Comments on: NFL should suspend players who got paid in college

By: funi

funi — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:58:51 +0000

Finally someone agrees with me! Not only should the players be suspended the coach should not be allowed to coach anywhere else or be on tv! 99% of coaches knows what is going on, that is why they leave to go elsewhere!

By: DayAllOnJuice

DayAllOnJuice — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:28:34 +0000

DasBoot504 says:
July 21, 2010 11:26 AM
Florio is a troll……
+++++++++++++
No truer words have ever been written here.
Florio, NBC should suspend you for reporting Terry Bradshaw was dead…..you know, before you were employed by them.

By: rbais2

rbais2 — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:52:19 +0000

Ban the boosters, oh wait … colleges need alumni ca$h!!!!

By: covercorner7

covercorner7 — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:31:03 +0000

The NFL cannot punish players for acts committed prior them having any association with the NFL. That would be ILLEGAL!

By: favrecansuckit

favrecansuckit — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:56:48 +0000

For a lawyer to write this is embarassing…The NCAA is a bunch of incompetent fools to begin with, they’re extremely limited in their investigations, especially once a player is out of school, they have no way to force them to cooperate or tell the truth for that matter. It’s not as though these players are put on trial either, sanctions are decided purely on decisions made by the NCAA. Why would the NFL suspend players for anything they did BEFORE THEY WERE EMPLOYED BY THE NFL anyway, much less after the pointless finding in a half-ass investigation?? The NCAA has zero leverage once a player is out of school. The NFL is not stupid enough to even consider punishing it’s players for allegedly breaking NCAA regulations.

By: Annuvin

Annuvin — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:01:27 +0000

This is a stupid idea. What’s next? Suspending and/or firing any employee in the workforce if you can prove he or she cheated in school?
To be quite honest, I really don’t get what can be construed as morally wrong about amateur athletes being paid to play in the NCAA to begin with. Ever since pro athletes were allowed to play on the U.S. Olympic basketball team the definition of what constitutes an “amateur athlete” has been hazy at best.

By: Duan

Duan — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:50:10 +0000

@ ShootahCowboy – You make an interesting argument.
However, you totally ignored my post regarding, the perks academic scholar students receive from potential future employers.
I don’t see how you can ignore that. I don’t know how much you know about Catepillar, but let me give you a little story. One of my classmates started having conversations with them after our freshman year @ Jackson State. Sophmore year she was flown to Chicago to do a summer internship in one of their Peoria, Il locations, they gave her $2,000 a month , plus an apartment, along with meal allowance and rental car. Upon her return from the summer internship, they were basically paying her to complete her degree, receiving a monthly stipend, book allowance, then paying for her tuition. While receiving all that from Catepillar, she was still her full academic scholarship from Jackson State!?
Student athlete’s, especially those playing football in big money conferences like the SEC, Big 10 and ACC, are getting screwed royally!
You need to look at it from another angle shootah

By: Jon Evans

Jon Evans — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:29:22 +0000

Oh and next we can have the NFL putting fines on people who bought/played some bootleg non-liscensed football game over Madden (etc)
Stop attempting to create this Nazi regime that can do everything simply because you are upset people make more money than you.

By: DasBoot504

DasBoot504 — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:26:04 +0000

Florio is a troll……a pretty stupid one at that.

By: rbais2

rbais2 — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:06:04 +0000

Students earning cash hurts NO ONE!!! If people saw their actual courses, degrees, and other things that lead to low graduation rates, then “Ka$h for Kid$” is okay!!!!!
Jesus!!! Do drama school scholarships prevent students to accept cash as extras or in movie roles on set??
I think not and I am likely 100000000000000000% correct on this subject matter.
Also, if they wanted the agent-student transgressions to stop, the
NFLPA could suspend the agent’s certification. To stop the boosters from paying, the NCAA should threaten schools for more severe punishment by getting them to ban the boosters from having alumni-university relations.

By: Steeler fans are tools

Steeler fans are tools — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:52:06 +0000

I would take $$, no joke. Like people said, go after the agents, they know they are in the wrong speaking to amateurs, hit them in the wallet

By: rbais2

rbais2 — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:45:37 +0000

Obviously, you never come from an athlete’s perspective when it is necessary. The NCAA schools just find ways to get athletes admitted when the majority of them are not qualified to attend as students. The students are TOLD to take the EASIEST and MINIMAL AMOUNT of courses to stay eligible to play.
These courses likely do not line up to a particular college degree and these likely financially and academically incapable students get screwed in the education system and are unable to graduate. So if the multi-billion dollar TV contract recipients (also known as prestigious institutions) can screw kids over by getting them not get the thing that gets them money (a college degree), then let the kids take cash that they likely will not get at age 50 (hello, 75% of retired players go broke or get divorced after 2 years of not playing). Students taking cash does NOT hurt their or opposing colleges that make MORE than enough.

By: BigTony300

BigTony300 — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:44:53 +0000

@ Shootah Cowboy
They should get an ALLOWANCE. Some of those kids don’t come from families with money. If your a full time student athlete there is no time to hold down a job. You have to have some money to live man. These colleges make MILLIONS at their expense, some of that money should go to the players so that they don’t feel the need to take handouts.

By: We need linemen

We need linemen — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:28:36 +0000

The NCAA has no leverage. It is amazing that the current monopoly is allowed to continue. It is a anti-competitive industry that only survives because of the collusion of the NFL.
College football is multi-million dollar industry that effectively refuses to pay the majority of it’s workforce. If people want to play profootball the only real way to get their is to play college football, there is no true alternative because both NCAA and the NFL have made it that way.
If the NCAA want to promote amateur values they can start by elimating every paid position in their own organisation. Everyone would have to work as volunteer or be “student-adminstrators” who receive a scholarship in return. Everyone involved in college football programs, including the coaches, should be amateurs as well. Let’s see how long Nick Saban enjoys molding young minds when he has to do it for free.
If the NCAA gets to aggressive with the NFL it could find itself on the wrong end of NFL minor league. How many high-school players would choose a scholarship over a chance to sign a professional contract. Anyone actually interested in getting an education could use his salary to pay for a college courses, whilst the many that currently just go through the motions of being a “student-athlete” would not have to cheapen themselves with the pretence. That would then free up college places and resources for people who actually want to study.

By: prmpft

prmpft — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:20:02 +0000

…oh great idea – then to play w/ the 6 guys left we’d have to suit up the first 47 fans in the gate…

By: ShootahCowboy

ShootahCowboy — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:14:53 +0000

@Duan
Sooooooo…. He gets free tuition, room, board, OJT for his chosen profession, free publicity for the Heisman, free Pro work-out days scheduled, and free advertisement for the draft.
And he should get paid?
Give me a break.
If players started paying back all of the expenses they incurred, that the University took care of, after they graduate, I may be more open to the thought of paying players. As I haven’t heard an instance of that happening yet, they should be thankful for the opportunity that they got.
Besides, nobody forced them to go to college did they? There was no gun put to their head. They know the rules going in….

By: ohandsixteenforever

ohandsixteenforever — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:11:05 +0000

The biggest problem with this is the NFL has no power to investigate college players. They can only wait on the NCAA to lay down punishment on players and only then if those players are in the NFL could they punish them. The NCAA however is wildly inconsistent in catching it’s players cheating much less punishing them. So whether or not the idea has merit, the implementation of it would certainly cause problems.

By: ShootahCowboy

ShootahCowboy — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:07:16 +0000

While I agree with agents being “frozen” out from the players, there also needs to be some personal accountability from the players. Especially at the bigger schools like Alabama and USC, these athletes are told on a regular basis about rules infractions.
Don’t start that garbage about paying the college players. They get enough perks with free tuition, room, board, medical, and other perks. If these players start paying back what they get for free, then we can talk about it…

By: BigTony300

BigTony300 — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:58:06 +0000

NFL should stay out of it. Those kids should be compensated by the colleges. They put their bodies on the line and the colleges they play for make millions because of them. What is wrong with giving them an allowance? Some kind of compensation so that they don’t have to take money and gifts from boosters. The problem is the NCAA not the NFL. NCAA is GREEDY!!!

By: BigTony300

BigTony300 — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:57:38 +0000

By: nevegreg

nevegreg — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:55:58 +0000

As a former college athlete, if offered a car, rent money, something good for the family, um, I’ll stand in line.

By: wope

wope — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:55:53 +0000

Wow this guy gets worse everyday. I guess you think it would be ok for your current employer to discipline you for something you did at your previous job, too? Rofl.

By: dvdman

dvdman — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:49:16 +0000

Maybe we should suspend writers for writing articles that make no sense. What Bush or ANY other college player did in college should have NOTHING to do with his pro career in any sport.
End of story.

By: sailfree

sailfree — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:44:10 +0000

Please tell me this is a trick question and just a joke!!!

By: Majik Bullet

Majik Bullet — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:43:26 +0000

BoulerEagle says: July 21, 2010 8:37 AM
How about suspending the agents
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Read the 2nd paragraph of the article, genius.

By: LT2_3

LT2_3 — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:42:46 +0000

So how would that work in the Bush situation: where He didn’t get anything, but his PARENTS got to live somewhere nice for free? I think punishing an NFL player in his early 20′s for the actions of his relatives is a bizarre idea.
You should also make the distinction between contract agents that are regulated by the NFLPA and investment advisors that are not – as in the Bush case as well.

By: Duan

Duan — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:36:50 +0000

@ burntorangehorn – I dig this comment, “No scouts at games, no coordination for the combine, a ban on pro days at schools, etc. The NCAA and NFL would both survive, but the NCAA really does have some teeth.”
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First, I don’t want you to get mad, but I see where your going with this. Considering the Dez Bryant, Reggie Bush and the current Alabma incident – that makes perfect sense.
But here is the one but, it wouldn’t be fair to the athlete’s.
Even though, it’s athletics, the NFL offers careers and jobs, therefor they dish out paychecks just like Nissan, Kraft foods, Johnson & Johnson pharmaceuticals, Darden Restaurants, Shell Oil, BP, Google, Microsoft, and Dell. The companies I named, pay students to complete their degree’s in certain areas, they conduct job fairs on college campuses, they interview students at job fairs and college career centers. They give free lunches, trips, pens, pencils, notepads, bookbags. They offer paid summer internships, with free housing and meal allowances, to top academic scholars! Just to get a person with a high GPA!
People always scream about how college athlete’s get over, but no one ever paints the picture I just gave you guys.
It’s not fair to student athlete’s to shut them down from future potential employers! Because their fellow classmates, have way more leeway.
To retain top talent, you literally have company’s paying students in college, and paying for their fee’s and housing! But you have people riding college athlete’s for reciving free meals or driving loaner cars!!!!!!????
It’s crazy! It is pure-d-crazy and I have never seen anybody point out the argument I just made!

By: daddy_lover

daddy_lover — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:28:53 +0000

You’re an attorney and you wrote that opinion???

By: Fed up

Fed up — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:28:31 +0000

Florio? You are just another anti-union mamby pamby that works for the CORPORATE OWNED NBC.
YOU rigtht-wing jocks make me sick.
Mike Florio? YOU SUCK!!!!!

By: Brad Miller

Brad Miller — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:21:30 +0000

@brusta2002:
Love the Baseketball reference
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@Florio:
Let by-gones be by-gones. The past is the past and they are hear to entertain us and take our teams to the Championship. What broke college player, or anyone in college for that example, wouldn’t take boat loads of money if it was offered to them?