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Mortensen: Patriots know Tom Brady is unhappy

A consensus has formed Tom Brady is highly unlikely to skip even a minute of training camp because of unhappiness with his contract.

Multiple outlets, however, also seem to agree that Brady is unhappy with his deal.

“I think on principle, Brady is disappointed that they haven’t stepped
up and done the right thing. We’ll see if something gets done,” Chris Mortensen said on NFL Live Friday, as transcribed by Mike Reiss.  “I know from speaking to enough people that he’s unhappy and the
Patriots know he’s not all that happy.  Ultimately,
he’ll show up and play, but I do believe he expects them to show up and
do the right thing at some point.”

And what’s the right thing?

“The right thing, to me, would put him in the $20 million per year range, which I think Peyton Manning is going to eventually get.”

Gulp.  The Patriots have always espoused a financially disciplined approach that tries not to put anyone above the team.  But we suspect the slow movement on Brady’s contract has less to do with principle, and more to do with the normal process of a negotiation this large.

This one is just playing out in public more than Manning’s, and certainly more than the Patriots would like.

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  1. jjcruiser says: Jul 23, 2010 8:44 PM

    It’s NOT playing out in public. The media is making a deal of it. Brady’s said nothing. Brady’s agent said nothing. The Patriots said nothing. That’s not “playing out in public” it’s just more interesting to talk about than whether Logan Mankins is going to show up or not, where in fact in that case it has played out in public because he made public statements.
    Btw in the original post there’s a typo: I think you mean “Patriots know Tom Brady is UNhappy.”

  2. dachshund says: Jul 23, 2010 8:47 PM

    If Brady were to hold out what kind of leader would he be? He has consistently said they are overpaid for what their job entails.

  3. Bob Nelson says: Jul 23, 2010 8:50 PM

    Brad Childress always likes to “outsmart” Bill Belichick. Let the vikings offer Brady some money to play next year in Minnesota after Brett Favre’s contract is over.
    Can you imagine the Vikings coming up with $50 million dollars to get it done?
    No, there is just no way the vikings could afford it.
    It is situations like this that clearly distinguish the have’s and the have not’s.

  4. Belichick for President says: Jul 23, 2010 8:53 PM

    I heard Peyton Manning is HIGHLY upset with the Colts management for not getting a new contract. Peyton might not show up for camp!

  5. csloan99 says: Jul 23, 2010 8:54 PM

    Brady reunites with Josh McDaniels and the Broncos in 2011!!!! Best. News. EVER.

  6. Canyonero says: Jul 23, 2010 8:58 PM

    Anyone who thinks Pats won’t take care of Brady is insane. Of course they will. They broke the bank for Drew Bledsoe back in the day, they’ll pay the guy who brought home 3 Lombardis!
    There’s a lot of uncertainty in the market right now, is all.

  7. BDiddy says: Jul 23, 2010 8:58 PM

    @dachsund, what a ridiculous statement. Being a leader does not mean playing for well below market value. Brady has certainly earned the right to a long term contract with a raise. Isn’t it more appropriate to question the leadership of Bob Kraft and the front office for not rewarding their best player with the contract he has earned? What kind of message does that send to the team?

  8. Ravenmaniac says: Jul 23, 2010 9:10 PM

    After the Ravens stomped him and the pats in the playoffs at home….Brady is too embarrassed to show up for camp….

  9. funi says: Jul 23, 2010 9:12 PM

    Brady has an injured knee and a Super Bowl loser.. enough said.

  10. BigAlHeBDMan says: Jul 23, 2010 9:17 PM

    Tom Brady just wants to make as much $$ as his super model wife. He may actually be the only superstar QB in the history of the NFL who makes less then his wife.

  11. august says: Jul 23, 2010 9:22 PM

    Maybe Brady should try teabagging a female trainer like Peyton Manning did

  12. IStateYourName says: Jul 23, 2010 9:23 PM

    Does he know he works for the Patriots? What, he thought they wouldn’t do that to him when he got old and injured? Business is business.

  13. BonnieD says: Jul 23, 2010 9:24 PM

    Brady is not as good as Manning. I don’t care how many Super Bowls his cheating coach won for him. Imagine what Manning could do if he had always known what the defense was going to do? Pats haven’t done much since they had to quit cheating, have they? Now they actually have competition in their own division too and it won’t be such a cake walk every year into the playoffs.

  14. Jeremy says: Jul 23, 2010 9:24 PM

    If memory serves, Brady took a bit of a hometown discount on his last contract, taking less so the Patriots could afford to pay other players.
    I don’t think it’s fair to ask him to do that again. I cant’ stand the guy, but he deserves to get paid. He’s one of the best.

  15. rjgreen3 says: Jul 23, 2010 9:26 PM

    @
    Canyonero says:
    July 23, 2010 8:58 PM
    Anyone who thinks Pats won’t take care of Brady is insane. Of course they will. They broke the bank for Drew Bledsoe back in the day, they’ll pay the guy who brought home 3 Lombardis!
    There’s a lot of uncertainty in the market right now, is all
    This goes for Manning also!

  16. Belichick Is God says: Jul 23, 2010 9:26 PM

    Peyton Manning played out his contract in 2004 and was slapped with a franchise tag, so it was nearly two years before they “took care of him” and I don’t remember any criticism.
    no news, so make up shit. That seems to pass for NFL sportwritibg these days

  17. JimmySmith says: Jul 23, 2010 9:30 PM

    Maybe Brady is worth $20 mil if Matt Walsh returns to help him achieve his former glory but based on his last couple of years with an even playing field, no way.

  18. onlymyopinionmatters says: Jul 23, 2010 9:39 PM

    Greedy Bobby Kraft is NOT going to give Brady anything close to Peyton Manning money.
    He is overrated. Kraft knows Brady put up numbers and got Super Bowl wins due to being the beneficiary of cheating. He also knows Brady has not proved his gimp knee is fully recovered.
    What has Brady done since spygate?
    How many Super Bowl wins and playoff wins?
    How did Brady look last season when the Ravens used him as a tackling dummy?
    Sorry bandwagoners, your tainted dynasty is done.

  19. downwithdansnyder says: Jul 23, 2010 9:43 PM

    IF anyone deserves to get paid it’s Brady. Is it crazy money? Yeh, but he’s earned it and been a model citizen(and with a couple models).
    AND wasn’t PFT just suggesting he could hold out and now that he will not? So either way you’ll be right? Must be nice.

  20. Great Falconi says: Jul 23, 2010 9:45 PM

    Tom turns 33 on August 3. How much money should the Pats be willing to pay him at this point? Hell, you’ve got the possibility of a lockout looming, so why commit to anything right now? If Brady wants to sit, let him sit. It’s not like any fans outside of New England want to see that team be any good, right? Make us happy. Don’t pay him.

  21. dreamer says: Jul 23, 2010 9:51 PM

    I’ve heard Brett Favre is HIGHLY upset with the media in that they don’t talk about him 85-90% of the time. Because of this he might not show up until the last week of training camp.

  22. Meat Tuperello says: Jul 23, 2010 9:52 PM

    Quite simply, Brady doesn’t deserve Manning money but no other qb in the league does either.
    The Pats without Brady still a playoff quality team.
    The Colts without Manning, might win 3 games if the ball bounces the right way and that might even be a stretch.

  23. ampats says: Jul 23, 2010 9:53 PM

    Ravensmaniac,
    Yes we all know you popped your cherry and the Ravens finally have beaten the Patriots in the first time since Modell carpetbagged his sorry ass team to baltimore.
    Beat the Jests week#1 and then talk !

  24. Meni69 says: Jul 23, 2010 9:56 PM

    What has Brady done since spygate?
    What has Brady done since spygate?
    What has Brady done since spygate?
    What has Brady done since spygate?
    18-1 moron

  25. DJSlyBri says: Jul 23, 2010 10:03 PM

    Robert Kraft is a right-wing nut who is going to sooner or later blame Obama because they can’t sign Brady. That’s what all right-wing Republicans do. Blame everything on the black President.

  26. Nickelman22 says: Jul 23, 2010 10:19 PM

    Brady is not as good as Peyton, he has more superbowls but isn’t as good. Period. Do we consider Trent Dilfer to be better than Dan Marino just because Dilfer won a superbowl? Of course not. Peyton is better and should be paid as though he better. Not only that, but this is a league of “what have you done for me lately”. Peyton hasn’t been hurt and has had better results in recent years. This coming from a Packers fan by the way.

  27. TexasBubba says: Jul 23, 2010 10:19 PM

    Brady’s homelife is killing him, while changing diapers he tells wife “Don’t you know that I stand tall in the pocket.”

  28. 4ever19 says: Jul 23, 2010 10:21 PM

    No one should get $20M. Not Tommy Boy; not Peyton (this coming from a 45-year Colts fan). 1 – they are not worth it. 2 – Ties up too much of a team’s salary cap in one player. Let them scrape by on $12M-$15M.

  29. John M. says: Jul 23, 2010 10:26 PM

    Although I’d wait till this year plays out…but I think Brady is on the downturn of his career. The once favored offense that surrounded him is aging..and even failing.
    $20M a year, is a joke to even consider. Brady just better home the team remains stable enough for him to warrant an extension.
    I think Brady has been a good QB with great players around him, but I wait (yes, more waiting) to see how he fairs under a different coach and a different system.

  30. 8man says: Jul 23, 2010 10:34 PM

    Ravenmaniac says:
    July 23, 2010 9:10 PM
    After the Ravens stomped him and the pats in the playoffs at home….Brady is too embarrassed to show up for camp….
    —————————————-
    Dude, I live here. The Patriots had an off day and the Ravens a great one. If that win had been one on the road to a Super Bowl victory it would have been significant. It wasn’t and it ain’t.
    The blackbirds won a Wildcard game. Four teams do it every year.
    And in reality, it doesn’t matter what you do against the Patriots if you can’t beat the Colts.
    See you in October.

  31. LostSok says: Jul 23, 2010 10:40 PM

    Shouldn’t they give the raise to the guy who videos other teams signals? THAT dude is clearly the team MVP.

  32. prophet of the light says: Jul 23, 2010 10:45 PM

    Did everyone just forget that the franchise tag exists?

  33. prophet of the light says: Jul 23, 2010 10:47 PM

    Oddly enough, Brady’s “downside of his career” entailed the second best year of his career.

  34. PFTiswhatitis says: Jul 23, 2010 10:55 PM

    “Ravenmaniac says:
    July 23, 2010 9:10 PM
    After the Ravens stomped him and the pats in the playoffs at home….Brady is too embarrassed to show up for camp….”
    you mean the perennial one and done Ravens? Come talk to us when they have actually done something significant for a few years or even when they have stop whining for a few weeks….that is WHINING as in WHINE WHINE WHINE.

  35. Brewster says: Jul 23, 2010 11:04 PM

    @4ever19 says: July 23, 2010 10:21 PM
    No one should get $20M. Not Tommy Boy; not Peyton (this coming from a 45-year Colts fan). 1 – they are not worth it.
    @John M. says: July 23, 2010 10:26 PM
    $20M a year, is a joke to even consider.
    _________________
    You’re both correct, but until the morons who frequent this site stop purchasing season or game tickets, NFL apparel and anything that contributes to the bottom line of NFL teams and star players those numbers are just going to keep escalating.
    If you think pro sports players are not worth the monies they’re paid stop supporting them, or stop whining, your choice.

  36. dachshund says: Jul 23, 2010 11:06 PM

    @BDiddy
    So saying they are overpaid and THEN holding out sends the right message to all the other players that want “market value”? What is “market value”? Example: Just because da Raiders overpay people consistently and raise the “market value” does that make everyone else worth it? Holding out does nothing more than send the signal that it is OK to hold out anytime you want a raise.
    Go to your boss and say “I am not showing up to work until I get a raise because the guy down the street is making “market value” and I am not” and see what happens. Common sense is your friend, use it.

  37. SeriousRadio says: Jul 23, 2010 11:35 PM

    Brady is just not worth crippling the future of the Patriots. I doubt any team will pay Brady that kind of money. He is an adequate QB, but no where near the QB he was a prior to his injury. The Patriots mistake was in letting Cassell go. At least they had leverage with an experienced backup.

  38. davidc45629 says: Jul 23, 2010 11:44 PM

    I just blame Bush for all my problems. I doesn’t solve anything but I feel better about my failings.

  39. BCGreg says: Jul 24, 2010 12:31 AM

    @ John M
    Why do you want to see what he does under a different coach and a different system?
    Manning has been in the same system for 12 years. His current coach is a Dungy disciple. Plus, Belichick isn’t going anywhere.
    How come no one talks of Manning this way? Manning is also older than Brady. I wanna see what MANNING will do in a new system.
    What have you done for me lately? Manning is 2-3 in his last 3 postseasons. Brady is 4-3 in his last 3 postseasons. Each has a SB appearance. Brady broke Mannings TD record.
    Brady has played with great players? Other than Moss, who has Brady played with that’s going to the HOF? Ben Watson?
    Manning had Harrison and Wayne for the majority of his career. Both will be in the HOF. He’s had Edgerrin James in the backfield, a top RB in the league when with Indy. Brady has thrown to the likes of Reche Caldwell, Jabar Gaffney, David Patten, Troy Brown (great player, but not HOF bound), Julien Edelman, Doug Gabriel, David Givens, and Wes Welker (like Brown, he’s great, but not going to the HOF). Brady has handed off to Antwain Smith, Sammy Morris, Laurence Maroney, BenJarvus Green-Ellis, and Corey Dillon, who had only one spectacular season in NE (not a HOFer either).
    And lastly @ Ravensmaniac
    I do not want to discount Ray Rice’s brilliant 80 yard TD run, but take that away, and the Ravens averaged 2.9 yards per carry on the other 50 rushes. Flacco threw for under 40 yards. Ravens didn’t stomp. Every once in awhile, a blind squirrel finds a nut. They outplayed the Pats in one quarter–the first. In the other 3 quarters, the Ravens lost 14-13. Congrats on your teams’ win. They went far after that victory, but temper your expectations. The Ravens suck. Ray Lewis is old. Ed Reed is hurt. Bart Scott is gone. Ngata’s got nada. Cody’s a fat shit. Bolden ain’t shit without Fitzy. Mason needs hip replacement. McGahee needs knee replacement. Heap’s a heap. Flacco is horrible. And your stadium was built with blood money. 8-8 if you’re lucky.

  40. TheSleepness says: Jul 24, 2010 1:18 AM

    ahh ok..Brady the contract is large and the Pats FO is handlingly it dilligently. With Revis, the Jets are buffoons.

  41. robert ethen says: Jul 24, 2010 1:26 AM

    Brady can make better money putting his hands under someone’s ass at home on the Riviera.

  42. Ufanforreal says: Jul 24, 2010 1:49 AM

    What have you done for me lately? Manning is 2-3 in his last 3 postseasons. Brady is 4-3 in his last 3 postseasons. Each has a SB appearance. Brady broke Mannings TD record.
    ——————————————————Come on man Manning made that record with I believe 3 games left in the season and of those 3 games the second half he sat out, so yes Brady broke that record but did it playing in all the games of that season.
    Don’t come on here and just pick as you please the facts hell there are alot of stats that could be screwed around using your method.

  43. David56 says: Jul 24, 2010 2:35 AM

    Unlike so many rookies these days who have signed monsterous contracts before they have even one official play under their belts, Tom Brady is a more than proven product with HOF creds already there for him.
    I’m a dye-in-the-wool Giants fan, and no one enjoyed watching the G-Men pull off the huge upset in SB Forty-Two more than I did.
    Still, setting tean loyalty aside here for a moment, an objective look at Tom Brady and what he has done for the Patriots franchise is more that proof that he deserves every dime he can make for as long as his career lasts. Like him or not there is no denying that he is one of the top three elite QB’s in the NFL today, and has been for the past 5-or-6 seasons.
    New England should just pay him what he thinks he deserves.

  44. dcs67 says: Jul 24, 2010 5:16 AM

    I think the major problem for anyone wanting a big deal right now is the labor unrest. Nobody knows how this will play out.

  45. patpatriotagain says: Jul 24, 2010 5:19 AM

    i’m a pats fan but please BCGreg, lay off the sauce.

  46. onlymyopinionmatters says: Jul 24, 2010 5:36 AM

    Meni69 says:
    July 23, 2010 9:56 PM
    What has Brady done since spygate?
    What has Brady done since spygate?
    What has Brady done since spygate?
    What has Brady done since spygate?
    18-1 moron
    **********************************
    Hmmmmm, Let me see……..
    How bout during the infamous season(2007) in which the patriots were caught cheating they went 18-1. That’s right, they were not undefeated. And were outclassed in the Super Bowl loss.
    2008 season Mr. Pollard blows up Brady’s knee and puts him out for the year. Matt Cassel leads the Patriots to a 11-5 season.
    2009 season Brady returns but has just a season less impressive than Cassell’s the previous season, at times looking scared. Brady and the Patriots get slaughtered in the first round HOME playoff game as their own fans walk out in the first halk.
    So what has Brady done since spygate again?? You damn M O R O N

  47. Cahill says: Jul 24, 2010 5:41 AM

    @4ever19
    There is no salary cap anymore and there will probably never be one again. So it doesn’t matter how much he gets paid as long as the team doesn’t run into debt.

  48. Crazy Nick says: Jul 24, 2010 6:53 AM

    What has Brady done since spygate?
    What has Brady done since spygate?
    What has Brady done since spygate?
    What has Brady done since spygate?
    18-1 moron
    __________________________________
    The greatest thing is that number that comes right after the 18.
    The “1″. As in LOST THE SUPER BOWL!
    Brady and those cheating maggots have NEVER won a freakin’ thing without videotaping their opponents signals.
    The MVP of the Patriots in their “glory days” was the camcorder.

  49. HarrisonHits says: Jul 24, 2010 7:07 AM

    Mortensen is an ass. He and the Crypt Keeper are trying to manufacture a story where there is none.
    Hey let’s just make up crap about Brady and put it out there to start sh*t. Since there is zero accountability in sports reporting you a-holes can get away with this sort of thing.

  50. FoF says: Jul 24, 2010 7:43 AM

    Say what you will about Favre, but he has NEVER threatened to hold out for more money like Golden Boy Brady has.

  51. TheWizard says: Jul 24, 2010 7:57 AM

    The Patriots had an off day and the Ravens a great one. If that win had been one on the road to a Super Bowl victory it would have been significant. It wasn’t and it ain’t.
    They feel the need to live off the glory of that first round win. So be it.
    I think it’s amusing that people take so much notice when the Pats don’t win every game.
    That’s when you know you’re on top.

  52. SomeFans says: Jul 24, 2010 8:09 AM

    Brady and the pats are soft… he said so himself. Looks like they’re soft in the wallet as well.

  53. TheWizard says: Jul 24, 2010 8:10 AM

    those cheating maggots have NEVER won a freakin’ thing without videotaping their opponents signals
    16-0 regular season, only one ever.
    Couple of division championships as well.
    Unfortunately when you’re the best, all that matters is Super Bowls.
    So maybe you’re right.

  54. TexasBubba says: Jul 24, 2010 8:41 AM

    GO DALLAS COWBOYS ! ! !

  55. PFK says: Jul 24, 2010 9:17 AM

    once again ESPN and Mortensen get off making it up as they go along…..with PFT’s help. Its the longest running story in the history of football that continues DESPITE the fact that not a SINGLE person has stepped up and said Brady is upset about his contract. Not Brady, Not his agent, Not anyone in his family, Not one of his teammates, Not any of his ex-teammates. Not anyone of his friends. NO ONE!
    Nothing but rumors, backed by anonymous, vague and vapid sources. Its the NEW Journalism. If there is no story, you can just make one up. No accountability, no repercussions. When this one peters out, the “new journalist” just pretends it never happened and move on to the next fantasy.

  56. stanjam says: Jul 24, 2010 9:30 AM

    Can’t believe that people are still convinced spygate somehow gave the Pats an incredible advantage, even though this has been PROVEN false. Just about every coach interviewed, including other coaches who admit doing it, say it gives almost nothing in terms of advantage. They also admit that MANY teams do it, and ALL try to steal the signals from the other side.
    Add to that that communication with the QB cuts off well before final signals are sent to the D, and that any team worth ANYTHING mixes up signals and you have the truth. Also look at the stats. They bear out that there is no statistical gain in either the second half of games or the second meeting.
    The Patriots were the most scrutinized team in 07, and yet they became the first and only team to win every single game in a 16 game season. They broke all kinds of records, including TD throws, even though there was no tape. The 07 Patriots had the best offense in the HISTORY of the game, and lost the SB thanks to a lucky catch. All props to the Giants, but the Patriots were in that game to the end.
    So those that say the Pats haven’t done anything since spygate, and therefore they needed to cheat to win, get a life, and get some lessons in football. Name me a team that hasn’t cheated? Get a clue, and get over the fact that the Pats ARE the latest dynasty in the NFL, cause that ain’t changing.

  57. bonecity7 says: Jul 24, 2010 9:35 AM

    “FoF says:
    July 24, 2010 7:43 AM
    Say what you will about Favre, but he has NEVER threatened to hold out for more money like Golden Boy Brady has. ”
    Hey genius, please provide a quote, any quote from Brady where he threatened to hold out!!
    He has NEVER threatened a holdout you tool!!

  58. ampats says: Jul 24, 2010 9:48 AM

    The Manning/Brady debate is dumb. Both great QB’s.
    Thankfully we don’t have to debate about having a bust like Chico Sanchez !

  59. CKL says: Jul 24, 2010 9:54 AM

    # TexasBubba says: July 24, 2010 8:41 AM
    GO DALLAS COWBOYS ! ! !
    _______________________________
    This is one of the most intelligent comments on this story and I am a Pats fan and dislike the Cowboys. Make of that what you will. :D
    ________________________________
    # HarrisonHits says: July 24, 2010 7:07 AM
    Mortensen is an ass. He and the Crypt Keeper are trying to manufacture a story where there is none.
    Hey let’s just make up crap about Brady and put it out there to start sh*t. Since there is zero accountability in sports reporting you a-holes can get away with this sort of thing.
    ________________________________
    HH, I agree that Clayton was completely BSing with his I KNOW BRADY IS TICKED thing because he offered ZERO to back it up. But when I listened to what Mort said, he seemed pretty firm that he has actually spoken to enough people to offer that as his educated opinion. It is a bit worrisome and I also wonder if TB’s camp wanted this out there for media pressure since he himself will never talk about his contract publicly and we’ve never even heard rumors of this nature before.

  60. TheWizard says: Jul 24, 2010 10:00 AM

    Looks like they’re soft in the wallet as well.
    Yeah, that sure describes Bob Kraft.
    Are you guys getting dumber, or is it just the moon phase?
    Some really misinformed stuff on this one.

  61. SterilizeTHenry says: Jul 24, 2010 10:02 AM

    The Patriots have always espoused a financially disciplined approach that tries not to put anyone above the team. But we suspect the slow movement on Brady’s contract has less to do with principle, and more to do with the normal process of a negotiation this large.
    ————————-
    Damn right. Brady made the Patriots. Before him, Belichick was a failed head coach who never won anything with a failed QB named Drew Bledsoe who never won anything.
    Brady is above the team.

  62. patsfanlisa says: Jul 24, 2010 10:08 AM

    I think I get stupider just by virtue of reading some of the comments by some of you morons.
    FACT: Brady never said he’s holding out.
    FACT: After being accused of taping signals the Patriots went on to a record season in passing, TDs, and games won.
    FACT: Brady deserves every dime, having restructured his contract in the past, taken less than any other premiere QB in the league.
    FACT: It’s an embarassment that Manning is getting $15+ mil, Eli is getting $19 mil, Rivers is getting $20+ mil, and Brady is getting $3.5 mil this year.
    FACT: Anyone that thinks Brady is on the decline is an idiot.
    FACT: See you morons at SB45

  63. JoeSixPack says: Jul 24, 2010 10:10 AM

    Bob Nelson says: Brad Childress always likes to “outsmart” Bill Belichick. Let the vikings offer Brady some money to play next year in Minnesota after Brett Favre’s contract is over.
    That would be just like Childress… “outsmarting” Belichick and getting slammed for tampering making an offer to a player under contract

  64. GRpatriot says: Jul 24, 2010 10:11 AM

    There are really some ignorant azzes who post here! Brady had given the Patriots the lead at 14-10 with 2 mins left! In the SuperBowl vs. the Giants. Fact! The defense choked away that game! Not Brady! Couldn’t sack Eli, (they had their hands on his jersey) missed picks (3) and “the catch, from Tyree!” (since retired at 27!) Ellis Hobbs gave up the TD! He didn’t even try for a pass interference! The DEFENSE blew it! Notice those players are gone! Hobbs, Green, Seymour, Harrison, Samuel and Thomas! GONE!
    That is why they didn’t go 19-0. How you can blame Brady? Did you watch the game?
    Very easy and revisionist history to spew hate!
    So, they lost a play off game at home. Big deal! It’s the only playoff loss at home, one! Alot of Raven bravado after the fact!
    Continue the hate! The Patriots reloaded with 24 draft picks in 2 years. Mostly on D. They won the East in a transistion year! BB has taken over the Defense and Pease is gone also. Pease is the Ravens LB Coach. Step backwards… Hate on, Brother hate on!
    Oh yeah, I expect the usual Boston fan elitest comments. If elitest means illustrate your point with facts, knock yourselves out! Hate away!

  65. CookieFlash says: Jul 24, 2010 10:13 AM

    Brady will get paid.

  66. Dome Unit says: Jul 24, 2010 10:32 AM

    BCGreg is by far the biggest Patriot homer I’ve seen on this site…Who gives a crap how the Ravens beat the Pats, you can make every excuse possible…when you talk about Ray being old, Bart being gone, and Ngata sucking it just proves that you’re a moron, the Pats have been playing a cupcake division for years and now the Jets and Dolphins are finally comparable where the Bills will continue to blow until they’re sent packing to LA…you asked what they’ve done? I figured the AFC Championship with a rookie coach/qb and then going to the playoffs the year after is pretty damn good, considering we didn’t get caught using even a frame of illegally obtained practice footage you beantown douchebag

  67. Batman says: Jul 24, 2010 10:51 AM

    @ stanjam
    Thank you. Thank you for providing legitiment information. Patriot haters (otherwise known as sore losers) have no idea what actually happened with “spygate” but what a tool to use against the Patriots. Fans of other teams couldnt stand seeing them win..so..whatever chance they have to sling rocks…do it.
    Every team in the NFL has done this. Is it illegal?..yeah I guess. they took away a first round pick. The Patriots are just the only team who were caught. How convenient. The NFL needs parody. But thats tough when a team dominates. I am not insinuating there was a conspiracy…just fishy. Belicheat..I love it. He is maybe the best coach ever. Most certainly top 5. The Patriots did it all right..and were succesful. Deal with Browns fans..Jets fans..Ravens fans. Deal with it. I am a Red Sox fan. I dont accuse the Yankees of breaking rules because they dominated. I hate them..but its a regional thing. Not a bitterness thing.
    the Patriots could be on the downswing of a dynasty. But give credit where credit is due.
    All NFL teams taped the other teams!!!!!
    …and like stanjam…I didnt really help.

  68. animal mother says: Jul 24, 2010 11:17 AM

    Isn’t the spygate thing getting old yet ? 18-1 !!!!!!

  69. Hap says: Jul 24, 2010 11:17 AM

    Notice how the ESPNers soft-step when it comes to The Cheats, but they TORCH any other team. Also notice it gets worse the further THAT team is from Bristol, with esopn’s penultimate whippion boys are The Dallas Cowboys.

  70. TallGuyMe says: Jul 24, 2010 11:32 AM

    it was a six year $60 million dollar frontloaded contract, so basically $10mil a year… he should still be paid more, but when you look at it that way, he has nothing to be unhappy about.

  71. Steve W. says: Jul 24, 2010 12:15 PM

    The irony here is that Brady’s team first attitude actually makes it harder to get his contract done this year. Between the home town discount he gave the Patriots on his current contract, and the way he agreed to renegotiate his contract so they could sign Moss, his actual salary this year is quite small given his stature in the league. That means the 30% rule could really mess with the way they put together his contract extension. Manning, who has never been asked to play for a discount, has a high salary, which means the 30% rule doesn’t really affect him much. I have to agree with the first commenter. This isn’t “playing out in public” because Brady or the Pats are talking about it. Both sides are pretty much keeping quiet about it. Everyone keeps trying to get either side to give them a soundbite, however. To date, the most they’ve gotten from Brady is that there’s not much to be done about it right now, and that his agent and the team have to try and work things out. Kraft’s only response I believe is that he intends for Brady to continue being an integral part of the Pats. I’m not particularly a Pats fan, but I respect the way Brady is handling things. He may be unhappy, but he’s not even coming close to throwing a tantrum about things, and he’s letting things play out behind the scenes where they belong. Still, this isn’t smart for the Pats. With all of the outside talk, they really need to get this taken care of. If the players start to believe the team is willing to shaft Brady, then they’d have to shudder when thinking about what could happen to them. It may not be true, but when the media takes over the story, what’s true and what isn’t doesn’t always matter.

  72. LAEaglefan says: Jul 24, 2010 12:18 PM

    Both Manning and Brady, although great quarterbacks by any standard, would not be in the class that they are if it weren’t for offensive lines that protect them so well. These guys rarely get touched, and neither one of them is very mobile. Would either one of these guys have the stats that they do if they were playing for Kansas City or Oakland?

  73. Steve W. says: Jul 24, 2010 12:22 PM

    # Jeremy says: July 23, 2010 9:24 PM
    If memory serves, Brady took a bit of a hometown discount on his last contract, taking less so the Patriots could afford to pay other players.
    I don’t think it’s fair to ask him to do that again. I cant’ stand the guy, but he deserves to get paid. He’s one of the best.
    ___________________________________
    Actually, it’s worse than that. Brady did what he did for the team, and then the team used his actions to try and make other players take less money too. The reports I’ve read all say that Brady was not happy with that at all. He did what he did, but he never meant for what he did to be used that way. Those same reports say that he’s determined not to give another home town discount, not because he needs the money, but because he doesn’t want to set another precedent when it comes to his teammates getting paid. Love the guy or hate him, he is a team player by every definition of the word.

  74. Steve W. says: Jul 24, 2010 12:26 PM

    # JimmySmith says: July 23, 2010 9:30 PM
    Maybe Brady is worth $20 mil if Matt Walsh returns to help him achieve his former glory but based on his last couple of years with an even playing field, no way.
    ____________________________________
    That is one of the dumbest things I’ve read here…and that’s saying something. Even playing field? His ACL and MCL were shredded in the first game of the season in 08. Hard to have a big year then. Last year was his first year back from that injury, and you’re not at full strength with an injury like that until the next year. If he sucks this year (which he didn’t last year), then you might have an argument.

  75. Steve W. says: Jul 24, 2010 12:32 PM

    # onlymyopinionmatters says: July 23, 2010 9:39 PM
    Greedy Bobby Kraft is NOT going to give Brady anything close to Peyton Manning money.
    He is overrated. Kraft knows Brady put up numbers and got Super Bowl wins due to being the beneficiary of cheating. He also knows Brady has not proved his gimp knee is fully recovered.
    What has Brady done since spygate?
    How many Super Bowl wins and playoff wins?
    How did Brady look last season when the Ravens used him as a tackling dummy?
    Sorry bandwagoners, your tainted dynasty is done.
    ___________________________________
    Yet another know nothing homer post. What has he done since spygate? How about perfect regular season. Set the record of TD passes in a single season, as well as blowing away the scoring record. Took his team to the SB. Lost it in a close score after he took his team down the field and scored a TD only to have his defense give up one right after that. Spygate was week one or two of that season, and they never got a chance to use those tapes. He played part of the first quarter of the first game in 08 before getting knocked out for the season with an injury. Last year, while still recovering from that injury, he still put up good numbers, but the Pats had a very young defense that couldn’t hold up their end of the bargain. I’m not even a Pats fan and I know better than to say the dump stuff you just did. Next time how about learning about the issue before you spout off?

  76. Steve W. says: Jul 24, 2010 12:45 PM

    # Nickelman22 says: July 23, 2010 10:19 PM
    Brady is not as good as Peyton, he has more superbowls but isn’t as good. Period. Do we consider Trent Dilfer to be better than Dan Marino just because Dilfer won a superbowl? Of course not. Peyton is better and should be paid as though he better. Not only that, but this is a league of “what have you done for me lately”. Peyton hasn’t been hurt and has had better results in recent years. This coming from a Packers fan by the way.
    _________________________________
    Oh please. Manning has been surrounded by about seven first round picks on offense in his time with the Colts. Even with that, Manning dominates the regular season and has a drop off in the post season. Look at the stats if you don’t believe me. Brady, on the other hand, wasn’t surrounded with a whole lot of firepower until Moss and Welker came on board, and his three SB wins came before that. Although, he did break Manning’s record after they showed up. Oh, and he gets the job done in the post season. Brady is the superior QB, if one has too be picked. How many QBs have done as much as Brady has is the past with the kind of receiving corps he had before Moss and Welker? I’m not saying Manning couldn’t do it, but given his surrounding cast, we’ll never know. Personally, I’m fine with saying they’re both great QBs and leaving it at that.

  77. Djaehne says: Jul 24, 2010 12:46 PM

    Brady’s agent is unhappy that Brady’s agent
    isn’t getting Brady signed to make 20 mil a year.
    Titans suck.

  78. SomeFans says: Jul 24, 2010 12:50 PM

    “Yeh, but he’s earned it and been a model citizen?”
    Yea, fathering a bastard child and then dumping the mother is really being a model citizen… knob.

  79. FoF says: Jul 24, 2010 12:57 PM

    GRpatriot,
    Lay off the kool aid. The fact is that Brady was like a deer caught in headlights against that Giants D that whole game. Despite having the BEST offense of ALL TIME, he could only manage to score 14 points keeping the Giants in the whole game.
    The Patriots D actually played an OUTSTANDING game. They basically shut down the Giants the whole game until the last drive, and if Brady and Co had done their job on Offense there would have been no “miracle drive” for the Giants.
    The Giants scored 23 points on the Pack two weeks before in -10 degree weather and your complaining that your D gave up 10 with two minutes left in the game?
    Take off your rose colored glasses, Brady played the Giants D worse then Favre (who had to play in -10 degree weather and a running that supported him with 13 freakin yards) or Romo (who had to deal with high maint T.O.) did during that playoff series.

  80. Steve W. says: Jul 24, 2010 1:01 PM

    # Ufanforreal says: July 24, 2010 1:49 AM
    What have you done for me lately? Manning is 2-3 in his last 3 postseasons. Brady is 4-3 in his last 3 postseasons. Each has a SB appearance. Brady broke Mannings TD record.
    ——————– ——————– ————–Come on man Manning made that record with I believe 3 games left in the season and of those 3 games the second half he sat out, so yes Brady broke that record but did it playing in all the games of that season.
    Don’t come on here and just pick as you please the facts hell there are alot of stats that could be screwed around using your method.
    _______________________________
    It wasn’t with three games left. Maybe one game, one and a half tops. He played part of both of the final two games. Oh, and the record is for most TDs in a season. What Manning might have done had he and his coach not been a couple of wussies means nothing. There’s no guarantee anything would have been different. I know one stat Manning has that Brady will never equal: interceptions thrown in playoff games. In the playoffs (with the exception of this last game) Brady is clutch. Manning is a broken clutch. How many times are the Colts going to lose to the Chargers anyway?

  81. Steve W. says: Jul 24, 2010 1:13 PM

    Hmmmmm, Let me see……..
    How bout during the infamous season(2007) in which the patriots were caught cheating they went 18-1. That’s right, they were not undefeated. And were outclassed in the Super Bowl loss.
    2008 season Mr. Pollard blows up Brady’s knee and puts him out for the year. Matt Cassel leads the Patriots to a 11-5 season.
    2009 season Brady returns but has just a season less impressive than Cassell’s the previous season, at times looking scared. Brady and the Patriots get slaughtered in the first round HOME playoff game as their own fans walk out in the first halk.
    So what has Brady done since spygate again?? You damn M O R O N
    ____________________________
    The moron here sir is you. Spygate was at the very BEGINNING of the 2007 season. Everything that happened after that then is after spygate by definition. Oh, and if you think 2007 is a failure for Brady you’re truly a moron. Broke how many records? Won more games, and against tougher opponents, than the 72 Dolphins. No, they didn’t win the SB, but it was close and Brady led them on what should have been a game winning drive in the 4th quarter. It was a miracle Tyree catch and a Pats CB stumbling over his own feet that changed that. As for 08, what player can prevent a freak injury? That’s just dumb to make it sound like that’s proof he’s not a great QB. As for last year, yes, he was running scared to one of his best statistical seasons (that’s sarcasm in case you missed it). You seem to be missing a major difference between the 08 and 09 Pats…quite a few veteran defensive players. Richard Seymour, Mike Vrabel, and Teddy Bruschi ring a bell?

  82. ochostinko says: Jul 24, 2010 1:23 PM

    DJSlyBri says:
    July 23, 2010 10:03 PM
    Robert Kraft is a right-wing nut who is going to sooner or later blame Obama because they can’t sign Brady. That’s what all right-wing Republicans do. Blame everything on the black President.
    ==============
    STFU you stupid ass.
    On the other hand, you might have a point. Maybe Kraft will blame Obama for it once Mr. Hope and Change tries to take over pro sports like he has the banks, the auto industry and the health care system. He has certainly done wonders for us in each of those areas…

  83. onlymyopinionmatters says: Jul 24, 2010 1:40 PM

    Steve W. sounds like Belicheats b!atch on here. No matter what anybody posts about the washed up Brady, or the cheters, ol Steve W. is quick to bang out a long winded rose colored version of how he sees the team coached by his lover.
    Please Mrs. Belicheat, spare us the “stand by your man” routine, it’s making us gag…………. but not like your used to gagging……on your ol man Belicheat while he pats you on your head.

  84. CKL says: Jul 24, 2010 1:47 PM

    LOL @ the guy who thinks Mr. Kraft is a R let alone a right winger. ORLY???? You might want to check what side he and his team donates the most money to. He’s a great businessman though and a good person. Most of us Pats fans love and appreciate a guy who started out as a fan freezing his buttock-al region off in the old stadium and ended up owning the team.

  85. TheWizard says: Jul 24, 2010 2:15 PM

    Yea, fathering a bastard child and then dumping the mother is really being a model citizen… knob.
    It’s pretty obvious to anyone over the age of 30 what that pregnancy was about.
    Hint- it wasn’t Tom’s idea……….

  86. GRpatriot says: Jul 24, 2010 3:15 PM

    FoF what’s that? What game did you watch?
    I don’t care what the Giants did to the Packers or Favre? Favre’s last minute chocks are well documented…
    The Patriot defense gave up 7 with 2 minutes left!
    What the hell have you been smoking? Final score was 17-14 dope.
    14-10 Patriots with 2 minutes left…
    Even Eli said he couldn’t believe he did get sacked?
    Yeah the Giants D made it tough with constant pressure… but Brady did his job and put his Team in a position to win. 4 point lead with 2 minutes left. So don’t give me this deer in the headlights look, crap! He made the plays when it counted! 3 dropped picks is playing excellent? The D line had their hands on Eli several times but couldn’t get him on the ground during the “Miracle Drive!” Put the blame where it belongs, Belichick did. That’s why all those guys are GONE! What happened to the Aints last year? Teams figured out their scheme? No, you lost Strahan and the other guys didn’t step up!
    I guess that’s why Caughlin drafted every D lineman he could this year? I don’t know how he’s going to use all of them? Maybe 8-2 defense?

  87. PATtunya says: Jul 24, 2010 3:52 PM

    Wizard—–
    No it was just his idea to put his wee wee in her thing thing and go hee haw.

  88. ampats says: Jul 24, 2010 3:52 PM

    Some Fans,
    Aren’t you alittle lost commenting on the elite team and QB of the AFC East, New England & Tom Brady ?
    You are usually trolling the Paper Champions, the Newark Jests blogs playing with your friends?
    Also, try and get your facts straight. Tom Brady and BM were broken up before the pregnancy . Bridget Moynihan has an article in Self Magazine regarding the timetable but I know it is better to manipulate the truth as many on this site like to do.
    By the way before all the cute comments, my wife reads it .

  89. Bdrunk says: Jul 25, 2010 10:01 AM

    Oh, to have the problems of an NFL QB…
    “Let’s see, should I bang my super model wife while the details of my 20 million/year contract are hammered out? or should I just go grab a cup of coffee?”

  90. 2 Mannings 1 Cup says: Jul 25, 2010 2:50 PM

    Chris Mortenson is a joke. I’m a Colts fan, but Brady deserves a contract at least equal to Mannings. Both owners are holding out due to the CBA which may turn out to be a smart move. It’s a disgrace that Brady is being paid that low of a salary. ESPN needs to hire better journalists besides Mort and the even worse Adam Schefter.

  91. nowathand says: Jul 25, 2010 6:46 PM

    BCGreg, your comments about Boldin would be true if not for the fact that Boldin had 1300 yards his rookie year before Fitzgerald came out and Boldin had more YPG than Fitzgerald in Fitz’s first 1000 yard season.

  92. Maddog says: Jul 25, 2010 8:53 PM

    ampats says:
    July 24, 2010 3:52 PM
    Some Fans,
    Aren’t you alittle lost commenting on the elite team and QB of the AFC East, New England & Tom Brady ?
    You are usually trolling the Paper Champions, the Newark Jests blogs playing with your friends?
    Also, try and get your facts straight. Tom Brady and BM were broken up before the pregnancy . Bridget Moynihan has an article in Self Magazine regarding the timetable but I know it is better to manipulate the truth as many on this site like to do.
    ===============================
    If they broke up before the pregnancy, how did she get pregnant? Dig an old condom out of the trash?

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