Comments on: Packers say player costs are rising at twice the rate of revenue

By: Hap

Hap — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 17:46:00 +0000

How much are The Packers books saying they made ?

By: dafish

dafish — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 17:41:09 +0000

Collusion? What a load of bullshit. Use those $5 words and theories for places where they are applicable.
For those teams that are “fiscally responsible” as the Packers claim to be, you’d think all the players would wind up in Washington, Dallas, New England, or the Jets.

By: funi

funi — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 17:29:32 +0000

Packers moving to L.A. cheeseheads!

By: va4favre

va4favre — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 17:18:55 +0000

Supersucker, It’s comments like yours that make me a former Pack fan! Why can’t you root for Rodgers without tearing down Favre? What has he done to you except bring in milllions and millions for GB. GB is down in local revenues, and that includes a dramatic decline in their merchandise sales. Also, when the Pack travel, there is no longer the demand that there used to be for tickets from fans. GB, of course, still has a loyal fan base, but they are not spending as much. Maybe when Rodgers wins two SBs, his merchandise sales will go up. He is very talented, but very homely with no charisma. It’s not going to be easy, but I already gave out my recipe for success.

By: Supersuckers

Supersuckers — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:22:42 +0000

FoF says:
July 14, 2010 4:00 PM
Rising player costs is nothing new, yet profits have taken a nose dive in the past 3 years. What has changed? Brett Favre is not longer with the team. There folks is the reason the Packers are strugling right now.
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No it isn’t the reason. its spelled out in the article. And Favre retired at the end of 2007. He retired. He got on the podium, on his own, and said he didn’t want to play anymore. It was going to happen sometime. And for Green bay that day in March 2008 was a fabulous, fabulous day. We now have the premier QB in the NFC and a young and powerful roster.

By: Lurch

Lurch — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:20:10 +0000

Revenue sharing is the key to success in the National Football League. Without it, football would resemble major league baseball, where the big market Yankees can outspend anyone for players.
When teams cannot buy their way out of mistakes, and must rely on good coaching and a well-run organization … the cream rises to the top.
Keep the financial playing field even, and let the talent – or lack of it … determine the rest.

By: FoF

FoF — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:00:18 +0000

Rising player costs is nothing new, yet profits have taken a nose dive in the past 3 years. What has changed? Brett Favre is not longer with the team. There folks is the reason the Packers are strugling right now.

By: Vikadontis Rex

Vikadontis Rex — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:58:58 +0000

I don’t get why people rip on the Vikings for struggling right now…
We just built a new Twins stadium and Gophers football stadium, we don’t have enough tax payers support for a new stadium. Do you really want the Vikings to move to LA? Then the Rams would join the North, wouldnt that be AWESOME!?!
Yeah the Vikings have a smaller fan base than the Packers, and personally I enjoy that. If I lived in New York I’d be a Jets and Mets fan.
The same things get posted from both sides in every single thread:
Packers fans: “How many superbowls have you won?”, “Your team will be nothing when Favre gets hurt/retires”, “Enjoy moving to LA”…
Vikings fans: “We’ve stomped you guys in recent history, won the last 2 division titles…” “Packers fans are fat.” (okay that last one was mine…)
It’s just ridiculous why people would cheer for the Vikings to move when it would break up the NFC North… Yeah we haven’t won any superbowls but we true fans stick to our team even with years of heartbreak. That’s what being a fan is.

By: twizzlystick

twizzlystick — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:56:42 +0000

The way things are going there’s a real possibility that all the 1 share owners in Wisconsin are gonna have their homes foreclosed on to pay for all the Packers debt and even that probably won’t be enough.

By: robert ethen

robert ethen — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:34:03 +0000

I think it’s all tied to the hog-share market. Less of the hogs in Wisco are willing to share their disposable income.

By: Supersuckers

Supersuckers — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:25:05 +0000

pervy harvin says:
July 14, 2010 2:53 PM
Thanks for letting me beat up on you Packer douchers,I really have enjoyed it. Even though your posts bordered on mental masturbation,was enjoyable. I am retiring from PFT to pursue a hazardous endeavor. Heres to always losing to the Vikings!
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Real original Whig!! See ya soon!!

By: forthelove

forthelove — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:03:09 +0000

Financial information comparing 2006 to present would be helpful in assessing this report. e.g. Were the Packers below the cap in ’06? How far? Are they below the cap now (or what the cap would be if there were one this year)? How far? I could imagine signing long-term contracts to players like Jennings and A-rod could take up a substantial portion of that $22 million. Answers to the cap values from above would help see whether the $22M increase is from fluctuations in spending or a true upward trend.

By: pervy harvin

pervy harvin — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:53:20 +0000

Thanks for letting me beat up on you Packer douchers,I really have enjoyed it. Even though your posts bordered on mental masturbation,was enjoyable. I am retiring from PFT to pursue a hazardous endeavor. Heres to always losing to the Vikings!

By: robert ethen

robert ethen — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:35:39 +0000

Packers are stocking up on styrofoam and cardboard.

By: MotorCityKitties

MotorCityKitties — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:23:45 +0000

You know what I like about GB? The way those hillbilly fans stack blocks of cheese on their heads like a pack of zilches. Only in Lambeau is a fungus a fashion statement. You know what I like about the Vikings? The pretty, yellow yarn pig-tails that those dum-dums wear. Keep looking stupid with those horns and purple pom-poms. Both your teams STINK! Sincerely, Angry Lions Fan

By: sand0

sand0 — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:18:11 +0000

I would be pissed if my team of choice admitted to fielding a “budget roster”. That is pretty sad considering how proud the people there claim to be of their football team.
I just don’t see how the Packers win more than 8 games this season. You heard it here folks. They had a good run there in Green Bay but ultimately the city just couldn’t support a professional franchise in today’s ultra competitive atmosphere.

By: Steel Dahn Sahth

Steel Dahn Sahth — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:16:51 +0000

Both sides are attempting to win the hearts of the public before the lockout.
I support the owners. If they lose, we’ll have another MLB.

By: sand0

sand0 — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:15:04 +0000

Packer stock just keeps on dropping. It will be interesting to see what happens in that small city if their “budget team” starts to win like a budget team usually does, i.e. not much. They are on more shaky ground than their fans would like to admit.
Despite having what they perceive to be this insanely popular team their team still has to operate with a relatively low payroll just to turn a profit. Ruh roh raggy…

By: robert ethen

robert ethen — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:12:52 +0000

On the bright side, by the time all the player suspensions are handed down, the Packers should cut their payroll by about half.

By: oldlefthander

oldlefthander — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:07:34 +0000

Baseball owners were slapped for collusion several times in the ’80s, also during a down economy.
Yelling about it and calling people names wouldn’t have made it go away then, and it won’t make it go away now. (If, in fact, there is any hard evidence it is happening.)

By: Satanic Hell Creature

Satanic Hell Creature — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:53:02 +0000

GBfanForever says:
July 14, 2010 12:49 PM
The rookie cap is needed. I’m just thankful as a packer fan that the team is run well enough to be profitable and have a competitive roster in tough times. They can’t say that in minnesota.
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Again, a Packer fan has to take an article or posting that is solely about their team and turn it into a Vikings thread. You obviously suffer from V.D.S. (Viking Derangement Syndrome). Read the article, take for what it’s worth and coment on it without turning it into a Viking thread. So sad…

By: ChiefsNfl

ChiefsNfl — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:51:40 +0000

@ Chapnasty2:
What does being a liberal have anything to do with football? You’re confusing politics and sports. Fiscal responsibility is necessary regardless of who you are or represent, and collusion is always a consideration when professional sports are involved.

By: robert ethen

robert ethen — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:46:14 +0000

All the numbers are red. “Like BLAAAHHD!” howled Count Ted.

By: Bob Nelson

Bob Nelson — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:44:49 +0000

The Packers are one of the top revenue teams in the NFL.
They have to pay into the NFL’s welfare program for poor franchises called supplemental revenue sharing.
Do you forget when Jerry Jones was fined for chastizing the vikings for not paying their fair share and being supported by successful small market teams Green Bay and Kansas City?
Some of you better look up some facts before spewing ignorance and lies.
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/30/sportsmoney_nfl08_NFL-Team-Valuations_Revenue.html
Remember the Green Bay Packers have the lowest debt (if any) of any NFL franchise.
The Green Bay Packers are better off than most NFL franchises especially the Steelers Mr. ignorance, steelers79. Look it up.

By: garylandon41

garylandon41 — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:39:46 +0000

Too bad more teams in the NFL don’t have the accountability that the Packers are held to as a public organization. The league would be better.
The NFL is lucky to have the Packers.

By: robert ethen

robert ethen — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:38:16 +0000

Count Ted can’t count in his counting house.

By: Contra

Contra — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:34:34 +0000

GBfanForever says:
July 14, 2010 1:25 PM
Oh Contra, what will we do with you? You prove my point that the vikings aren’t profitable do to a lack of a stadium. If the franchise was run better, you’d have a new stadium. The twins have one, so should the vikings, if they weren’t mismanaged.
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You’d be absolutely right if Governor Tim Pawlenty owned the team and was not trying to make a run at the presidents office. Unfortunately…that is not the case.

By: whatthehellisgoingonoutthere

whatthehellisgoingonoutthere — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:33:44 +0000

# VikingsPrincess says: July 14, 2010 12:59 PM
@ GBfanForever
You don’t think that the Vikings have a competitive roster? That’s interesting given our 2009 performance against the Packers.
Zygi Wilf turns enough of a profit to give our QB $13 million to play this year.
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LMAO. You Vikings fans don’t even know the details regarding your own team. Zygi had to put Favre’s 2009 salary on Lay-A-Way to be paid out in installments through 2011 when he’s not even on the roster. His 2010 salary is going to be paid even further out into the future. If the Vikings (the lowest revenue team in the NFL) turns enough of a profit, then why does he have to make a cash call to investors to pay Jared Allen’s signing bonus.
The Packers fall somewhere in between #6-#12 in league revenue. If they’re making only $5 million in profit, you really think the Vikings at 32 are making a dime in profit? Please…..

By: Mark0226

Mark0226 — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:33:09 +0000

You need to get off the collusion bandwagon. Operating under budget is smart business, not a conspiracy.

By: GBfanForever

GBfanForever — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:25:05 +0000

Oh Contra, what will we do with you? You prove my point that the vikings aren’t profitable do to a lack of a stadium. If the franchise was run better, you’d have a new stadium. The twins have one, so should the vikings, if they weren’t mismanaged.