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Denver could try to stick it to Dumervil

So the fact that Broncos linebacker Elvis Dumervil suffered a likely season-ending torn pectoral muscle not long after inking a six-year deal that guarantees him $43 million means that he’ll get the $43 million, right?

Not necessarily.

A league source points out to us that, even though Dumervil’s contract is fully guaranteed against injury, there’s a potential scenario in which Dumervil simply won’t get the bulk of the money.

Players receive money that’s guaranteed for injury only if they can’t pass a physical.  Many players have serious injuries, the injuries heal, they pass a physical, and then at some point they injure the area again.  (See, e.g., Atari Bigby.)

So, as the source explains it, the Broncos could determine in the future that Dumervil is healthy — and then the Broncos could cut him before the first day of the next league year, when $14 million of his base salary for 2011 and another $14 million of his base salary for 2012 become guaranteed for skill. 

We’re not saying that the Broncos will dump Dumervil before the first day of the next league year.  We’re saying that they can, if they so choose.

And while such a move would allow Dumervil to hit the open market, who will give him $28 million guaranteed for injury and skill given that he missed all of 2010 with an injury?

That’s why there’s only one truly guaranteed form of guaranteed money.  A signing bonus.  It’s why guys like Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis aren’t interested in $100 million in non-guaranteed base salaries, and why they want to maximize the signing bonus they receive.  That way, if Revis tears an ACL or rips a pec or breaks a leg, the bulk of the money will be guaranteed because the money already will be in his bank account.

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36 Responses to “Denver could try to stick it to Dumervil”
  1. milehiclown says: Aug 5, 2010 1:29 PM

    It is gonna be impossible to get free agents in there if they pull a stunt like that.
    Joshy sure has his work cut out for him.

  2. milehiclown says: Aug 5, 2010 1:30 PM

    Start Tebow, please.

  3. 11-5 in 2010 chiefs fan says: Aug 5, 2010 1:31 PM

    The donkey’s are in big trouble this season… I don’t see them winning more then 3 Games maybe 5… Go Chiefs!!!

  4. sacdaddy says: Aug 5, 2010 1:32 PM

    What a tough sport man.. it’s crazy to think how much lazy ass baseball players get guaranteed. Props to Jeff Smarsdia for choosing the right league for the money and the health.

  5. plax18 says: Aug 5, 2010 1:36 PM

    whatever happen to the “signing bonus” in sports? all you hear about these days is guaranteed money

  6. jcjets says: Aug 5, 2010 1:40 PM

    Ohhhhhh. So I guess his deal isn’t so much better than D’Brick’s after all.
    And which FA this offseason has received big signing bonus money?

  7. HarrisonHits says: Aug 5, 2010 1:41 PM

    “That way, if Revis tears an ACL or rips a pec or breaks a leg, the bulk of the money will be guaranteed because the money already will be in his bank account. ”
    So just because the players want a situation in which the teams get totally screwed if the player is injured they should get it right ?
    If it turns out Dumervil is never the same once he heals he’s already been paid more than enough to live comfortably for the rest of his life, and why should the team be on the hook for another 28 mil if that’s the case ?
    Oh the horror these multi-millionaires face every day. That they might have to actually be careful with some of the money they’ve already been paid so they can protect themselves against injury ?

  8. Allan says: Aug 5, 2010 1:43 PM

    Seriously, does no one edit the articles before they are posted? I am willing to let the occassional typographical error slip, but it happens on nearly every post.

  9. Hap says: Aug 5, 2010 1:48 PM

    The RedSkinneds will give it to him. That would make 2 mega-mega-million hurt would be, could be’s on their roster.

  10. Roscoe P. Coaltrain says: Aug 5, 2010 1:53 PM

    This conditioning coach needs to be brought on the carpet. There is far too many injuries this early. Or mcd doesn’t know how to run camp! Or both. Wait till tebow gets hurt and out for the season. You might as well blackout all their games!!! And fools want an 18 game regular season??? Top vets can’t get thru camp. WTF

  11. gooboy6 says: Aug 5, 2010 1:57 PM

    thats a bad precedent to start …

  12. ijr213 says: Aug 5, 2010 1:58 PM

    Well, McDaniels isn’t exactly the best a relationship management, so under normal circumstances this would be a 5% chance, but with him, you’re looking at 20%. Good luck to the Broncos, it’s been tough going under McDaniels so far.

  13. BRUTUS9448 says: Aug 5, 2010 2:01 PM

    too bad mcdaniels won’t be there next year to see what happens. Mcdosche will be cut himself

  14. DRex says: Aug 5, 2010 2:01 PM

    Why do you continue to post fantasy land possibilities???
    The Broncos are not going to cut Dumervil. Same concept with the retarded Revis talk. Even if Revis were to get hurt with a once in a lifetime Leon Washington type injury, the Jets still would not cut him for the simple reason is that he’s too good to allow him to go somewhere else.
    Dumervil has a torn pec. He’s going to get all of that money because he’s too good to cut considering a torn pec is no big deal.

  15. jj jones says: Aug 5, 2010 2:03 PM

    Hey, at least they have the top selling jersey in the league. Soooo….

  16. Polorl69 says: Aug 5, 2010 2:03 PM

    Plax
    they only talk about “guaranteed money” in football because it’s the only sport that doesn’t have guaranteed contracts..they can cut you AND stop paying you at any time. Signing bonus is guaranteed money. but they will sometimes spread a “signing bonus” out over 2-3 season.

  17. heartstl says: Aug 5, 2010 2:06 PM

    start Tebow @ OLB

  18. SeriousRadio says: Aug 5, 2010 2:11 PM

    This article is complete fabrication and BS. I bet Florio had a lot of cases dismissed for fraud. He must have had a few pissed off clients.

  19. SomeFans says: Aug 5, 2010 2:14 PM

    Even if Revis were to get hurt with a once in a lifetime Leon Washington type injury, the Jets still would not cut him for the simple reason is that he’s too good to allow him to go somewhere else.?———————————
    Gotta be the dumbest comment so far… typical jet trollit . Maybe I missed but this article has nothing to do with the not yets, right?

  20. bspurloc says: Aug 5, 2010 2:15 PM

    did favre send him naked pics too?

  21. tacious says: Aug 5, 2010 2:16 PM

    @ Plax18… it’s called greed… rather than go and work for it, they gotta have it all now… it’s a sorry symton of this ever-evolving “me” generation.
    @ HarrisonHits… you make a great point!
    This situation only makes me side with the team/ ownership more… why the hell do I want my team potentially wasting money on injured players that can’t contribute?
    As well, this continual pity party that Florio so loves to insite needs to stop… It’s not my, yours, or the teams fault if these athletes can’t save their cash… it’s not our fault if they CHOOSE to go out and blow their millions away on cars, houses, parties, real estate, etc… it’s nobody’s fault but their own.
    You think if Revis got $40mm guaranteed, then went out and suffered a Bo Jackson-esque career ending injury the first day back at training camp he’d offer to return any of the money after never having to have performed on the contract? Hell no… he’d take the money and run… so why should we feel good about paying these guys all this cash?

  22. Marty says: Aug 5, 2010 2:18 PM

    I think they may as well go ahead and start Tebow. At QB.

  23. jas7n says: Aug 5, 2010 2:19 PM

    “Why do you continue to post fantasy land possibilities???”
    lmao DRex, i was gonna post something but you took the words right out of my mouth. it makes him feel smart and important. like an independent thinker coming up with angles no one else sees. problem is he only sees them because they’re dumb as h*ll and no one else would waste their time on ideas like that lol
    besides Dumervil being good, the grievances they’d face and the fact that no one would ever sign with the Broncos again after some crap like that… i mean come on. a lot of things MIGHT happen but common sense and circumstances often dictate that the chances are so small, they’re not worth considering.

  24. AlphaQ2 says: Aug 5, 2010 2:27 PM

    The guy led the league in sacks. It’s not like he injured his wheels. It’s a peck. I’d be shocked if they cut Dumervil.

  25. Douchebaggery says: Aug 5, 2010 2:34 PM

    Give me a break

  26. lawdjayee says: Aug 5, 2010 2:38 PM

    I’ve been confused about guarantees since the first posts re: Ferguson’s contract. The “guarantees” for skill and injury only apply if the player is still on the team, right? Why are they specified? Is it (or was it) common for NFL contracts to, e.g., establish different salary levels for a player depending on how many games the player is the starter at his position? Or are the Dumerville/Ferguson contracts a good example of how the skill and injury guarantees are typically used (to allow the team outs in the contract), and is that the more common usage? I’ve just never heard about contracts splitting these hairs before.

  27. BroncFanOr says: Aug 5, 2010 2:40 PM

    OMG Denver POSSIBLY loses one player for the season and it’s all over. How can they ever expect to win with a DE/OLB missing in the lineup. That’s almost like losing your STARTING QB. What a tragedy. BLAH BLAH BLAH.
    Oh and as for the CHEFS fan predicting doom and gloom for Denver. you might want to tend your own pathetic run down house first.

  28. allinSTACKme says: Aug 5, 2010 2:56 PM

    11-5 in 2010 chiefs fan says:
    August 5, 2010 1:31 PM
    The donkey’s are in big trouble this season… I don’t see them winning more then 3 Games maybe 5… Go Chiefs!!!
    ————————————————–
    Well, as a Chiefs fan, you would know about 10+ loss seasons. As your name suggests, you are an idiot. Your predicitons show your intelligence. Enjoy the cellar again losers

  29. Philly Cheese says: Aug 5, 2010 3:03 PM

    Once again, we get an article about some ridiculous shit that will never happen in a million years so Florio can side-step writing an article that actually has something to do with football.

  30. Thingamajig says: Aug 5, 2010 3:08 PM

    Mike: Looks like a whole lot of “ifs” in this story.

  31. lawdjayee says: Aug 5, 2010 3:51 PM

    Yeah, the point of the article was to explain why smart players and agents prioritize signing bonuses, and why players with existing deals want them redone in the middle, etc. etc….not to say that Dumerville would be cut.
    But, it is apparently also true that pass-rushing is done only with feet.

  32. jcdavey says: Aug 5, 2010 3:58 PM

    if he was older, sure, but doom is coming off a GREAT season, so they’ll just make due with whatever they can find, and then welcome him back fresh next season
    i’m thinking ogunleye? is that guy even able to play the olb in a 3-4?

  33. muchmaligned says: Aug 5, 2010 3:58 PM

    favre send him naked pics too?
    tacious says:
    August 5, 2010 2:16 PM
    @ Plax18… it’s called greed… rather than go and work for it, they gotta have it all now… it’s a sorry symton of this ever-evolving “me” generation.
    @ HarrisonHits… you make a great point!
    This situation only makes me side with the team/ ownership more… why the hell do I want my team potentially wasting money on injured players that can’t contribute?
    ————————————————————
    Nothing like having some douche bag who doesn’t have a pot to piss in nor a window to throw it out of side with a bunch of billionaires.
    The players are the draw. They use their talent to make themselves and the owners rich/er They are also the only ones at risk. The owners risk nothing, ever. Nothing.

  34. rusH1023 says: Aug 5, 2010 4:10 PM

    I was interested to gauge the sentiment of the posts related to this article and whether fans would direct their ire (as always) to Florio for fabricating an insinuation that the Donks would screw their star sack-master or at the Donks for doing nothing wrong so far. I’m surprised it’s the latter, to be honest.

  35. ITSMEJC says: Aug 5, 2010 4:22 PM

    THEN WE WONDER WHY THERE IS A LABOR DISPUTE

  36. Broncostarrbrew says: Aug 6, 2010 2:03 AM

    If “ifs” and “buts” were candy and nuts, this article would be about Christmas.
    You know IF Tom Brady doesn’t get a contract and IF Tebow ends up a tight end and IF the Broncos can afford it under the new CBA salary cap…….Tom Brady could be a Bronco in 2011.
    You see I can do it too. Is NBC Sports hiring?

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