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Pete Carroll's own cheating could make it harder for USC on appeal

Cheat-Forever.jpgPete Carroll is angling for maximum publicity this week.  He’s on a book tour, hawking Win Forever . . . And Then Just Ignore It When They Take Those Wins Away After Evidence Of Cheating Emerges (a/k/a Cheat Forever).  And he’s getting plenty of publicity, but surely not the kind he wanted.

Selling a book requires the author to submit to interviews, and since Carroll isn’t carrying around a ventriloquist dummy that bears a curious resemblance to Jim Gray, Carroll doesn’t get to pick the questions.  So the interviews inevitably will include more than a queries regarding the strong sanctions levied against his former employer, USC, and Carroll’s role in the situation.

It started Monday, when the only thing anyone cared about regarding Carroll’s interview with the Associated Press was his acknowledgment that he “feel[s] responsible” for the situation in which the Trojans now find themselves.  Tonight, the HBO-subscribing world will be able to watch for themselves as Andrea Kremer of Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel interviews Carroll, whose book gets only a passing mention amid a barrage of evidence and arguments indicating that Carroll can’t run or hide from the fact that he knew or should have known about Reggie Bush getting paid — and that Carroll can’t credibly pretend he didn’t barge his way out of the party in front of the women, the children, and Eric the Clown when it appeared that the NCAA was preparing to burn the place down.

On Tuesday, Carroll had engineered a trip to ESPN, where he surely would be swatting softballs out of the park without once ever hearing the name “Reggie Bush.”  Then came news of the passing of George Steinbrenner, and Carroll’s trip to Bristol became an afterthought.

Now comes a report from Paul Pringle of the Los Angeles Times that sets aside the more compelling Bush-got-paid storyline and focuses on the potential impact of a separate violation on USC’s chances of successfully appealing the sanctions imposed.  Carroll, who already had the maximum number of coaches on his staff, secretly hired NFL special-teams coach Pete Rodriguez as a “consultant.”  (Carroll previously told the Times that he had cleared the hire with the compliance office; the NCAA found otherwise.)  And Pringle quotes a sports law expert and USC alum who believes that Carroll’s specific conduct in that instance will make it harder for the Trojans to prevail on appeal.

“There are
major rule violations found against not only his student athletes but
against his coaching staff and a decision he made,” Michael Buckner told Pringle.

Pringle also points out that Carroll’s two-minute YouTube video released in the wake of the announcement of the sanctions omits any reference to the sanctions arising from the clandestine hiring of Rodriguez, focusing only on the notion that he didn’t know about the money and other stuff Bush was getting. 

Meanwhile, Carroll continues to relentlessly pimp his book on his Twitter account, with plenty of exclamation points and references to signing events.  And not a single question submitted by anyone other than the ventriloquist dummy that bears a striking resemblance to Jim Gray.

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45 Responses to “Pete Carroll's own cheating could make it harder for USC on appeal”
  1. answer3 says: Jul 14, 2010 10:10 AM

    well, he was a New England Patriot before going to USC…I’m jus sayin’…..

  2. brownsfn says: Jul 14, 2010 10:24 AM

    CHEATER and a RAT…ya that’s the kind of coach I would love to have…eyesroll…

  3. The Oven says: Jul 14, 2010 10:27 AM

    one a patriocheater…

  4. Iron Wolf says: Jul 14, 2010 10:31 AM

    …but a Jet before that. Just sayin’…….

  5. mr_snrub says: Jul 14, 2010 10:34 AM

    I thought Carroll now coaches in the NFL, where if you aren’t cheating you aren’t trying.
    Give ’em hell Petey.

  6. WeAreLuckyToHaveMikeFlorio says: Jul 14, 2010 10:36 AM

    the only thing clean about Petey C are his fingernails. thats because he wont get his hands dirty when he has other minions to do his dirty work.
    all you Pete Carroll worshipers remember, he hired more coaches than the law allowed notwithstanding his turning a blind eye (2 of em)to reggie bush et all.
    Pete, your gosh im so positive i cant hardly pee act wore me out yesterday on Sirius NFL radio.
    you shilling your book with a couple of USC apologists was just par for Petey’s course.
    Heres hoping Seattle wins about 8 games in 2 yrs.
    then lets see how puritanical Petey acts then when he is getting is own butt kicked to the curb.

  7. WhoDeySood5 says: Jul 14, 2010 10:37 AM

    shameful that this clown won’t get in any trouble for what he did and allowed to be done while at USC… poop, atleast the seahawks suck though right?

  8. BIG BLUE in tx says: Jul 14, 2010 10:42 AM

    A poor kid getting a house and some money for his family translated into wins how?
    I’m still not sure how any of this is cheating? There were no stolen signals, performance enhancing substances, paid off refs, stolen game plans, sabotaging of the opposing team, or illegal spying. A poor kid was offered money and a house for his family and he took it, what 18 year old wouldn’t? And because Carroll didn’t stop it then he cheated? Sure, some stupid NCAA rules were broken, the hypocrites love making billions off the labor of college kids without showing them dime, but breaking NCAA’s rules off the field doesn’t mean cheating on the field.
    I’m sure that there are millions of fans of the teams that USC beat that want the National Championship taken away from USC, but that’s just a bunch of people whining cause a better team spanked them. Take away the money and the house and USC would have had the same success and still spanked your team. Hey, they spanked my Notre Dame but I’m not whining!

  9. Chris Fiorentino says: Jul 14, 2010 10:47 AM

    Mike, until they change the rules, why bash Carroll? Yeah, he is not the most ethical person, and should not be allowed to make money coaching football on any level, but the fact is that he hasn’t broken any NFL rules and the NFL allows these immoral cheaters into the league, so let’s bash the NFL and the NCAA for allowing these guys to get away with it without reprimand. No, you wouldn’t do that of course, because why would you bash the NFL when it is so much easier to bash Pete Carroll.

  10. downwithdansnyder says: Jul 14, 2010 10:51 AM

    When I saw your headline about cheating I thought you meant that story about him cheating on his wife and living with a grad student. I guess you cheat at one thing you will cheat at everything.

  11. FrankoBollo says: Jul 14, 2010 10:54 AM

    Kind of ironic that the biggest crybabies about (Super Bowl) cheating are the ones who welcomed Pete the Cheat to coach their team.

  12. Jagdbaer says: Jul 14, 2010 10:55 AM

    USC got caught with not only having an ineligble player (whom they should have kept an eye on) but also hiring an “extra” coach illeagally. Pete Carroll was responsible for creating the campus atmosphere that occured and now the school is paying for it.

  13. BasicInstinct says: Jul 14, 2010 10:55 AM

    The NBA got around the insanity of the NCAA slavery system for a few years by drafting kids out of high school….now the kids have to “give a year” to their favorite college before getting drafted.
    Millions of unemployed college grads know what their education is worth in todays job market….not much.
    How about a money back guarantee NCAA?

  14. Maddog says: Jul 14, 2010 10:56 AM

    BIG BLUE in tx says:
    July 14, 2010 10:42 AM
    A poor kid getting a house and some money for his family translated into wins how?
    Okay, new record for the dumbest comment I’ve ever read on this site. Congrats.

  15. stiller43 says: Jul 14, 2010 11:07 AM

    Hey…just like the Pats…sweet.

  16. c hox says: Jul 14, 2010 11:19 AM

    ole sneaky pete are ya’s

  17. nocheaters says: Jul 14, 2010 11:22 AM

    @ BIG BLUE
    You’re right that it is unlikely that a “poor kid a house and some money for his family translated into wins.” The problem is when it becomes a pattern, and all recruits learn the patterns, and the best recruits want to take advantage of that pattern. After just a couple of years, guess where the best recruits, poor or not, end up?

  18. sand0 says: Jul 14, 2010 11:26 AM

    Obviously these rumors are all false because Carroll has the persona of a nice guy.

  19. The Real Shuxion says: Jul 14, 2010 11:26 AM

    He should have just injected all their players with Steriods and HGH, like the Steelers have. It is easier that way.

  20. hotchick says: Jul 14, 2010 11:32 AM

    Maddog… 2nd dumbest. #1 is the one who want to associate the cheating to the Patriots.
    After years of “that cheater Bellichek” its now Pete Carroll’s doing?

  21. nocheaters says: Jul 14, 2010 11:32 AM

    Oh and can someone remind me… who did Pete Carroll learn from originally? Right. That’s what I thought

  22. Airperuvian says: Jul 14, 2010 11:39 AM

    nocheaters says:
    July 14, 2010 11:22 AM
    @ BIG BLUE
    You’re right that it is unlikely that a “poor kid a house and some money for his family translated into wins.” The problem is when it becomes a pattern, and all recruits learn the patterns, and the best recruits want to take advantage of that pattern. After just a couple of years, guess where the best recruits, poor or not, end up?
    It can also translate into wins by having reggie not having to worry about his family living in poverty because he knows that whatever they need will be fulfilled by the would-be agents. So that couldve helped to elevate his football career by being able to focus only on football and not football and family.

  23. Gigerama says: Jul 14, 2010 11:41 AM

    Go Seahawks!!!

  24. yem123 says: Jul 14, 2010 11:50 AM

    nice, I love the Seinfeld reference!!!
    “How do you live with yourself?”
    “It’s not easy….”

  25. sharkattack says: Jul 14, 2010 12:23 PM

    I’m sorry but I just don’t get it.
    I mean the Reggie Bush thing is not cheating. It’s breaking rules. Did the house and car improve Bush’s on-field performance?
    Everything that team accomplished is real. It happened. The NCAA can’t just pretend they weren’t national champions.
    Personally, I don’t care one but about any party involved in this story. Not Carroll, not USC, and not the Seahawks. I’m just saying it doesn’t look like a big deal to me.

  26. tryagain says: Jul 14, 2010 12:38 PM

    sharkattack says: I mean the Reggie Bush thing is not cheating. It’s breaking rules.
    Maybe you should consider going back to school yourself. Per mr. webster:
    Main Entry: cheat
    Pronunciation: \ˈchēt\
    1 a : to practice fraud or trickery b : to violate rules
    Please note definition b.
    Maybe if Reggie didn’t get the house and car or whatever he would have played elsewhere- who knows? It’s kind of like buying players to play for your team in that way, which as you know it’s a university and that’s not supposed to happen. I really don’t understand the confusion about this at all.

  27. ItalianArmyGuy says: Jul 14, 2010 12:42 PM

    Pete Carroll, Belicheat, Ted Kennedy, Manny Ramirez, Big Pappi – what do they all have in common?
    Asterisk city

  28. bigrig says: Jul 14, 2010 12:43 PM

    Is Pete pimpin his book harder than PFT pimped their pre-season magazine?
    If he is, now that’s BIG PIMPIN.

  29. bearsfan says: Jul 14, 2010 12:53 PM

    Eric the Clown … that’s funny stuff. Good thing Eric wasn’t hung up on some clown from the 60’s.

  30. SeriousRadio says: Jul 14, 2010 12:55 PM

    More public urination by Florio, who regularly cheats by stealing 99% of his PFT material from other sites.

  31. AlanSaysYo says: Jul 14, 2010 1:20 PM

    Florio, do you really think it’s a good idea to call negative attention to another man’s book when you have written one of the most steaming piles of garbage in the history of the written word?

  32. sasquash69 says: Jul 14, 2010 1:20 PM

    I’m sorry but who cares? College kids should get paid. These schools charge insane prices to the average student, so much money that half these kids are in debt until there early to mid 30s. They should pay there athletes, they make a ton of money off them. Most of them only go to school as a stepping stone to the NFL (the more gifted, highly recruited ones), not for the education. So I say the NCAA needs to stop hording all there money and pay these kids. Stop with these BS investigations over nothing. Every school has boosters that will pay in some way or another, so stop acting like this doesn’t happen at every major program.

  33. NarDawg says: Jul 14, 2010 1:23 PM

    Selling a book requires the author to submit to interviews, and since Carroll isn’t carrying around a ventriloquist dummy that bears a curious resemblance to Jim Gray, Carroll doesn’t get to pick the questions.

  34. JibbyJabs says: Jul 14, 2010 1:23 PM

    Florio, u reference Seinfeld as much as Seinfeld references superman on Seinfeld.

  35. Ganggreen61 says: Jul 14, 2010 1:25 PM

    Big Blue in tx…………I’m now dumber for reading your stuff.

  36. gurnblanston says: Jul 14, 2010 1:33 PM

    Under the rules USC will have to forfeit their victories as if they had not fielded a team. Reggie Bush should have to forfeit his Heisman by the logic that USC did not field an eligible team. And Pete Carroll should have to forfeit his salary, income from camps, shoes, etc., along with the wins on his record because he did coach an eligible team. Carroll is a smug piece of crap who holds himself accountable to no one. I hope he flames in the NFL again.
    I do feel for Seahawks fans, a great fan base that has stood behind it’s team through lean decades and a stolen Super Bowl. They deserve better than this piece of crap. Seahawks fans must feel just a little dirty.

  37. tv says: Jul 14, 2010 2:14 PM

    The more I learn about One Pete the more I think he is one of the biggest douche bags in the game. And that is saying something.

  38. Hawkfan50 says: Jul 14, 2010 2:50 PM

    Hey FrankoBollo – did you actually watch that particular Superbowl , or were you too busy crying in your beer because your pathetic team wasn’t in it ?

  39. tp says: Jul 14, 2010 3:11 PM

    As a USC fan I can say that USC’s compliance office should have done much, much better.
    However, this is not a case where anyone associated with USC was paying a player or multiple players (see Alabama)to come to the school. This was a wanna-be agent who if anything wanted Reggie to leave school as quickly as possible so he could get paid.
    This is not a case of systematic academic fraud involving dozens of football players (see Florida St) or financial aid fraud (see Miami).
    So it boils down to a case involving one football player who accepted benefits from an out-side agent not affiliated with the school. The compliance department should have found out about this and some punishment is justified but worse than what those schools I mentioned above got?
    There was no competitive advantage gained here. The whole thing is pretty weak.

  40. Arizona Buckeye says: Jul 14, 2010 3:34 PM

    @sasquash – seriously? How about the cost of a 4 year education, room and board for those 4 years, access to the best tutors, never getting closed out of a class, the best coaching staffs, work out facilities, and the chance to audition on the biggest stage for the NFL. That is what the college athlete gets paid! Not to mention the revenue from football funds a tremendous number of other sports that would not be in existence otherwise – not to mention the scholarships for students to play in those sports.

  41. Donna says: Jul 14, 2010 4:21 PM

    I always wondered when the dirt would come out on him. For all his talk about the “great USC program” how quickly he decided to tarnish it and run like a coward to the hills (Seattle). Its a shame that others will take the fall for him and he’ll still go to the NFL and make millions.
    I say better hope that works out for ya Petey, doubtful you’ll land another decent coaching job in college ball!

  42. blitz4848 says: Jul 14, 2010 7:36 PM

    Poor Peteee…..Not sure why we would have expected him to think anything was wrong at his program. What, with 12-20 agents at each and every practice, players rolling in and out of the player parking lot in new and different rides every month and trails of 20’s $$$ blowing out of players pockets as they jogged from the practice field to the locker room–that’s just standard operating proceedure so why say anything. With filthy rich alumni walking the perimeter of the practice field nodding, smiling and speaking to players by name. It made you wonder which player (s) each alum had in his pocket! USC is a fine school with a rich tradition but it is being tarnished by rich, egotistical, self serving INDIVIDUALS and the admin needs to step in and clean house. Garrett is a joke-nothing but a figurehead/puppet and that’s why they keep him there. Bringing in Kiffin was another joke–many better coaches/USC grads could have been hired.
    When the NCAA holds their feet to the fire and doesn’t reduce ANY of the penalties maybe then and only then will wiser heads prevail. This program more than any other in the country has been hijacked by the rich, famous and influential
    bigshots of SOCAL!!!!!!!!!!!!

  43. Ganggreen61 says: Jul 14, 2010 7:59 PM

    University Shyster California.

  44. CDAseahawk says: Jul 14, 2010 8:03 PM

    BIG BLUE in tx says:
    July 14, 2010 10:42 AM
    A poor kid getting a house and some money for his family translated into wins how?
    ——————– ——————– ——
    Okay, new record for the dumbest comment I’ve ever read on this site. Congrats.
    New Record for the lamest slam I’ve ever read on this site. Congrats. Big Blue – couldnt agree more. Jealous hateful whiners whose team got spanked by a far superior USC team. P.S. Florio please stop with the Seinfeld references, I love that show but the fact that you also like it makes me hate it.

  45. FumbleNuts says: Jul 14, 2010 8:52 PM

    College is over for Pete Carroll, I could care less what he did, or didn’t do at USC.
    Bottom Line: He is now back in the NFL, and the win/loss record is all that matters for the Seahawks.

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