    1944-Anne Frank is sent to concentration camp
    1961-East Germany erects the Berlin Wall
    ….think you get it, all that shit is ancient and means jack…. you have one in the last 43 years.Congrats!!!!! ”
    typical Viking fan – putting down someone else to try and make themselves feel better about their abysmal post-season record.
    Your team has a habit of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, while ours is one of the best fanchises in the NFL

  93. bluestree says: Jul 10, 2010 11:38 PM

    stove boogie says:
    July 10, 2010 10:32 PM
    “What different does that make?”
    Sadly, I could see cris carter saying that
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    He did say that.

  94. kingart27 says: Jul 10, 2010 11:50 PM

    Sterling…well said my man. From one Vikings fan to one Packer fan…well said. See it can be done :P Now all you kids talking shit back and forth, grow up already.

  95. gurnblanston says: Jul 11, 2010 12:15 AM

    “OTAs and all that stuff, they’re overrated,” said the piece of crap, “I did all I had to do to win a championship.” The second sentence is an actual piece of crap quote from just after the Giants-Vikings championship game in which the piece of crap put up 3 receptions for 24 yards and no tds. No rings, no class. Piece of crap! Hail!

  96. TexasBubba says: Jul 11, 2010 12:27 AM

    Farve needs to know that “little Timmie” is God’s chosen one in the NFL and not him.

  97. 30PTBUCK says: Jul 11, 2010 1:35 AM

    Hell no Brett doesn’t need to be there.Why add all the extra practice time for the other players?
    Chilly Ok team Brett has graced us with his presence today. Line up for the 2 minute Heimlich drill. That’s right team I promise we do this drill every practice, his royal highness is here, will guarantee that Brett won’t choke……….AGAIN

  98. Johnnyb612 says: Jul 11, 2010 3:58 AM

    My god Pervy is a loser. He copies and pastes all his lame comments from prior stories. I’ll bet he has fantasies of captivating a roomfull of actual live people as he’s doing it ala Jim Carey in dumb and dumber. Don’t worry Pervy, just keep telling yourself your smart enough, your funny enough, and gosh darnit, people like you! Yeah, that makes about as much sense as the queens winning a title! What a loser!!!! And stay out of your moms nightstand you freak!!!!!!

  99. Contra says: Jul 11, 2010 4:14 AM

    bruce campbells chainsaw hand says:
    July 10, 2010 10:39 PM
    It’s the small victories, right? Who needs Super Bowl wins when you can beat the Packers twice? Pathetic.
    ——
    that’s right! The Packers ARE pathetic. Way to hit the nail on the head there rube!

  100. okemon says: Jul 11, 2010 4:27 AM

    i still find it difficult to understand haters and dumb comments….
    i think tommy had one of the dumbest.
    its almost boring to sift through this trash. i wish we could have a filter put in to filter out garbage and read only the intelligent posts, not haters who just want to spout off… or obviously idiotic statements from people who really don’t know what they are talking about.
    And for those of you that can’t get beyond the fact that favre is allowed to skip camp….. get over it. its not like your tiny screams are going to amount to anything. he did it last year and the vikes had a great season. obviously we wanted one more game but grow up…. we had a great season…. and if you toss in a loss as a choke… then look at the other playoff teams and the way they choked…. it’s always the same with the same old names making the same old comments…. do us all a favor and find a hobby.

  101. Steve W. says: Jul 11, 2010 5:55 AM

    “Do you think somebody is going to teach him something new at Mankato?”
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-=
    No, and he won’t be teaching anybody else anything. Does team matter? Or is it, “I’m apart from the rest of the team.” Well that was Favre in Green Bay.
    Reminds me of something Rey Malaleuga said on Hard Knocks about the guy who was “mentoring” him, Rashad Jeanty. It was hard for him because he was also taking Jeanty’s job.
    He said ” Someday, I’ll do it for somebody else.”
    _______________________________
    I really don’t have a horse in this race (as the saying goes), but I have to say that a lot of Packer fans sound like spurned lovers when it comes to Favre. They couldn’t talk him up enough when he was playing for them, but now that he’s playing for someone else not only is he a choke artist and everything else under the sun now, but apparently he’s always been that way. It’s funny how most of you weren’t saying that when he was wearing a Packers uniform. Carter’s right, Favre doesn’t need to be there to learn anything, and all him going through two a days will do is wear him out sooner. It’s not like Favre is brittle, but at that age why risk it if it’s not necessary?
    As for Favre teaching his receivers, talk to the receivers. Even before people were taking notice of them, they were going on and on about how much they learned from him. That’s especially true for Rice, Harvin, and Shiancoe…the receivers (and TE) who made the biggest splash for the Vikings. Let’s face it, before Favre went to the Vikings, the Vikings receiving corps wasn’t thought of very highly by the analysts. I can’t tell you how many comments I read and heard from Packers fans along the lines of “fine, play for the Vikings (substitute insult parody name here on many occasions), but who are you going to throw to?”. In fact, the way the Vikings receiving corps stepped things up last season reminds me quite a bit of the Packers receiving corps in 2007. So, it seems to me that both the Packers and Vikings receivers have learned quite a bit by working with Favre.

  102. FoF says: Jul 11, 2010 7:04 AM

    HC says:
    July 10, 2010 3:54 PM
    The question should not be whether or not Brett Favre needs training camp; it should be whether or not the rest of the team might benefit from his presence at training camp.
    It won’t benifit the rest of the team that their star QB is out by the 10th game because you wanted a 41 year old to participate in 3 moths of OTAs followed by gureling two-a-days, yes?

  103. FoF says: Jul 11, 2010 7:13 AM

    bluetree,
    quit acting like the jilted ex-lover all the time. You’re man crush Ted Thompson plotted to get Favre out of GB the second he was hired. It was painfully obvious to all Packer fans that TT had no interest in winning the big one in Favre’s final few seasons.
    After the 2007 season, which was a fluke when Favre propelled a much overrated Packer team to the NFCC game, TT knew there wasn’t going to be a repeat and did nothing during the offseason FA period. That FA class happened to the best and deepest of all time, with many teams dramatically improving themselves. Yet TT did nothing but sit on his fat @!# with one of the largest cap spaces in the league. That is what drove Favre into early retirement. His love for football overcame his disgust for TT and he turned down a $20 million bribe to stay retired to play football for the Packers again. It was your love interest, TT, which traded Favre away. A trade Favre found out only from watching sportscenter. TT didn’t have the guts to call Favre and tell him himself.

  104. MACK DADDY says: Jul 11, 2010 7:17 AM

    Who cares if he goes to camp? The real question is, how is that ba$tard grandson of his doing?

  105. TheDPR says: Jul 11, 2010 8:52 AM

    If he was any kind of a leader he’d have won a Super Bowl at some point this century. He isn’t. He hasn’t. He won’t.

  106. va4favre says: Jul 11, 2010 9:24 AM

    I agree with Steve W’s comment that the Pack fans sound like scorned lovers. I guess we will need to wait for the Brett Favre Story on TV before anyone does the true story of how Favre was treated by Thompson. FOF is right on target that TT treated Favre like dirt from the moment he became GM. I think he acted more like a woman scorned than a NFL GM getting rid of their franchise player after 16 years!

  107. rickvaldez says: Jul 11, 2010 9:26 AM

    bigrig says:
    July 10, 2010 7:02 PM
    If I’m a Viking O-lineman and I’ve been sweating my nads off for 5 or 6 weeks while Mr. Superstar was lounging at home with his family, I might be inclined to ole’ a block or 2 in the pre-season just so Brett can get game ready, if you get my drift.
    Especially after His Royal Highness threw that bonehead pick trying to make it all about him instead of getting 4 or 5 yards for a FG try.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Why do people keep saying it should be one set of rules and Oh its not fair…. Well here in the real world people get treated different.
    Bunch of jealous people so worried about Favre.

  108. pervy harvin says: Jul 11, 2010 10:22 AM

    @okemon – Let me tell you a lil secret fellow Viking fan. If every post was of alien intelligence as you wish this site would be belly up in a week.Do you even grasp the concept Florio has going here? takes all types…Why do Viking and Pack stories always hit high comments? By the posts of hated fans like Bob Nelson,JimmySmith,Contra,RC,me? etc…lighten up Snuffy…..

  109. twizzlystick says: Jul 11, 2010 11:14 AM

    #TheDPR says: July 11, 2010 8:52 AM
    If he was any kind of a leader he’d have won a Super Bowl at some point this century. He isn’t. He hasn’t. He won’t.
    *******************************
    Yeah it looks that way, he’s going into his 6th year and he hasn’t even won a PLAYOFF game let alone a SB. He’s just no Favre.

  110. pervy harvin says: Jul 11, 2010 11:35 AM

    twizzlystick- Keep piling on…soon they will all go away!

  111. TorVikeFan says: Jul 11, 2010 12:22 PM

    Hell hath no fury like a Packers fan scorned by Brett Favre. You guys need mass psychotherapy, ASAP.

  112. bluestree says: Jul 11, 2010 12:41 PM

    @FoF; sorry if I’ve been ignoring you, this is the weekend I do my quarterly Pervy Harvin beatdown. I’ll get back to your pathetic hero worship of the NFL’s all time interception leader next week.
    Now get back to work, Brett’s balls are dry, very dry.

  113. bunbun says: Jul 11, 2010 1:16 PM

    Cris carter is another lazy bag o puke. The W on BF jeans stands for WRONG. I wonder if wrangler appreciates frve slacking, so much for leadership and teamwork. What a bunch of sleazy , lazy garbage you nfl whackos turned out to be. next some METH head will say something stupid like farve might be a candidate for the Hall. Not that lazy turd smoking “I am the king and dont have to practice”burnt fRVE. no way. vIKES OWNER SHOULD SEND FARVE TO BIRMINGHAM TO DRIVE CABS.

  114. pervy harvin says: Jul 11, 2010 1:31 PM

    @ lilboyblew- Sista, I beat you like a bitch and you keep coming back….thanks for being my punching bag doucher…

  115. FoF says: Jul 11, 2010 3:14 PM

    bluestree says:
    July 11, 2010 12:41 PM
    I will take that response as an obvious sign of capitulation on your part. Good day to you.

  116. bluestree says: Jul 11, 2010 3:33 PM

    FoF says:
    July 11, 2010 3:14 PM
    Capitulation? That’s a lot of syllables for you! You must have a pocket dictionary stuffed in your autographed No.4 kneepads.

  117. alphamail says: Jul 11, 2010 3:52 PM

    “12 Championships …yep….too bad most were when football was a prehistoric joke…1929, 1930,1931, 1936, 1939, 1944, 1961, 1962, 1965, 1966, 1967 and 1996. One that counts by anyone with brains would say(1996)
    1929- The Great Crash on Wall Street!
    1930-The dedication of George Washington’s head is held at Mount Rushmore.
    1931-Thomas Edison submits his last patent application.
    1936-Nazi Germany reoccupies the Rhineland
    1939-Brett Favre is born
    1944-Anne Frank is sent to concentration camp
    1961-East Germany erects the Berlin Wall
    ….think you get it, all that shit is ancient and means jack…. you have one in the last 43 years.Congrats!!!!! ” – pervy harvin
    The NFL counts them even if you don’t. Also one championship in 43 years is still one more than Minnesota. Furthermore your list of historical events is a non sequitur (though kinda funny).
    I hope Favre comes back – would love to see him torture Vikes fans again.
    Packer fans are of course bothered by losing twice to Minnesota, but it’s not as bad as losing to Chicago, our true #1 rival (whom they swept).
    Favre is still a decent QB but the Packers made the correct decision and haven’t looked back.

  118. pervy harvin says: Jul 11, 2010 4:30 PM

    alphamail- “non sequitur” lol Awful big word for a WI guy isn’t it? Heres to Favre torturing you again this season!! Cheers

  119. twizzlystick says: Jul 11, 2010 7:38 PM

    Hey Packer fans can I ask you about something and you won’t take it the wrong way, because I swear this a sincere question and I am not trying to mess with you or be disrespectful.
    I think that Aaron Rodgers is seriously a pretty good QB and in some ways he’s better than his 17-15 record and I don’t think that it’s farfetched at all that he could win a playoff game someday, he’s still in is 6th year and he has real potential and god knows it’s been hard for him following a legend.
    Anyway I’ve noticed some comments on this board from Packer fans talking about being proud of Aaron Rodgers being the 1st openly gay QB in the league which I personally have no problem with, the interview he gave in The Sporting News talking about his gayness and his partner who is a trainer for the Packers was very brave and whatever gay things they do in their bedroom is totally their business and nobody should criticize him for his gayness.
    But I was just wondering if there has been any backlash against his gayness from people in Wisconsin or any of his teammates that aren’t gay like him or if there have been any locker room problems with his gayness?
    Do you think that it’s possible that the reason that Favre moved out of the main part of the locker room in Green Bay was that maybe Aaron was checking out his junk and stuff and it made Favre uncomfortable, or do you think it was a different reason that didn’t have to do with Aaron’s gayness?
    Also what do you think that Ted Thompson thinks about Aaron’s gayness? Do you think that they’re friends and hang out together? Do you think that Aaron’s gayness helps him as far as being a QB and calling plays under center? Do you think that he and Ted will recruit more gay players for the Packers? Do you think he would like to redecorate the Packers locker room and would Ted let him?
    I swear to god I am not trying to diss him, I’m only curious about how you Packer fans feel about having an openly gay QB.

  120. PurpleRaid12 says: Jul 11, 2010 8:01 PM

    “Favre is still a decent QB but the Packers made the correct decision and haven’t looked back.”
    ___________________________________
    I’ll agree with you the Packer organization may have not looked back… Unfortunately for your sake though, the Packer fan base has “looked back” (multiple times I might add) seeing as 90% of you cannot scroll past a Favre/Vikings article in order to comment on how “bad” he is.

  121. Steve W. says: Jul 12, 2010 3:35 AM

    Prepare yourselves for the new era of me-me-me sports stars, ala Favre and LeBron James.
    ____________________________
    That is just idiotic. I’m not even really an NBA fan, and I know LeBron was a free agent. How is it being me-me-me if a free agent signs with a team? Just because he was from Ohio doesn’t mean he has to play his entire career there. Some of you people are just a bunch of whiny little b!tches. You complain when a player cares more about getting paid (would have made a lot more signing with the Cavs) than winning championships, and then when a player gives up a whole lot of money to put himself in a situation that improves his odds of winning a championship he’s being selfish. Grow up, all of you. Oh, and as for Favre, if the team owner, the head coach, and all of his teammates don’t seem worried about whether or not he’ll be there for training camp, then why should any of us care? Some of you don’t seem to be able to do anything but whine. If you won a million dollars in the lottery, your first thought would probably be to complain about how much you’d lose in taxes…as if everything but the cost of the ticket wasn’t profit.

  122. Steve W. says: Jul 12, 2010 3:54 AM

    If I’m a Viking O-lineman and I’ve been sweating my nads off for 5 or 6 weeks while Mr. Superstar was lounging at home with his family, I might be inclined to ole’ a block or 2 in the pre-season just so Brett can get game ready, if you get my drift.
    Especially after His Royal Highness threw that bonehead pick trying to make it all about him instead of getting 4 or 5 yards for a FG try.
    ____________________________
    How was he supposed to get those 5 yards? If you hadn’t noticed, by that point he was pretty much playing without much of an ankle. Besides, that was simply the last mistake the Vikings made. If AP could have just held on to that hand off, then even if they don’t gain a single yard they still have a very doable field goal attempt, which means an extra 3 points and no overtime. There are a few other instances that I could also point out that were equally to blame for the loss. You can point out the picks in 2007 and last year until you’re blue in the face, but the fact remains that neither team would have even been in those games (let alone be competitive in them) without Favre. End of story, and the very reason that Chilly is fine with Favre not being there for the beginning of training camp. As for those linemen, I guarantee you they’d rather protect Favre than Jackson, regardless of when Favre shows up. Again, when even one player for the Vikings or one of the coaches starts complaining about Favre, then your argument will have some merit. Until then, it’s just a bunch of whining from a fan of a team that’s likely to lose to the Favre-led Vikings. Sorry if the truth hurts, but the same is true of my Eagles.

  123. Steve W. says: Jul 12, 2010 4:09 AM

    bunbun says: July 11, 2010 1:16 PM
    Cris carter is another lazy bag o puke. The W on BF jeans stands for WRONG. I wonder if wrangler appreciates frve slacking, so much for leadership and teamwork. What a bunch of sleazy , lazy garbage you nfl whackos turned out to be. next some METH head will say something stupid like farve might be a candidate for the Hall. Not that lazy turd smoking “I am the king and dont have to practice”burnt fRVE. no way. vIKES OWNER SHOULD SEND FARVE TO BIRMINGHAM TO DRIVE CABS
    _____________________________
    Now this is funny. Listen up tool, you don’t have to be a Brett Favre fan to know that he’s not simply a candidate, he’s a guaranteed first ballot Hall of Famer. If this post weren’t so dumb that it’s funny, it would be a complete waste of space.

  124. Ambrose says: Jul 12, 2010 9:16 AM

    twizzlystick says:
    July 11, 2010 7:38 PM
    I’m only curious about how you Packer fans feel about having an openly gay QB?
    ——————————————-
    Your contention sounds sincere. And your certainty tells us that you have personal and firsthand knowledge of homosexuality in the NFL. But I think it is wishful thinking on your part to be hopeful that you might be able to hook-up with Aaron Rodgers. He hasn’t come out. But I think it is very brave that you did. This is the wrong site for the things that are important to you, but it was still brave.

  125. Ambrose says: Jul 12, 2010 9:19 AM

    Steve W. says:
    July 12, 2010 3:35 AM
    Prepare yourselves for the new era of me-me-me sports stars, ala Favre and LeBron James.
    ____________________ ________
    That is just idiotic. I’m not even really an NBA fan, and I know LeBron was a free agent. How is it being me-me-me if a free agent signs with a team?
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    Try to stay with me here. I could care less that LeBron moved on. He has every right to do so and owes Cleveland nothing. It was the self-serving prime-time manner in which he did it, ala Favre.

  126. bluestree says: Jul 12, 2010 9:38 AM

    Steve W. says:
    July 12, 2010 3:54 AM
    Again, when even one player for the Vikings or one of the coaches starts complaining about Favre, then your argument will have some merit.
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    Valid point. That will happen as soon as you lose a couple of games in Sept.
    Then the floodgates will open. It’ll get ugly.

  127. PurpleRaid12 says: Jul 12, 2010 11:00 AM

    Ambrose says: “It was the self-serving prime-time manner in which he did it, ala Favre. ”
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    Try to stay with me here… but I’m positive Brett Favre has never had a TV show called “The Decision” on ESPN to announce his future plans… In fact, the media comes to him. Favre doesn’t hang around news stations and say “Hey! I have a few words about my indecision…” The media always initiates and suspects on what he will or won’t do… Favre just waits until after camp to announce it. Hardly LeBron James-esque.

  128. Ambrose says: Jul 12, 2010 11:11 AM

    PurpleRaid12 says:
    July 12, 2010 11:00 AM
    Hardly LeBron James-esque.
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    I don’t recall Reggie White going on Greta Von Sustern, or Joe Buck Live, or Larry King, or Jay Leno to talk about coming back to the Carolina Panthers after he retired.
    Favre is a self-centered self-promoting douche, and (my point was) the likes of more like him (LeBron) are not far behind.

  129. PurpleRaid12 says: Jul 12, 2010 11:53 AM

    He didn’t ask to be there Ambrose, LeBron asked to have a show so he could announce his plans. Reggie White is one of the greatest football players of all time, but you don’t know whether or not he was asked to come onto those shows, perhaps he had a fear of TV interviews (doubtful) so he declined, point is Favre was asked to be on those shows and every show you listed (other than the Greta Von Sustern interview) he has never talked about his plans, they may poke fun at his indecision (Jay Leno) by saying: “So what about next season?” because they know he won’t answer it… He isn’t being “self-promoting” if THEY ask him to come onto the show, in fact, it’s the exact opposite, he’s promoting THEIR show because fans will want to watch him (like I’m sure you did for many years)

  130. Supersuckers says: Jul 12, 2010 12:18 PM

    Steve W. says:
    July 12, 2010 3:54 AM
    Again, when even one player for the Vikings or one of the coaches starts complaining about Favre, then your argument will have some merit.
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    It will happen eventually. Especially if the offense doesn’t click early. Favre may not need camp but what about his offensive teammates? They have been and will be training for the 2010 schedule with some one else at QB. And whoever that is does not throw a football like Favre does. It will hurt them. There is no way around that. Especially early.

  131. PurpleRaid12 says: Jul 12, 2010 12:22 PM

    The fact of the matter is this, The Vikings are perfectly fine waiting for Favre, for multiple reasons (reasons most Packer fans reject to see because they don’t know football). First off, Tarvaris Jackson has shown he can start in the NFL and play at a decent level (by no means am I saying he’s elite or that he can take us to the Super Bowl…. yet) but he’s a capable starter should Favre not return, and even if the Vikings drafted any of the available QBs from the 2010 draft, none were going to unseat a 5-year veteran in the Vikings system (TJack) this year. Clausen hasn’t unseated Moore yet and McCoy is sitting the *entire* 2010 season with the Browns. So what should the Vikings have done differently? You could make the argument that they should have gone for McNabb, but that’s contradicting your argument against Favre because, McNabb is 33 (not to mention injury-prone) and has NEVER won “anything” himself (then again you wouldn’t be Packer fans if you weren’t being contradicting). So the Vikings are waiting for Favre to return for the 2010 season. And hopefully Joe Webb or Tarvaris Jackson learn enough under him to start the 2011 season and keep the Vikings in contention for the future.

  132. twizzlystick says: Jul 12, 2010 1:14 PM

    Favre is doing exactly what he did last year and last year worked out pretty well, the Vikes were the 2nd highest scoring team in the NFL. Why would he do anything different this year?
    The only people upset about Favre not going to OTA’s again are Packer fans who still feel like he ripped their hearts out.

  133. twizzlystick says: Jul 12, 2010 1:17 PM

    Plus I don’t think it’s a coincidence that McNabb said he wanted to go to the Vikes then when he got traded to the Skins he never signed an extension with them like everyone expected him to. He’ll be a free agent after this season and I bet he and Chili already have an understanding that he’ll sign with the Vikes.

  134. bluestree says: Jul 12, 2010 1:18 PM

    PurpleRaid12 says:
    July 12, 2010 12:22 PM
    The fact of the matter is this, The Vikings are perfectly fine waiting for Favre, for multiple reasons (reasons most Packer fans reject to see because they don’t know football).
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    I don’t think you can claim knowledge of football on this one. No one has done what Favre is doing, other than an injured player skipping camp, and even then, most of them would still be at camp rehabbing.
    Maybe this is one of those “do not do this the way Brett Favre does” things, or maybe it’s the wave of the future. If Brett plays well again this year, maybe nobody over 30 shows up for camp next year.

  135. PurpleRaid12 says: Jul 12, 2010 2:30 PM

    “No one has done what Favre is doing”
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    You’re exactly right, no one else is skipping training camp, but how many other teams have a starting QB who has played in the league for 20 years? What will he learn if he goes? Don’t say “chemistry”, he’s developed that. Don’t say “the system”, he’s played his entire career in that system, don’t say “his teammates are not happy”, they’ve all said they don’t care when he shows up (as long as he does.) He’s rehabbing in Mississippi and he’s staying in game shape by throwing with receivers… how is that being self-centered? He’s a 41 year old grandfather, whose team doesn’t mind waiting on him. There aren’t any other NFL QB’s (or players for that matter) that have played as well as he has for 19 seasons, he’s gone to TC probably 15 seasons in a row. He doesn’t have to go… which is what Chris Carter (future HOFer) and the entire Vikings Organization think. Why does it bother you, I thought you were content with Rodgers?

  136. thirdandgoal says: Jul 12, 2010 2:51 PM

    what a difference a year makes, when CC was ripping BF for not showing up. Chris, you do know people have memories, right?

  137. va4favre says: Jul 12, 2010 5:33 PM

    Are there two sets of fans that dislike each other as much as the Pack-Vikings? I would guess not since adding Favre to the equation has made it even more bitter. I enjoy PFT, but first they say that Favre is going to fill in for LeBron at ESPN, and then they drop nothing but Favre updates. Please note that Favre has said nothing to the press and is not responsible for this coverage.

  138. bluestree says: Jul 12, 2010 6:22 PM

    @PurpleRaid12; I really can’t argue with you too much. Most if not all of what you said is true. You’ve even understated a few things.
    There just aren’t that many 20 year guys in the NFL anymore. But don’t misunderstand me, I’m not bothered that Favre isn’t going to camp. I’m glad, cuz I think it’s a mistake.
    After all those years and games I agree he doesn’t need it. And with the arms you’ll have in camp, his receivers will be ok.
    But look at last year. Pull up those highlights and tell me he was in football shape in Sept. He played his way into shape, and he’ll do that this year too. But he’ll have to do it against the Saints, Dolphins and Jets. And everybody is gunning for him.
    I’m glad Favre isn’t coming to camp.
    .

  139. twizzlystick says: Jul 12, 2010 7:45 PM

    bluestree, I’m glad he’s not coming to camp too but because I honestly think he knows his body and he doesn’t need the wear and tear and his way is the best way for him and for the team. Last year worked just fine. I don’t know 1 single Viking fan that wishes he’d come to camp.
    You’re right that it might take him a few games to get his legs again but I just think you worry too much. It’s gonna work out fine again just like last year. Also I can tell by reading between the lines that you secretly still like Favre. You don’t have to admit it here in front of the other Packer fans. But god bless you.

  140. PurpleRaid12 says: Jul 12, 2010 8:09 PM

    Im glad we agree on a few things here Blues. But let’s face it, Favre isn’t an idiot, and he knows the Vikings schedule. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that he’s most likely going to get his body into game shape in time for the START of the season.

  141. pervy harvin says: Jul 12, 2010 10:00 PM

    I(sob) was….just wundrn’…(sob)if i could get some love guys….I’m tired(sob)of being the bad guy…

  142. bluestree says: Jul 13, 2010 9:33 AM

    @PR12; It’ll get settled between the white lines.
    @twistydick; Keep whistling in the dark, you’ll be lucky to make it to October 2 and 2.
    Now STFU and go tell your little brother Pervy to make my grilled cheese sandwich. And make sure he washes his grubby little mitts, always playin’ with himself. Oh yeah, god bless you, too, douchebreath.

  143. twizzlystick says: Jul 13, 2010 10:52 AM

    bluebush, I don’t hear your mom complaining about my dick being twisty. Well, her mouth’s full right now but even when it wasn’t.

  144. footballrulz says: Jul 13, 2010 11:09 AM

    Pervy–
    I think you’re being stalked buddy. I told you not to encourage Contra/twistydick.

  145. footballrulz says: Jul 13, 2010 12:02 PM

    Contra–Quit trying to be Pervy. You’ll never get there.

  146. twizzlystick says: Jul 13, 2010 12:05 PM

    footballrulz, for some reason they censored my comment about your mom. All I can tell you is it involved her dentures.

  147. footballrulz says: Jul 13, 2010 12:23 PM

    Contra–Do you not get tired of being looked upon as a fool? Pay attention.

  148. pervy harvin says: Jul 13, 2010 1:43 PM

    …Thank God i have found religion…peace be with you…..

  149. footballrulz says: Jul 13, 2010 2:40 PM

    Pervy, u r a trip

  150. footballrulz says: Jul 13, 2010 4:11 PM

    Why did you guys take down Pervy’s post about the 80′s & acid? Sometimes this site is just unreal……

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