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Saban wants NFL to suspend players who were paid while in college

Some of you scoffed last month when we suggested that the NFL should suspend players who ultimately are determined by the NCAA to have accepted payments while still eligible to play college football.  One person who apparently didn’t scoff is Alabama coach Nick Saban.

We’re still trying to figure out whether that’s a good thing or a bad thing.

Per our guys at CFT, Saban said that the possibility was mentioned during a recent conference call involving Saban, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, NFLPA officials, and other college coaches.  The discussion was generally aimed at solving the problem of agents paying college players.

Though it may seem unfair on the surface to take action against NFL players based on things they did in college, the NFL and the NFLPA are free to agree to any and all work rules that they choose, limited only by the union’s duty of fair representation of its members.  Already, the league and the union have agreed to prevent players less than three years out of high school from playing NFL football — it’s horribly unfair to a gifted young athlete who want to earn a living right out of high school (or earlier), but the move was made to help preserve positive relations with the men who preside over pro football’s free farm system.

Saban also said that he plans to lift his ban on NFL scouts at Alabama practices, with scouts permitted to return at some point after August 25.

So it appears that Saban wanted to get the NFL’s attention.  And that he was successful.

Love him or hate him, Saban didn’t win national titles at two different schools by being stupid.

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  1. Al Davis' 40 Time says: Aug 12, 2010 2:36 PM

    The NCAA is so stupid.
    “It is immoral for amateur athletes to take money. Any other random company want a bowl game named after them? That’ll be a couple million dollars. Don’t worry Tostitos, not a single cent will go to the player who ended his football career in that game, that would be immoral. It’s not like the viewers were tuned in to watch him play, they were watching for the Tostitos of course.”

  2. dcbronco says: Aug 12, 2010 2:39 PM

    Saban needs to STFU. Colleges need to start spreading the wealth. And stop paying useless coaches millions of dollars. The next time the NCAA signs one of those multi-billion dollars deals, they need to set aside 30% for player salaries. 30% for other sports. 30% for sports facilities and 10% for the greedy administrations.

  3. kazkal says: Aug 12, 2010 2:42 PM

    “”Love him or hate him, Saban didn’t win national titles at two different schools by being stupid.””
    True :|

  4. TwoHands says: Aug 12, 2010 2:43 PM

    Love him or hate him, Saban didn’t win national titles at two different schools by being stupid.
    But he did set the Dolphins back a few years by being inept so we’ll always have that.

  5. milenko-tc says: Aug 12, 2010 2:44 PM

    saban is such a joke! this guy quit on the dolphins, I cant stand him, he should be band from football.

  6. WarrenMoonGOAT says: Aug 12, 2010 2:45 PM

    ridiculous…that would be like my job suspending me because i cheated on my wife and i work at a strip club
    Sabans statement hold no weight

  7. Citizen Strange says: Aug 12, 2010 2:46 PM

    If the NFL continues to keep saying they have the authority to take a player’s money away sooner or later the ACLU will get involved.

  8. Caldon says: Aug 12, 2010 2:47 PM

    Love him or hate him, Saban didn’t lose games in the NFL by being smart.
    ———
    There, fixed for you

  9. CanadianVikingFan says: Aug 12, 2010 2:49 PM

    He’s playing his cards right.

  10. KD says: Aug 12, 2010 2:50 PM

    NFL can’t do that. That’s a NFLPA deal. Until you are a dues paying NFLPA member, the NFL can’t do anything to you.

  11. milehiclown says: Aug 12, 2010 2:52 PM

    I want arrogant, self righteous college coaches that don’t keep commitments to be trained, but that won’t happen.
    Sometimes, Nick, we don’t get what we want.

  12. footballmania80 says: Aug 12, 2010 2:53 PM

    I think coaches that leave programs early and lie to kids in the process, should also be suspended by the NCAA to be served with their new school also. Going to come down on kids, lets go after the disloyal coaches that recruit them, and then lie to their faces, and the leave hours later. That leaves these kids committed to a school, where the terms have been altered underneath them. If they naturally want out, they are the ones penalized. I do not like Nick Saban!

  13. edgy says: Aug 12, 2010 2:54 PM

    Saban said that the possibility was mentioned during a recent conference call involving Saban,
    **********************
    Most likely BY Saban, who knows that the owners won’t do it.

  14. FlikeMorio says: Aug 12, 2010 2:58 PM

    And I want Saban to please stop talking.

  15. hawk22314 says: Aug 12, 2010 2:58 PM

    The NCAA is ridiculous. It acts as if it is a Governmental entity, but it is not. It is a “non-profit” corporation that has no intrinsic authority over athletes. The only authority it has is derived from a scholarship agreement.
    If players like Reggie Bush breached that agreement, then the NCAA’s only recourse should be to sue Bush. Of course, it won’t because it would be impossible to prove any damages (Bush brought in far more $$ than acceptance of payment cost).
    Stump speech over.

  16. slowfame says: Aug 12, 2010 2:59 PM

    I think its a good idea only if it applies to coaches too.

  17. _ROCKSTAR_ says: Aug 12, 2010 3:01 PM

    It makes perfect sense. To make a rule stick and have meaning both sides have to have something at steak to lose. A player and hide for a bit until he gets to the Pro’s and then nothing happens when he is found out?
    There is nothing for the player to lose unless caught while in college. Colleges, players and whoever else help make the arrangements should be penalized.
    The NFL and NCAA has these deals worked out so NCAA is really the NFL’s farm team then they should work out the details of punishments for the Universities, Players and yes agents as well if they are caught.

  18. PackerFanTastic says: Aug 12, 2010 3:01 PM

    The real culprits are the agents, most of whom are lawyers (no offense Florio). Perhaps if an agent is caught making payments to college players they should have their ability to represent NFL players suspended for 5 yrs.

  19. Ron Leflore says: Aug 12, 2010 3:01 PM

    NCAA needs to get its mission straight. They are about student athletes, not amateur athletes.
    They should suspend penalize athletes who are not true students, not the ones who are not true amateurs.
    Who cares how they make their money?

  20. Hovenaut says: Aug 12, 2010 3:02 PM

    I just want to be assured Coach Saban will be just as opinionated when the program he’s running isn’t atop the college football world.

  21. Renegade says: Aug 12, 2010 3:02 PM

    ” The discussion was generally aimed at solving the problem of agents paying college players.”
    Perhaps the action should be taken against the agents.

  22. ejtowne says: Aug 12, 2010 3:07 PM

    The guy put the dolphins back about 3-4 years with the way he ran that team.

  23. FinFan68 says: Aug 12, 2010 3:07 PM

    I understand and agree that the NCAA would not want colleges to pay players (other than the free education) because big money schools will get thje bulk of the best players, but what exactly is their problem with a third party compensating a player for a future commitment? I hate the agents and think that they and the narcissistic player attitudes are ruining the game with ridiculous salary expectations but i do not see how the NFL should hold a player accountable for violating an ethics rule in college. Make the player forfeit the college scholarship money or even revoke their credits/degree

  24. hobbeslax says: Aug 12, 2010 3:09 PM

    I saw another headline that read: “The NFL wants coaches to take a major pay-cut/fine for coaches who break contracts or promise on camera about their loyalty only to jump ship the following week.”
    Go Steelers!!!

  25. hazi59 says: Aug 12, 2010 3:11 PM

    Saban has always been a bastard…but he can coach. The question I have is who set Miami back further…Nick Saban or Cam Cameron?

  26. nps6724 says: Aug 12, 2010 3:14 PM

    “Love him or hate him, Saban didn’t win national titles at two different schools by being stupid.”
    No, he did it by coaching at 2 powerhouse schools where he had/has the pick of the litter when it comes to recruits and by knowing FOOTBALL. It has little to do with non-football intelligence.

  27. wayupsouth says: Aug 12, 2010 3:18 PM

    Regardless of what anybody thinks of Saban (and I tend to agree with the sentiments on this page), I don’t think the union is going to go for punishing a player for something he did before he got into the NFL. It might have done something ten years ago when there was labor peace, but I don’t think the union is in the mood to help out the league right now, in the capacity of keeping peace between the NCAA and NFL, or in any other fashion.

  28. FinFan68 says: Aug 12, 2010 3:20 PM

    Nick Satan screwed up the Dolphins by being just as shady as the agents he is complaining about. He is no better than the “pig suhey” moron that screwed over the Falcons.

  29. Crusty says: Aug 12, 2010 3:22 PM

    Saban = Suck.
    and I’m no Fins fan.

  30. bblogger says: Aug 12, 2010 3:23 PM

    Let’s fine guys who received a degree from Alabama but are unable to read this post and are incapable of speaking proper english. Yes, a couple are in the NFL but most are working at jobs that don’t require a high school diploma let alone a college degree. I guess they should also be suspended. “blank stare” Oh the hypocrisy, how much did he make with the Dolphins (while not honoring his contract) and how much is making at Alabama while whining about kids taking a couple of bucks not honoring their contract?

  31. AlanSaysYo says: Aug 12, 2010 3:27 PM

    What does the NFL get out of the deal? A headache for having to deal with allegations that don’t currently concern them? The NFL does have an interest in keeping the NCAA happy, but there’s a limit to that. It’s none of the NFL’s business if a player takes money in college. It’s not illegal and affects only NCAA eligibility.

  32. wmt says: Aug 12, 2010 3:30 PM

    Saban lost his right to suggest anything that the NFL should do. The way he left his team and the NFL was classless. He is nothing outside of an ass-hole.

  33. SJ Apollo says: Aug 12, 2010 3:32 PM

    “Saban wants NFL to suspend players who were paid while in college”
    They’re going to suspend them, but they’ll call it a lockout.

  34. steelers rule says: Aug 12, 2010 3:50 PM

    Suspend the players and COACHES 2 years from ANY football organizations! That includes asst coach, radio and tv anyalist!

  35. Mac says: Aug 12, 2010 3:51 PM

    “the move was made to help preserve positive relations with the men who preside over pro football’s free farm system.”
    Give me an f’ing break! The NCAA cannot plead poverty and had better not try to convince anyone that they’re being taken advantage of by the NFL The NCAA and its member schools get billions in tv contracts, merchandise sales, advertising, and bowl games. At least the NFL pays its players. The NCAA makes its billions by getting players to play for free.
    Screw you Saban!
    The NFL has no right and no obligation to punish players for what they did prior to being subject to the rules.

  36. majorlots says: Aug 12, 2010 3:57 PM

    saban needs a nice tall glass of stfu

  37. bayou says: Aug 12, 2010 3:58 PM

    Saban, you had your chance to say what should happen at the NFL level. Remember?????? Pipe down and stay in your comfort zone in college football. You couldn’t manage the ego’s of your pro players let alone your own. You should be worried about your players. Alabama hasn’t always been known as the cleanest program.

  38. EverybodyGotAIDS says: Aug 12, 2010 4:00 PM

    FinFan68 says:
    August 12, 2010 3:07 PM
    I understand and agree that the NCAA would not want colleges to pay players (other than the free education) because big money schools will get thje bulk of the best players, but what exactly is their problem with a third party compensating a player for a future commitment?
    ______________
    Excellent distinction. These guys are legal adults. I can understand schools having a problem with a player being paid to play at a particular school (a la Reggie Bush), but if they want to enter into a contract with an agent where they receive money in return for agreeing to be a client of that agent…where’s the harm in that? Who or what is being tainted?

  39. BeaverThomas says: Aug 12, 2010 4:00 PM

    Saban should pound sand up his Arse. Period.
    He lost his right to say anything about the NFL when he pulled that AssHat job on Miami

  40. Ron says: Aug 12, 2010 4:01 PM

    # ejtowne says: August 12, 2010 3:07 PM
    The guy put the dolphins back about 3-4 years with the way he ran that team.
    **********************************************
    1 16(16) Jason Allen
    3 18(82) Derek Hagan
    4 17(114) Joe Toledo
    7 4(212) Fred Evans
    7 18(226) Rodrique Wright
    7 25(233) Devin Aromashodu
    OH MY WHAT A DRAFT

  41. DG0122 says: Aug 12, 2010 4:11 PM

    so the entire crop of SEC draftees would be suspended…???

  42. muchmaligned says: Aug 12, 2010 4:12 PM

    Saban was then whisked from the room aboard a royal carrying chair by 4 of his former players.

  43. JP says: Aug 12, 2010 4:13 PM

    I would include fining the agents as well. These fools (players and agents) leave their schools holding the tab (loss of scholarships, revenue, etc) while they are paid millions $$$$$. If an agent had to give back any money he got for a player found to be guilty of accepting gifts and cash, I’d bet the agents would clean up pretty quickly.

  44. FinsUp says: Aug 12, 2010 4:18 PM

    Hey Nick- Alabama contacted you and/or your representatives while you were coaching the Dolphins. By your reasoning, the NCAA should suspend you.
    And thanks for picking Culpepper over Brees, prick.

  45. CJ says: Aug 12, 2010 4:22 PM

    WarrenMoonGOAT says:
    August 12, 2010 2:45 PM
    ridiculous…that would be like my job suspending me because i cheated on my wife and i work at a strip club
    ____________
    I HATE it when that happens.

  46. bearfan354 says: Aug 12, 2010 4:30 PM

    EverybodyGotAIDS says:
    August 12, 2010 4:00 PM
    FinFan68 says:
    August 12, 2010 3:07 PM
    I understand and agree that the NCAA would not want colleges to pay players (other than the free education) because big money schools will get thje bulk of the best players, but what exactly is their problem with a third party compensating a player for a future commitment?
    ______________
    Excellent distinction. These guys are legal adults. I can understand schools having a problem with a player being paid to play at a particular school (a la Reggie Bush), but if they want to enter into a contract with an agent where they receive money in return for agreeing to be a client of that agent…where’s the harm in that? Who or what is being tainted?
    ______________
    If you think about it long enough, you’ll figure out the problem with it.

  47. slowfame says: Aug 12, 2010 4:44 PM

    Also coaches that leave before their contract is up or change from college teams to pro teams should have to sit a year out un paid.

  48. stabkoff says: Aug 12, 2010 4:44 PM

    I totally agree with Saban.

  49. granadafan says: Aug 12, 2010 4:54 PM

    Some of you myopics should look at the bigger picture instead of attacking the messenger. Saban and Urban Meyer do have a good point, regardless of what you think about them as fans of rival or former teams. The NFL is the goal for these players and the league ought to do something to help their sole source of employees. Suspending agents would be an excellent first choice and players themselves and close second.
    Take off your blinkers for a second and actually use your brain.

  50. FinsUp says: Aug 12, 2010 4:55 PM

    How about college coaches who leave their jobs just at the same time the school is about to go on probation for violations that occurred on their watch (ahem, Pete Carroll. ahem John Calipari) Any thoughts on this issue, Nick?

  51. FinFan68 says: Aug 12, 2010 4:59 PM

    bearfan354: if you think a little harder you may actually see the point behind the post

  52. imissmydeadspin says: Aug 12, 2010 5:05 PM

    they should

  53. bblogger says: Aug 12, 2010 5:06 PM

    I would agree with this if the guys who can’t read and speak proper English were not allowed to play. They wouldn’t have a team.

  54. hawk22314 says: Aug 12, 2010 5:14 PM

    @JP
    Who would fine the agents, and how could such fines be enforced? They have no alliegence to the NFL or the NCAA. It would be akin to a condo association, that I do not belong to, assessing me a fine. It would never be paid.
    The NFLPA has power over the agents, but no interest in regulating college players.

  55. muchmaligned says: Aug 12, 2010 5:18 PM

    @bblogger,
    Those provisions would also spell the end of NASCAR.

  56. Louis says: Aug 12, 2010 5:23 PM

    So lets say just for example,half the players were paid while in college. The NFL suspends them all for 4 games and shut down the NFL because of Saban who dont even coach in the NFL.
    Now if they want to start suspending players who take pay in the future,that I could understand.

  57. Louis says: Aug 12, 2010 5:26 PM

    I think Saban should be suspended from coaching for all the Lies he told.

  58. Louis says: Aug 12, 2010 5:27 PM

    You know Saban is such a Honest Person. LOL

  59. rbais2 says: Aug 12, 2010 5:35 PM

    Can the NCAA suspend coaches for taking cowardly routes to boost their winning percentages??
    As Fuad Reveiz told Dan Lebatard in 2007, “‘Coach Idiot’, the ‘Midget Idiot'”.

  60. SaintsXLIV says: Aug 12, 2010 5:39 PM

    God dam Sabin, shut the hell up. You couldn’t be successful in the NFL, now get over this little power trip. You look pathetic.

  61. Darr247 says: Aug 12, 2010 5:52 PM

    @milehiclown (August 12, 2010 2:52 PM)
    Let me guess… MSU fan?
    No? LSU fan?
    No? Miami fan?
    No? Alabama fan? (don’t worry – you’ll get your turn when something with better pay/prestige comes along.)

  62. rjgreen3 says: Aug 12, 2010 5:53 PM

    when will the ncaa start banning coaches for rules violations? coaches get caught at one school and just move on to the next without any cosequences. DOES THIS MEAN THAT THE NFL SHOULD SUSPEND PETE CARROLL ALSO

  63. RyanT. says: Aug 12, 2010 6:48 PM

    I can’t believe how many amoral and corrupt individuals comment on this blog.
    Just cuz you ass-holes have no standards and no ethics doesn’t mean that most football fans don’t!
    And, spare me the “players need to get paid” bull crap!
    The players get full ride scholarships to some of the most expensive schools in this country!
    They get free housing, free meals, and don’t even have to attend class!
    If any of you 5th grade dropouts had ever attended college, you’d realize by your mounting student loan debt that college football players have it pretty sweet! So, enough of the boo-hoo “players need to get paid” canard!

  64. chiefBartle says: Aug 12, 2010 7:18 PM

    I want Saban to pay back his salary he made in the NFL to charity (including his funds for little debbies) and shut the **** up….. then he MIGHT be able to tell the college players it isn’t about the money… which obviously the college game is about the money, for the college, and for the tv… but not for the players…. defend that one Saban…..

  65. hard left media says: Aug 12, 2010 7:47 PM

    Who is Nick Saban?

  66. DEMOLITION says: Aug 12, 2010 8:36 PM

    So you suggested something but wasn’t sure if it’s a good idea or bad???
    Awesome. Makes sense.

  67. FlorioRules! says: Aug 12, 2010 8:37 PM

    We wouldnt have a league if we suspended all the players who took money in college.
    We can thank the Boone Pickens’ and Nick Sabans’ of the world for that. NCAA are all SCUMBAGS that are trying to pin this as the NFL’s problems.
    Give me a break!!!!!

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