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Jolly's suspension is for substance abuse

When news of Packers defensive end Johnny Jolly’s indefinite suspension broke Friday, we assumed the ban was related to Jolly’s pending drug trial.  Jolly is accused of numerous offenses that essentially paint him as a drug kingpin in the Houston area.

NFL Network’s Jason La Canfora, however, reports that Jolly was suspended not for a conduct code violation, but for breaking the league’s rules against substance abuse.  La Canfora’s report leaves the door open for Jolly’s suspension to stem from something unrelated to his court case.  Like one or more failed drug tests.
Therefore, the indefinite ban figures to be continued beyond this season if, in addition to violating the NFL’s Substance Abuse Policy, Jolly is convicted of what Texas prosecutors have alleged and is thus found to be in violation of the Personal Conduct Policy. 
La Canfora wondered aloud on Twitter whether “this is the end for Jolly in the NFL.”
ESPN’s Michael Smith reported Friday afternoon on NFL Live that Jolly will have the opportunity to seek reinstatement following Super Bowl XLV.  
UPDATE: ESPN has now changed Jolly’s position from the false designation of defensive tackle to the correct classification of defensive end, but Jolly is still referred to as a “DT” in ESPN’s headline.
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  1. gregjennings says: Jul 16, 2010 5:03 PM

    Told ya!!! See my post on the first Jolly post.

  2. Wet Paper Bag says: Jul 16, 2010 5:05 PM

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha….

  3. mattgso says: Jul 16, 2010 5:08 PM

    As a Packer fan, I’m saddened by the choices he made but he made them. So get his ass off the team and out of the league.

  4. mgulrud says: Jul 16, 2010 5:11 PM

    ok, no big deal.. just have the state rule that under state laws he can use those drugs (right minn?)

  5. merrillhodgestoupee says: Jul 16, 2010 5:12 PM

    of course it was….the purple drank leads to this stuff.
    I think all of Grundge Bay is on the purple drank thinking they got some sort of chance this year with Erin Rodgers.

  6. se18a29 says: Jul 16, 2010 5:12 PM

    lol lol lol lol lol lol lol…
    And yet another packer drug addict… hahahahahahahahah…. what a complete loser team…. Favre will own their arses AGAIN this year…. Bwwwaaaahhhhhhh!

  7. Ben Aqui says: Jul 16, 2010 5:18 PM

    I know pft can’t resist a chance to knock ESPN, but it only makes this site look bad. Johhny Jolly played DE last year because the Packers switched from a 4-3 to 3-4 base defense. For the 11 years prior to that (HS, NCAA and 3 yrs in the NFL) he played almost exclusively at DT.

  8. kirklands-belly says: Jul 16, 2010 5:23 PM

    “# se18a29 says: July 16, 2010 5:12 PM
    lol lol lol lol lol lol lol…
    And yet another packer drug addict… hahahahahahahahah… . what a complete loser team…. Favre will own their arses AGAIN this year…. Bwwwaaaahhhhhhh!”
    ————————————————–
    Um, wasn’t Favre a drug addict?

  9. gregjennings says: Jul 16, 2010 5:24 PM

    It’s Okay. I take pride that the players on the Packers are punished for their deeds. Unlike some other teams I know.

  10. Bordner says: Jul 16, 2010 5:25 PM

    The difference between WI and East Dakota is that we will respect the decision of the league and support this suspension – might not even let him back on the team.
    In ED, they go crying to the courts to allow their players to keep playing.
    Why? It’s because they care so much more about their football team than we do. And support them much more fervently than we ever will. I mean, other than the fact that they can’t sell out playoff games and will be seeing their team move to LA shortly.

  11. steelerhypocrite says: Jul 16, 2010 5:26 PM

    Typical Packer. Bring back the underage raping tight end. Is it just irony that he started selling drugs after Favre left? Poor guy, he couldn’t deal without the greatest QB ever on his team…

  12. Mac says: Jul 16, 2010 5:29 PM

    As another Packer fan, I say ship the fat piece of crap off to the Bengals.

  13. twizzlystick says: Jul 16, 2010 5:30 PM

    If Ted Thompson hadn’t wasted a 1st round pick on Harrell this wouldn’t be so devastating for the packers but I guess no use crying over spilt drank.

  14. EasyDrinkingBuschLight says: Jul 16, 2010 5:34 PM

    Packer fans comparing Jolly to the Williams boys are comparing (very large) apples to (very large) oranges. Jolly is being busted in criminal court for serious illegal drug violations. The Williams took legal supplements for weight loss that were unknowingly (except to the NFL) spiked with something the NFL doesn’t approve of but is still legal. So don’t try to compare your junkie defensive lineman to the a couple of guys trying to make weight.
    In addition, the Packers are the ones who picked up Koren Robinson after the Vikings kicked him off the team for his umpteenth DUI. Just sayin’.

  15. merrillhodgestoupee says: Jul 16, 2010 5:34 PM

    Best things to come out of Wisconsin…
    I94, I90 Ed Gein and Jeffery Dahlmer
    Keep your drug dealers, rapist tight ends and favre apologists…

  16. CleanSlaton says: Jul 16, 2010 5:41 PM

    stupid, stupid, stupid, STUPID Aggie.

  17. njhitman says: Jul 16, 2010 5:44 PM

    Stay classless Packer fans . You talk SH!T on all the other teams till it hits home LMAO

  18. whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says: Jul 16, 2010 5:47 PM

    twizzlystick says: July 16, 2010 5:30 PM
    If Ted Thompson hadn’t wasted a 1st round pick on Harrell this wouldn’t be so devastating for the packers but I guess no use crying over spilt drank.
    —————-
    You make no sense. That would be like saying if the Vikings didn’t waste a #7 pick on Troy Williamson, they wouldn’t have had to overpay a scrub like Bernard Berrian who’s never had a 1000 yd season or double digit TD’s making him the #4 highest paid WR in the game.

  19. CanadianVikingFan says: Jul 16, 2010 5:48 PM

    Unfortunately, ESPN doesn’t know what position Jolly plays.
    UPDATE: ESPN has now changed Jolly’s position from the false designation of defensive tackle to the correct classification of defensive end, but Jolly is still referred to as a “DT” in ESPN’s headline.
    ——————————–
    Oh snap! Take that ESPN… More correct reports on the NFL from you guys and stop going into depth about other NFL reporter screwups please.

  20. Satanic Hell Creature says: Jul 16, 2010 5:49 PM

    Can’t be…Jimminy and Bob told us that Packers players don’t ever do anything wrong, immoral, illegal or against any rules.

  21. VikingsPrincess says: Jul 16, 2010 5:53 PM

    @Bordner
    You said, “The difference between WI and East Dakota is that we will respect the decision of the league and support this suspension – might not even let him back on the team. ”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    And if this had been Grant or Driver?
    Me thinks that it would depend upon the player involved. Favorite quote about Jolly last year? The Percy Harvin play where the 3 defenders collided: “Favre has lots of time… Jolly isn’t even a factor here.” (I paraphrased the announcer – the exact quote escapes me).

  22. ICEWALKER says: Jul 16, 2010 6:03 PM

    mattgso says:
    July 16, 2010 5:08 PM
    As a Packer fan, I’m saddened by the choices he made but he made them. So get his ass off the team and out of the league.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Totally agree. Maybe if more teams stopped signing these ‘risky players’ then the league will stop looking like a farm team of the FPL (Federal Penitentiary League).

  23. Raider Pride says: Jul 16, 2010 6:11 PM

    No worries for the Packers. Ted is always one step ahead of everything.
    Ted is the best GM in the NFL.
    I hope he is running the Raiders one day!

  24. bbq says: Jul 16, 2010 6:15 PM

    I thought Jolly WAS a DT.
    Oh, he only switched to DE last year due to scheme change? ESPN’S BAD. OOOOHHHHH SNAP.
    Either way that dude is done. He might get a deal in 2011 or 2012 but, out of practice and off the juice, he will be useless.

  25. Satanic Hell Creature says: Jul 16, 2010 6:16 PM

    VikingsPrincess says:
    July 16, 2010 5:53 PM
    @Bordner
    You said, “The difference between WI and East Dakota is that we will respect the decision of the league and support this suspension – might not even let him back on the team. ”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    And if this had been Grant or Driver?
    Me thinks that it would depend upon the player involved. Favorite quote about Jolly last year? The Percy Harvin play where the 3 defenders collided: “Favre has lots of time… Jolly isn’t even a factor here.” (I paraphrased the announcer – the exact quote escapes me).
    ————————————————–
    This idiot obviously doesn’t realize that a vast majority of suspended players appeal their suspensions. I’m sure Jolly will too. The big difference is that in the case of Pat and Kevin Williams, they had reasonable proof that the league didn’t need to suspend them if it had notified the players of it’s knowledge beforehand.
    One of my favorite quotes from the season was from that same play also. Aikman said ” and he makes the play on the ball and no one else does, then it’s just keystone kops”

  26. mattgso says: Jul 16, 2010 6:21 PM

    VikingsPrincess says: July 16, 2010 5:53 PM
    @Bordner
    You said, “The difference between WI and East Dakota is that we will respect the decision of the league and support this suspension – might not even let him back on the team. ”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    And if this had been Grant or Driver?
    ———————————————-
    Then kick Driver and Grant off the team too. Packers don’t have many fair-weather fans unlike the neighbors to the west.

  27. funi says: Jul 16, 2010 6:23 PM

    Favre did pain killers, Chumura likes 14 year old girls, Jolly involved in drug trafficing, but Green Bay is titletown evern though they won 1 Super Bowl in the last 40 years! Move the Packers to L.A.! Green Bay does not deserve a team!

  28. Qoojo says: Jul 16, 2010 6:25 PM

    As a packer fan, I hope this guy never plays for the packers again. He is seriously stupid. I mean Vikings fan stupid.

  29. 30PTBUCK says: Jul 16, 2010 6:27 PM

    Rapist TE? Wow Dumb ass does not guilty mean anything to you? Jolly should have been suspended by the league a long time ago and since he played so bad against the self appointed SB Champs ( They cheated the refs cheated) you guys should be mad he’s gone

  30. Love_Boat_Scandal says: Jul 16, 2010 6:29 PM

    twizzlystick says:
    July 16, 2010 5:30 PM
    If Ted Thompson hadn’t wasted a 1st round pick on Harrell this wouldn’t be so devastating for the packers but I guess no use crying over spilt drank.
    ***************
    Oh Twizzlydick. You so crazy.

  31. Green n' Gold says: Jul 16, 2010 6:33 PM

    @twizzlystick
    Devestated? Hardly dufus! Why do you think Ted drafted two Dlineman in this years draft. They were tipped off by Goodell before the draft. Mark Murphy our pres. is tight with the Comish. We don’t even need this stiff! LMAO at all the haters. You’ll see..

  32. bigrig says: Jul 16, 2010 6:38 PM

    You can’t win with all dopers and you can’t win with all choir boys.
    You need a nice blend.

  33. Dial-A-Cliche says: Jul 16, 2010 6:40 PM

    gregjennings says:
    “It’s Okay. I take pride that the players on the Packers are punished for their deeds. Unlike some other teams I know”.
    You must be immensely proud of the Packers for pulling the strings in the Mark Chmura rape trial. Nice job discrediting a 17 year old girl and getting him acquitted. Of course the Packers believed he was innocent. That’s why they cut him shortly after the story died down. A proud little saga in Packer history.
    You obviously do not have daughters. And just as obviously are a world-class hypocrite, second only to Bob “Propaganda Minister” Nelson.

  34. montanabob says: Jul 16, 2010 6:51 PM

    So much for thinking Goodell was a good commish; total BS that the punishment for recreational drug abuse is worse than cheaters taking PEDs.

  35. twizzlystick says: Jul 16, 2010 6:53 PM

    Raider Pride says: July 16, 2010 6:11 PM
    No worries for the Packers. Ted is always one step ahead of everything.
    Ted is the best GM in the NFL.
    *******************************
    Good one!
    Green n’ Gold says: July 16, 2010 6:33 PM
    @twizzlystick
    We don’t even need this stiff!
    *********************************
    He was your starting LDE and a big part of your defense. Sometimes denial is a healthy step in the grieving process. Therefore continue.

  36. Dial-A-Cliche says: Jul 16, 2010 6:59 PM

    Speaking of Bob Nelson, where is that blow-hard today?
    Hey Bob, I’m publicly calling you out both as a phoney hypocrite and a coward.
    Post some of your disgustingly delusional bullshit about how the Packers are the most ethical, best run, held to a higher standard organization in the NFL. One that doesn’t have legal problems with it’s players like the Minnesota Vikings. Today proves once again, the Packers have the same problems as every other NFL team.

  37. gregjennings says: Jul 16, 2010 7:16 PM

    @ Dial-A-Cliche
    Yes!!! I’m totally proud the way the Packers cut his ass. Sounds like punishment to me.

  38. robert ethen says: Jul 16, 2010 7:17 PM

    “In the alley of the Jolly Ho! Ho! Ho! Green Bay Packer!”.

  39. Green n' Gold says: Jul 16, 2010 7:36 PM

    @twizzlystick
    Denial? Hardly.. Point is he was already being phased out before his troubles genius. Are starting NT Pickett already had Jolly’s spot at DE. Our other stud Raji is playing the nose this year replacing Pickett. You see we’re very deep dufus, why? Because Thomspson is always 3 moves ahead of you clowns!! LMAO!! Class dismissed…

  40. dreamer says: Jul 16, 2010 7:38 PM

    It’s a sad story. He had a lot of promise and he’s probably thrown it away. It saddens me to see so many Africans have so many issues. Good luck to you Johnny. Hopefully this isn’t the end of your NFL journey.

  41. JimmySmith says: Jul 16, 2010 8:03 PM

    Watch what happens next to get a clue on how the Packers handle these things. Mark my words, Jolly will never play a down for Green Bay again. Even if he is lucky enough to get re-instated, then the Packers will trade him. Most likely to Minnesota, they have shown a preference for ex Packers on the down side of their careers.

  42. Old_Style says: Jul 16, 2010 8:10 PM

    Though this ruling is too severe in light the suspensions that other players rec’d for worse behavior, it does the Packers a favor. This is a blow to the Packers, but they got 2 decent years out of him after the bust & now they do not need to pay him, whereas a 4-6 game suspension creates a tough situation.
    I know there are a lot of rec drug users on this site, so think about it…if you have a habit, & the money, and can do a 1 time deal so you don’t need to go out and look for drugs every few weeks, you buy large. Sounds like it was too large this time…but don’t drive around thumping bass in gangland while you got the shit in the car.
    “How’d you get busted?” jj-“noise violation.”
    At least Thompson saw this coming and addressed it through the draft this year, even though he caught hell for it.
    Either way, Jolly is an idiot, and the Packers still win the Super Bowl.

  43. flop 4 strahan says: Jul 16, 2010 8:14 PM

    Too bad JJ doesn’t reside in Minnesota…
    Roid munchers & Dopeheads get full protection of the Minnesota supreme court there. They’d have a parade for him & give him a key to the city – because he’s, you know, a victim and all. He might even get a meeting with the governor (Now is it Yosemite Sam or Jabberjaw who you just elected – I forget)
    …I wonder when was the last time ‘ol Baby Brett peed in a cup for Goodell…
    hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…
    Guess they don’t sell Wizzonators in Green Bay..
    …but they DO in Minnesotta…
    hmmmmmmmmmm…

  44. flop 4 strahan says: Jul 16, 2010 8:21 PM

    Attn Mr. Murphy…
    Why do you even ponder putting Chmura in the Packer HOF !!!!
    This is not Minnesota man !!!!!!!!!!!!
    This the 12 time world champion Packers !!!!!!!!!!

  45. jrmbadger says: Jul 16, 2010 8:30 PM

    “VikingsPrincess says:
    July 16, 2010 5:53 PM
    @Bordner
    You said, “The difference between WI and East Dakota is that we will respect the decision of the league and support this suspension – might not even let him back on the team. ”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    And if this had been Grant or Driver?
    Me thinks that it would depend upon the player involved. Favorite quote about Jolly last year? The Percy Harvin play where the 3 defenders collided: “Favre has lots of time… Jolly isn’t even a factor here.” (I paraphrased the announcer – the exact quote escapes me).

    Guess what princess?
    My favorite quote from last year was: “Why do you even ponder passing there? You take a knee and kick a 56 yard field goal. Come on man, this isn’t Detroit, ITS THE SUPERBOWL.” – I could be wrong, of course I’m just paraphrasing the announcer.

  46. jrmbadger says: Jul 16, 2010 8:35 PM

    “twizzlystick says:
    July 16, 2010 5:30 PM …..”
    Wow…. another Packer thread, another Viking troll…. big shocker.
    Interesting how twizzly shows up here right after the Twins season tanked ….
    Couldn’t possibly be another Minnesota bandwagon fan could it? No way! I’m shocked (sarcasm)
    Maybe after the 100th time you post about your made up Favre curse someone will actually buy it …. maybe …. but I wouldn’t hold your breath.

  47. Raider Pride says: Jul 16, 2010 8:35 PM

    This is all a bunch of hoopla about nothing.
    Packers Fans have the answers.
    http://www.packershome.com/ForumsPro/viewforum/f=1.html

  48. Strick says: Jul 16, 2010 9:39 PM

    Suspended for an entire season for a first offense?
    What a crock of shit!
    Rasta Williams got a four-game suspension after his THIRD.
    Yah, I know. The codeine thing. Problem is, he hasn’t been found guilty yet. Hasn’t even been to court yet.
    This stinks. Bad.

  49. twizzlystick says: Jul 16, 2010 9:45 PM

    jrmbadger says: July 16, 2010 8:30 PM
    Guess what princess?
    My favorite quote from last year was: “And Rodgers drops back to pass after choking like a dog on his overthrow to a wide open receiver. He’s holding the ball forever… he sees some pressure… he – OH MY GOD HE’S DROP KICKING THE BALL RIGHT INTO THE HANDS OF A CARDINALS DEFENDER – THE GAME IS OVER – THE CARDS ADVANCE IN THE PLAYOFFS AND RODGERS REMAINS 0 FOR HIS CAREER IN PLAYOFF GAMES!!!!”
    *********************************
    I agree jrm, that was a sweet moment.

  50. Green n' Gold says: Jul 16, 2010 10:36 PM

    twizzlystick says:
    July 16, 2010 9:45 PM
    jrmbadger says: July 16, 2010 8:30 PM
    Guess what princess?
    My favorite quote from last year was: “And Rodgers drops back to pass after choking like a dog on his overthrow to a wide open receiver. He’s holding the ball forever… he sees some pressure… he – OH MY GOD HE’S DROP KICKING THE BALL RIGHT INTO THE HANDS OF A CARDINALS DEFENDER – THE GAME IS OVER – THE CARDS ADVANCE IN THE PLAYOFFS AND RODGERS REMAINS 0 FOR HIS CAREER IN PLAYOFF GAMES!!!!”
    ***************** ****************
    I agree jrm, that was a sweet moment.
    ___________________________________
    This Isn’t Detroit!!
    Put that in your pipe Queen fan!!
    P.S. It took Manning 3 years before he won a playoff game ass wipe!!

  51. Plankshelmet says: Jul 16, 2010 10:41 PM

    merrillhodgestoupee says:
    July 16, 2010 5:34 PM
    Best things to come out of Wisconsin…
    I94, I90 Ed Gein and Jeffery Dahlmer
    Keep your drug dealers, rapist tight ends and favre apologists…
    ————————————————-
    NICELY DONE !!! Keep up the good work.

  52. twizzlystick says: Jul 16, 2010 11:26 PM

    green n gold, I know but Aaron is already in his 6th year. He’s already passed his expiration date and he still hasn’t won a playoff game.

  53. seals says: Jul 17, 2010 12:41 AM

    The big question is how will the packers deal with matthews roid issue. It will be sad when that flowing hair is in the packer shower drain. Erin will hate looking at it when he is slumped over.

  54. PackFaninPackLand says: Jul 17, 2010 2:59 AM

    Raider Pride at 6:11 PM
    “No worries for the Packers. Ted is always one step ahead of everything.
    Ted is the best GM in the NFL.
    I hope he is running the Raiders one day!”
    ————————————
    Hey Raider fan, please put down the crack pipe !
    Thompson isn’t even the best NFL GM living in Green Bay … that of course would be Ron Wolf.

  55. effs420 says: Jul 17, 2010 3:32 AM

    just waiting on bob nelson and his pretzel logic to somehow blame jews and the minnesota vikings for this…

  56. radioboy20010 says: Jul 17, 2010 4:33 AM

    Nice try, haters.
    12 NFL championships, built on the shoulders of giants like Lambeau and Lombardi.
    Someday, haters, your team will be able to sit at the adults table.
    Have a verrrry nice day!

  57. Contra says: Jul 17, 2010 4:45 AM

    JimmySmith says:
    July 16, 2010 8:03 PM
    Watch what happens next to get a clue on how the Packers handle these things. Mark my words, Jolly will never play a down for Green Bay again. Even if he is lucky enough to get re-instated, then the Packers will trade him. Most likely to Minnesota, they have shown a preference for ex Packers on the down side of their careers.
    ——
    let me correct you there…Minnesota is where ex-Packers go when they want their careers to bounce back.

  58. littlecpz says: Jul 17, 2010 6:03 AM

    in my opinion,Ted is the best GM in the NFL.
    http://www.america-jerseys.com

  59. FoF says: Jul 17, 2010 8:00 AM

    I am absolutely disgusted at what a mess the Packer organization has become under TT’s leadership, even more disgusted at the sheep in Wisconsin who still support him. From getting rid of the best player because his ego couldn’t handle it, to plunging the Packers into financial ruin, to coaches cheating the IRS, to players assaulting woman in the Dells, drug dealers, a QB who is more interested in getting his pic into the Hollywood tabloids then winning a SB.
    It’s a shame too, because Bob Harlen’s legacy is going to be ruined with his hiring of TT.

  60. twizzlystick says: Jul 17, 2010 10:52 AM

    I think Ted Thompson has 2 winning seasons and 1 playoff win in 5 years as GM of the Packers? PLEASE, let him stay forever.

  61. jrmbadger says: Jul 17, 2010 12:03 PM

    “twizzlystick says:
    July 17, 2010 10:52 AM
    I think Ted Thompson has 2 winning seasons and 1 playoff win in 5 years as GM of the Packers? PLEASE, let him stay forever. ”
    Isn’t that pretty much the record Brad Childress has? Oh yeah, “Brad” (as his players call him) has 2 winning seasons in 4 years with 1 playoff win and 2 losses.
    Twizzly – I think I might have been wrong about you – its not that you just started posting here because the Twins started tanking, but its because summer school just let out.

  62. DailyNorseman says: Jul 17, 2010 12:49 PM

    Gotta love it. . .only in Packer Nation can a four-game NFL suspension be equated to a potential 20-year federal prison sentence.
    Oh, well. . .you don’t become the most self-righteous, holier-than-thou fan base in professional sports by actually admitting that your players are capable of doing something wrong.

  63. FoF says: Jul 17, 2010 1:01 PM

    Sherman >>>>>> Thompson

  64. twizzlystick says: Jul 17, 2010 1:54 PM

    jrmbadger, the Vikes have improved by 2 games every year since Childress has been coach culminating in an NFCC game last season. We’re happy with that progress. And we’re also happy that you’re happy with a GM who gives you 2 winning seasons and 1 playoff win every 5 years. Oh and signs maybe 1 Pro Bowl free agent every 5 years.

  65. TheBaySay says: Jul 17, 2010 4:33 PM

    Viking fans – the yapping little chihuahuas of pro football fandom.

  66. onetime36 says: Jul 18, 2010 2:21 AM

    How does Johnny Jolly get the same suspension for drugs as Dontae Stallworth did for killing somebody?

  67. bluestree says: Jul 18, 2010 2:26 PM

    onetime36 says:
    July 18, 2010 2:21 AM
    How does Johnny Jolly get the same suspension for drugs as Dontae Stallworth did for killing somebody?
    =========================
    Got to have a prior violation of the substance abuse policy to get a year.

  68. Beer Cheese Soup says: Jul 18, 2010 3:42 PM

    Raider Pride says:
    No worries for the Packers. Ted is always one step ahead of everything.
    Ted is the best GM in the NFL.
    I hope he is running the Raiders one day!
    ___________________________________
    I hope so too!! And the sooner the better!

  69. Contra says: Jul 18, 2010 3:47 PM

    radioboy20010 says:
    July 17, 2010 4:33 AM
    Nice try, haters.
    12 NFL championships, built on the shoulders of giants like Lambeau and Lombardi.
    Someday, haters, your team will be able to sit at the adults table.
    Have a verrrry nice day!
    ———
    LOL – CLASSIC example of when Packer fans realize they have lost an argument and have their backs against a wall! “Crap – they’ve got us cornered from all angles with no way to get out of this mess…what do we do!?” “quick, talk about the 12 championships your grandfathers team one and flail your arms in a wild fashion so as to make them forget what the point of discussion was about.”

  70. Beer Cheese Soup says: Jul 18, 2010 5:48 PM

    Contra says:
    LOL – CLASSIC example of when Packer fans realize they have lost an argument and have their backs against a wall! “Crap – they’ve got us cornered from all angles with no way to get out of this mess…what do we do!?” “quick, talk about the 12 championships your grandfathers team one and flail your arms in a wild fashion so as to make them forget what the point of discussion was about.”
    ____________________________________
    The famous Viking fan jealousy continues.
    So? What’s your point? Hell yes, we do that. Every time. That’s because we CAN do it. There’s no point in having more championships than the rest of the league if you can’t enjoy them.. Why wouldn’t we take advantage?
    At least we’re not bragging up division titles as though they have any meaning whatsoever.
    Jolly is a turd, plain and simple. If it wasn’t for Ted’s inability to admit mistakes, we’d be rid of him long before now. Even as it is, i don’t see one Pack fan on here defending him. So go ahead, say what you will.

  71. Contra says: Jul 18, 2010 8:06 PM

    Beer Cheese Soup says:
    July 18, 2010 5:48 PM
    Contra says:
    LOL – CLASSIC example of when Packer fans realize they have lost an argument and have their backs against a wall! “Crap – they’ve got us cornered from all angles with no way to get out of this mess…what do we do!?” “quick, talk about the 12 championships your grandfathers team one and flail your arms in a wild fashion so as to make them forget what the point of discussion was about.”
    ____________________ ________________
    The famous Viking fan jealousy continues.
    So? What’s your point? Hell yes, we do that. Every time. That’s because we CAN do it. There’s no point in having more championships than the rest of the league if you can’t enjoy them.. Why wouldn’t we take advantage?
    At least we’re not bragging up division titles as though they have any meaning whatsoever.
    Jolly is a turd, plain and simple. If it wasn’t for Ted’s inability to admit mistakes, we’d be rid of him long before now. Even as it is, i don’t see one Pack fan on here defending him. So go ahead, say what you will.
    ———-
    so are ARE admitting that when the sh*t hits the fan and there is no way to save face you simply revert to the 12 championships with the notion that saying so will fix everything!? (pssst…mention the 12 championships to get out of this argument…you’re welcome!)

  72. Beer Cheese Soup says: Jul 19, 2010 4:39 AM

    Contra says:
    so are ARE admitting that when the sh*t hits the fan and there is no way to save face you simply revert to the 12 championships with the notion that saying so will fix everything!?
    _______________________________
    What wouldn’t it fix? We have 12 championships. You have none. I don’t know what argument there is that’s gonna change that, or why WE would need to save face when you are the ones that have pulled off each of the top three choke jobs in NFL history.
    Seriously. The joke is on you. You think your two NFC North titles make you an elite team. They don’t. If they meant anything at all, we would be mentioning the fact that we have twice as many. We aren’t, because they don’t.
    So please, do tell me. What argument do you have that will compensate for 12-to-none? What witty remark do you have that is going to make fans of a successful team feel a need to “save face”?

  73. RC IV says: Jul 19, 2010 10:36 AM

    Contra.
    It doesn’t do any good to to talk to the racist BCS.
    It’s like arguing with a 3 year old.
    All he is good for is TT bashing, Other than that, he is clueless.
    he doesn’t even understand the point you are making about the 12 titles argument.
    Either that , or he is willfully ignorant.
    Best to lump him in with Bob and Jimmy and not evven bother with him.

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