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NCAA turns its attention to Steelers rookie

Possibly buoyed by the success of the Reggie Bush investigation or committed to dealing once and for all with a problem that has been all too prevalent in recent years, the NCAA has begun to aggressively investigate the dynamic of agents paying players in order to secure them as clients.

We’ve heard rumors for years, and we’ve watched and waited for the NCAA (which regulates college football programs and players) and the NFLPA (which regulates contract agents) to do something about it.

The latest target?  Former Florida center Maurkice Pouncey.  Pat Forde of ESPN.com reports that the NCAA and Florida are investigating allegations that Pouncey received $100,000 from a representative of an agent after the 2009 SEC title game and prior to Florida’s January 2010 bowl game.

The ESPN.com report curiously omits the fact that Pouncey ultimately hired Joel Segal.  This doesn’t mean that Segal was directly or indirectly responsible for paying the money.  But if there’s an agent out there who paid Pouncey 100 large and ultimately didn’t get hired, there should be another Lake-versus-Bush-style lawsuit on the horizon.

Meanwhile, because Pouncey has left Florida, the NCAA has no authority over Pouncey.  Thus, it’ll be much harder for the NCAA to get to the truth if, in the end, neither Pouncey nor the agent nor the person who allegedly handed over the cash cooperate with the probe.

In this case, however, the NCAA may have an ace in the hole.  Maurkice’s twin brother, Mike, remains a Gator, and he’s regarded as one of the top offensive guards in the 2011 draft.  The NCAA can, if it so chooses, lean on the twin brothers — who apparently are very close — to get some information.

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  1. dabarber says: Jul 19, 2010 3:00 PM

    The common folk could give two craps about this stuff…really.
    I say let em juice up, get paid, take bribes, use HGH–whatever it takes to make it more entertaining for me.
    I could care less if they die at 45.

  2. jj jones says: Jul 19, 2010 3:02 PM

    If the investigation gets bigger and any kind of sanctions are going to be thrown at UF, expect Urban Meyer to re-retire due to “anxiety”.

  3. Occam says: Jul 19, 2010 3:07 PM

    Nobody puts Pouncey in the corner. Nobody.

  4. steelerhypocrite says: Jul 19, 2010 3:11 PM

    The NCAA should also look at the link between NFL QB’s that play for Pittsburgh and rape.

  5. troll_aikman8 says: Jul 19, 2010 3:11 PM

    That’s too bad. He was penciled in to be Ben’s backup bathroom security guard.

  6. parasonic says: Jul 19, 2010 3:13 PM

    @dabarber

  7. thepuretruth says: Jul 19, 2010 3:13 PM

    Maybe we should go after the REAL source of the problem…the NCAA!!

  8. afiresnake says: Jul 19, 2010 3:13 PM

    Could anybody please explain … NFL rules state the agent gets three percent of the players deal … for a 10 Mio deal, the agent gets 100 grand.
    Pouncey got drafted 18th, which the agent couldn’t know at the time he paid the bribe. I am not sure how much money will be paid in the lower end of the 1st round, but I guess not much more than 10 Mio.
    Even if the agent can tax deduce the 100 grand allegedly paid, isn’t that a bad deal for the agent?

  9. afiresnake says: Jul 19, 2010 3:13 PM

    Could anybody please explain … NFL rules state the agent gets three percent of the players deal … for a 10 Mio deal, the agent gets 300 grand.
    Pouncey got drafted 18th, which the agent couldn’t know at the time he paid the bribe. I am not sure how much money will be paid in the lower end of the 1st round, but I guess not much more than 10 Mio.
    Even if the agent can tax deduce the 100 grand allegedly paid, isn’t that a bad deal for the agent?

  10. Joshsports60 says: Jul 19, 2010 3:14 PM

    it just keeps getting better and better for the Steelers this offseason, doesn’t it?

  11. nflisking says: Jul 19, 2010 3:15 PM

    @dabarber
    Wow. You’ve just reaffirmed the notion of the dumbing down of our society.
    There are intelligent people posting to this site – please just go away and stay away! Go back to your rusted out trailer and watch reruns of Scooby Doo.

  12. OJ SIMPSON says: Jul 19, 2010 3:16 PM

    DABARBER—
    I agree with you 100%.

  13. Hap says: Jul 19, 2010 3:22 PM

    This is more along the lines of what’s happening TO UNC, not what’s happening because of UNC, as Florio insinuated at first.

  14. jamaltimore says: Jul 19, 2010 3:23 PM

    Just lookin to bring in some more strong character guys to help out the Rapist! I bet a florida guy who is on the take has access to all the great college parties in GA and throughout the rest of SEC country! Somewhere Benster the Molestor was pulling his pants down celebrating this draft class!
    When is someone goin to Unleash hell on Tomlin for his support and recruiting of criminals instead of giving him a 3 year extenstion!

  15. Blast Furnace says: Jul 19, 2010 3:30 PM

    Lovely thoughts, dabarber. Here’s hoping that “me first” attitude comes with a side of arsenic.

  16. SethGecko says: Jul 19, 2010 3:37 PM

    dabarber is right, no one really cares, and when they do, is only when sanctions affect a rival of their favourite team. Even if the players are getting paid they still have to play the game. I agree dabarber, let them juice, get paid, use HGH, and whatever else. They are all going to anyways, and you’re simply naive if you think otherwise.

  17. theroc5156 says: Jul 19, 2010 3:39 PM

    @Occam: Nobody puts Pouncey in the corner. Nobody.
    I just spit up my drink laughing.

  18. hotchick says: Jul 19, 2010 3:45 PM

    I dont think the common folk does not care if they all die at age 45. Heck we get all worked up when a baseball owner dies or a college basketball coach or a NFL head coach who has not worked in years…. Plus the NFL can be exciting without everyone juiced.
    Add to it the fact that we care when certain teams “win all the time” because they buy the best players. So if college can at least make it difficult for this to happen, this common folk perfers that.
    As for the bad deal for the agent. If he wouldn’t get the player without the $100K, then its a good deal because he got the player. The more players you have, the better chance you have of having a big money deal. Having success with the players in your portfolio, the more players you can get later. Can’t have success if you dont have players. So paying 100K to land this guy could land to other players later. Thus more deals. And there is also the possibility that the $100K gets paid back to some degree. Either in cash or a willingness to recruit other players to the agents firm.
    Or
    Buy 1 lottery ticket have one chance to win Millions. Buy 10 lottery tickets a greater chance of winning.

  19. Steve W. says: Jul 19, 2010 3:46 PM

    @afiresnake, it’s not uncommon for agents to advance money to players before they get drafted, or after they’re drafted but not yet signed to a contract. It’s just that it’s not supposed to be until after their college playing career is over. As for the money itself, as I said, it tends to be an advance which is repaid when the money starts rolling in. The repayment of advances is separate from and unaffected by the agent’s cut.

  20. Kaz says: Jul 19, 2010 3:50 PM

    Fits in perfectly with the character of the Organization.

  21. ricebowl says: Jul 19, 2010 3:54 PM

    @dabarber -
    if you’re gonna paraphrase daniel tosh lines, at least give him some props

  22. SATAN567 says: Jul 19, 2010 4:01 PM

    More trash on the Steelers roster. They are just simply drawn to trash.

  23. AllThat says: Jul 19, 2010 4:07 PM

    hey Funi & Bob Evans……cmon, lets here you talk about the classy org you have….

  24. Krow says: Jul 19, 2010 4:11 PM

    Steelers can’t catch a break.

  25. steely devil hab says: Jul 19, 2010 4:18 PM

    # SATAN567 says: July 19, 2010 4:01 PM
    More trash on the Steelers roster. They are just simply drawn to trash.
    —————————-
    Yes – trash and Superbowls. I ain’t in it for the role models…

  26. RhinoSteel56 says: Jul 19, 2010 4:23 PM

    MORON’S— This has nothing to do with the Steelers if you think about it. (I know that is asking alot) Its with the NCAA and the University of Florida. This happened before he was a steeler and has no affect on anything in his professional career. You can Kiss all 6 of our rings.

  27. cover2blitz0 says: Jul 19, 2010 4:30 PM

    not really a surprise to me to hear this… both of the pounceys played here in polk county at lakeland high school and its looked at as a major high school power house and churns out tons of college players and its been suspected for years the coach,etc.. does whatever it takes to secure top players so a player taking a payment falls along the same lines… im sure these guys are even getting paid or getting major perks in high school as well

  28. Bdrunk says: Jul 19, 2010 4:34 PM

    steelerhypocrite says:
    July 19, 2010 3:11 PM
    “The NCAA should also look at the link between NFL QB’s that play for Pittsburgh and rape.”
    ———————-
    Your attempt at humor is not lost on me (LOLRAPE) but why would the NCAA care?
    AllThat says:
    July 19, 2010 4:07 PM
    “hey Funi & Bob Evans……cmon, lets here you talk about the classy org you have….”
    ———————-
    How can you possibly ‘here’ anything with the constant loud sucking sound your mouth (and personality) makes?

  29. WVUColumbus says: Jul 19, 2010 4:41 PM

    Anytime posts are directed at $$ analysis/breakdowns, etc., you unfortunately see a “dumbing down” of the posters on blogs, and profootball.com is not immune to this very annoying fact.
    One of two facts is crystal clear from such posters:
    1. They aren’t quite qualified to speak of such monetary analysis because it would require abstract analytical thinking…..ya know, higher level brain processes than those from lower levels of the cerebral cortex, where emotion and criticism reside.
    2. They are extremely jealous and bitter of the prolonged success of the greatest franchise in professional sports……….a franchise where 9-7 is regarded an epic failure, not only by its own fanbase, but by its fiercest rivals.

  30. Ravens Fan says: Jul 19, 2010 4:49 PM

    Well Squeeler Nation, another black eye. Your team is an embarassment to the NFL. What a bunch of wife beating, rapists, money grubbing a*sholes your team is. Glad we won’t see you in the playoffs this year, SCUMBAGS.

  31. dabarber says: Jul 19, 2010 4:51 PM

    Hey Rube, I had to look up whoever the hell Daniel Tosh is but that hack act has been going on since the 80′s and all the big steroid stories were breaking.
    Smarten up.
    ___________________________________
    ricebowl says:
    July 19, 2010 3:54 PM
    @dabarber -
    if you’re gonna paraphrase daniel tosh lines, at least give him some props

  32. funi says: Jul 19, 2010 4:56 PM

    Nothing to do with Steelers..All to do with Florida! Wait till NCAA investigates Tebow!

  33. Duff Man says: Jul 19, 2010 5:09 PM

    @nflisking
    well played

  34. Bdrunk says: Jul 19, 2010 5:14 PM

    Ravens Fan says:
    July 19, 2010 4:49 PM
    ” Glad we won’t see you in the playoffs this year, SCUMBAGS.”
    —————————-
    This one’s too easy. Just want to point it out though if anyone else wants to tee off on it.

  35. rollli1967 says: Jul 19, 2010 6:22 PM

    RhinoSteel56 says:
    July 19, 2010 4:23 PM
    MORON’S— This has nothing to do with the Steelers if you think about it. (I know that is asking alot) Its with the NCAA and the University of Florida. This happened before he was a steeler and has no affect on anything in his professional career. You can Kiss all 6 of our rings.
    ————————————————-
    @RhinoSteel56,
    You are absolutely correct(I hate to admit;), and I am saying this as a Browns fan. This problem is with the NCAA and the University of Florida. I’m sure the Steelers were not aware of this issue when they drafted Pouncey and will not affect his play with the Steelers. People should not get so worked up about it.

  36. tatum32 says: Jul 19, 2010 6:47 PM

    NCAA may be over playing its hand with this…players should start going to attorneys and counter suing the NCAA. This has nothing to do with their pro life, and the investigations shouldve happened WHEN THE PLAYER currently played. You have a few dozen libel suits and the NCAA will cut this NONSENSE out. – when guys havent even started their pro careers, this punishes them. It also forces even more players to leave early. What is the NCAA doing???????
    RhinoSteel56 , i’ll kiss five of your rings, that Seattle Seahawks SB victory was a fraud.

  37. BAtkins says: Jul 19, 2010 7:06 PM

    RhinoSteel56 says:
    July 19, 2010 4:23 PM
    MORON’S— This has nothing to do with the Steelers if you think about it. (I know that is asking alot) Its with the NCAA and the University of Florida. This happened before he was a steeler and has no affect on anything in his professional career. You can Kiss all 6 of our rings.
    ——————-
    I love it when flat-headed fans try to take credit for a teams wins / titles. Yeah, moron, so you bought an XXXL bell bottomed jersey to stretch over your fat ass, and that actually contributed to the Squealers titles.
    You definitely scream moron. Dufus!

  38. WVUColumbus says: Jul 19, 2010 7:24 PM

    tatum32…..the game against Seattle was admittedly a “pig of a game” (to paraphrase Alexi Lalas re: Netherlands/Spain). However, the Steelers were the better team that day. Seattle had an awful performance.
    1. The offensive pass interference call in endzone was called by myself and at least 3-5 other people directly around me and we were watching in 2nd level of that endzone….He CLEARLY pushed off.
    2. Ben’s TD….the tip of the football CLEARLY MET the start of the goalline (all that you need)
    3. Hasselbeck….there was a penalty on him that was bogus but I can’t remember it….that was the one call against Seattle…..
    The 2005 Steelers will go down as the first 6 seed to advance and win the Super Bowl, and they did it the hard way beating the #3, #1 and #2 seeds in AFC and #1 seed in NFC.
    ALL of the holdings were just that. The reason for the public outcry is that they came during critical plays and the general public wants a close Super Bowl…..Just think, the Colts had no answers for a dominant blitzing Steelers scheme and Peyton was sacked relentlessly and forced to throw his offensive line under the bus 3 wks earlier.

  39. Burning River says: Jul 19, 2010 7:47 PM

    @rollli1967…
    I agree 100%. I love to beat up on the Steelers fans every chance I get. But this one is undeserved, IMHO.
    This isn’t a Pittsburgh issue. But they had better keep him under watch, if he leans toward cheating.
    Now…if he was drafted by the RATBIRDS, that’s another thing entirely.
    Baltimore deserves NO respect. NONE.
    GO BROWNS!

  40. rollli1967 says: Jul 19, 2010 8:07 PM

    @burning river,
    I agree with you about the Ratbirds and their fans. I especially can’t stand that trolling retard ravenmuscle (aka penismuscle). Check out what I said to him in the Eric Mangini: It’s Jake Delhomme’s job to lose thread.
    GO BROWNS

  41. sharkattack says: Jul 19, 2010 8:32 PM

    If the Jets are the off-season champions, the Steelers would be like 1-15.

  42. MSWRavens says: Jul 19, 2010 8:33 PM

    I wouldn’t beat up the Steelers about it…although it did make me smile…but it just goes to show – one more time – that the Steelers are no different than any other organization in the NFL. They all come across their bad apples…
    So for all the douchebag Steeler fans who like to think that their organization is better than the rest and abides a higher standard (remember all that talk when Ben was raping in Georgia???)…and even worse, those who like to vocalize this rididuclous belief…shove it up your ass, AGAIN!!!

  43. Jamson64 says: Jul 19, 2010 9:18 PM

    MSW Ravens.
    You must be real proud of yourself calling someone a rapist who has not even been charged. What is your real name and address- since you are so brave.
    You are a puke.

  44. jm91rs says: Jul 20, 2010 9:34 AM

    Someone stated above that the agent gets 3% of the contract. Not sure what “MIO” is as that person stated, but last year’s #18 pick got 9.7 mil guaranteed on a 18.3 mil deal. Even if he only gets the guaranteed money, that’s $291k (not 100k as stated). Add in the fact that this year’s salary will be slightly higher, and he has a twin brother that would be likely to sign with the same agent next year, it seems like a pretty decent business decision to “secretly” give him or his family $100k (whether it is a loan or not).
    Now the real question is what does this do to the Sugar Bowl record? Do the Bearcats win by forfeit?

  45. Bdrunk says: Jul 20, 2010 9:52 AM

    MSWRavens says:
    July 19, 2010 8:33 PM
    “So for all the douchebag Steeler fans who like to think that their organization is better than the rest and abides a higher standard (remember all that talk when Ben was raping in Georgia???)…and even worse, those who like to vocalize this rididuclous belief…shove it up your ass, AGAIN!!!”
    ————————
    The Steelers are like the Hebrew National brand hot dogs of the NFL, they answer to a higher power and therefore ARE held to a higher standard.
    OMG J/K! But seriously, Ben wasn’t raping that night in GA, he was RAPPING. It’s true, his rap band 2 Live Brew was putting on a show when the sorority girl threw her panties on to the stage and got peeved when she didn’t get them back with an autograph. He was too busy spittin’ some serious rhymes for his hit single “Need mo’ Pu**y”. That or he used them to make iced tea.

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