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Bush says he'd give the Heisman back "if he could"

NFL_Bush1.jpgFrom our friends, Romans, and/or countrymen at CFT comes the latest tale of a former Trojan who saw fit to get paid while still playing football at a level that, in theory, involves no compensation, apart from an “education.”

And it’s a doozy.

New USC G.M. Pat Haden tells USA Today that Bush has apologized privately for conduct that, previously, Bush has insisted entailed no wrongdoing.

“He’s really contrite,” Haden said.  “He knows he made a series of mistakes.  It wasn’t just one mistake.  It was a series of mistakes.

Here’s the money quote from the Notre Dame analyst turned USC sports czar.

“He told me, ‘If I could turn the clock back, I would.  If I could give the Heisman Trophy back, I would.”

So what’s the impediment to giving back the Heisman, Reggie?  Have you sold it?  Broken it?  Carved “619″ under each of the eyes?

We’ve got a feeling that, first and foremost, Bush will deny saying that he’d give the Heisman back “if he could.”  But if he said it, and if he meant it, why doesn’t he just give it back?

Either way, if should make for some interesting discussion the next time Reggie meets the media.

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40 Responses to “Bush says he'd give the Heisman back "if he could"”
  1. PFTiswhatitis says: Aug 13, 2010 9:15 AM

    “619″ ???

  2. Nevisyakker says: Aug 13, 2010 9:18 AM

    He’ll not “give ” it back, but I think he would trade it for a big car and a house on Malibu…oh wait, he already did that.

  3. Asswipe Johnson (Pronounced Az-Wee-Pay) says: Aug 13, 2010 9:24 AM

    Posted by Mike Florio on August 13, 2010 9:10 AM ET
    Here’s the money quote from the Notre Dame analyst turned USC sports czar.
    —————————————————-
    While I understand Haden’s recent notoriety coming from his Notre Dame analyst job…The more pertinent information about Haden should be that he is a Rhodes Scholar and a two time National Championship (3 time Rose Bowl winner and 1 time co-MVP) winning QB with the Trojans.

  4. BOO3LEGS says: Aug 13, 2010 9:27 AM

    Is there really anyone in the sports fan-nation that care if college players get paid. I for on think they should get something (money from jersey sales for one) There is too much money being exchanged not to have the athletes get something. Scenario Reggie Bush is on his way to winning the Heisman Trophy when in the final game against San Diego State he breaks his leg. A sure fire first rounder widdled to the scrap heap. USC comes out and thanks Reggie for the MILLIONS of dollars he made for them, and sends him off with a pat on the back. I don’t want to here that he is getting a free education and that should make up for it, because more than likely he is just as stupid at the time of graduation as when he got there.

  5. Brad Miller says: Aug 13, 2010 9:29 AM

    Yeah what is 619?

  6. gittiup says: Aug 13, 2010 9:30 AM

    PFTiswhatitis says:
    August 13, 2010 9:15 AM
    “619″ ???
    The area code for San Diego….

  7. ElwayBronco says: Aug 13, 2010 9:33 AM

    I would take the money too. The reason people want to play collage football is so they have a shot at playing NFL football. Why should anyone at the collage level that came from a poor family not take the money? The schools are making a ton of money off these kids it’s only fair that the kids should get some too. The only trophy that matters is the Lombardi Trophy.

  8. TylerDurden says: Aug 13, 2010 9:43 AM

    Two words, Mike: WHO CARES?

  9. DonTerrelli says: Aug 13, 2010 9:43 AM

    His ex, KK, probably stole it.

  10. numberfour says: Aug 13, 2010 9:52 AM

    he can give it back.
    anytime.

  11. Philly Cheese says: Aug 13, 2010 9:54 AM

    PFTiswhatitis says:
    August 13, 2010 9:15 AM
    “619″ ???
    I beieve it is the area code for where he grew up. He used to write it on the black patches that he wore under his eyes to mitigate the sun shining in his eyes.

  12. Bigbluefan says: Aug 13, 2010 9:54 AM

    He can give it back put it in a box go to the UPS store and send it back.
    That is all it takes

  13. Sankey_GB2LA says: Aug 13, 2010 10:01 AM

    All this and he’s barley scraping the average bar. Who really cares. He’s a major bust by the standards of the hype machine that was his draft campaign. That’s his real shame.

  14. MrHumble says: Aug 13, 2010 10:03 AM

    Spot on Florio! Everything Bush says is , per his lack of action, “EMPTY WORDS’, which further promotes that he has no REAL remorse for his actions. He “apologizes in private” to USC, he “claims he would give the Heisman back if he could”……..Come on Reggie, show the country and the fans that you really mean it, come clean, admit to your mistakes, apologize in public and give the damn Heisman back!!!! Until Bush does these things, he is just perpetuating the lies and denials that he has been living.

  15. geaux says: Aug 13, 2010 10:03 AM

    Hey ElwayBronco – not only is it clear you didn’t go to “collage” – you also overlook the fact that these guys get full ride scholarships, housing, meals, etc. to some top notch schools that they might not otherwise be able to attend. They have opportunities at furthering their educations for free, in exchange for playing football.
    Is there a valid argument that could be made that collegiate players might deserve a piece of the pie from the money that is generated, above and beyond the scholarships/housing/meals/etc.? Probably. But it’s a shame to gloss over education and housing and meals as if it’s not even provided.
    If they’re good enough to go to the NFL, the money will be there when they get there. If not (and even if they are good enough), they ought to take advantage of (and be grateful for) the free yet valuable educational opportunities too, just in case they end up injured like Chad Jones.

  16. Harm City Homer says: Aug 13, 2010 10:03 AM

    Yeah, I feel bad and all, but at the end of the day I just can’t do it. I mean did I not run for all those yards and score all those TDs? You all saw me in teh national championship games. Did getting a free car and house make me a better player? Maybe, but who is the victim? USC?
    Why should D1 college football players not be allowed to have agents? Reggie Bush was not pimped out by his potential agent. Pete Carroll and Nick Saban wearing a suit are the closest things to pimps I have seen since Silky retired.

  17. SF Saints Fan says: Aug 13, 2010 10:04 AM

    He should melt it down and send them a bar of metal.

  18. muchmaligned says: Aug 13, 2010 10:25 AM

    Why anyone would expect him to give it back is beyond me. I hate, I cannot stress that strongly enough, I hate both the Saints and the Trojans. However, is there any question as to whether he gained all those yards and scored all those touchdowns? That game where he dropped 564 yards on some poor team was a spectacular performance. That game alone should have sealed the Heisman for him.
    What’s the argument? Was he not the greatest player in college football the year he won it?

  19. lifelongphinfan says: Aug 13, 2010 10:25 AM

    2 words for bush & anyone else that has done this, because bush is not the only guilty college player- jim thorpe

  20. blmonroe12 says: Aug 13, 2010 10:29 AM

    Pack that thing up and send it to VY.. And while you’re at it – have your boy Leinart send Aaron Rodgers his PAC 10 Chamionship ring..
    Life isn’t good for Reggie Bush right now.. Throw into the equation that Miles Austin is blasting his old lady and this dude is having a regretable 2010 after winning that Super Bowl..

  21. ferbie says: Aug 13, 2010 10:37 AM

    So because he took money, that takes away from what he did on the field? Some people act as if he was taking performance drugs. I to think college athletes should get paid…federal minimum wage, that way no one will get paid more for going to one school over another, but yet they will have at least a little spending money.

  22. Reggie'sBush says: Aug 13, 2010 10:39 AM

    Bush is poised for a great year. Trust me.
    He must of said this to please this jerk, you don’t think he actually meant it.
    Lastly, when did most of you guys start watching football with that 619 question?

  23. Paracelsus says: Aug 13, 2010 10:44 AM

    Perhaps it should go into the treasures of the Vatican exhibit, or perhaps where all my athletic trophies are–a landfill. Is there anything in sports more overrated than this award given by a local gym/athletic club?

  24. RC IV says: Aug 13, 2010 10:45 AM

    geaux says:
    August 13, 2010 10:03 AM
    Hey ElwayBronco – not only is it clear you didn’t go to “collage” – you also overlook the fact that these guys get full ride scholarships, housing, meals, etc. to some top notch schools that they might not otherwise be able to attend. They have opportunities at furthering their educations for free, in exchange for playing football.
    Is there a valid argument that could be made that collegiate players might deserve a piece of the pie from the money that is generated, above and beyond the scholarships/housing /meals/etc.? Probably. But it’s a shame to gloss over education and housing and meals as if it’s not even provided.
    If they’re good enough to go to the NFL, the money will be there when they get there. If not (and even if they are good enough), they ought to take advantage of (and be grateful for) the free yet valuable educational opportunities too, just in case they end up injured like Chad Jones.
    ==========================
    That’s all well and good. but with all the classes and practices(year round almost). Scholarship players are not allowed to have jobs during the school year.
    What are they supposed to do for spending money?
    Don’t be all high and mighty about this, he may want a new pair of shoes or to take his girl to a movie and get some pizza. Where is that money supposed to come from? Mom and Dad?
    A lot of these guys come from poor bakgrounds.
    The NCAA is still operating in the 60′s and it jsut doesn’t work anymore.
    Thr rule that states these kids cannot come out tila certain age is a sham. NCAA football is a minor leauge for pro football and it is a farce.
    Most of them are not there for an education, so why pretend like they are?
    Make the UFL a feeder league. Let them get drafted at 18 or whatever and go down there if they aren’t physically ready. At least the guys who don’t want to or don’t belong in college.
    Either that, or they need to start paying them a monthly stipend. Amatuerism is dead.

  25. NOwillrepeat says: Aug 13, 2010 10:55 AM

    Yall get off reggie’s back. He didn’t do anything the rest of yall wouldn’t have done at that age.
    There isn’t an 18 year old out there, including you florio, who would have turned down a chance to improve his family’s life. They just don’t know any better
    There is, however, no way anyone will ever convince me that USC and pete carroll didn’t know what was going on, as they claim. It was their responsibility to step in and take control of the situation. Not some wide eyed kid.
    These types of gifts happen at every major college in America. Reggie was just a a big name and made an example.
    Lastly, no way reggie should give back his heisman. He earned it on the field as the bpicf, it’s his!

  26. stnmmc says: Aug 13, 2010 11:02 AM

    # BOO3LEGS says: August 13, 2010 9:27 AM
    Is there really anyone in the sports fan-nation that care if college players get paid. I for on think they should get something (money from jersey sales for one) There is too much money being exchanged not to have the athletes get something. Scenario Reggie Bush is on his way to winning the Heisman Trophy when in the final game against San Diego State he breaks his leg. A sure fire first rounder widdled to the scrap heap. USC comes out and thanks Reggie for the MILLIONS of dollars he made for them, and sends him off with a pat on the back. I don’t want to here that he is getting a free education and that should make up for it, because more than likely he is just as stupid at the time of graduation as when he got there.
    _____________________________
    I for one do not think they should get paid. If they are paid, then they must pay for tuition, room and board and so on. I personally believe the growth of college football has gotten to the point where it should no longer be a college sport. (i.e., amateur)
    Set up a minor league system, or layers of professional leagues a la soccer leagues in Europe.
    My favorite part of the above post is that the gentleman arguing for paying college football players cannot complete a short paragraph without a handful of grammatical and spelling errors, yet in the final line has the audacity to say that :
    ” I don’t want to here that he is getting a free education and that should make up for it, because more than likely he is just as stupid at the time of graduation as when he got there.”
    That is pure gold right there. You can’t make this shit up.

  27. geaux says: Aug 13, 2010 11:05 AM

    Hey RC IV – I agree with your point; that’s why I wrote: “Is there a valid argument that could be made that collegiate players might deserve a piece of the pie from the money that is generated, above and beyond the scholarships/housing /meals/etc.? Probably. But it’s a shame to gloss over education and housing and meals as if it’s not even provided.”
    There is a valid argument – which you showed in your comment. I just think that the Elway fella completely glossed over the other benefits provided by the colleges to the athletes.

  28. iusedtobeteddybayer says: Aug 13, 2010 11:11 AM

    @ELWAYBRONCO says: August 13, 2010 10:03 AM said:
    IT’S “COLLEGE” NOT COLLAGE, YOU BOZO.
    Funny you — you — would be illiterate enough not to know how to spell and yet comment on college and learning and stuff.
    Turn of Teletubbies and leave the rest of us alone. You disgrace Bronco fans everywhere.
    Dummy.

  29. trademcscab says: Aug 13, 2010 11:22 AM

    619 reppin SD till you die son!!!! i dont give a shit if he got paid in college he was better than everyone else anyway…..i watched him play for usc and ill never forget it…..you can take his face off the mural but no matter what hes a trojan till he dies

  30. Cake Or Death says: Aug 13, 2010 11:41 AM

    He can’t return it because Bishop Desmond Tutu melted it down.

  31. Reggie'sBush says: Aug 13, 2010 11:45 AM

    iusedtobeteddybayer says:
    August 13, 2010 11:11 AM
    @ELWAYBRONCO says: August 13, 2010 10:03 AM said:
    IT’S “COLLEGE” NOT COLLAGE, YOU BOZO.
    Funny you — you — would be illiterate enough not to know how to spell and yet comment on college and learning and stuff.
    Turn of Teletubbies and leave the rest of us alone. You disgrace Bronco fans everywhere.
    Dummy.
    ^^^^
    Turn on or off the teletubbies? Dummy. I would say a comment about maybe all Bronco fans are dummies, but I know the spelling/grammar of a lot of Saint’s fans so I will refrain.

  32. Tims_mom says: Aug 13, 2010 11:47 AM

    Maybe Bishop Desmond Tutu broke the arm off of it…

  33. BigSuede says: Aug 13, 2010 12:01 PM

    I would be a bigger supporter of the NCAA if they didn’t make football such a money venture to begin with.
    If you are not going to allow students to cash in on amateur sports- make the sports truly amateur. Give tickets to the events to students FOR FREE! Put any money from television to pay for the students…..
    Stop paying coaches millions of dollars a year…. Stop selling merchandise at huge profits using reggie bush in your ads….
    This whole situation is a joke-

  34. MrHumble says: Aug 13, 2010 12:03 PM

    Some of these posters just don’t “get it”…….ncaa rules are in place to ensure that all schools are playing on a level playing field. Say what you want about Bush’s records and successes at USC…maybe he wouldn’t have even had the opportunity for that success if some other school and it’s boosters offered him more money, a bigger house, nicer car etc………going to another school, perhaps they weren’t as good as USC and poor reggie never gets the chance to shine or set all those records and win the heisman…..so then reggie doesn’t have what he has now.
    The beef I have on the other side of the arguement is, the ncaa shouldn’t be allowed to pick and choose which rules they want to enforce and which ones they want to ignore….i.e…..an earlier poster stated that “these kids like bush come from poor families…….” My arguement would be, how many of these “poor kids” are truely academically eligible to play any sport or keep their scholarships?????? My guess is that 60-75% of college athletes did not and could not pass a standard college entrance exam. Rules are bent and ignored just to get them enrolled and once enrolled, the athletic dept. etc. pays tutors to do the majority of their course work for them…..i’m all for cleaning up college sports but let’s not pick n choose who, what, where and when.

  35. dvdman says: Aug 13, 2010 12:05 PM

    I cannot believe anyone is still discussing this.
    It’s time to move along. There is NOTHING here to see.

  36. steelerfanjj says: Aug 13, 2010 12:10 PM

    How come all anybody talks about is the money/cars that he took, instead of being academically ineligible to play and was on the field anyway??

  37. karmathaitch says: Aug 13, 2010 12:33 PM

    619-Reppin San Diego Cali 4life
    1904- S.D.
    If you come to San Diego night life, or just to kick it at shows or whatever, you’ll hear 619 repp’n all the time.
    On Vehicles, you will see 1904 which stands for S. D. all the time. Thats how we do it in the country!!!
    SD till i die

  38. august says: Aug 13, 2010 12:37 PM

    no one can take away your heisman. unless you kill your wife. and a waiter.

  39. muchmaligned says: Aug 13, 2010 12:58 PM

    @ karmathaitch,
    … Fascinating.

  40. scra22 says: Aug 13, 2010 1:40 PM

    I think obviously he means if he could “give back” him receiving the Heisman in the first place, he would, not that he is incapable of giving back the physical trophy.

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