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Report: Contract confrontation coming for Peterson, Vikings

Vikings running back Adrian Peterson missed a mandatory minicamp this offseason but later insisted that any problem he had with the team was “over with.”

But a new report suggests that the big problems between Peterson and the Vikings are just about to start. Michael Lombardi of NFL.com reports that Peterson will be the next NFL player to complain about his contract.

We noted last month that the Vikings can expect problems with Peterson. In three NFL seasons, Peterson has averaged nearly 1,500 rushing yards and more than 13 touchdowns a season. Players who produce at that level just aren’t content to play out their rookie contracts and wait to become free agents.

So it’s no surprise that Peterson isn’t satisfied with his contract. And it shouldn’t be a surprise if he soon takes his dissatisfaction public.

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  1. Heinekenfun says: Jul 12, 2010 11:40 AM

    No kidding.., this guy should be paid like the second best RB in the league. Anything else is an outrage!

  2. GBfanForever says: Jul 12, 2010 11:42 AM

    ruh roh

  3. Hap says: Jul 12, 2010 11:43 AM

    He shoulda done that BEFORE last season’s “problem’s” started.

  4. PittsburghSteelerz says: Jul 12, 2010 11:44 AM

    Perfect time to ask for an extension… the year after your stats fell off a cliff. Couldn’t even run with Favre keeping the defense honest. Trade him while you can?
    Where’s 3G today… Maybe he can report Jake Long was JUST drafted #1 overall?

  5. jknock625 says: Jul 12, 2010 11:45 AM

    Yeah, nearly $7 million a year is peanuts. If I were him I’d protest by fumbling more. Wait, that’s not possible.

  6. farn0050 says: Jul 12, 2010 11:45 AM

    The vikings should pay him but there should be a clause in there voiding bonuses/incentives if he continues to fumble.

  7. Mean Leroy Brown says: Jul 12, 2010 11:46 AM

    Hold on to the ball… then start griping….

  8. Tom Selleck says: Jul 12, 2010 11:46 AM

    It’s one thing for a late 1st round pick like Chris Johnson to be unhappy, but Peterson was a top 10 pick. He’s already made over $8 million and is due $6 million for 2010. He’s been pretty well taken care of.

  9. Contra says: Jul 12, 2010 11:48 AM

    So this article is basically about an assumption? Nothing has actually happened so do us all a favor…report something once it happens instead of posting something just to garner clicks.

  10. halestorm74 says: Jul 12, 2010 11:49 AM

    Damn it! This sucks. Just pay the man and lets play football.

  11. Duck Fallas says: Jul 12, 2010 11:51 AM

    Are you guys retarded? There are 30 other teams in the league that would gladly have this man on their roster. Of course his production declined when Favre arrived. He didn’t have to singlehandedly carry the offense on his shoulders.

  12. bayou says: Jul 12, 2010 11:51 AM

    When A.P. wants and extension he wil, Drop it like it’s hot, drop it like it’s hot.

  13. govikings27 says: Jul 12, 2010 11:52 AM

    Dumb ass steelerz fan says
    “Perfect time to ask for an extension… the year after your stats fell off a cliff”
    Stats falling off a cliff are better than any steller RB…. The man had 1700+ total yards and almost 20 TDs…so basically… STFU
    Pay the Man

  14. wope says: Jul 12, 2010 11:53 AM

    How many fumbles has this guy had? Should subtract 100 yards from his stats for each one. This guy is a fool if he thinks he is good when he literally costs his team games by fumbling.

  15. Ilovefoolsball says: Jul 12, 2010 11:53 AM

    Can they put a clause in the contract that he doesn’t get a bonus if he fumbles away another conference game. We don’t want to have another game where the other team doesn’t deserve to win and the vikings fan whine all year long about how they played a better game than the opposing team yet they can’t hold on to the ball.
    Ditto for Harvin and Favre, oh wait, Lord Favre can do whatever he wants to the Viking team and they’ll like it.

  16. TylerDurden says: Jul 12, 2010 11:53 AM

    Just keep stirring that pot, fellas….

  17. TheRedBengal says: Jul 12, 2010 11:56 AM

    Uh, yea, he needs to play out his rookie contract, which he’s been absurdly well compensated from. 5 years, 40 mil, with 17 mil to sign his damn name.

  18. salmen76 says: Jul 12, 2010 11:57 AM

    Cry baby vikings……if they ain’t whining about losing it all to the Saints then they have to whine about something….thats what cry babies do……Peterson fumbled the football in the NFC title game like 67 times….ha ha….i laughed cuz i’m a Saints fan……ha ha….ain’t life great,,,,well, if you’re a Saints fan anyway…..ha ha….

  19. smashmouth football says: Jul 12, 2010 11:58 AM

    I really think there’s a basic problem with the contracts for running backs. They just don’t have the average shelf life of practically any other position. If a RB plays like Peterson but waits until he’s a free agent, the odds are he’ll be washed up, and so will never get paid when it’s time to re-up. It would be nice if the collective bargaining negotiations could take this reality into account and permit a different mechanism that rewarded RB’s who outperformed their rookie deals (and clawed back from RB’s who were busts — ahem, Reggie Bush). But I’d put the odds on that happening at about a trillion to one.

  20. Ninerdoodle says: Jul 12, 2010 12:00 PM

    Could Patrick Willis’ new contract have anything to do with this? If so then bravo 49ers.

  21. BDiddy says: Jul 12, 2010 12:00 PM

    “PittsburghSteelerz says:
    July 12, 2010 11:44 AM
    Perfect time to ask for an extension… the year after your stats fell off a cliff…”
    Adrian Peterson 2008: 1,885 yards from scrimmage, 4.8 ypc, 10 TD’s
    Adrian Peterson 2009: 1,819 yards from scrimmage, 4.4 ypc, 18 TD’s
    Is it too much to ask for people to at least have a clue what they’re talking about before broadcasting their ill-informed opinions over the Internet?

  22. numberfour says: Jul 12, 2010 12:05 PM

    he’ll just drop an extension offer too.
    pants on the ground!

  23. Ambrose says: Jul 12, 2010 12:07 PM

    This is how cohesive teams usually start to unravel. When they are in the “we..are..fa-mi-ly” frame-of-mind (like last year,) everybody loves everybody and have big smiles on their faces and can’t feel anything bad about anybody or anything…because they think they are going to win the big one. Then they don’t, and everybody starts to scramble to “get mine now” when the realization of (maybe) never getting there again hits them. Peterson was willing to eat Favre’s crap sandwiches last year, expecting a big payoff in the form of a SB trophy…but not this year.
    BTW…it is always hard for a professional veteran to keep coming back year after year after year…all while performing at a level that is competitive with persons fifteen years younger, only to have fate, age, logic, and the law-of-averages finally all catch up, because we all know it can’t last forever. It can catch up when you least expect it. I am talking of course of Lance Armstrong. Does anyone else come to mind?

  24. samim says: Jul 12, 2010 12:08 PM

    You got to be kidding. This guy has made around $24M his first 3 years. He will make another $17M in the next two providing he meets his performance bonuses. His total contract was around $42M for 5 years. Maybe he ought to worry about not fumbling?

  25. Boudin says: Jul 12, 2010 12:08 PM

    So this article is basically about an assumption? Nothing has actually happened so do us all a favor…report something once it happens instead of posting something just to garner clicks.
    —————————-
    one of the reasons why this is called the Rumor Mill is because while they do report SOME facts, most of this stuff is rumor and opinion.

  26. MN Boise Fan says: Jul 12, 2010 12:12 PM

    You do not give a RB a 2nd contract. It is dang near physically impossible for them to make it a worthwhile investment. You draft one, ride them for 4-5 years, and then draft another one.

  27. robert ethen says: Jul 12, 2010 12:13 PM

    Peterson is an idiot, and I say that as a Viking fan. They should lose this guy.

  28. sergep says: Jul 12, 2010 12:14 PM

    maybe if he stopped fumbling so much they would pay him.

  29. mattgso says: Jul 12, 2010 12:19 PM

    oh oh viking fans… team chemistry taking another hit.
    Peterson is about to take a lot more hits too now that Chester aylor has left town. Gerhart is a good battering ram, but no bounce-out ability.

  30. PittsburghSteelerz says: Jul 12, 2010 12:21 PM

    @BDiddy/@govikings27
    “Is it too much to ask for people to at least have a clue what they’re talking about before broadcasting their ill-informed opinions over the Internet?”
    ————————-
    [1] He averaged almost 25 yrd/game less last year than ’08 (86.8 per game)
    [2] Only 3 100 yrd/games
    [3] He still can’t hold on to the damn ball… nearly .4 fumbles per game.
    All pedestrian stats.
    Meanwhile, CJ averaged 125.4 yrd/game (Vs 86), 12 100 yrd/games (Vs 3) & averaged 1.2 yrds/carry higher
    Dumbass Viking/All-day homers. He’s washed up.

  31. robert ethen says: Jul 12, 2010 12:26 PM

    Adrian Pedestrian.

  32. swede700 says: Jul 12, 2010 12:29 PM

    If he does begin to complain publicly, I will lose respect for him. As with the other players that have complained this offseason, I can’t respect them for not understanding the fundamental issue…there is no CBA agreement beyond this year. Without an agreement, there is no reason why the owners should tie themselves into deals that might hamstring them if the rules change. Be patient, and you will be rewarded. Be impatient, and you lose in the court of public opinion.

  33. Adam-Chris Schefterson says: Jul 12, 2010 12:30 PM

    Contra says:
    July 12, 2010 11:48 AM
    So this article is basically about an assumption? Nothing has actually happened so do us all a favor…report something once it happens instead of posting something just to garner clicks.
    ————————-
    Welcome to PFT. That’s how things are here. Enjoy your stay.

  34. knightsroundtable says: Jul 12, 2010 12:30 PM

    I think the press is making it bigger than it is! I’m sure AP and the Vikings will work it out.

  35. BenRapistberger says: Jul 12, 2010 12:31 PM

    When you keep dropping money, $7 million a year doesn’t go very far.

  36. JimmySmith says: Jul 12, 2010 12:35 PM

    He is one of the top 5 RB’s but his habit of fumbling cannot be ignored not only because of the number of times, but the timing of the fumbles.
    The Vikings were on the verge of home field advantage for the entire playoffs and Butterfingers coughs up on OT fumble to greatly contribute to their loss to the Bears.
    Flash forward to playing the NFC championship game in New Orleans (as opposed to the giant inflatable toilet bowl the Vikings call home where their regular season record was 8-0) Fumblefingers not only fumbles multiple times but fumbles inside the 5 yard line on a play that surely was the biggest gaffe of the game. (competing against BrINT throwing his INT and Childress’s lack of rationale thinking in putting 12 men in the huddle) Fumblefingers has developed a Viking habit of choking at the worst possible moment. You know, like the FG kicker in ‘98 or the 2003 team that started 6-0 only to lose to the Cardinals on the last play of the last game and miss the playoffs, a feat never achieved before in NFL history.
    Don’t you love talking about Viking futility? They have such a rich history that I could go on and on but why rub it in when it’s only July and the Viking fans are in the middle of their annual Superbowl pronouncements.
    So pay the man, he is a perfect Viking in my book.

  37. Chicksdigmylongballs says: Jul 12, 2010 12:39 PM

    He’d prolly drop the pen to sign the extension if they gave him one but seriously he signed the contract nobody to blame but himself and why would the Vikings give him an extension when nobody is even sure if there gonna play football next year? That goes for u too cj2k there is no reason a team should give one of the best backs in the league more money when they’re under contract for so cheap it’s a bargain so shut up and play out the contract that YOU signed

  38. Ufanforreal says: Jul 12, 2010 12:42 PM

    # Contra says: July 12, 2010 11:48 AM
    So this article is basically about an assumption? Nothing has actually happened so do us all a favor…report something once it happens instead of posting something just to garner clicks.
    ——————————————————
    Here ,let me help you and others with the same complaint as your, look at the top of this site, not that far up, down a little more, there you go, you see where it says Home what does it say next, that’s right Latest News & Rumors there hope that helps you out.

  39. new prague says: Jul 12, 2010 12:45 PM

    2009 Stats
    A Peterson
    1383 yards rushing
    4.4 yards/carry
    6 fumbles lost
    R Grant
    1253 yards rushing
    4.4 yards/carry
    1 fumble lost
    Grant had the better year.

  40. mbbrazi says: Jul 12, 2010 12:50 PM

    It’s interesting to note that a player takes care of the football as that is “EVERYBODY’S” money (income). So if Adrian Peterson gives a fumble discount perhaps it should be one million per fumble. Fact of the matter is any other coach would have benched Peterson’s ass a long time ago. Peterson is very lucky to have not been benched, when he proves he can hang onto the ball-then start talking raise. P.S. Adrain Peterson already cost the Vikings a Super Bowl cause they sure would’ve pounded the Colts ass!

  41. irishgary says: Jul 12, 2010 12:50 PM

    @Contra
    Who turns your computer on for you? They get the click you are complaining about Moron.

  42. BoltsFan says: Jul 12, 2010 12:52 PM

    Can’t blame the guy for wanting a new contract. I am always amused, however, when these first round picks act like they are being ripped off by the compensation they signed on for when they entered the league. It’s amazing how they suddenly develop selective amnesia regarding the tens of millions of dollars they were paid as a signing bonus. The team EXPECTS superlative performance for that kind of money…and I certainly hope the team demands a team-friendly extension if they decide to give him any more money.

  43. FlikeMorio says: Jul 12, 2010 12:53 PM

    As a die hard Vikes fan, until he learns how to hold on to the damn ball, he can complain all he wants about his contract.

  44. MrHumble says: Jul 12, 2010 12:57 PM

    PittsburghSteelerz says:
    July 12, 2010 11:44 AM
    Perfect time to ask for an extension… the year after your stats fell off a cliff. Couldn’t even run with Favre keeping the defense honest. Trade him while you can?
    ———————————————–
    What rock did this dude just crawl out from under, LMAO. He either didn’t watch last year or he can’t even read the stats, to state that Peterson’s “stats fell of a cliff”…….he was second only to CJ who had a once in a career year. Peterson had 1400 yds rushing, 450 receiving and 18 freaking td’s. …..and he “fell off a cliff”…..this dude may call himself PittsburghSteelerz but he doesn’t know chit about football.

  45. twizzlystick says: Jul 12, 2010 12:58 PM

    Except AD was usually facing 8 in the box and Grant was usually facing a nickel package.

  46. Bob Nelson says: Jul 12, 2010 1:02 PM

    Peterson is on the downhill side of his career.
    23.8 percent of his carries last season resulted in lost yardage or no gain.
    The vikings were 24th in yardage/carry.
    Peterson led the league in RB fumbles.
    The vikings are planning to get rid of the fumbler.
    A) RB careers are short and they are rarely effective 5 years or more.
    B) Not only have his fumbles cost the vikings games, he has never been able to play on passing downs. He can’t pick up a blitz, run routes, or catch the ball well. His rookie excuse is gone.
    C) The vikings spent 2 of their first 3 draft picks on Peterson’s replacement, Toby Gerhart in this year’s draft.
    The smart move would be to trade him while they could still get something for a declining and soon to be washed up RB.

  47. MrHumble says: Jul 12, 2010 1:03 PM

    new prague says:
    July 12, 2010 12:45 PM
    2009 Stats
    A Peterson
    1383 yards rushing
    4.4 yards/carry
    6 fumbles lost
    R Grant
    1253 yards rushing
    4.4 yards/carry
    1 fumble lost
    Grant had the better year
    ———————————————–
    Another dumbass who doesn’t know football and likes to “pick n’ choose” the stats he uses to bolster his asinine arguement. why not list the receiving yds, Peterson 450yds and Grant 197yds, OR Touchdowns, Peterson 18 and Grant 11. I’m not even a Vikings fan but ya gotta respond to stupid ass comments right!! “Grant had a better year” LMFAO

  48. Ilovefoolsball says: Jul 12, 2010 1:13 PM

    19. smashmouth football says:
    (and clawed back from RB’s who were busts — ahem, Reggie Bush)
    ______________________________________
    oh yeah Reggie is such a tremendous bust. So much of a bust that the Saints won 4 postseason games and a superbowl with him.
    BTW how many post season victories does AP have? oh yeah: ONE, and that was over the overhyped cowboys.

  49. Love_Boat_Scandal says: Jul 12, 2010 1:17 PM

    SCHISM!!!!

  50. Adam-Chris Schefterson says: Jul 12, 2010 1:38 PM

    MrHumble says:
    July 12, 2010 12:57 PM
    What rock did this dude just crawl out from under, LMAO. He either didn’t watch last year or he can’t even read the stats, to state that Peterson’s “stats fell of a cliff”…….he was second only to CJ who had a once in a career year. Peterson had 1400 yds rushing, 450 receiving and 18 freaking td’s. …..and he “fell off a cliff”…..this dude may call himself PittsburghSteelerz but he doesn’t know chit about football.
    ————————-
    The guy’s right. Compared to his prior two years, his stats DID fall off a cliff. He gained 40 more yards than his rookie season and it took 76 more carries to do it.
    2007 – 238 carries, 1341 yards, 5.6 ypc, 12 TDs, 4 fumbles
    2008 – 363 carries, 1760 yards, 4.8 ypc, 10 TDs, 9 fumbles
    2009 – 314 carries, 1383 yards, 4.4 ypc, 18 TDs, 7 fumbles
    And Peterson was second only to CJ? By my count (rushing yards) he was 5th behind CJ, Steven Jackson, Thomas Jones and MJD.

  51. longestlegs says: Jul 12, 2010 1:48 PM

    His stats certainly fell off the page. Only 18 rushing TDs?! That’s an outrage!

  52. bruce campbells chainsaw hand says: Jul 12, 2010 1:49 PM

    MrHumble -
    Grant isn’t more talented, but he’s definitely more efficient.
    Grant lost 1 fumble. Peterson lost 6. Sometimes the negative stats outweigh the positive ones, especially when they lose you games. Did you happen to catch the Vikes OT loss to the Bears last December?

  53. aligreene says: Jul 12, 2010 1:52 PM

    he has 3 good years left he better cash in before he done ,his running style has a shelf life about years then he will be pretty much done……..

  54. bluestree says: Jul 12, 2010 1:54 PM

    Peterson is a flash in the pan. He’s running over people like he’s Earl Campbell, only he doesn’t have Campbell’s lower body strength so he relies on his helmet. A head or neck injury is going to happen sooner or later. The Vikings should tell him STFU or ride the pine, your call.
    Where did he get his nickname, anyway.
    All Day*
    *except 3rd down

  55. Bob Nelson is a Whiney Titty Baby says: Jul 12, 2010 1:55 PM

    MrHumble’s comments also apply to Bob Nelson. Picking and choosing, as usual, and numbering his points as if that makes them credible.
    As for AD, he has never complained publicly about anything. That is not his style. What is interesting about the mandatory camp is that AD was there for the first part–the classroom work. He missed the onfield portion only, which partially coincided with Adrian Peterson Day. If he was sending a message, it wasn’t very clear and he said later that he and the Vikings were fine. Perhaps that is his way of sending a message, unlike other players who give press conferences or Tweet about their unhappiness. If there is a contract issue, I would bet Bob’s McDonalds paycheck that it will be handled quietly on both sides.

  56. Old_Style says: Jul 12, 2010 2:14 PM

    Peterson and Grant have similar numbers, but Grant doesn’t seem to have the ability/burst to bust a big run like AP can. The Packers improved O-Line will help. Who knows, maybe Starks will develop for the Packers.

  57. MrHumble says: Jul 12, 2010 2:19 PM

    And Peterson was second only to CJ? By my count (rushing yards) he was 5th behind CJ, Steven Jackson, Thomas Jones and MJD.m-Chris Schefter says “—————-
    another dumbass who likes to “pick n ‘ choose” his stats. Combined yardage is what counts. And for all those who think Peterson ‘s stats have “fallen off a cliff”…….I’m sure none of you will be picking him for your fantasy football teams, lol …here’s another stat for the “Grant is better than Peterson” idiots, in the last 3 years, Peterson 40td’s and Grant 23 but of course you don’t like looking at ALL the stats, only those that you think will bolster your asinine opinions, too bad the majority of fans are smarter than you.

  58. Vikadontis Rex says: Jul 12, 2010 2:36 PM

    Hey BobNelson, saw you made it onto the letters to the editors in the latest Sports Illustrated magazine. Glad to see ProFootballTalk.com isnt the only place you frequent way too excessively…

  59. buhbay1c says: Jul 12, 2010 2:52 PM

    Holy crap! I actually agree with Bob Nelson. I need to go get a drink.

  60. moody6549 says: Jul 12, 2010 2:56 PM

    I normally just read this website and I registered just because I couldn’t take you morons knock Peterson this much. Take a look at this:
    http://www.profootballfocus.com/articles.php?tab=articles&arc=&id=169
    Yea, his YPC went down, he fumbles some but if anyone of you actually watched football/Vikings, you would see he has NO room to run.

  61. MrHumble says: Jul 12, 2010 3:11 PM

    Walter Payton actually avg. a higher number of fumbles per season than Peterson………damn da’ bears were stupid not to get rid of him….LMAO

  62. Joe Boy says: Jul 12, 2010 3:25 PM

    Dump da bum! Even at 64 years old, I’d fumble less.

  63. MACK DADDY says: Jul 12, 2010 3:29 PM

    Grant>Peterson

  64. J-oh says: Jul 12, 2010 3:33 PM

    If he drops money like he drops the ball, no wonder he wants a new deal. He’s littered the streets of minneapolis with cash!

  65. new prague says: Jul 12, 2010 3:35 PM

    Hey Mr. Humble–
    How about the comparison between Peterson and Grant the last 8 games of 2009.
    Peterson–129 carries, 549 yards, 4.3 y/c, 9 TDs, 4 lost fumbles.
    Grant–133 carries, 632 yards, 4.8 y/c, 8 TDs, 0 lost fumbles.
    And—The Packers went 7-1, while the Queens went 5-3.
    Grant not only had the better year, he got better as the year went on, while AP struggled.

  66. Bious says: Jul 12, 2010 3:37 PM

    After his last playoff game that saw him fumble the ball everytime he touched it, I would think he would worry first about his carrying technique then his next contract

  67. cusoman says: Jul 12, 2010 3:46 PM

    Vikes fans really need to back down on this one, AP has no leg to stand on for this type of behavior.
    Cheezers also need to back down on this, AP is a great player who just needs to wrap up some incredibly visible flaws. So sick of the tit for tat that goes on on this site.

  68. seals says: Jul 12, 2010 3:51 PM

    just think of the cash he could go after if everyone didn’t load up their underwear every time he touched it. I believe he is a great RB but man when you are scared to see him touch it that has to knock the paycheck down a little. Hold onto the ball this year and then sign a monster deal. Drop the ball all year and get paid accordingly.

  69. TedTheSledge says: Jul 12, 2010 3:51 PM

    Peterson looks to be a little smarter than TJack at least. Adrian seems to know the difference between a teammate under contract who is allowed to skip work and a free agent who has not signed yet.

  70. Ruvell100 says: Jul 12, 2010 4:13 PM

    I’m baffled by the Peterson hate from Vikings fans. “Baby Jesus” ring a bell? This guy could do no wrong, then he runs for 150 yards, 3 TDs and loses 2 fumbles in the NFC Championship and he’s garbage? What about Favre’s 2 game crushing picks?
    Worst bandwagon, fair-weather fans on the planet. So short sighted it doesn’t even seem possible. In fairness, I wouldn’t have any loyalty to anything if I were from Minnesota either, and I definitely wouldn’t look back (failures) or forward (Los Angeles). Everything you have ever done has failed, so a healthy distrust is a necessary survival mechanism.

  71. packrulzm says: Jul 12, 2010 4:25 PM

    salmen76.
    Really man? Really? I’m a Packers fan and find fans like you idiotic. Your team won last year. Good for them! Now, lets see if their for real this year. Didn’t your team used to be called “The Aints”? I seem to recall seeing paper bags on peoples heads at Saints games not so long ago. Your cockiness is laughable. How many playoffs game did you win beofre last year? AP is a great RB. Period. He’ll fix his fumbling problems and get his contract (That he deserves). Your team will fade into obscurity where they belong. Who dat! Who cares………………

  72. tdub12 says: Jul 12, 2010 4:33 PM

    they should instate a cap on how much a single player can make. its ludicrous that this players want so much damn money every year when they arent guaranteed to not blow out their knee on the 1st play. rediculous.

  73. cusoman says: Jul 12, 2010 4:44 PM

    @Ruvell
    I’m baffled by the Peterson hate from Vikings fans. “Baby Jesus” ring a bell? This guy could do no wrong, then he runs for 150 yards, 3 TDs and loses 2 fumbles in the NFC Championship and he’s garbage? What about Favre’s 2 game crushing picks?
    Worst bandwagon, fair-weather fans on the planet. So short sighted it doesn’t even seem possible. In fairness, I wouldn’t have any loyalty to anything if I were from Minnesota either, and I definitely wouldn’t look back (failures) or forward (Los Angeles). Everything you have ever done has failed, so a healthy distrust is a necessary survival mechanism.
    ————-
    I call BS man. If Rodgers threw 25+ INTs during a season on the way to an under .500 season for the Packers, your vaunted high football IQ community would throw him under the bus in a heartbeat. The hypocritical attitude of the regulars on this site makes me absolutely sick.

  74. imissmydeadspin says: Jul 12, 2010 4:58 PM

    Vikings fan here:
    This pisses me off. don’t fumble the ball every single game. with all the fumbles, he isn’t even a top 15 running back. fumbles offset yards and TD’s. He is the reason the vikings didn’t score 3 more times in the NFC championship game. he may have ‘recovered’ the fumble but it killed the drive momentum. fans will boo his ass this year if he starts complaining publicly. that’s a fact.
    I guess the Vikings drafted Gerhart to replace Peterson.

  75. Ruvell100 says: Jul 12, 2010 5:07 PM

    “I call BS man. If Rodgers threw 25+ INTs during a season on the way to an under .500 season for the Packers, your vaunted high football IQ community would throw him under the bus in a heartbeat. The hypocritical attitude of the regulars on this site makes me absolutely sick”
    ——————–
    Favre threw 29 picks in 05 and we begged him to come back. Took almost no blame in the Packer community either. Lesson learned.
    1800 yards and 18 TD’s with 7 fumbles is no off-year. Not great, but it’s not 29 picks and a 4-12 record.

  76. Notoroius B.U.G. says: Jul 12, 2010 5:16 PM

    @BobNelson – nice copy and paste job…you already posted that drivel on another AD post not that long ago…loser.

  77. cusoman says: Jul 12, 2010 5:20 PM

    Favre threw 29 picks in 05 and we begged him to come back. Took almost no blame in the Packer community either. Lesson learned.
    1800 yards and 18 TD’s with 7 fumbles is no off-year. Not great, but it’s not 29 picks and a 4-12 record.
    ——————-
    He had already well established himself as a Packer legend by then, so I think that response needs to be measured against what he already did for the team. Rodgers hasn’t been nearly as successful yet, so the response is bound to be different.

  78. funi says: Jul 12, 2010 5:39 PM

    Petersen will sign with the Packers!

  79. Shackman v2.0 says: Jul 12, 2010 5:47 PM

    #
    # cusoman says: July 12, 2010 3:46 PM
    Vikes fans really need to back down on this one, AP has no leg to stand on for this type of behavior.
    Cheezers also need to back down on this, AP is a great player who just needs to wrap up some incredibly visible flaws. So sick of the tit for tat that goes on on this site.
    As a Packer fan I believe that this is the best post on the whole thread. Everyone needs to take a step back and take a deep breath and relax.

  80. footballrulz says: Jul 12, 2010 6:09 PM

    cusoman
    “The hypocritical attitude of the regulars on this site makes me absolutely sick”
    I agree there are some real homers on here but I think after going from 13-3 with Favre to 6-10 in Rodgers’ first year most Pack fans stood by Rodgers rather than bailing out on him. I will guarantee you though, that if Grant comes in and developes “fumbleitis” there will be calls for his head.
    Maybe it’s the position. Or maybe most Pack fans realize that going from one franchise QB to another is something to be thankful for. Hopefully, some of the holes from last year have been filled in. We’ll find out in a couple months.

  81. sharkattack says: Jul 12, 2010 7:05 PM

    I don’t necessarily hate the Vikings or their fans, Just the excuse making idiots on this site.
    That being said, anyone who thinks Grant is better than AP is a complete idiot. I know that they both play in the same division, and the Pack fans have to support their dude and all, but that doesn’t mean you get an excuse to be an idiot.
    Talk about cherry-picking stats; how about Packers fans only listing stats from this year (which AP was still better.) Take a look at the last 2 years and the margin of talent between these two becomes even greater. I still say AP is the best all-around back in the league. Grant would be lucky to get my vote at the top ten.
    Everyone who says AP has a short shelf life, washed-up, trade him, etc. should look no further than the greatest running back of all time: Jim Brown. Browns style was 100 times as barbaric as Peterson, and JB put together 9 great seasons. So you can fully expect 6 more years of greatness from AP. That’s not even looking at the fact that Jim Brown retired very early (29 I think,) to pursue an acting career.
    If CJ repeats, or even comes close to matching his numbers from last year, I would move him above AP; but as it stands AP has three great years to CJ’s 1. Grant is not even in this conversation.

  82. bluestree says: Jul 12, 2010 7:12 PM

    Actually, Peterson’s yards per carry will probably go up this year. Now that there’s a years worth of film on Brett and the Vikes, teams will stop loading up on the run, and just try to keep AP from killing them. Remember, this is Favre, he’s gonna thow a couple to the wrong guys, and if you’re not bringing up a safety to play the run, you’ve got a better chance to pick a few.

  83. Emoney says: Jul 12, 2010 7:21 PM

    Attention Viking fans!
    That is pro football TALK. Its a forum of rumors and gossip. Don’t get your panties in a bind. You should be thankful they even care to write a story about your pathetic team.

  84. pervy harvin says: Jul 12, 2010 8:01 PM

    Emoney says: That is pro football TALK. Its a forum of rumors and gossip. Don’t get your panties in a bind. You should be thankful they even care to write a story about your pathetic team
    —————————————————You
    dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted clapper-clawed flirt-gill. May your
    spouse be blessed with many bastards.

  85. twizzlystick says: Jul 12, 2010 8:03 PM

    The Vikings are practically the only team PFT does write about but aside from that.

  86. Ruvell100 says: Jul 12, 2010 8:34 PM

    “He had already well established himself as a Packer legend by then, so I think that response needs to be measured against what he already did for the team. Rodgers hasn’t been nearly as successful yet, so the response is bound to be different.”
    ——————–
    If Rodgers wins one playoff game next year, it will be the same amount that Favre had won in the previous 8 prior to 05 (which would be the 06 playoff year). I hear your point, but it just doesn’t hold much water.

  87. employer says: Jul 12, 2010 10:42 PM

    @ sharkattack
    Finally!…I dug through 80 plus posts to get to someone that knows some football.
    Well said

  88. twizzlystick says: Jul 12, 2010 10:58 PM

    If Rodgers wins one playoff game next year it will be his first. In that unlikely event he MIGHT be allowed to look at Favre’s Super Bowl ring.

  89. Annuvin says: Jul 13, 2010 12:21 AM

    Even when considering that Harvin fumbled the ball on the critical play that gave the Saints the final lead, Childo being unable to count to 11 and BrINT ending the season the way he knows best, it is without a doubt that Peterson was the main reason the Queens threw away the NFC Championship game.
    Based on that and that alone, he’s lucky he still has a job.

  90. Ruvell100 says: Jul 13, 2010 1:01 AM

    Twizzlerdick, don’t ever re-post or respond to anything I say ever again.

  91. Emoney says: Jul 13, 2010 8:34 AM

    Aww Percy,
    Did I upset you? I’m sorry buddy. Just remember, your mom is right upstairs if you need to cry in her arms. Just wait until I’m done with her and then she’s all yours.

  92. sand0 says: Jul 13, 2010 8:35 AM

    I’m a Vikes fan and own an AP jersey. The guy is one of the best out there.
    But it is really hard with running back contracts. There are plenty of serviceable backs out there that you could win a championship with and only a few that truly bring something special to the table.
    But for those few, the window of opportunity is short and there can be a lot of injuries at any time.
    Pay a runningback uber money and 90% of the time it will hurt your team in the long run. That is just the painful truth of the position. He was worth a helluva lot more than he was paid in the past but probably not as much as he’s asking for in the future.

  93. Adam-Chris Schefterson says: Jul 13, 2010 9:44 AM

    MrHumble says:
    July 12, 2010 2:19 PM
    another dumbass who likes to “pick n ‘ choose” his stats. Combined yardage is what counts. And for all those who think Peterson ‘s stats have “fallen off a cliff”…….I’m sure none of you will be picking him for your fantasy football teams, lol …here’s another stat for the “Grant is better than Peterson” idiots, in the last 3 years, Peterson 40td’s and Grant 23 but of course you don’t like looking at ALL the stats, only those that you think will bolster your asinine opinions, too bad the majority of fans are smarter than you.
    ————————
    Peterson’s receiving stats went up with Favre. Wow. Really? That’s the first time that’s ever happened. So combined yards are what really matter, huh? Is that why Shaun Alexander was pissed off in 2004 after losing the rushing title to Curtis Martin by one yard? Is the position called running back or combined back? Who holds the record for most rushing yards in NFL history? Emmitt Smith. Who holds the record for most combined yards in NFL history? (crickets)
    Don’t put words in my mouth, idiot. I never made the case that Grant’s better than Peterson. Anyone who says that is drunk or stupid.

  94. Adam-Chris Schefterson says: Jul 13, 2010 9:47 AM

    Oh, and one more thing, Humble… If you look at combined yards, Peterson still wasn’t #2 to Chris Johnson. He was #4 behind Chris Johnson, Ray Rice and Steven Jackson.
    Humble indeed.

  95. twizzlystick says: Jul 13, 2010 10:04 AM

    Ruvell100 says: July 13, 2010 1:01 AM
    Twizzlerdick, don’t ever re-post or respond to anything I say ever again.
    *******************************
    Ruvell100, what do you mean?? All I did was when you posted
    “If Rodgers wins one playoff game next year, it will be the same amount that Favre had won in the previous 8 prior to 05 (which would be the 06 playoff year)”
    which nobody even understands what that’s supposed to mean or what your point is, I merely responded
    “If Rodgers wins one playoff game next year it will be his first. In that unlikely event he MIGHT be allowed to look at Favre’s Super Bowl ring.”
    which to me seems alot more logical. Then you had to go and add
    “don’t ever re-post or respond to anything I say ever again”
    which I’m not clear about what you’re trying to say. You’re sending mixed messages Ruvell.

  96. Ruvell100 says: Jul 13, 2010 10:51 AM

    Go back and re-read the discussion between Cusoman and I.
    “If Rodgers wins one playoff game next year, it will be the same amount that Favre had won in the previous 8 prior to 05 (which would be the 06 playoff year)”
    ———————-
    That means in 05, Brett Favre threw 29 picks, the Packers went 4-12, and no one jumped off the Favrewagon, even though he’d only won one playoff game in 8 years.

  97. twizzlystick says: Jul 13, 2010 10:58 AM

    ’05 was the only losing season he’s ever had in 19 years right? That guy is really really good.

  98. footballrulz says: Jul 13, 2010 11:24 AM

    Ruvell
    You’re going to confuse twistydick with all those facts

  99. Ruvell100 says: Jul 13, 2010 12:30 PM

    Rulz, an Aaron Rodgers is gay quote is coming within the hour.
    “’05 was the only losing season he’s ever had in 19 years right? That guy is really really good.
    —————–
    When you put it that way, it’s even more amazing that this guy could only muster up 4 playoff wins since you were 7 years old. Do his teams let him down or something…or does he just throw a ton of picks when it really counts? I can remember…refresh my memory.

  100. Emoney says: Jul 13, 2010 12:56 PM

    Toss 6 picks against the Rams.
    Throw one up to Brian Dawkins with no packer in site.
    Throw 4 picks against Atlanta.
    Throw one up to Corey Webster. Who the hell was Corey Webster before that play?
    Throw one to the dolphins with a playoff spot on the line.
    Throw one directly to the Saints with the game neatly won.
    Yeah I can see why this guy is so much better than everyone else. He definitely had his moments that you’ll never forget, but he’s had more bad memories than good, hence his ONE championship. Will never be the greatest of all time. Regular season, yes. Numbers don’t lie. Playoffs and championships, no. Most over rated hall of famer in the playoffs.

  101. scra22 says: Jul 13, 2010 2:09 PM

    @packrulzm
    “I seem to recall seeing paper bags on peoples heads at Saints games not so long ago.”
    Ummm, if 30 years to you is “not so long ago,” then yeah. Otherwise, the last and only time people wore bags regularly was the 1980 season when the Saints went 1-15, and that’s a pretty long time ago. But all you haters can keep throwing that out there, just continue to prove you don’t know what you’re talking about.

  102. scra22 says: Jul 13, 2010 2:12 PM

    @packrulzm
    “Now, lets see if their for real this year.”
    13-3
    #1 offense three out of the last four years
    Highest-scoring team in the league
    QB had the best passer rating and set the accuracy record, threw for the most touchdowns
    One of the highest turnover-causing defenses in the league
    The Saints were for real bud.

  103. Adam-Chris Schefterson says: Jul 13, 2010 3:11 PM

    scra22 says:
    July 13, 2010 2:12 PM
    One of the highest turnover-causing defenses in the league
    ———————–
    Last season, yes. They were ranked #3 for turnover margin last season. But the prior three seasons they were ranked 22nd in the NFL and they were 31st in 2005. Turnover margin is not something you can necessarily rely on year to year. Which is why a lot of people are skeptical of the Saints’ chances of repeating.
    Their defense derived a lot of success from turning the ball over. They weren’t very good at stopping offenses. They were ranked 20th by points allowed and 25th by yards allowed. Their success came from taking the ball away and by outscoring the other team. They shown they can be a prolific scoring team year to year. They have not shown they can stop offenses without turnovers or consistently force turnovers season to season. That’s an obstacle.

  104. twizzlystick says: Jul 13, 2010 5:40 PM

    Ruvell100 says: July 13, 2010 12:30 PM
    “’05 was the only losing season he’s ever had in 19 years right? That guy is really really good.
    —————–
    When you put it that way, it’s even more amazing that this guy could only muster up 4 playoff wins since you were 7 years old. Do his teams let him down or something…or does he just throw a ton of picks when it really counts? I can remember…refresh my memory.
    *************************
    Do you honestly like life better now with Aaron Rodgers playoff game ending turnovers?

  105. Emoney says: Jul 14, 2010 9:18 AM

    Twizzlystick,
    It was rodgers first playoff game you moron! Did everyone jump off the bridge EVERY year that favre couldn’t beat the cowboys? That guy sucked in those games. Give rodgers a chance. Remember, there was a time when favre sucked and everyone wanted him benched. Threw pick after pick. But you’re probably too young to remember that.

  106. Emoney says: Jul 14, 2010 11:16 AM

    Ryan grant sucks. Anyone who thinks he’s as good as Peterson is delusional. Example, the game against the bears. First play of the game. He somehow found a hole and ran for an 80 yard touchdown. After that play, he averaged about 1.9 yards/carry. Sucks. Or when the packers were up big against teams they’re blowing out. They run the ball to kill the clock. Those are what we call paper stats. AP may fumble a lot, but I’ll take him anyday over Ryan “i run right into the back of my lineman” grant.

  107. RC IV says: Jul 14, 2010 11:36 AM

    Emoney says:
    July 13, 2010 12:56 PM
    Toss 6 picks against the Rams.
    Throw one up to Brian Dawkins with no packer in site.
    Throw 4 picks against Atlanta.
    Throw one up to Corey Webster. Who the hell was Corey Webster before that play?
    Throw one to the dolphins with a playoff spot on the line.
    Throw one directly to the Saints with the game neatly won.
    ==============================
    Check out the defensive stats for all those games.
    I did and posted them 3 times yesterday, but was censored from posting it for some reason….
    Defense in the games gave up an average of 350 yards and of those, 145 average rushing yards.
    Yet its all on Favre, right? You guys get pissed when we pin it on GayRod, yet here you are bashing Favre….Hypocritical much?
    By the way, the Rams game was all Favres fault.

  108. Emoney says: Jul 14, 2010 1:31 PM

    RC IV,
    In case you didn’t know, defenses do give up yards. It’s inevitable. Throwing six picks or four picks or throwing a crushing interception in the most crucial part of FOUR games is his fault. As bad as a defense may have played, the ball was always in his hands to lead the team down the field for the win. You can’t put those stupid picks on the defense. He choked. Great quarterback do not choke that much in the playoffs.

  109. RC IV says: Jul 14, 2010 2:54 PM

    Against SF. Defense gives up winning TD with 3 seconds left.
    Against Philly. Defense gives up a 4th and 26 yard pass play!!
    Againsst the Vikes defense gives up 4 TDS to Duante Culpepper!?
    My point is Good teams do not give up nearly 150 yds rushing per game.
    NONE of that stuff was on Favre.
    Also against the Giants, they let them go up and down the field not once but twice to have a shot at a GW FG.
    Maybe, just maybe, he had to throw the ball up for Grabs and take chances to keep the Packers in the game….
    Don’t answer the hypocritical question though….
    Why is it with GayRod, it’s a team game, but with Favre it’s all on him?
    Hypocrite.

  110. Emoney says: Jul 14, 2010 6:34 PM

    Even after 4th and 26, who had the ball to win the game? Certainly not barnett and the defense. You fail to open your eyes to that fact. Great quarterbacks make plays. Chokers throw balls up for grabs.
    It wasn’t the defenses fault that he gave four picks to the vikings. Sure, they played bad. But great quarterbacks who some consider the greatest of all time don’t turn it over that much.
    Against the giants, eli freakin manning looked like hall of famer, not lord favre. He was able to make plays in the cold. Favre couldn’t.
    Now to answer your question that you so foolishly think I’m avoiding. The difference between the two is that favre has about thirty games of playoff experience and twenty years on rodgers. Yes rodgers made a lot of mistakes in that game. It was his first playoff game. if he continues to do that throughout his career, then I will say the same thing about him.
    But let me ask you this, if that were favre instead of rodgers down 30-10 in the second quarter, what would he have done? statistically and historically speaking, he wouldn’t have brought them back in it to tie the game. He would have gone back to his throwing the ball up for grabs. We probably would have lost that game 70-16.
    If you idiot Viking fans gave rodgers a chance, you’ll see in a few years whether he’s the real deal or jot. but instead, your inner fear tells you the truth about his future so you attempt to bash his one mistake. besides favre, you have never had a quarterback as good as rodgers. you know your future isn’t bright as soon as lord favre retires for good.

  111. scra22 says: Jul 14, 2010 6:36 PM

    @Adam-Chris Schefterson says:
    Last season, yes. They were ranked #3 for turnover margin last season. But the prior three seasons they were ranked 22nd in the NFL and they were 31st in 2005.
    —-
    The prior three seasons are irrelevant because what we had last season that we didn’t have those 3 seasons is a defensive coordinator named Gregg Williams, who changed the defense’s focus to turnovers. That’s why they improved so dramatically in 2009 in turnovers. We also have a much improved secondary over what we had those prior three years and this coming year we upgraded on defensive end. The future of the defense IMO is bright.

  112. Adam-Chris Schefterson says: Jul 14, 2010 7:13 PM

    RC IV says:
    July 14, 2010 11:36 AM
    Defense in the games gave up an average of 350 yards and of those, 145 average rushing yards.
    Yet its all on Favre, right? You guys get pissed when we pin it on GayRod, yet here you are bashing Favre….Hypocritica l much?
    ————————
    The average offensive gain for all teams last season was 335 yards a game. Average rushing game for all teams was 117. However, what do you do when you’re ahead? Run the ball. So I’d argue your stats above are statistically irrelevant.
    Favre is to blame for HIS STATS in those games. And those stats are poor. You can’t pin the loss on him because, as you correctly point out, teams lose games, not QBs.

  113. Adam-Chris Schefterson says: Jul 14, 2010 7:23 PM

    scra22 says:
    July 14, 2010 6:36 PM
    The prior three seasons are irrelevant because what we had last season that we didn’t have those 3 seasons is a defensive coordinator named Gregg Williams, who changed the defense’s focus to turnovers. That’s why they improved so dramatically in 2009 in turnovers. We also have a much improved secondary over what we had those prior three years and this coming year we upgraded on defensive end. The future of the defense IMO is bright.
    ————————
    My point was that turnover margin ebbs and flows. If you think Williams consistently gets better turnover margins from his teams, consider the facts.
    Williams’ recent defenses:
    2008 – Jaguars – 25th best turnover margin in the league. In 2009 (after he left) they improved to 13th in the league. In 2007 (before he arrived) they were 6th in the league.
    2004 – 2007 – Redskins – yearly turnover margin went from 20th (2004), to 14th, to 23rd, to 21st (2007). Not great. Before he arrived (2003) they were ranked 10th. After he left (2008) they were 17th.
    There’s simply no reason to think Williams’ defense will continue to put up high turnover margins year after year. Go ahead and think their future is bright. But they’d better figure out how to stop offenses without turning them over. You can’t count on doing that year after year.

  114. PackersPackFudge 8==D says: Jul 14, 2010 10:12 PM

    Did I really read emoney say that the Vikings have never had as good as a quarterback as Rodgers??? Woah!! This guy has been playing for two seasons and suddenly he’s better than Fran Tarkenton, Warren Moon, Randall Cunningham, Rich Gannon, Archie Manning, Jeff George, Dante Cullpepper, and Jim McMahon!! Wow you guys are really drinking the Rodgers kool-aid over there in god’s country aren’t chya?!

  115. RC IV says: Jul 15, 2010 8:57 AM

    Adam- Chris, I can see your point to a degree.
    It’s just dome of those playoff games they were giving up 163, 184 yards. They aren’t going to win most games doing that, no one is.
    ===========================
    Emoney: I’m done with you. You cast off that 4th and 26 so casually, like it’s a regualer occuerence.
    Had they stopped that play, they don’t put Favre in the position to have to make plays, same with the Giants game. You said so yourself ,Eli looked like a hall of famer, guess the defense had a hand there.
    You’ll never bash Rodgers unless he leaves your team. Like you do to Favre.
    If you had Favre still, hed be the best.
    As Far as if Favre played in that game. it’s pure conjecture as to wat would have happened, so it has no bearing.
    As to Rodgers being better than any other Vikings QB in history….well, you obviously are 12, retarded or have lost your damn mind.

  116. Adam-Chris Schefterson says: Jul 16, 2010 10:53 AM

    RC IV says:
    July 15, 2010 8:57 AM
    Adam- Chris, I can see your point to a degree.
    It’s just dome of those playoff games they were giving up 163, 184 yards. They aren’t going to win most games doing that, no one is.
    ————————
    Sure, you generally won’t win giving up 150+ on the ground. But that doesn’t absolve the QB for the mistakes he’s made.
    Case in point: the Packers gave up 156 rushing yards to the Cards in the wildcard game last season. They lost. However, Rodgers scored 5 TDs to go with 2 turnovers.
    You come off as a hypocrite when you point to the rushing defense in explaining away Favre’s playoff foibles and then turn around and say Rodgers punted away the Cards game.
    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Teams win and lose games. Players are accountable for their own performances. Rodgers is accountable for the INT and the fumble. And missing Jennings for the game-winning TD. He’s not responsible for giving up 51 points. Likewise, Favre’s not responsible for giving up 150+ rushing yards in some ancient playoff games. But he is accountable for his terrible numbers in those games.

  117. Adam-Chris Schefterson says: Jul 16, 2010 10:57 AM

    RC IV says:
    July 15, 2010 8:57 AM
    As to Rodgers being better than any other Vikings QB in history….well, you obviously are 12, retarded or have lost your damn mind.
    ———————–
    I’d hope he meant that in the proper context… That Rodgers’ individual performance so far has been better than any prior Vikings QB (with the exception of Favre, as he noted). I think that’s a case you could make successfully. What’s it mean? Nothing. Far too early to rate Rodgers against 50 years of QBs for one team. So far he’s been very good, though.

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