Albert Haynesworth fails conditioning test again

And on day two, the Albert Haynesworth saga at Redskins training camp turned from comedy to farce.

The defensive lineman failed his conditioning test for a second straight day, according to multiple reporters on the scene.  Haynesworth was spotted in his car as practice began with newly-signed left tackle Trent Williams on the field.

Redskins coach Mike Shanahan was very positive about Haynesworth publicly on Thursday, but apparently the $100 million man hasn’t yet paid his penance for skipping the offseason.

81 responses to “Albert Haynesworth fails conditioning test again

  1. HAHAHAHAHA…God I love Shanahan more and more every article I read…Keep sticking it too him Shanny…

  2. Give me a break. What lineman needs to run 600 yards? Shanahan is starting to get too big for his britches.

  3. So he’s sitting out practice in the redskins parking lot in his 1/2 million dollar Bentley… the horror!

  4. I think there was an omission. Shouldn’t the sentence have read, “Haynesworth was spotted in his car as practice began with a pint of Ben and Jerry’s,”

  5. Shanahan is being a D!ck, LOL. I’m with him, tho. If you want to skip OTAs then you’re going to have to prove you’re in shape. If I were the coach, I’d make him do 50-yard sprints every 3 minutes for an hour, then let him rest for an hour and do it all over again.

  6. WOW. Is there some kind of way the Redskins can get money back if he can’t play, or are they out all the money they have given him no matter what?

  7. What a farce! An absolute god-smacka! Blimey!
    You guys are idiots. This is not a news story.

  8. The only farce is they made him do it again the very next day? Like he gained some amazing cardio abilities overnight.

  9. Ok Shanahan you proved your point yesterday. Now your just being a dick. The guy is the best lineman you have its time to get him on the field.

  10. the guy needs his arse whipped, hell even shaun rogers was in camp until pup list, and last year he committed (money driven) to lose weight. albert is a fat overpaid moron.

  11. If you gave this test to every D-lineman in the league, 75% of them would fail it. 85% of O-lineman would.
    Do you honestly believe very many of them could run 600 yards- 6 football fields- worth of sprints with only one short break in the middle?
    Shanahan needs to start thinking about how important it is to make his point versus the possible negatives. Yes, many of AH teamates spoke out against him not coming to OTA’s, but if you don’t think they will start to rally around him if MS continues to humiliate him, I don’t think you’ve been paying attention to the modern NFL player.
    Besides, what does AH really have to lose? He can just keep failing the test and getting out of practice. As long as he shows up ready to go, the Skins can’t fine him or get any of the $20M back if they cut him.

  12. The really rediculous thing is the stuff about the training staff working with him until he can pass the test.
    If Haynesworth is too unfit, it will take longer than a few days to improve his fitness, so why go through the motions of having him retest the next day. If he is unfit just say, we are going to make him do aerobic training for the next 2-weeks and then we will retest.
    The only reason I can see for this, is that Shanahan wants to be seen by the team as being too hard on Haynesworth. The players will then start to feel a little sorry for Albert and petition the coach to allow him to practice. Thus diffusing any resentment the players who attended OTAs feel for Haynesworth.
    So, outwardly it may look like Shanahan is being a dick, but it may actually be a cunning plan to defuse tension between Haynesworth and the rest of the team. Please God, let this be a cunning plan, I don’t think I can take it if our coach is really just a mean-spirited git.

  13. What? No Shanahan bashing this time by the Florio-led PFT coaching staff with no team sports experience?

  14. “Give me a break. What lineman needs to run 600 yards? Shanahan is starting to get too big for his britches.”
    Did you ever play football? On any level, when the head coach tells you to do something you do it. When he says jump, you maybe ask how high, but you freaking jump. Fat Albert has thumbed his nose at the whole organization(after telling them he wouldn’t when they wrote him a big fat check). In order to maintain respect and discipline for the rest of the team…Fat Albert is going to be made an example of. And most Skins fans would buy tickets to see it.

  15. Maybe to keep in shape during the offseason, Albert followed the Rex Ryan exercise program?

  16. Guys, this will end. When Coach Shanahan sees that Albert’s pride has been put in check, he’ll be invited on to the field. This is the same tactic used in military basic training where you are broken down and built back up as a team. Right now, the rusty cog is AH. He just needs some wire brushing.

  17. I don’t care if 90% in the league would fail the test…..you have to pass to practice. Hail!

  18. @longestlegs
    yeah, they never run that far in a game…
    That’s ridiculous, this is a test of anaerobic maximal endurance. There are 100s of scientific studies that correlate a players ability to complete to 300 yard shuttles to maximal effort necessary for linemen. It is very commonly used as a basis for physical aptitude of linemen in the NFL.
    @realitypolice
    That’s not true. They would ALL pass it. because it’s what is necessary. Every linemen in college would likely pass it too. Hell Cody passed it after his second attempt. If that guy can pass it anyone can.
    I’d imagine this is less about Haynesworth’s ability to pass the test as it is his heart. These tests suck…. but you can pass it if you want to. Shanahan is requiring Haynesworth to show that he wants to be there, and is willing to dig deep to be there. If Haynesworth fails again, he will have hell to pay with his teammates.

  19. I think Haynesworth is getting what he deserves. If he and his trainer that he was using in the offseason hadn’t been bragging about what GREAT shape he was in then maybe Shanahan wouldn’t be trying to prove his point that he would have been better served by being at OTAs.

  20. Wow, initially I think Shanahan was right in imposing some discipline on the team. But it does not seem credible that if he failed the test one day, he would be able to pass it the very next day. To improve your cardio, you probably have to work out a bit first…build up to it.
    If Shannahan was trying to make a point but really wants AH on the field playing, he needs to come up with an end-game that’s going to allow him to pass AH on this test and get him on the field.
    I think he’s made his point now and probably needs to move things along.

  21. jfdane says: July 30, 2010 9:03 AM
    WOW. Is there some kind of way the Redskins can get money back if he can’t play, or are they out all the money they have given him no matter what?
    realitypolice says: July 30, 2010 9:18 AM
    He can just keep failing the test and getting out of practice. As long as he shows up ready to go, the Skins can’t fine him or get any of the $20M back if they cut him.
    *******************************************************
    This is what I was getting at yesterday in another thread, when I said “Albert Haynesworth, meet JaMarcus Russell”.
    It’s apparent to me that they’re going to find a way to get their money back from Haynesworth, just like the Raiders are with Russell.

  22. longestlegs says:
    July 30, 2010 8:57 AM
    Give me a break. What lineman needs to run 600 yards? Shanahan is starting to get too big for his britches.
    They all have to do it, moron. They aren’t singling Tons-of-fun out. What a joke of a signing by Danny Boy!

  23. Yeah, shanahan is getting a bit crazy here. There’s no way he can get into that kind of shape in 1 day. What a joke.

  24. realitypolice says: July 30, 2010 9:18 AM
    “but if you don’t think they will start to rally around him if MS continues to humiliate him, I don’t think you’ve been paying attention to the modern NFL player.”
    There might be some truth to that and if so it makes MS even more savvy than he’s getting credit for. Sending a message about the HMIC and also galvanizing the team at the same time. Not bad for a couple day’s work.

  25. I’m all for Shanahan making his point because Haynesworth is a recently “unproven” player on this redskins team BUT at the same time enough is enough. If he is going to make a fool of himself, let him get on the field and do so. This BS doesn’t do anything but create a Media circus … Shanahan is seemingly doing a good job “reshaping” the skins BUT he is also a coach who tends to go on a power trip, do or die, my way or no way type coaching. He better get the wins to back up all the hot air that he’s letting out …

  26. I think Shanahan is getting, or has, a God complex. I know you are pissed, but what good is this doing the team besides making a bad situation worse.

  27. realitypolice – I couldn’t agree with you more.
    The Washington coaching staff and brass has built up some political capital with the players . . . the fact that the players spoke out against another player and sided with the coaches/ownership was/is a big deal . . . but at best that relationship is tedious and it won’t take much to turn the tide.
    Shanahan is an egomaniac and always has been . . . if he continues to dog Haynesworth he is going to lose the locker room . . . and there aren’t very many teams with a divide between the players and the coach that go on to win a lot of games.
    The point was made yesterday . . . anything else is petty and humiliating . . . any all the fans posting support for Shanahan and suggesting he keep going clearly have not played team sports and don’t understand that a player looks at that and thinks to himself . . . well if he will humiliate that guy he could just as easily do it to me.

  28. Shanahan’s obviously trying to make a POINT. It’s overkill, but for a guy who got paid $21 million, then publicly dissed the organization, then skipped voluntary and mandatory camp and then “graces” the team with his presence when he feels like it deserves to be treated like a dog. Go Shanny. Show Fat Albert who’s boss.

  29. # joelsieeee says: July 30, 2010 9:10 AM
    The only farce is they made him do it again the very next day? Like he gained some amazing cardio abilities overnight.
    __________
    that is exactly what happened with terrance cody. failed the first day passed the second day.

  30. The NFL must do something against idiots like Albert Haynesworth. This guy signed 100 million dollars contract and has the courage to criticize scheme changing, skip practice and all that stuff. That’s awful and ridicolous at the same time. Bring back real professionist like Jonathan Ogden, Mike Munchak and guys like those.

  31. haha. This is about as old school as football gets these days. You’re gonna have to prove you wanna play, albert! No more hand holding..

  32. Does this really surprise anyone at this point. Did we expect a different response from Redskins management. Shanahan is a new coach, working with a new general manager. He has to show he has complete control of his players and not let any of the players walk all over him, not matter how much money they make. I for one applaud the way Shanahan has been managing this team so far. He is showing a lot of confidence which is important when you are managing such a large group of individuals, many of whom make more money than you do. This is the type of attitude and leadership a 4-12 team needs at this point.

  33. TP7 says:
    July 30, 2010 9:37 AM
    longestlegs says:
    July 30, 2010 8:57 AM
    Give me a break. What lineman needs to run 600 yards? Shanahan is starting to get too big for his britches.
    They all have to do it, moron. They aren’t singling Tons-of-fun out. What a joke of a signing by Danny Boy!
    ===================
    Ummmm………….No. Shanahan himself has admitted the AH is the only one who has take the test.
    Stop calling people morons if yo don’t know what the hell you are talking about.

  34. The great thing about this farce is it shows that the Redskins have made NO progress with Shanny- Rat Boy in charge. If Fatsworth can’t pass a conditioning test he claims to never have been able to pass keeps him out of practice, it delays his progress to help the team. The Redskins have become the joke of the NFL in the Danny era…this just proves they continue to be the laughing stock.
    I get messages every day about how great the Skins will be with Rat Boy and McNabb. But then again (in DC) I hear this crap every year. Last year the local media and all the fans said they would be 11-5 and we saw how that turned out.

  35. Pockets Straight says:
    July 30, 2010 9:28 AM
    @longestlegs
    yeah, they never run that far in a game…
    That’s ridiculous, this is a test of anaerobic maximal endurance. There are 100s of scientific studies that correlate a players ability to complete to 300 yard shuttles to maximal effort necessary for linemen. It is very commonly used as a basis for physical aptitude of linemen in the NFL.
    ————————–
    Fair enough, good to know. But yes, consecutively they never run 600 yards in a given time frame, in a game. If they want to make sure he’s in game shape, thats one argument. This is a different one.

  36. Yeah, shanahan is getting a bit crazy here. There’s no way he can get into that kind of shape in 1 day. What a joke.

  37. To you people whining that Shanahan is being unfair, retaliatory or what ever….I wonder if you ever played a down of football in lives. Florio, that means you….
    To those of you that have played, you need to think back to your HS days and what happened when you missed just one day of “two-a-days”.
    Our conditioning test at the beginning of “two-a-days” was a timed mile run based on your position. Being a LB and FB, I had to finish in 7:30 or under. If you failed it, thank God I never did, you ran it every morning until you passed it. And while everybody else was out practicing, you ran 100 yd up-downs for the whole practice. And we were playing for free. This guy just collected $20 million…he should be able to run the damn thing in his sleep. It’s 600 freaking yards…that about a lap and a half around the track. That’s not that flippin far.

  38. Pockets Straight says:
    July 30, 2010 9:28 AM
    @realitypolice
    That’s not true. They would ALL pass it. because it’s what is necessary. Every linemen in college would likely pass it too. Hell Cody passed it after his second attempt. If that guy can pass it anyone can.
    =======================
    Here is how the test Cody passed was described in an article on Bleacher Report:
    “According to Ravens’ head coach John Harbaugh, the test is this: Run 25 yards up and back three times within a set period of time.”
    By my math, that adds up to 150 yards, not 300. And AH was required to run 300 yards TWICE, or 600 yards total if you’re keeping score at home, while Cody was given 70 second breaks between each 50 yard sprint.
    So while your point that they “would ALL pass it” remains dubious and unproven, your point about Cody passing the same test AH was given, where he had to run TWO 300 yard sprints with little break in between, is disproven.

  39. Everyone of the posters out there that is not from the dc area and think Shanny is NOT doing the right thing. Well you have no idea what it has been like to cheer for this team. We need someone like Shanny to start laying down rules for this football team. It has been a club like atmosphere here for a long time and I applaud him for doing this. We need a coach that seperates the players from the owner. So you people have no friggin idea what you are talking about. THIS is a good thing!

  40. jb10 says:
    July 30, 2010 9:41 AM
    # joelsieeee says: July 30, 2010 9:10 AM
    The only farce is they made him do it again the very next day? Like he gained some amazing cardio abilities overnight.
    __________
    that is exactly what happened with terrance cody. failed the first day passed the second day.
    ====================
    Wrong. The test Cody took was three 25 yard shuttles (50 yards each, 150 yards total) with 70 between each. Not even close to what MS is making AH do.
    Again, from Bleacher Report:
    “The conditioning test he failed is not some overly complicated battery of tests. According to Ravens’ head coach John Harbaugh, the test is this: Run 25 yards up and back three times within a set period of time.”
    “The time is modified by position, so the faster, lighter players do not have an advantage over larger, slower players. The players do receive a break of 70 seconds between one interval.”

  41. I think this whole thing is funny as hell. Now, I’m just waiting on Jesse Jackson to come out and say Albert’s being treated like a slave.

  42. For all the folks backing Shanahan, I ask you, how smart is it to keep Haynesworth out of practice? You need to get him familiar with the 3-4, he needs the reps, and he’s not getting them for 2 days now because Shanny wants to puff up hios own ego. Haynesworth is a dick, granted. No argument there. But when you netted 4 wins last season, how smart is it to have one of your best players sitting out camp because you feel like screwing with him? When Haynesworth fails in the regular season, Shanahan can feel good about “being right” but the Redskins will still be losers, and that’s supposed to be his priority, not protecting his own rep as a tough coach.

  43. TMFChiefs says:
    July 30, 2010 10:05 AM
    To you people whining that Shanahan is being unfair, retaliatory or what ever….I wonder if you ever played a down of football in lives. Florio, that means you….
    To those of you that have played, you need to think back to your HS days and what happened when you missed just one day of “two-a-days”.
    ===================
    Dude, Really? Your comparing a bunch of piss ant high school football players (of which I was one) to an NFL football player? Seriously?
    Yes, we would all love professional athletes to act like eager high school kids conscientiously lapping up all of the teaching and knowledge of their esteemed coaches, never questioning them or giving them attitudes. And that all of these super rich athletes would realize how lucky they truly are and stop complaining.
    I also wish clouds were made of cotton candy and that I could own a unicorn farm.

  44. @madmike How smart would it be to let player that you paid $20 million, get on the field and get himself hurt because he’s out of shape? You ever play football? Do you know what happens when you get tired and slow down? When do most injuries happen? They usually happen late in a game or in the middle of a long drive when players are tired. So the point is, Haynesworth is one of their best players, Shanahan would be stupid to let him on the field before he’s ready.

  45. You’re an idiot, Florio.
    Off-season reports were that AH was training with a personal trainer to make sure he was in football shape. So it’s time for AH to put his money where his mouth is (and that would involve putting down the Haagan Daaz).
    He wouldn’t participate in OTAs or any voluntary workouts. So he’s gotta prove he’s fit to play. Otherwise it’ll be just like last year when he had to be carted off the field every third play.
    HTTR.

  46. I don’t get where you said Shanahan was very positive “about Haynesworth publicly”, I’m in the D.C. area and he has that cat ate the canary look whenever talking about him. He is just running him hard because he can and is still made about mini-camp. Shanahan also stated that he will start with the “second team” and when asked if he’ll be the Skin’s, he said “We’ll see”.
    Not so positive, but fun to watch.

  47. lurch’s nyquil says:
    July 30, 2010 10:08 AM
    Everyone of the posters out there that is not from the dc area and think Shanny is NOT doing the right thing. Well you have no idea what it has been like to cheer for this team. We need someone like Shanny to start laying down rules for this football team. It has been a club like atmosphere here for a long time and I applaud him for doing this. We need a coach that seperates the players from the owner. So you people have no friggin idea what you are talking about. THIS is a good thing!
    ———————————————
    Yeah, I’ve lived in Maryland my whole life. You think this builds morale and makes an example? Possibly, time will tell. Right now I’d rather just see the dude in pads.

  48. @realitypolice Dude, so what’s your point? Do you want football players on your team or do you want a bunch of whiney prema donnas that can’t even run 600 yds. Haynesworth is being exposed for what he is. And if you wish for cotton candy clouds and unicorn farm, then you either hit your head a few too many times or you’re still in the closet. So which is it??

  49. who cares. He’s getting paid a 100 million sitting in a car. I’ll take that. Shanahan is stupid to think that this is actually getting on AH’s nervers.
    Skins go no where with loser as coach

  50. It doesn’t appear that Shanny gives a rat (pun intended) whether AH passes this test or not. It is clearly a message sent to AH and especially the other members of the team. No one is larger than the team (although that could be argued by volume in the AH case).
    When your highest paid player (I assume Snyder isn’t stupid enough to pay anyone else more than this contract pays out) refuses to do as he is asked, why should the rest of the team? AH should lead by example. In this situation I give Shanny two thumbs up. And it’s hard for me to say that.

  51. shannahan is just making sure he does some actual work because you know the first tine he practices fatboy is going to say he hurt something.I hope he keeps it up and as for learning the system isn’t that why you play preseason games?I would leave in the those the whole game and let him play every snap.should be able to figure out how it works then.look he got his money now time for him to earn it!

  52. my take is they want to make this guy snap and request a trade so they can get back some $$$ they ignorantly gave this fat ass..
    I would think everybody agrees weasel boy is a dope running this org…I bet it is coming down from his level too as he is a back stabbing little weasel from all the people I know who worked this midget.

  53. I dont see anything wrong with what Shanahan is doing to Haynesworth. The dude wanted to play hardball with the organization, and now they’re sticking it back to him by making him look like an idiot.
    I also dont understand why people are bashing on Shanahan. It makes me wonder if any of them have played organized team sports at a high competitive level.

  54. # Simon12345 says: July 30, 2010 9:31 AM
    Wow, initially I think Shanahan was right in imposing some discipline on the team. But it does not seem credible that if he failed the test one day, he would be able to pass it the very next day. To improve your cardio, you probably have to work out a bit first…build up to it.
    If Shannahan was trying to make a point but really wants AH on the field playing, he needs to come up with an end-game that’s going to allow him to pass AH on this test and get him on the field.
    I think he’s made his point now and probably needs to move things along.
    __________________________
    Simon, you might want to try telling that to Terrance (Mount) Cody. The rather large rookie Defensive lineman failed the same test twice the first day, only to come back and successfully complete the test on the first try the next day.

  55. # Simon12345 says: July 30, 2010 9:31 AM
    Wow, initially I think Shanahan was right in imposing some discipline on the team. But it does not seem credible that if he failed the test one day, he would be able to pass it the very next day. To improve your cardio, you probably have to work out a bit first…build up to it.
    If Shannahan was trying to make a point but really wants AH on the field playing, he needs to come up with an end-game that’s going to allow him to pass AH on this test and get him on the field.
    I think he’s made his point now and probably needs to move things along.
    __________________________
    Simon, you might want to try telling that to Terrance (Mount) Cody. The rather large rookie Defensive lineman failed the same test twice the first day, only to come back and successfully complete the test on the first try the next day.

  56. What are the criteria for the test? He has to run 300 yards twice, but how long is he given to complete each 300 yard leg? And how long of a break in between the two runs?
    Seems to me if he failed the conditioning test he should be in the building riding a bike instead of sitting in his car.

  57. So this kind of stuff happens all the time in the movies.
    Tom Berenger in junction boys
    Miracle
    Remember the titans
    gridiron gang
    Coach Carter
    It makes the coach out to be someone who is tough on one player, but doing it for the better of the team. but it happens in real life and people think its wrong? I think it proves a point that no one is above the game no matter how much talent they have.

  58. So, Haynesworth is humiliated for missing OTA’s and voluntary camps for not showing up while under contract with the Redskins. Good for Shanahan to show that one player is not “bigger” than the rest of the team.
    Chilly, are you reading this? Does anyone from the Minneapolis Vikings know who will be their quarterback this year?
    Will Brent actually bless the Vikings with his hallowed presence one more year?
    Will he be welcomed with a conditioning test when he arrives, or will Chilly just blow him?
    It’s fun to watch the Minnesota Melodrama begin.

  59. It may not translate to a Super Bowl win. But, it’s nice to FINALLY see some accountability at Redskins Park. If you’re going to act the fool, there will be consequences, and Big Al is learning that the hard way. You can say Shanahan is being a **** or whatever, but you reap what you sow. Big Al is getting a nice meal on the practice field. Hope that humble pie is tasty!

  60. @realitypolice
    If that was the test for Cody than fine. Cody’s test is more of a HR recovery test than maximal anaerobic fitness. So it’s a completely different test.
    Haynesworth’s test was:
    run 6 25 yard shuttles (out 25 yards, back 25 yard)
    followed by a 5 minute rest (which is equivalent to more than full recovery)
    run 6 25 yard shuttles (out 25 yards, back 25 yard)
    Each set of 6 25 yard shuttles must be completed in less than 1:20.
    This is a test that every lineman in the NFL would pass. I know because every lineman at my college passed the same test, and we had 300 pound fatties who were not in NFL shape. This is a basic test used by football programs all over the country. It is not that hard to pass if you really want to pass it.

  61. Missing the point people. Shanny is doing this hoping Albert blows his top, or storms out, giving them a reason to go after some of the money back, before they suspend him.

  62. This reminds me of that hockey movie “Miracle”. The coach makes them skate “suicides” til they start throwin up just to prove a point. This test really doesn’t mean anything because most of the guys on the team won’t pass it.

  63. Pockets Straight says:
    July 30, 2010 11:25 AM
    @realitypolice
    This is a test that every lineman in the NFL would pass. I know because every lineman at my college passed the same test, and we had 300 pound fatties who were not in NFL shape. This is a basic test used by football programs all over the country. It is not that hard to pass if you really want to pass it.
    =====================
    Marcellus Wiley, who I think knows a little more about playing in the NFL than either one of us, just stated on NFL Live that no NFL lineman over 300 pounds could pass that test or be expected to.

  64. PEOPLE …… doncha remember when Shanny at the podium 2 months ago said under his breath???? HE TOOK THE CHECK!!!!
    That’s when you KNEW he was gonna let El Fatto Alberto have it…….
    What does he think he’s Favre some star that can just walk into camp when he feels like it…..?????
    NO GO el Fatto!!!!!!! Mmmmm……you gonna eat that? Uh, el Fatto I JUST sat down to eat my 22 oz. sirloin you pig!!!!!!
    GMEN line will toy with el Fatto but we must wait until December 😦

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