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On Revis, Tannenbaum's hands apparently are tied

NFL_tannenbaum_250.jpgJets G.M. Mike Tannenbaum addressed with the media on Sunday the status of talks with cornerback Darrelle Revis.  One thing Tannenbaum didn’t say, presumably because he values his job, is that his hands have been tied by a reluctance/refusal on the part of ownership to authorize making the kind of offer that would get Revis to end his holdout and report for camp.

“Two
things that we all agreed upon is that Darrelle outplayed his contract and it
needed to be addressed and that he has three years to go on his contract,” Tannenbaum said.  “With
that said, we have to find something that works for both sides and we remain
committed to doing that.”

Tannenbaum also confirmed what Revis has contended throughout the offseason — that the Jets approached Revis about tearing up the final three years of his contract.

“The Tuesday after we lost
the Colts game [for the AFC title] we were in Mobile, AL [for the Senior Bowl] and we called his agent and said we have to
get something done,” Tannenbaum said.

Tannenbaum deftly avoided addressing the real problem that is preventing a deal (i.e., guaranteed money) by explaining only that the two sides can’t agree on total compensation.  On the surface, it’s hard for anyone to dispute that contention, because Revis has made it clear he wants to be paid 50 cents more than Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, who’s making $15.1 million per year. 

As we understand it, the long-term offers that the Jets have made to Revis include the same tools utilized by the team when signing tackle D’Brickashaw Ferguson to his long-term deal — namely, a hollow guarantee that does nothing to address Revis’ concern that a serious injury like the one running back Leon Washington suffered in 2009 would result in the Jets never paying him truly big money.

But there’s also a connection between guaranteed money and total compensation.  To get to the average Revis wants, the 30-percent rule and the reallocation rule compel the Jets to utilize the ultimate form of guaranteed money.  The signing bonus.

And that’s where Tannenbaum’s hands are tied.  (It only took us six paragraphs to get to the point.)  We’re told that owner Woody Johnson refuses to authorize Tannenbaum to extend the kind of signing bonus money necessary to get the deal done.

And so it all comes back to, in our view, a failure of communication at the time the Jets opted to let the renegotiation cat out of the bag.  They didn’t say — and they don’t claim they said — that the Asomugha contract is an aberration or that the 30-percent rule and the reallocation rule will limit as a practical matter what the Jets can do.

Then again, maybe they did.  And maybe the failure comes not from telling it to Revis, but from telling it to the rest of us.

Either way, it’s a mess.  And as we pointed out last night, Revis and his family (including his uncle, Sean Gilbert) are dug in.

“Darrelle’s actions spoke volumes,” agent Neil Schwartz told us by phone last night after declining to discuss the details of the situation, “and his current silence is deafening.”

That’s the one key point that hasn’t been emphasized in connection with the Revis holdout.  Though Revis did plenty of talking in June, he said nothing on Sunday.  Our guess is that he won’t be saying anything more, unless and until he’s sitting at a table answering questions about the new contract he just signed.

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44 Responses to “On Revis, Tannenbaum's hands apparently are tied”
  1. NYMets says: Aug 2, 2010 8:32 AM

    The Jets created this mess. Besides, I got a Revis Pro Bowl jersey during the off season to wear to the games.
    Revis is a whining baby, but SIGN THE GUY!

  2. PFTiswhatitis says: Aug 2, 2010 8:42 AM

    Show me the money!
    I don’t blame him. The Jets have shown how they handle injured players and their idea of loyalty.
    Ultimately, Woody will cave and give him the guarranteed money.

  3. joey-pickles says: Aug 2, 2010 8:44 AM

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, it took lawyers like Florio 6 months to pickup on many of the nuances of this final 8 plan and no CBA. To try and MMQB this thing in August from something that happened in February is just ridiculous.
    The Jets wanted to pay the man, and the man wanted to get paid. I’m not going to go over everything that transpired over the last 6 months but how was anyone to know then what has occurred now? This site posts clips daily that find new little nooks and crannies in the way teams can sign players this year.
    To presume one should have known all this 2 weeks after the 2009 season was over is just short sided at best and asinine at worst…

  4. GreenAsGrass says: Aug 2, 2010 8:47 AM

    Woody Johnson listens to his key guys, and nobody is more influential on his decision making than Tannenbaum. So I don’t believe for a minute that his hands are tied.
    If Mike tells Woody we need to pay Revis $30 million signing bonus, Woody will write the check. Question is, when will Mike get into his thick head that the defense scheme Rex uses is very good, but it would not be elite without Revis. And you need an elite defense to compete.

  5. JetsFan says: Aug 2, 2010 8:59 AM

    None of us knows what was really offered, or went on behind closed doors.
    It will cost the Jets 1-2 wins to lose Revis.
    All the same, they can’t give in to unreasonable demands.
    Let him sit, and don’t trade him, unless you can get comparable value.

  6. MrHumble says: Aug 2, 2010 9:01 AM

    This isn’t just about Revis, Woody Johnson and Jets mgmt. have screwed with players for years and years! No team promises more and delivers less to it’s players, and now it has even rubbed off to TRex…..promising a SB to Jets fans …..get ready for the implosion jets fans. Woody and Tannenbaum like Rex Ryan so well because he spreads the same kind of bullchit that they do…..guess that’s what you call a “company man”.

  7. Ytsejamer1 says: Aug 2, 2010 9:01 AM

    If I remember right, when Thomas Jones moved on…his wife came out and said the Jets were going to be in a world of hurt when it came to locking their guys up..because they’re all coming due at the same time…in addition to guys like Revis outplaying his contract, the front office opening their yaps saying one thing and then becoming an indian-giver, etc… She was spot on. This team while extremely talented now, is going to test Tannenbaum’s talent as a GM. My money (however little of it I have) is that he’ll be out of work in two years! :)

  8. Ravenmuscle says: Aug 2, 2010 9:03 AM

    Just as long as he sign’s AFTER the first game…then Raven Nation (America’s Team) is all for it.

  9. lowleadman says: Aug 2, 2010 9:04 AM

    When the coach comes out weekly in press conferences and says that Revis is not only the best cb in football, but may be the best player in the league, period, those words were sure to sink deeply into the mind of Revis and his agent.
    There’s a reason that coaches like Belicheck and others who “get it” keep words like that very close to the vest, while Jabba the Jet prefers the open book policy. Now, you have no choice but to pay the man to at least be the top cb, if not more.
    The Jets are on their way to a big time implosion this year. There will be no free passes like last year. If Revis does sign, Comratie will be exposed. If Revis holds out, the secondary will be in shambles.
    Looking forward to it!!!!!!!!!!!

  10. SomeFans says: Aug 2, 2010 9:04 AM

    It’s a sad day in newark… sad but typical. The insecure jests wiff at trying to fool him like they did with d’brick.
    Fool me once, shame on you
    Fool me twice… (foreclosure signs on revis island)

  11. Krow says: Aug 2, 2010 9:13 AM

    The Jets don’t need him. They’re stacked at every position. Might as well give them the Superbowl trophy now.

  12. Hawkeye says: Aug 2, 2010 9:18 AM

    Revis is just another in a long line of athletes that enough is never enough. Pay me .50 more then the Oakland corner? Ego, greed. And how did that work out for Oakland?

  13. The Real Shuxion says: Aug 2, 2010 9:19 AM

    Based on that picture his hands are sure as hell not tied into a salad.

  14. cbatchel says: Aug 2, 2010 9:23 AM

    With the Jets front office and coach telling Revis he outplayed his current contract and he was the best defensuive player in the league they didn’t do themselves any favors.
    Of course he is going to want a new deal with big money after hearing that. Espeacially since how the the Jets handle players that get hurt (ex. Leon Washington) that are due for a big pay raise.
    This could be a long holdout unless Jets finally decide to open up the checkbook.

  15. BroncosFan says: Aug 2, 2010 9:25 AM

    Tough spot for the Jets – very hard for a big-market team to justify contract hold-outs by key players in a no-cap year and with a players’ union whose key demand in the looming 2011 strike seems to be no cap ever again. Yet Revis is basically asking the Jets to pay for Al Davis’ insanity. Smart move on his part, and I expect the team to eventually cave.

  16. Terry says: Aug 2, 2010 9:28 AM

    It’s SuperBowl or bust time for Jets and they know it can’t be accomplished without their best player. Schwartz knows it;Revis knows it and of course Woody knows it(he just won’t admit it)….Hold out kid, they’ll pay you!

  17. realitypolice says: Aug 2, 2010 9:31 AM

    This post is too long. My ADD kicked in around paragraph 4.
    I’ll just say that if anyone thinks it’s fair that 7 DB’s on the Jets roster make more than Revis, they need professional help.

  18. hnirobert says: Aug 2, 2010 9:33 AM

    Maybe if the Jets showed some loyalty to Leon Washington instead of kicking him to the curb Revis would have a little more faith in them. Unfortunately you have side with these players considering the career ending injury risks they put their bodies through on a daily basis.

  19. BroncosFan says: Aug 2, 2010 9:34 AM

    Tough spot for the Jets – very hard for a big-market team to justify contract hold-outs by key players in a no-cap year and with a players’ union whose key demand in the looming 2011 strike seems to be no cap ever again. Yet Revis is basically asking the Jets to pay for Al Davis’ insanity. Smart move on his part, and I expect the team to eventually cave.

  20. Brick-Pride says: Aug 2, 2010 9:44 AM

    Ytsejamer1 says:
    August 2, 2010 9:01 AM
    If I remember right, when Thomas Jones moved on…his wife came out and said the Jets were going to be in a world of hurt when it came to locking their guys up..because they’re all coming due at the same time.
    I think it was Leon Washington’s wife, but yeah, she was quite correct. The Jets have like a dozen players whose contracts are up this year or who would certainly be looking for new deals.

  21. BigBear123 says: Aug 2, 2010 9:44 AM

    The money te pay is based on pro bowl performance. If he gets a Leon type injury and can’t play to pro bowl caliber that guaranteed money is a waste. Is it not?
    The whores ask for high salaries to compensate for the risk of injury and want guaranteed money on top of that in case they get a serious injury. Can’t perform your job at the high level nothing is guaranteed.
    Good for the Jets for taking a stand.

  22. Belichick for President says: Aug 2, 2010 9:49 AM

    Krow says:
    August 2, 2010 9:13 AM
    The Jets don’t need him. They’re stacked at every position. Might as well give them the Superbowl trophy now.
    LOL! One of the funniest posts on here.

  23. seatofmypants says: Aug 2, 2010 9:50 AM

    You guys are missing the bigger point here. Woody does not have the cash to pay such a signing bonus – that is where the issue is.
    How can i say that? Follow this logic.
    Giants and Jets are in the process of finalizing the building of their new stadium.
    This is a stadium built without the use of public funding – ergo they paid for it themselves.
    The Jets have had difficulty in selling their PSL’s. The Team has claimed that the money from PSL’s was for the stadium, not for operating expenses for the team, but there is one problem with that. The stadium still needs to be paid for. So, money that would have been available to operate the team, is now tied up in the building costs for the stadium.
    That is why the Jets are doing everything they can to market their team – Being on HBO, Signing big name (but washed up) players like LaDanian Tomlinson, having their coach crow in the media, etc…
    They need to sell their PSL’s. That is why they have cut the costs of them 2x.
    The Jet’s do not have the same fan base of the Giants, nor the winning tradition. There fans were unwilling (or unable) to spend the money for PSL’s.
    Until this is resolved, this is the problem they will have.

  24. Florio-is-a-tool says: Aug 2, 2010 9:53 AM

    tick, tick, tick…

  25. raider ju says: Aug 2, 2010 10:14 AM

    Revis needs to get to camp and leave his ego at home, he’s a nice player but if he played in a defense like Oakland he would be another Dangelo Hall if he played opposite Nnamdi. So suck it up and cry about that .50 another day.

  26. 8man says: Aug 2, 2010 10:15 AM

    Many teams are in this position. It’s magnified for the Jets because they are in New York, moving into a new crib and they are a sexy pick to win it all.
    It’ll be a lot harder without this guy to do it. There are high expectations and it’s not as if Ryan hasn’t been running his mouth. Tough call.

  27. Black QB White RB says: Aug 2, 2010 10:15 AM

    Why oh Why can’t Danny Snyder overpay for a guy like THIS instead of fata$$ can’t-pass-the-condotioning-test-Haynesworth!!!!!!!!
    I wish the Skins were stuck with a guy like this, our owner would pay him.
    Tannenbaum you need him. Get Woody on board and spend the money!!!!!!!!

  28. Ray Guy says: Aug 2, 2010 10:22 AM

    You sign a contract and you honor it. Simple.
    You perform better than expected and want to forget your contract and get more money. So you hold out.
    My question/statement is : “When these guys sign contracts and DON’T perform, do they offer to give the money back?”
    I didn’t think so.

  29. Rock48nj says: Aug 2, 2010 10:23 AM

    Loyalty to Leon Washington? Leon’s wife? … Leon’s people should take a hard look at themselves for the situation he found himself in. He had a more than fair deal on the table but passed with delusions of grandeur likely put in his head by Mr GMG himself. His agent is a total clown and its his own fault he had not agreed to a very fair deal for the type of player he is before getting hurt. Those that try to blame Leon’s situation on the organization are not looking at the complete picture.

  30. BenRapistberger says: Aug 2, 2010 10:23 AM

    realitypolice says:
    August 2, 2010 9:31 AM
    This post is too long. My ADD kicked in around paragraph 4.
    I’ll just say that if anyone thinks it’s fair that 7 DB’s on the Jets roster make more than Revis, they need professional help.
    ————————
    If you think 7 DBs on the roster are making more than him this year, you need some professional help. The guy was a top 15 pick, aside from MAYBE Cromartie (19th the year before), Kyle Wilson with his signing bonus, and MAAYYYYBBEEE Brodney Pool’s contract if it’s structured heavy this year, that puts Revis no lower than 4th.

  31. Tamicka Jackson says: Aug 2, 2010 10:27 AM

    Mike Tannenbaum is a sniffer who never played wiffle ball (never mind football) in his life. He is incompetent. Simply put, to say that he knows nothing is a compliment. If it wasn’t for a hostile coup by Mike Tannenbaum against Terry Bradway, he would be lucky to have a job selling life insurance to people in nursing homes.
    How do you have a billion dollar team/business investment run by someone who knows NOTHING! They backed into the playoffs as a one dimensional 500 team last year and it shows.
    Then they got OLDER AND SLOWER WITH FREE AGENCY AND SIGNED EVERYONE WITH AN OLD NAME WITH THE EXCEPTION OF LAWRENCE TAYLOR (they might even try to sign him before the year is out).
    Rex Ryan should fire Mike Tannenbaum before Mike Tannenbaum throws him under the bus like he did to Bradway, Coach Mangini, and others in the organization. There is a clear history here.
    Tamicka

  32. Calir says: Aug 2, 2010 10:54 AM

    So Revis is looking for a huge contract that covers him, and not the team, if he has a season or career ending injury. Sounds a little one sided and selfish to me. I’m positive the Jets have offered him a nice raise but have also said they don’t do “Raider” contracts.

  33. geo1113 says: Aug 2, 2010 10:59 AM

    @Tamicka
    You do know that GMs hire and fire coaches not the other way around!

  34. Krow says: Aug 2, 2010 11:00 AM

    Once they pocket a few consecutive Superbowls no one will care.

  35. raider ju says: Aug 2, 2010 11:01 AM

    Revis needs to get to camp and leave his ego at home, he’s a nice player but if he played in a defense like Oakland he would be another Dangelo Hall if he played opposite Nnamdi. So suck it up and cry about that .50 another day.

  36. realitypolice says: Aug 2, 2010 11:05 AM

    BenRapistberger says:
    August 2, 2010 10:23 AM
    If you think 7 DBs on the roster are making more than him this year, you need some professional help. The guy was a top 15 pick, aside from MAYBE Cromartie (19th the year before), Kyle Wilson with his signing bonus, and MAAYYYYBBEEE Brodney Pool’s contract if it’s structured heavy this year, that puts Revis no lower than 4th.
    ======================
    Take it up with Adam Schefter, not me. He reported on Mike and Mike this morning that 7 DB’s currently on the Jets roster will earn more than Revis this year.
    I’m sure he is referring to 2010 salary, not overall contract value.
    But my ADD will kick in again long before I can do the research to prove it, so if you really care that much, do it yourself.

  37. afogg0855 says: Aug 2, 2010 11:14 AM

    @Ray Guy
    Are you kidding me?? Athletes sign contracts that don’t get honored by the team every day in the NFL. The second they think you’re overvalued they will cut your ass and you’ll be looking for a new job.
    So I say more power to the players to get what they can, when they can get it. Because the NFL generates billions and guys like Revis are the reason.

  38. realitypolice says: Aug 2, 2010 11:16 AM

    Ray Guy says:
    August 2, 2010 10:22 AM
    You sign a contract and you honor it. Simple.
    You perform better than expected and want to forget your contract and get more money. So you hold out.
    My question/statement is : “When these guys sign contracts and DON’T perform, do they offer to give the money back?”
    I didn’t think so.
    ===================
    His contract doesn’t say he is required under penalty of law to play football. It just says that if he wants to play football and get paid for it, it has to be with the Jets. So, by not playing football and not getting paid by anyone else to play football, he is not violating the terms of his contract.
    He has already forfeited the last two gauranteed years of his contact by not showing up. So he has paid the penalty spelled out in his contract for holding out. Pretty cut and dried, actually.
    Why do we hold players to such a higher standard of accountability than owners when it comes to contracts, which owners can walk away from anytime they want to, and do hundreds of times a year?

  39. bobbyd12 says: Aug 2, 2010 11:45 AM

    Couldn’t happen to a better organization. Between PSLs they can’t sell, Manatee Rex Ryan never shutting up and one of the worst fan bases in the country who never stop talking sh@t, even after 40 plus years of losing and collapse. Nothing gives me more pleasure in the NFL then watching it fall apart for the Jets year after year. Jets/Mets/Nets the Triplets of losing year round.

  40. spudz says: Aug 2, 2010 11:55 AM

    with or without Revis….8 – 8

  41. FinFan68 says: Aug 2, 2010 12:15 PM

    @spudz
    they need revis to get to 8-8. without him they are no better than 7-9

  42. kev86 says: Aug 2, 2010 12:48 PM

    damned if they do, damned if the dont.
    that’s a lot of cabbage for a corner.
    jets are a mess. always have been.
    Can we get a tally on how many AFC EAST titles the jets have won?

  43. NewYorkSackExchange2010 says: Aug 2, 2010 1:02 PM

    kev86 says:
    August 2, 2010 12:48 PM
    damned if they do, damned if the dont.
    that’s a lot of cabbage for a corner.
    jets are a mess. always have been.
    Can we get a tally on how many AFC EAST titles the jets have won?
    4 to be exact, here is an excerpt from Revis’s uncle wikipedia page…
    Panthers
    The Redskins traded Gilbert to the Carolina Panthers in 1998 for the Panthers’ first round picks in 1999 and 2000. On April 21, 1998, the trade became final when he signed an offer sheet for a seven-year contract worth $46.5 million. Gilbert returned to RDE in 1998 and recorded 53 tackles and 6 sacks, starting all 16 games. In 1999 and 2000 Gilbert moved to his preferred right defensive tackle position and averaged 50 tackles and 3 sacks during those two seasons. In 2001 Gilbert switched to left defensive tackle and recorded 25 tackles and 2 sacks. He was injured and played in only nine games (starting all of them).
    Gilbert broke his right hip on October 27, 2002 during a game versus the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and missed the last eight games of the season. Gilbert totaled only 5 tackles during the injury-shortened season.
    The giving up of two first-round picks and paying Gilbert over $6 million a year was called a “debacle” by ESPN who reported that Former Panthers coach Dom Capers regretted that move, stating:
    “Sometimes you get in a desperate situation and you don’t ever want to be in a desperate situation. You make decisions based on the fact that you don’t have anybody in a position as opposed to being able to sit back and make long-term decisions that you think would be best for the organization.” But Capers quickly realized he had sacrificed too much of Carolina’s future for Gilbert. “There was a lot of discussion on that and my initial reaction was that it was too much,” he said.[9]
    On March 10, 2003, the Panthers released Gilbert.
    I hope Rex & Tanny have read this.

  44. KoaMisiFan says: Aug 2, 2010 4:08 PM

    “The Jets created this mess. Besides, I got a Revis Pro Bowl jersey during the off season to wear to the games.”
    Wow, I have some jests jerseys hanging on a roll next to my toilet.
    I’m confused. I kept reading from the jests fans that the front office DIDN’T approach Revis. They kept saying how the only one who said it was Revis himself. Hmmmmm, guess that shows the intelligence of the jests fans.

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