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More conflicting reports come out of Philly

On two recent occasions, media outlets have clashed regarding the question of whether the Eagles are — or aren’t — considering the possibility of parting ways with backup quarterback Mike Vick.

Round one featured the AP, which reported that the Eagles are “strongly considering” cutting Vick, against ESPN, which reported that they aren’t.  In round two, Charles Robinson of Yahoo! Sports reported that the termination option remains on the table.  The Philadelphia Inquirer reported that it isn’t.

Now, two Philly outlets have squared off regarding the team’s interest in Ravens backup quarterback Troy Smith.  Howard Esking of WIP radio, who works the sideline for the team’s radio broadcasts, reported last week that the Eagles were looking into the possibility.  This week, Jeff McLane of the Philadelphia Inquirer reports that, per a team source, the Eagles aren’t interested.

Though we remain reluctant to accept at face value anything coming from any NFL team when matters of strategy are involved (especially when the team flat-out lied earlier this year about the status of former starting quarterback Donovan McNabb), a league source has pointed out the possibility that the ultimate explanation could be bad reporting.  Though we don’t know whether that’s the case, in fairness to the Eagles we should at least mention the possibility, however large or small it may be, that the AP and Robinson and Eskin were all wrong.

Given the historical behavior of NFL teams generally and the Eagles specifically, we continue to believe that the team hopes to keep under wraps its intentions regarding Vick until a final decision is made.  Nothing is gained from acknowledging that Vick may be cut by saying that he could be before a final determination is made.

In the end, the Eagles’ plans could be irrelevant.  If Vick’s probation is revoked or his reinstatement to the NFL is rescinded, he may not be available even if the Eagles still want him.

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55 Responses to “More conflicting reports come out of Philly”
  1. AllThat says: Jul 13, 2010 3:22 PM

    Go directly to Jail Mr. Vick.

  2. TryTheVeal says: Jul 13, 2010 3:27 PM

    Eskin doesn’t work the sidelines for eagles radio reports…….He stands there like a jackass in a fur coat waiting to lick Andy Reid’s balls…..

  3. realitypolice says: Jul 13, 2010 3:29 PM

    Whatever the conclusion of this particular chapter of the Vick saga is, the Eagles would be wise to keep a list of potential replacements updated.
    The Eagles are learning the hard lesson many have learned before them: Trusting Mike Vick is a fool’s game.

  4. Philly Cheese says: Jul 13, 2010 3:33 PM

    Another recap to confirm a previously confusing string of speculative articles featuring the opinions of those having no knowledge of the situation.

  5. Patsfan1776 says: Jul 13, 2010 3:33 PM

    Since he is not allowed to travel out of Pennsylvania, he can only play home games and a game against Pittsburgh if one is on the schedule. How can they trade him? He isn’t allowed out of the state!

  6. ZombieRevolution says: Jul 13, 2010 3:35 PM

    “This week, Jeff McLane of the Philadelphia Inquirer reports that, per a team source, the Eagles aren’t interested.”
    What do we learn- not all sources are correct. A lesson PFT would be wise to remember.

  7. BigMikeSkinsFan says: Jul 13, 2010 3:36 PM

    Though we remain reluctant to accept at face value anything coming from any NFL team when matters of strategy are involved
    “a league source says”
    you were probably foaming at the mouth when this “report” came out. You always jump at any and every rumor and try to make a story out of it.

  8. tom coughlin's coat holder says: Jul 13, 2010 3:36 PM

    @try the veal….i’m sure you meant that in a good way.

  9. JunkYardDogg1156 says: Jul 13, 2010 3:37 PM

    Or they could be hoping the league makes the decision for them & lets them off the hook, the league or the legal system bailing them out.

  10. bigrig says: Jul 13, 2010 3:37 PM

    All we really know for sure at this point is that the Eagles won’t win the SB this year.
    Just like last year. And the year before that and the year………

  11. Cleg says: Jul 13, 2010 3:38 PM

    This could not happen to a better franchise. The Gold Standard of the NFL. The Eagles are so much better than the rest of the league. They are so smart, make the best personnel decisions, have helped reform Michael Vick. They are such a wonderfuld franchise with dedicated and supporting fans who file by the trophey case at the Linc to gaze upon all the Lombardi…oh wait, that’s right, sadly, the trophy case is empty. But, they are still the best and smartest franchise in all of sports.

  12. Aluminum Falcon says: Jul 13, 2010 3:41 PM

    Having licked said balls for 8 years, I can tell you firsthand that it is much more difficult than it looks.

  13. Snuff Smith says: Jul 13, 2010 3:42 PM

    Though we don’t know whether that’s the case, in fairness to the Eagles we should at least mention the possibility, however large or small it may be, that the AP and Robinson and Eskin were all wrong.
    Kind of like PFT.com.

  14. cbrianwatkins says: Jul 13, 2010 3:42 PM

    time wasted reading this post – 2 mins
    time wasted typing this post – 30 seconds
    unreal

  15. cmich06 says: Jul 13, 2010 3:42 PM

    Why would the Eagles want a Smurf to back up Kolb? The Ravens didn’t even have any confidence in him so they went out and signed Bulger

  16. dldavidlong says: Jul 13, 2010 3:44 PM

    i stand by my comment i made in the first article on the shooting at vicks party. bottom line is vick will be the back up qb this season unless he is traded. the investigation is over the story is over.

  17. mustbechris says: Jul 13, 2010 3:45 PM

    did i learn anything i didn’t already know from this article? no, because this is recycled news.
    can’t wait to see the next recycled mike vick article tonight. i REALLY can’t wait for the upcoming brett favre barrage.

  18. barracuda says: Jul 13, 2010 3:46 PM

    Is a backup QBs job ever really that secure? It’s hard to believe the eagles aren’t at least considering cutting him.

  19. lajimmy says: Jul 13, 2010 3:50 PM

    What we see happening here is the result of numerous media outlets trying to one up each other on what so far has been a non story. Florio’s site relys on rumors and innuendo, but it gets stupid when there are conflicting reports on both sides everyday. How about shutting the F*ck up and letting things play out?

  20. KingOkra says: Jul 13, 2010 3:50 PM

    Gotta love those keystone state qb’s! Killer rapists for everyone!

  21. OLDCRACKER says: Jul 13, 2010 3:52 PM

    Why don’t they just trade QB’s with Pittsburgh?

  22. omegalh says: Jul 13, 2010 3:52 PM

    I can’t wait for Vick’s “The Decision – UFL” show to air.

  23. wetdentist says: Jul 13, 2010 3:53 PM

    if there’s one thing i’ve learned about my Eagles, is that they LIE all the time; worse than politicians, they are

  24. Cmoney20 says: Jul 13, 2010 3:54 PM

    If you have ever listened to Eskin for more than 2 minutes on any topic and havent killed yourself, I just dont understand how you did it. The guy just blatantly makes up stuff. He really thinks Andy Ried and Joe Banner are his “friends” He really believes that, im not kidding.

  25. StupidRednecks says: Jul 13, 2010 3:55 PM

    2 Weeks later and…………….
    – Vick is still free
    – Vick is still on Eagles roster
    – No call from Commissioner’s office
    Damn I know that must hurt you Florio & the dog pound ha :)

  26. Chapnasty2 says: Jul 13, 2010 3:56 PM

    Maybe they want Smith because they realize what all of us already realized, Vick sucks as a QB.

  27. habibfromnewdehli says: Jul 13, 2010 4:00 PM

    The Ravens won’t trade Troy Smith anyway. They know he’s their best option if anything happens to Flacco.
    They only signed Bulger because they know that Smith is not staying after this season. He’s going to leave to go try and find a team he has the chance to start on.
    That’s it. It had nothing to do with Bulgers “amazing talent.” Stephen Jackson was behind the same offensive line that Bulger was behind… and he still managed to play decently.

  28. Shofner85 says: Jul 13, 2010 4:01 PM

    Here’s why Vick’s chances don’t look too good:
    1. Roger Goodell and Jeff Lurie want an excuse to suspend/cut Vick, given their “zero tolerance” statements when he was reinstated/signed. They are both waiting for the ongoing investigation to unearth something to give them better “cover” to do so.
    2. Forget Vick’s bad judgement before the event, conduct during the event, and actions leading up to the shooting. It is his actions beginning the next day that will likely be his undoing (it’s always the “cover up” and not the initial infraction). If he is found to have been lying to the police, NFL or Eagles, or to be part of the “wall of silence” (obstruction of justice) as to who did the shooting, I have to believe he will be suspended/cut, and no other team will take another chance on him. The police say they know who the shooter was. You just know Vick and his posse also know (and it might even be one of them). So if Vick even says “I don’t know”, I doubt the NFL or the Eagles will believe him.
    3. From Goodell’s perspective, he just cares about the league’s image. Vick presented an opportunity for the NFL to “rehab” a bad character, but it blew up in his face. Having Vick still run with a crowd that thinks that “getting capped” is the proper response to “cake in the face”, and then adhering to a “code of silence” in dealing with the police, by itself is just not the image the NFL can afford to be associated with.
    Unfortunately, there are still too many NFL-ers that think that now they have the $$ to really live the “gangsta lifestyle”, and bring along all the G’s that they grew up with. Sadly, Vick has probably squandered not only his second (last ?) chance, but that of others to follow, who now won’t be given one. Very sad.

  29. cbrianwatkins says: Jul 13, 2010 4:09 PM

    Patsfan1776 says:
    July 13, 2010 3:33 PM
    Since he is not allowed to travel out of Pennsylvania, he can only play home games and a game against Pittsburgh if one is on the schedule. How can they trade him? He isn’t allowed out of the state!
    ————————————————–
    dood, how old are you? 12?
    his P.O. did this because its the off season, and he has too much time on his hands to get into trouble
    once the season starts and he’s “locked down” by his team (whether the Eagles or someone else) he’ll be allowed to leave the state for work
    this is typically how it works

  30. Rick says: Jul 13, 2010 4:10 PM

    From an article earlier this year at NFL.com
    PHILADELPHIA — No. 5 will return to Philadelphia for a 12th season.
    Eagles coach Andy Reid said Donovan McNabb will be the team’s quarterback next season.
    Michael Vick’s status remains questionable, however.
    Reid sought to squelch speculation about McNabb’s future with one year left on his contract.
    “That’s my call,” Reid said Monday when asked who will make the decision to bring McNabb back. “I think he’s a great player. His work over the last 11 years has proven that. I truly believe it’s a team sport; it’s not one guy.”

  31. Heywood Jablowme says: Jul 13, 2010 4:11 PM

    AllThat says:
    July 13, 2010 3:22 PM
    Go directly to Jail Mr. Vick.
    ————————————————–
    Do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
    @ bigrig and cleg: Is that the best you have? Wow, original. Besides, who makes those claims about the Eagles? Apparently you do but I don’t know who else.
    @ omegalh: Nice one sir (or ma’am?)
    @ wetdentist: Nice syntax Yoda
    @ The Philadelphia Eagles: please cut this scumbag immediately and sign Jeff Garcia.

  32. StupidRednecks says: Jul 13, 2010 4:11 PM

    mama tried says:
    July 13, 2010 3:45 PM
    cut the trash and call Garcia!!!!!!!!!!!
    ———————————————-
    Why isn’t Garcia on an NFL roster yet?

  33. BackToJail4Vick says: Jul 13, 2010 4:16 PM

    Ideally, they should put Michael Vick, Lawrence Taylor, Rothlisberger, Allen Iverson, Plaxico Burress and all the rest of these hoodlums on an island somewhere and leave them there.

  34. Chop Block Murphy says: Jul 13, 2010 4:19 PM

    bigrig says:
    July 13, 2010 3:37 PM
    All we really know for sure at this point is that the Eagles won’t win the SB this year.
    Just like last year. And the year before that and the year………
    —————
    Correction. We also know that you won’t get laid this year.
    Just like last year. And the year before that and the year………

  35. Kevin from Philly says: Jul 13, 2010 4:20 PM

    Patsfan – the court order for Vick not to leave the state only applies to his personal trips. Any trip connected with his employment is allowed, according to yesterday’s Philly Inquirer.

  36. Brian Sipe says: Jul 13, 2010 4:26 PM

    They would be way better off, Troy Smith is 5 times the “quarterback” and person that Mike Vick will ever be. Eagles could only be that lucky.

  37. Jon Evans says: Jul 13, 2010 4:33 PM

    for those who still don’t know anything about his probation but feel to make “fact” out of it..
    The travel restriction only applies to daily life and not his job. He can travel to away games etc.

  38. Chop Block Murphy says: Jul 13, 2010 4:37 PM

    StupidRednecks says:
    July 13, 2010 4:11 PM
    Why isn’t Garcia on an NFL roster yet?
    ———————-
    Racism?

  39. JustinG says: Jul 13, 2010 4:41 PM

    I want to see Vick off the Eagles, but I’m getting a little tired of the BS articles, Florio. All you’re doing is taking what one journalist thinks in Philly and parroting it here — every day. If you don’t have any news to report, why do you bother posting? Certainly this isn’t real content — it’s the same non-story it was a week ago. Unless it is determined that Vick broke probation, and will therefore be punished (see jail time), the Eagles will do absolutely nothing. They aren’t in a hurry to sit around and say they were wrong to even bother signing this douchebag in the first place. You’ve got a lot to learn about the Eagles if you think they are going to admit they were wrong.

  40. TryTheVeal says: Jul 13, 2010 4:50 PM

    Gotta love this statement….
    “Vick is still free”…..But only in PA
    It sums up the mentality perfectly…

  41. 1nationraidernation says: Jul 13, 2010 5:06 PM

    throw enough stuff up against the wall, something is bound to stick

  42. Jaxeagle says: Jul 13, 2010 5:16 PM

    @chop block murphy, your probably right being he is hispanic and all. Anything attributed to Howard Eskin is complete and total BS.

  43. cmich06 says: Jul 13, 2010 5:20 PM

    # habibfromnewdehli says: July 13, 2010 4:00 PM
    The Ravens won’t trade Troy Smith anyway. They know he’s their best option if anything happens to Flacco.
    They only signed Bulger because they know that Smith is not staying after this season. He’s going to leave to go try and find a team he has the chance to start on.
    That’s it. It had nothing to do with Bulgers “amazing talent.” Stephen Jackson was behind the same offensive line that Bulger was behind… and he still managed to play decently.
    —————————————————-
    Bulger signed a one year deal…Smith will NEVER be a starter in this league

  44. lajimmy says: Jul 13, 2010 5:27 PM

    StupidRednecks says:
    July 13, 2010 4:11 PM
    Why isn’t Garcia on an NFL roster yet?
    ____________________________
    Because he’s collecting old age security.

  45. TryTheVeal says: Jul 13, 2010 5:29 PM

    You know your a complete jackass when the Gov’t has placed restrictions on your “daily life”…..but i suppose in due time an excuse will be conjured up, and it will be complete with slavery and the man references……It’s not enough, that he was king of the hill and thru sheer STUPIDITY pissed it all away, it’s everyone else fault he has continually lied, continually has made serious bad decisions……He could have been a man and done the right thing, so many kids looked up to him, he could have simply been admired, but no……We have to deal with the restrictons the Gov’t has put on him, as it’s everyone else’s fault…..Like it or not, Kids who dream, look up to pro athletes, i bet every damn player in the NBA wanted to be the next Jordan, and he never let them down, he did his job, ego aside, and never embarrassed himself……..Vick is a walking embarrassment……

  46. Montsta says: Jul 13, 2010 5:31 PM

    “a league source has pointed out the possibility that the ultimate explanation could be bad reporting. ”
    Whoever this league source is should be given a medal. The Internet age of reporting. Unconfirmed rumors and unnamed sources with zero credibility being touted as reliable persons for inside information. Once upon a time, reporters were fired for constantly missing the truth in their articles. Now you can call yourself a blogger instead of a journalist and throw crap at the wall and see what sticks. Alas, Michael Florio, that elusive press credential is your Great White Buffalo. You should be disbarred.

  47. TexasBubba says: Jul 13, 2010 5:44 PM

    Everyone is down on Roethlisberger because he is white. If he was black the race card would be played So to be fair this must be a race issue.

  48. tinopuno says: Jul 13, 2010 5:53 PM

    “(especially when the team flat-out lied earlier this year about the status of former starting quarterback Donovan McNabb)”
    ————————————————–
    Hey Little Mikey,
    Your stuff is much more enjoyable when you write without the long stick in your butt!

  49. bigrig says: Jul 13, 2010 6:13 PM

    @Heywoodjablowme & ChopBlockMurphy
    Boy, it looks like my SB post REALLY got to you two guys.
    Oh how it must eat at you, day after day, year after year. Knowing that you’ll go to your grave without ever seeing an Eagles SB win.
    I sure hope the Eagles keep Vick. That just seals the deal.

  50. Cereal Blogger says: Jul 13, 2010 6:22 PM

    Oh I like this idea

  51. Route36West says: Jul 13, 2010 6:35 PM

    especially when the team flat-out lied earlier this year about the status of former starting quarterback Donovan McNabb.
    You are such a jackass. You flip flop so much you have no clue when your contradicting yourself.
    Early this year right before and right after the Mcnabb trade you ran stories about how Andy wanted to keep him and how he got over ruled. Then you ran a bunch of other stories about Andy Reid losing his pull with in the organization.
    And who was it that said Donovan was going to be the starter this year. o thats right Andy Reid. So how is that flat out lying? Andy thought Mcnabb was going to stay and was fighting for it to happen. So when ANDY answered the question he gave them what he believed was the truth at the time.
    It cant be both either you fabricated a story about Andy losing the fight for Mcnabb and his sway with in the team back then or your fabricating a story now about the team lying. Which one is it?

  52. Annuvin says: Jul 13, 2010 8:26 PM

    I sure hope the Eagles keep Vick. That just seals the deal.
    *************
    The day that Dawgkilla is finally released by the Eagles should make the Skins, Giants and Cowgirls feel exacly the same way the Packers, Bears and Queens felt the day the Lions released Joey Heatherton.

  53. moleman says: Jul 13, 2010 9:37 PM

    Who does Philly have if Vick is done? However I think he is toast. Do the Eagles have anything up their sleeves? No.
    Eagles go from decent team to basement in 1 year.

  54. Hugh says: Jul 13, 2010 10:29 PM

    Chop Block Murphy says:
    July 13, 2010 4:37 PM
    StupidRednecks says:
    July 13, 2010 4:11 PM
    Why isn’t Garcia on an NFL roster yet?
    ——————– —
    Racism?
    ———————————————————————————————————
    That’s the “Comeback of the Future”.
    It deserves 130 million “hahaha”s. :)

  55. Mooch says: Jul 14, 2010 9:45 AM

    Moleman, this is Kolb’s “get killed while learning how to play in the NFL as a starter” year.
    Every QB goes through it. It’s a hard fact of life that you essentially write of a season to do it.
    That is why McNabb is gone, this team is so poor at so many positions it needs a 2 year reload / rebuild. McNabb would never have been able to bring this team much farther than last year, and we were miles away from a B- Cowboy team.
    Kolb IS the Eagles season. That and rebuilding the defense. So if Kolb goes down, it doesn’t matter who replaces him, the top 5 reasons for playing the games has gone by wayside.
    Heck, bring in Jeff George at that point.
    Vick is no long-term solution.

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