Packers safety Atari Bigby missed the Packers’ entire offseason program as he resisted signing his restricted free agency tender. When he signed the tender last week and showed up, he was asked to take a conditioning test. While doing so, he injured an ankle that previously had been surgically repaired.
As it turns out, he’ll be having surgery again. (As best we can tell, the looming surgery was first reported by Greg Bedard of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.)
A league source tells us that, on Friday, Dr. Robert Anderson will perform an arthroscopic procedure on Bigby’s ankle. Bigby is expected to miss a few weeks.
A couple of years ago, Bigby was emerging as one of the top young safeties in the game. Since then, injuries have prevented him from fulfilling his potential.
This isn’t good depth-wise, but Burnett was going to be the starter reguardless.
another big blow to the packers, losing a starting safety after already losing a starting olb not to mention losing 2 starters from last year in kampman and jolly. the packers pass d was in enough trouble as it is without having to start a rookie safety.
it seems like this team has been in a freefall since losing favre, it’s like karma or a curse. what next, the underwood case blows up and matthews steroid use catches up to him??
He’ll heal faster than Grandaddy Gross Text.
BrentFavre says:
August 5, 2010 12:17 PM
This isn’t good depth-wise, but Burnett was going to be the starter reguardless.
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There is NO way you could have any idea that was going to happen, none.
Why are you packer fans so full of conjecture?
You are all full of shit, you wouldn’t think there would be any room for anything else.
YO bra, love that link u sent me http://sportscomplainer.com , i found one for you its sportspickle.com bye now
Kampman didn’t play the 2nd half of the season and that’s when the Packers went 7-1. So they were actually worse with him in there.
Thats unfortunate. The Packers are living up to their trademark of having more holes than swiss cheese. Thats too bad considering all the preseason hype. I guess more domestic abuse call centers will have to be managed full-time.
Starting safety? Hardly.
TT looks like a genius again.
First anticipating Jolly, now Bigby.
Gravy makes sconnies fat:
“another big blow to the packers, losing a starting safety after already losing a starting olb not to mention losing 2 starters from last year in kampman and jolly. the packers pass d was in enough trouble as it is without having to start a rookie safety. ”
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You should really try and follow the packers before you spout off nonsense. Kampman was let go because Brad Jones was picket to be the starter and Morgan Burnett was going to start over Bigby anyways. Burnett is much more skilled than Bigby in coverage.
Of course you would know this if you actually followed football instead of throwing out misinformed statements.
Seems like 2 players from different teams have ankle problems, one will be back the other is full of lies. One is on a team with a winning future and a pro bowl young qb, the other is… well pretty much done.
sweet name Atari Bigby … my name is Dreamcast Jones
Morgan Burnett? Your table is ready.
Who names their kid “Atari”? Somebody musta been really into Missile Command!
Teams in the NFL that are in a ‘freefall’ don’t make the playoffs & don’t lead the NFL in point differential. They are usually teams with 4 or 5 wins.
Depth is very important in the NFL so losing players is never a good thing. However I think Bigby was a below average starting safety last season and it showed up in the big games. If this new kid can be average the Packers take a step up at strong safety.
I also think Vikings fans in particular highly overrate Johnny Jolly as a player. He was good against the run & could bat balls down. Other than that he gave absolutely nothing when it came to a pass rush. The Packers will be better off seeing what Rajii can do.
Also, the surgery is reportedly just a scope, he’ll be back soon enough.
This is a non-story. The only thing that matters in Green Bay is how far the Vikings get this year and this injury will not affect that. Packers secondary is amazing anyways, just ask Warner.
“Kampman was let go”
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! kampman was one of the better 43 de’s in the league and would have brought alot in trade value if the gay vampire wasn’t such an idiot and tried to force him into a role he wasn’t suited for. and he wasn’t “let go”, you lost him in free agency and got nothing in return.
you guys had no pass rush last year and now even your 7th round draft pick olb is hurt. there is no way your defense can avoid being even worse than it was last season. you’ll be giving up 50 pts a game regularly.
No big deal, he sucked so bad last season that the Vikings were considering a trade to get him, which speaks to the poor secondary that they currently have.
Packers have a good draft pick that is ready to fill in and he hasn’t texted any x rated stuff like other members of the NFL, we will be fine.
Bigby was solid…was. last year was a let down and as many people have already reiterated he was gonna lose his starting job anyways…if only Al Harris could have a seas…career ending injury. we might be forced to make a move for a contributor on the secondary. cause Woody didnt work out…
@Walleyeman – what does that even mean?
@Gravy boy – ha. double ha. see you in the SB
P.S. – vikes still suck
“TT looks like a genius again.”
yeah he has a genius for making bad draft picks and then being too cheap to use free agency to cover for his bad draft picks. that’s why your team set a record for sacks allowed last season and had no pass rush.
and since he never signs free agents you’ve got the same team as you had last year aside from draft picks which every team gets, except other teams draft better than the gay vampire.
there’s a reason why the packers only have 2 winning seasons and 1 playoff win in the last 5 years and it’s called ted thompson. he is the best friend of every other team in the nfc north.
“you guys had no pass rush last year and now even your 7th round draft pick olb is hurt. there is no way your defense can avoid being even worse than it was last season. you’ll be giving up 50 pts a game regularly.”
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Clay had 10 sacks despite missing the first 4 games due to a hammy. Brad Jones ( who has 4 sakc in 6 games) returned to practice today, chump.
The Packers do need a better pass rush, but they have the tools in place to do it.
Jones is hurt? He was practicing today.
Stop being such a 12 year old. It’s more annoying than usual.
Gravy couldn’t sound any more stupid. Kampman was a joke of a linebacker. The packers have been in freefall since losing Favre??? Are you retarded??? Rodgers had the best first two seasons as a starter than any other quarterback in history. Packers are primed to make a run at a Superbowl. Burnett seems to have much more potential that Bigby ever did. Go watch a Packers practice before you start saying the Packers are in freefall. Packers have ballhawks on defense and are a force on offense. They finally have some depth at the o-line position and J-Finley is on his way to the probowl.
we sacked rodgers 14 times last season and your d didn’t even touch favre. i’m not trying to criticize i just don’t want to see you guys get your hopes up again and then be disappointed again like the last couple years.
Don’t mind Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat fellas. He’s just a little pissed off today cause he never got one of Brett’s “special” text messages.
“Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says:
August 5, 2010 1:08 PM
we sacked rodgers 14 times last season”
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And yet he still managed to put up 739 yards (including rushing), 5 TD, a 109.55 passer rating in those two games. Imagine what he’ll do to your secondary if Cliffy and Tauscher are healthy and he dosen’t get sacked. Oohhh man.
“He’ll heal faster than Grandaddy Gross Text.”
Hilarious
Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat
We lost Kampman in free agnecy on purpose. Why sign a 43 de to play in the 34? I guess we could have done a sign and trade but this isn’t the NBA.
Bigby was injured most of last year and where did we finish in defensive rankings? Oh thats right….
Green Bay was not even close to the all time record for a QB being sacked last season. That distinction belongs to the 1986 Eagles team. Kampman was a great 4-3 player, not a 3-4 player so he was no loss on the field. I guess i thought having one of the most prolific offenses in the league meant we were on the rise instead of a downfall. Thanks for clearing that up for me, Gravy.
ya because you haven’t been disappointed every year forever as a vikings fan ??? lol
“it seems like this team has been in a freefall since losing favre”
Hahahahaha!
What world are you living in!
“Don’t mind Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat fellas. He’s just a little pissed off today cause he never got one of Brett’s “special” text messages. ”
Comment of the day!
Hang it up, kid. For your own good…hate to have to embarass you again….
Gravy,
Kinda like you getting your hopes up if favre returns? Your entire season depends on one guy. Only you Viking fans think you’ll make it into the playoffs without him. All of the NFL analysts Picked you to not even make the playoffs the other day when the favre retirement story came out. Hell, even Vegas experts don’t think too highly of the vikings. When that all came out, they immediately picked the packers to win the division. But I guess Viking fans are smarter than the sports betting experts. For a team that you all think is going downhill, Vegas sure thinks pretty highly of the packers. And quit with the idiotic comments about losing kampman. We were clearly better without him. He wasn’t meant for the 3-4. I agree Thompson was dumb for not trading him, but it is what it is now. Brad Jones looked damn good last season when he took over. Al Harris is old and hasn’t been starting caliber for the past few seasons now. Your defensive backs are beat up and average at best. That’s your Achilles heal of your team, so you have nothing to brag about. Of course you’ll have 15 sacks against us when we had daryn colledge playing out of position. When clifton and tausher came back, rodgers was barely sacked.
Packers are in a free fall? Wow, that’s gotta be the stupidest thing I’ve heard yet.
At least we have a QB in camp, and a non-disgruntled RB that holds onto the ball, and a nice stadium, and some trophies, and dignity…etc. God I could go on forever.
How are all the injuries in the Vikings secondary working out for ya? Funny how you criticize a unit far superior to you own.
Brad Jones back in practice btw, gotta love people who make such a huge deal out of training camp injuries.
Gonna be another intresting year for the Vikes w/ the Favre scandal about to come out. Classiest Franchise Ever.
Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says:
August 5, 2010 12:21 PM
another big blow to the packers, losing a starting safety after already losing a starting olb not to mention losing 2 starters from last year in kampman and jolly. the packers pass d was in enough trouble as it is without having to start a rookie safety.
it seems like this team has been in a freefall since losing favre, it’s like karma or a curse. what next, the underwood case blows up and matthews steroid use catches up to him??
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You just keep repeating that. Maybe it’ll make it true.
Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says:
August 5, 2010 12:57 PM
yeah he has a genius for making bad draft picks and then being too cheap to use free agency to cover for his bad draft picks. that’s why your team set a record for sacks allowed last season and had no pass rush.
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Idiot, what record did they set? David Carr took 76 sacks in his rookie season.
The only sacks you know about are the ones resting on your chin.
Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says:
August 5, 2010 12:57 PM
yeah he has a genius for making bad draft picks and then being too cheap to use free agency to cover for his bad draft picks. that’s why your team set a record for sacks allowed last season and had no pass rush.
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Well gravy at least you’re consistantly wrong.
No pass rush? The Packers may not have had a dominant pass rush last season but they were in the top 1/3.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=OPP&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=SACKS&season=2009&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go
How is his cousin Sega-Genesis doing?
gravy made gravy fat, he’s posting so much because he’s a virgin.
Bigby’s surgery is no big loss to the Pack. The guy was over-rated when he was healthy, was lousy in pass coverage, and seemed to lead the Pack defense in stupid penalties. The rookie Burnett will have a pro bowler next to him to cover his ass when he inevitably screws up. It does seem like the Pack defensive depth is being eaten away more every day though.
I love all the posts about how these losses are going to hurt the team. Fact is Jolly while good, as not the best fit for our D and is beeing replaced without much of a yawn. Bigby, while he showed up for a few games has not exactly been a great player and we have already drafter a young gun that was looking to replace him as the started before this. Cant say as if we have lost anyone that will really be missed. Just adds more deapth when they return.
Am I the only one who thinks Bigby was injured long before he took his conditioning test? Makes perfect sense. Hold out for more money because you want the payday now and you want more time to let the injury heal itself. Then come back and blame the test for it, and go out of your way to say it wasn’t a problem prior to the test?
Me thinks he doth protest too much.
Nice to see some Vikes fans on here being objective, as I try to be on stories about the purple.
Lets face it Bigby and Harris are pretty much done. But, Charlie Heisman had his best offseason workouts and looking to continue to be a huge defensive asset. No worries here.
# MACK DADDY says: August 5, 2010 1:20 PM
Don’t mind Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat fellas. He’s just a little pissed off today cause he never got one of Brett’s “special” text messages.
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# Adam-Chris Schefterson says: August 5, 2010 1:58 PM
Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says:
August 5, 2010 12:57 PM
yeah he has a genius for making bad draft picks and then being too cheap to use free agency to cover for his bad draft picks. that’s why your team set a record for sacks allowed last season and had no pass rush.
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Idiot, what record did they set? David Carr took 76 sacks in his rookie season.
The only sacks you know about are the ones resting on your chin.
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Epic Win
his lil brother ‘tendo is the real deal.
RC IV says:
August 5, 2010 12:29 PM
There is NO way you could have any idea that was going to happen, none.
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Can you name any person in this world that could, besides Carnac the Magnificent? And do you have any ideas of your own while we are on the subject, or is this whiny sneery complaining all this site will ever see out of you? Why waste your time (and ours?)
Bigby sucks anyway….consider it a break Pack losers…..
How can you tell if you are at Ted Thompson’s house?
The welcome mat reads ‘Please wipe Your Knees!’
Ted and Aaron were on a sunny beach. Aaron said, “Shall I put the umbrella up?” “Yes,” replied Ted, “But don’t open it, I’m a bit sore!”
fine just don’t come running back to me when the packers pass rush and pass coverage sucks again and be going “Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat, why didn’t you WARN us???!!” because i won’t have any sympathy for you. i’m through trying to help you people.
“Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat, why didn’t you WARN us???!!” because i won’t have any sympathy for you. i’m through trying to help you people.”
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I hear you, and I really appreciate the warning. Kind of like when I warned you that if you are a pimple-faced, 19 year old virgin with no wit, knowledge or charisma, and no love even from your own family, you might as well jump off the Washington Ave bridge now. Just trying to save you 65 years of suffering. All my regards for the fair warning you gave us on the Packers. It means a lot coming from a man of your experience and intelligence.
Ruvell100 says: August 5, 2010 5:32 PM
Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat, why didn’t you WARN us???!!
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i TRIED to warn you, i begged you to listen over and over about how bad the packers but you wouldn’t listen. i can’t help you to understand how bad the packers are unless you help me to help you understand how bad the packers are.
good god man, in the name of all that is holy, come to your senses while there’s still time and stop being a packer fan or at least admit that they’re not very good. this is your last warning.
# BrentFavre says: August 5, 2010 12:35 PM
Gravy makes sconnies fat:
“another big blow to the packers, losing a starting safety after already losing a starting olb not to mention losing 2 starters from last year in kampman and jolly. the packers pass d was in enough trouble as it is without having to start a rookie safety. ”
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You should really try and follow the packers before you spout off nonsense. Kampman was let go because Brad Jones was picket to be the starter and Morgan Burnett was going to start over Bigby anyways. Burnett is much more skilled than Bigby in coverage.
Of course you would know this if you actually followed football instead of throwing out misinformed statements.
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This BabyGravy chump thinks he know what he is talking about……He was not long ago spewing stats that we have not made the playoffs post-Favre. Just remember, Favre went 4-12 in a season as Pack’ QB(With 29 INT’s—so don’t place the blame elsewhere!), A-Rod has never done that beeyotchhh! Wasn’t everyone ragging on Cutler for 27 int’s?
29!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tool.
Ambrose says:
August 5, 2010 4:15 PM
RC IV says:
August 5, 2010 12:29 PM
There is NO way you could have any idea that was going to happen, none.
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Can you name any person in this world that could, besides Carnac the Magnificent? And do you have any ideas of your own while we are on the subject, or is this whiny sneery complaining all this site will ever see out of you? Why waste your time (and ours?)
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Yeah gramps, my idea is that its funny to listen to you packer turds listing the players gone and how ” who cares” burnett’s better than Bigby, Jones thab Kampmann and whoever is better than Jolly.
It’s ludicrous to even say things like that. You don’t know, even if they are, the team loses depth. Injuries and losses of players DO hurt teams. But, you wouldn’t know that from Packer fans, every back-up is a peo bowler in waiting. It’s stupid and you know it.
As for my “whiny posts” , well i used to try and converse in a civil fashion and have intelligent talks with people on here. It’s virtually impossible now, so I just try to have fun and roust people a bit. I am on a different site for my “serious” football talk.
On here, I’m just out to irritate. Evidently, I’m good at it.
yeah seriously i can promise you that mcfatboy did NOT want to lose a starter and have to start a 3rd round draft pick at safety. the packers wouldn’t have put a high tender on bigby if they didn’t want him and NOBODY wants to have to start a 3rd round draft pick at safety especially when their 2ndary sucked so bad last year.
it’s never good to not bring good starters back and kampman and jolly were good, the gay vampire could’ve gotten at least a 2nd round pick for kampman if he traded him before last season instead of being so lazy and retarded and trying to fit him into a scheme he didn’t fit into.
and then after not signing any free agents to patch the holes in the 2ndary and pass rush, you now lose your starting safety. this is horrible, horrible news for the packers as they desperately try to reverse the post-favre freefall/curse of the packers.
RC IV says:
August 6, 2010 8:48 AM
Yeah gramps, my idea is that its funny to listen to you packer turds listing the players gone and how ” who cares” burnett’s better than Bigby, Jones thab Kampmann and whoever is better than Jolly.
It’s ludicrous to even say things like that. You don’t know, even if they are, the team loses depth. Injuries and losses of players DO hurt teams. But, you wouldn’t know that from Packer fans, every back-up is a peo bowler in waiting. It’s stupid and you know it.
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For the most part, I agree with this. I think Jolly will have the biggest impact, though. Bigby’s play was up and down when he was even on the field. Kampman was fairly ineffective before his injury and they went without him for several games last year. Jolly was the best player on that D-line last season, in my opinion. Maybe Raji will step in and do well, maybe not.
But it also goes both ways. Idiots like Gravy Boy are painting a doom and gloom picture for the Packers because of a safety who didn’t play very well, a converted LB who didn’t fit the scheme and a Dlineman in jail… Meanwhile, it’s all sunshine and roses in the land of 10,000 lakes without Brett Favre (and not even knowing whether he’s going to play), without Sidney Rice, without Adrian Peterson. Wait a minute… Weren’t those the three biggest pieces of the offense last year? I can’t even imagine what Gravy’d be saying if the Packers were missing Rodgers, Jennings and Grant from their “not horrible” offense.
There’s rubes and idiots on both sides. And as far as I can see, Ambrose was just suggesting Burnett was going to win the starting job anyway. That’s a far cry from the idiocy being spouted by the Gravy Boat.
Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says:
August 6, 2010 10:18 AM
yeah seriously i can promise you that mcfatboy did NOT want to lose a starter and have to start a 3rd round draft pick at safety. the packers wouldn’t have put a high tender on bigby if they didn’t want him and NOBODY wants to have to start a 3rd round draft pick at safety especially when their 2ndary sucked so bad last year.
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Yeah, they wouldn’t have put a high tender on Bigby if they didn’t want him. Then again, they DIDN’T put the high tender on Bigby. They put the 2nd level tender on him.
Once again with “the secondary sucks”, huh? Let me lay this out for you one more time.
2009 Packers passing yards allowed: 5th in the league
2009 Vikings passing yards allowed: 19th in the league
2009 Packers opposing QB rating: 4th in the league (68.8 – equivalent to Mike Tomczak’s career passer rating)
2009 Vikings opposing QB rating: 27th in the league (92.5 – equivalent to Joe Montana or Drew Brees’ career passer rating)
Do you think it’s better for your defense to make every QB look like Mike Tomczak or Joe Montana?
2009 Packers’ defensive MVPs: 1
2009 Vikings’ defensive MVPs: 0
I hope the Packers’ secondary sucks in 2010 like they did in 2009.
Adam-Chris Schefterson says:
“I hope the Packers’ secondary sucks in 2010 like they did in 2009.”
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“Me too, I hope the Packers’ secondary sucks in 2010 like they did in 2009.”
Love your stats – fell asleep half way through them.
How about stats that actually mean a little something.
2009 Packers opposing QB rating vs. Minnesota Vikings
Brett Favre QB rating vs. Packers in game 1 135.3
Brett Favre QB rating vs. Packers in game 2 128.6
But enough of the regular season. How about the playoffs when the Packers’ secondary collapsed when it mattered most.
Kurt Warner did pretty much whatever he wanted in the passing game, going 29/33 for 379 yards and 5 touchdowns.
Let me lay this out for you…
Warner had a 88% completion percentage against the Packers – who also gave up 156 rushing yards to a Cardinals team that had not run the ball well all year.
Packer stats – as twisted as the fans.