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Michael Vick is different this year

M. Vick.jpgMichael Vick’s preseason performance Friday night ran the gamut from spectacular to disastrous, but Andy Reid and Eagles fans should come away from it optimistic.

The explosive Michael Vick is back.

Courtesy of NFL.com’s Preseason Live application, I watched Vick display far more short area quickness than he ever did in 2009.  Vick rushed four times for 45 yards in the first half, including a 10-yard score that showed off impressive moves. He had the speed to get to the edge of the defense again.

Vick’s first half throwing the ball predictably erratic. He dropped a gorgeous 46-yard toss in the bucket to Riley Cooper on Vick’s second snap of the game, but also turned the ball over twice. He lost a fumble early on a comically poor decision, and then threw an interception on a miscommunication with rookie Charles Scott. 

Still, Vick showed the elusiveness that, well, eluded him last year.  He flashed his old talent  more on Friday night than all of last year combined.

The Eagles don’t need Vick to be a true drop-back quarterback.   But it sure looks like he’ll be a bigger weapon as a runner/Wildcat option this year.

UPDATE:
Vick finished 11-of-17 for 119 yards and a pick.  He ran for 50 yards on six carries.

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69 Responses to “Michael Vick is different this year”
  1. .Vox Veritas. says: Aug 13, 2010 9:34 PM

    “He had the speed to get to the edge of the defense again.”
    In a preseason game. Against the Jaguars.

  2. Bob Nelson says: Aug 13, 2010 9:39 PM

    Vick sucks as a player and a human.

  3. numberfour says: Aug 13, 2010 9:41 PM

    he was playing against scrubs who were in awe of his supposed talent and still had no clue what plays would be called.
    gregg, just cause u work at pft doesnt mean u have to drink all the kool aid.

  4. pats suck, blow and cheat* says: Aug 13, 2010 9:42 PM

    If Vick is truly different this year, then the mortality rate for dogs in SE Virginia just dropped precipitously.

  5. toe-to-toe bird law says: Aug 13, 2010 9:49 PM

    1. .Vox Veritas. says: August 13, 2010 9:34 PM
    “He had the speed to get to the edge of the defense again.”
    In a preseason game. Against the Jaguars.
    ————————————————-
    I know. I mean, why even waste a post about Vick’s speed, Gregg? It’s not like it’s an important topic, unlike Tony Romo’s quest for the most passing attempts as a Cowboy.

  6. SaintsBucsPanthersSUKK says: Aug 13, 2010 9:57 PM

    “Michael Vick is different this year”
    ———————————————–
    He now goes by the name Don Nicaragua.

  7. rambo says: Aug 13, 2010 9:59 PM

    Please get over the dogs, it’s getting pretty old now, not to mention boring.

  8. Richm2256 says: Aug 13, 2010 10:03 PM

    Who cares?
    Doesn’t matter how good Vick does, don’t you all get it? No matter how good he becomes, he’s gonna lose it all by doing something stupid before long, because that’s just who he is.
    He’ll end up banned from the league for good, or in prison, or dead …… or all of the above.

  9. redscare says: Aug 13, 2010 10:06 PM

    Aw, Rambo, do you need someone to hold your hand? Poor baby is bored.

  10. amanuel says: Aug 13, 2010 10:09 PM

    ppl its only a preseason game. the first one at that. chew on a hot dog or something !!

  11. redscare says: Aug 13, 2010 10:09 PM

    Vick’s not “different” this year. What Vick is, is a year older, another year gone without starting experience, and his “explosiveness” is, like that of a running back, running out quickly. He’s too old to rebuild a career based on his old game. He’s not going to get faster or more maneuverable. He’s going to get slower. And as that happens, his only hope will be to become one of the best drop-back passers in the league, because new young talent is pouring in, and older talent can be had for less money.
    Done.

  12. .Vox Veritas. says: Aug 13, 2010 10:11 PM

    “I know. I mean, why even waste a post about Vick’s speed, Gregg? It’s not like it’s an important topic”
    Exactly. The Cowboys first string D isn’t exactly the Jaguars’ camp fodder.
    20-16 in Philly to take their pride
    24-0 to take the division
    34-14 to end McNabb’s career as an 0-3gle.

  13. .Vox Veritas. says: Aug 13, 2010 10:17 PM

    Please get over people talking about the dogs. He never did a minute in jail for torturing and killing all those dogs. It’s gonna haunt him for the rest of his life and rightfully so.

  14. rambo says: Aug 13, 2010 10:27 PM

    No I don’t need anyone to hold anything, but you have to admit, there have been many many dogs that have died and been killed, in the past four years. As I said its getting pretty old.

  15. rambo says: Aug 13, 2010 10:29 PM

    Vox Veritas agreed 100 percent, it will haunt him and no one else.

  16. famucancer says: Aug 13, 2010 10:30 PM

    # .Vox Veritas. says: August 13, 2010 10:17 PM
    Please get over people talking about the dogs. He never did a minute in jail for torturing and killing all those dogs. It’s gonna haunt him for the rest of his life and rightfully so.
    ______________
    BWA HAHAHAHA…looks like its only haunting yours.

  17. BigBear123 says: Aug 13, 2010 10:32 PM

    Ha. Was bashing Florio for fluffing up Dante Stallworth earlier today. Quick turnaround and your loving you some Mike Vick.
    Guys are becoming closer to becoming just another NFL mouthpiece everyday. Could as least trying to do it a little more gradually. I need time to find a new site to read.
    Forgot to mention Kolb showing blazing speed against the Jag scrubs too.

  18. Trig says: Aug 13, 2010 11:03 PM

    People on this site need to make up their mind. This is the 1st semi-positive piece on Vick I have ever seen on this site. And every other article I see commentators bashing this site for being anti-Vick.
    I can tell just from things I have been reading in training camp that Vick is back. And his confidence is back too. I don’t know if yall have seen that new youtube video where Vick is like “I can win in any offense, in any league”. Pretty awesome.
    I mean I love animals and I understand why people want Vick to fail and root against him, but I think they will be disappointed. He is one hell of a football player, and I cant wait to watch him play this year.
    I predict 8 touchdowns for Vick this year, and that is if he spends the whole year as a backup/wildcat QB.

  19. Arizona Buckeye says: Aug 13, 2010 11:30 PM

    Ahhhh – poor Mike the dog slaughterer yakked up the ham inside the red zone… bwwwaaa haaa haaa. Get use to it loser – karma is getting even all year with your POS ass

  20. Ridge_Runner says: Aug 14, 2010 12:46 AM

    redscare says:
    Vick’s not “different” this year. What Vick is, is a year older, another year gone without starting experience, and his “explosiveness” is, like that of a running back, running out quickly. He’s too old to rebuild a career based on his old game. He’s not going to get faster or more maneuverable. He’s going to get slower. And as that happens, his only hope will be to become one of the best drop-back passers in the league, because new young talent is pouring in, and older talent can be had for less money.
    That pretty much sums up Vick’s fleeting chances of becoming a starting QB in the NFL. Unfortunately, his passing skills are too erratic for that to ever happen. He has be reduced to an overrated gimmick, and like all gimmicks once it becomes tired he’ll find himself unemployed again… if he doesn’t do something to end up in federal custody first, that is.

  21. Akshun says: Aug 14, 2010 1:00 AM

    Hey Vox, take your clown suit off and let me see how your team is doing after this year when you’re left trying to rag on other fans because they Cowboys choked in the playoffs again…

  22. Route36West says: Aug 14, 2010 2:59 AM

    “numberfour says:
    August 13, 2010 9:41 PM
    he was playing against scrubs who were in awe of his supposed talent and still had no clue what plays would be called.”
    um no…. for vicks first 2 drives the jaguars kept there starters in …. also vick was playing with backups…. if he would of had desean, maclin, mccoy, avant, celek, weaver, and the whole starting o line he would of done even better. His int was only because the 5th string running back ran the wrong way and his fumble was because of 2nd and 3rd string linemen not blocking for him at all.
    Think before you talk

  23. Route36West says: Aug 14, 2010 3:03 AM

    BigBear123 says:
    August 13, 2010 10:32 PM
    “Forgot to mention Kolb showing blazing speed against the Jag scrubs too. ”
    ——————————————————–
    Jag scrubs he played against starters genius.
    # .Vox Veritas. says: August 13, 2010 10:17 PM
    “Please get over people talking about the dogs. He never did a minute in jail for torturing and killing all those dogs”
    What are u talking about never did a minute in jail he was in there for a year.

  24. Route36West says: Aug 14, 2010 3:11 AM

    redscare says:
    August 13, 2010 10:09 PM
    Vick’s not “different” this year. What Vick is, is a year older, another year gone without starting experience, and his “explosiveness” is, like that of a running back, running out quickly. He’s too old to rebuild a career based on his old game. He’s not going to get faster or more maneuverable. He’s going to get slower. And as that happens, his only hope will be to become one of the best drop-back passers in the league, because new young talent is pouring in, and older talent can be had for less money.
    Done.
    Vick unlike running backs who continue to get beat on had 3 years of rest. Vick was the faster guy in the league when he came in so even if he has gotten slower hes still faster then most. Also you dont need blazing speed as a qb to break off huge runs because of all the open spaces qbs have to work with and the ability to throw the football. So ok Vick isnt what he use to be but an old Vick is still more effective with his legs then any qb in the league by a wide margin.

  25. Jangocat says: Aug 14, 2010 5:37 AM

    He’s no different. He’s still an a$$hole criminal thug and most Eagles fans are disgusted by his presence. If the Eagles front office had any integrity they would have released him after his latest shooting at a party incident. It proves he still hangs out with thugs. In fact some of them were ex felons like himself. If he was the second coming of Joe Montana I still wouldn’t want this criminal on my Eagles…

  26. BDawk says: Aug 14, 2010 7:00 AM

    Vox, better keep your mother away from Michael Vick, she’d be the ugliest dog he ever had to put down.

  27. TheDPR says: Aug 14, 2010 7:05 AM

    Vick is back to the QB we saw for years in Atlanta.
    Still can’t read a defense. Still dumb as a box of rocks. Still fast on his feet. Still has a strong arm but poor accuracy. Still a horrible fit for the Eagles offense should Kolb get hurt but intriguing if they’re considering using the wildcat.
    He’ll be all right for mop up duty but I can’t wait until he’s off the team and playing for someone I can hate. It’s hard being an Eagles fan with that guy on the field.

  28. joetoronto says: Aug 14, 2010 7:53 AM

    He’s still a human turnover machine and dumb as a box of rocks.
    Oh ya, he’s back.

  29. poonhok says: Aug 14, 2010 8:56 AM

    Vick didn’t just “kill” dogs, he and his fellow savages TORTURED dogs in a manner usually displayed by serial killers…(like the GrimSleeper in Kalifornia)….

  30. Mooch says: Aug 14, 2010 9:43 AM

    Looked fast…against 2nd and 3rd team Jags who won’t make the team or ever play in the NFL.
    Nice pass deep to Riley. But, if a rookie threw the INT that Vick did you’d waive them immediately as someone who isn’t up to passing in the NFL.
    But don’t let those facts get in the way of the story.
    Maybe he can put up 200 yards against Archbishop Carroll next week and you guys can blow him even more!

  31. Mooch says: Aug 14, 2010 9:44 AM

    Seriously, look at the INT he throws.
    That is not an NFL QB. A real QB would be incapable of throwing that, it was sub-Delhomme.

  32. Mooch says: Aug 14, 2010 9:51 AM

    Tell me this…if Kolb turned over the ball and then threw an all-time inept INT, would the players on the sideline greet him with laughter and good-natured ribbing?
    No, they’d be concerned that Kolb was not prepared, because THE TEAM IS COUNTING ON KOLB TO PLAY AND HELP THE TEAM.
    But laughing and joking is what they did last night with Vick when he came off the field. They know Vick is a gimmick. A joke. An afterthought. A non-factor. A team mascot. A pity-charity case masquerading as an NFL QB.
    So they laugh and joke when Vick sucks.
    Because, after all, he doesn’t matter.
    And this is the PLAYERS telling you this.

  33. TheWizard says: Aug 14, 2010 9:58 AM

    What are u talking about never did a minute in jail he was in there for a year.
    Somebody wanna get this one? I quit arguing with Vick supporters some time ago.
    They’re not real good with understanding facts.

  34. Bigbluefan says: Aug 14, 2010 10:55 AM

    No matter how many years go by Vick is now and always will be a low life scum
    Yes other people kill dogs and dog fight and they to shall answer to there maker when the time comes.
    BUT those other people did not have the honor of being one of the elite one of 32 starting QBs in the NFL a million dollar man a kid that was given it all to throw a ball.
    Vick is a lower form of life then move of the other involved in dog fighting. The poor dirt bags that do it need the money Vick did it because he is a sick puck.

  35. megabeast37215 says: Aug 14, 2010 11:27 AM

    Vick is different, he kills cats now… he watched ‘gummo’ while he was on house arrest and got inspired.

  36. Jimee Johnson says: Aug 14, 2010 12:28 PM

    Hope Vick explodes, as in spontaneous combustion.

  37. jreed says: Aug 14, 2010 12:32 PM

    OMG a Michael Vick story….Quick, Let me think of a witty insult for Vick and the Eagles……Um…0-3gles, and Uh….Killed dogs so he’ll burn in hell…Ok done!
    Really guys, How do you hold on to that much hate for so long? Your lives must suck.

  38. ACS2 says: Aug 14, 2010 12:44 PM

    Route36West says:
    August 14, 2010 2:59 AM
    um no…. for vicks first 2 drives the jaguars kept there starters in …. also vick was playing with backups…. if he would of had desean, maclin, mccoy, avant, celek, weaver, and the whole starting o line he would of done even better. His int was only because the 5th string running back ran the wrong way and his fumble was because of 2nd and 3rd string linemen not blocking for him at all.
    Think before you talk
    ———–
    He did so wonderfully in those first two drives:
    5/8 for 92 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT, 2 rushes, 5 yds, 1 fumble
    He had two fumbles in the game, not one. And it doesn’t matter who’s blocking. You’re expected to get rid of the ball or hold onto it.
    Think before you type.

  39. ACS2 says: Aug 14, 2010 12:45 PM

    Route36West says:
    August 14, 2010 3:03 AM
    What are u talking about never did a minute in jail he was in there for a year.
    ———
    He never did a minute in jail for killing dogs. Reading comprehension.

  40. ACS2 says: Aug 14, 2010 12:48 PM

    Route36West says:
    August 14, 2010 3:11 AM
    Also you dont need blazing speed as a qb to break off huge runs because of all the open spaces qbs have to work with and the ability to throw the football.
    ———-
    “Ability to throw the football.” Are we still talking about Vick? Mike Vick?

  41. weezilgirl says: Aug 14, 2010 1:39 PM

    Let me tell you Vick supporters something about killing, abusing and torturing dogs. Some of the lowest dregs of our society started their killing sprees by torturing and killing animals when they were young. So, as long as Vick is on this earth, we will watch him. We will be vigilant.
    Look at his birthday “party”. He had no business being anywhere near a club on his birthday. He will do something stupid again and end up back in prison. He can’t make a rational decision about his personal life.
    Lots of people covered for him concerning the shooting at that party. People won’t suck up to him forever because he doesn’t have as much money as he did when he got the sweetheart deal of $30million. Fair money friends don’t stick around forever. But his reputation will be here forever.
    For MV and his supporters. Ignorance can be fixed but stupid is forever.

  42. Stinemonster says: Aug 14, 2010 1:52 PM

    BDawk says:
    August 14, 2010 7:00 AM
    Vox, better keep your mother away from Michael Vick, she’d be the ugliest dog he ever had to put down.
    ______________
    HAHAHAHA. BDawk is afraid his mother is going to lose the trophy.

  43. JunkYardDawg1156 says: Aug 14, 2010 1:54 PM

    # poonhok says: August 14, 2010 8:56 AM
    Vick didn’t just “kill” dogs, he and his fellow savages TORTURED dogs in a manner usually displayed by serial killers…(like the GrimSleeper in Kalifornia)….
    =================================
    EXACTLY poonhok – but the ignorant MV defenders/supporters always ignore that when they defend. They never speak of the cruelty, they either want it to be about race (IE: famucancer, blondbluedevils) or it was “dog fighting” or “only dogs” – anyone or anything that could do torture to sick, hurt & bleeding animals & enjoy it as MV & his posse did are evil, soulless POS’s. Within the first 5 questions on any psyche exam is: have you ever tortured or killed animals. Try reading a little bit on this MV supporters/defenders before making yourself look even more foolish than you already are on this subject. Add in his infecting women with sexual diseases they will carry for life, this guy got off easy…deserved 10 years, got a cupcake sentence for his crimes.

  44. Stinemonster says: Aug 14, 2010 2:02 PM

    It would be a great story if he got it together, became a great QB and became an inspiration for the kids who are trying to overcome their past.
    But…
    He’s just another thug. Just a matter of time before the Bengals are the only team that will touch him.

  45. JunkYardDawg1156 says: Aug 14, 2010 2:41 PM

    # jreed says: August 14, 2010 12:32 PM
    OMG a Michael Vick story….Quick, Let me think of a witty insult for Vick and the Eagles……Um…0-3 gles, and Uh….Killed dogs so he’ll burn in hell…Ok done!
    Really guys, How do you hold on to that much hate for so long? Your lives must suck.
    ———————————————–
    Really Vick defenders, how do you look in the mirror after defending such a rotten, sadistic, selfish, lying excuse for a human being??
    MV:
    Tortured and killed animals for fun for over 6 years.
    Ran an illegal dog fighting/organized crime operation for over 6 years.
    Blatantly lied to his employer, investigators & the NFL.
    Knowingly & selfishly spread STD’s
    Cheated on his taxes.
    Failed illegal substance/drug tests while out on bail.
    Defrauded & stole from investors in his companies.
    Illegally transferred money & merchandise to family members.
    Was advised by his father what he was doing was wrong, chose to ignore that input & continue with his incredibly stupid & sadistic acts.
    Ya know what really sucks? Seeing the forever Vick ignorant supporters make statements when you can just tell they are totally uneducated on the subject of MV.

  46. buddha says: Aug 14, 2010 3:23 PM

    Its funny because even the haters have to admit that Vick looks a lot faster than he did last season!!

  47. Karnon06 says: Aug 14, 2010 3:52 PM

    Get over the dogs already. Contrary to ignorant beliefs dogs don’t go to heaven. I see dogs as road kill everyday n someone probably meant to hit them where is the outrage. People in this world do a lot worst stuff and I don’t see u a-holes protesting. Give me a break with this a lot of serial killers started off killing animals bs. They started off killing people that’s y they are serial killers.
    So much hate its a damn shame.

  48. JunkYardDawg1156 says: Aug 14, 2010 5:00 PM

    # Karnon06 says: August 14, 2010 3:52 PM
    Get over the dogs already. Contrary to ignorant beliefs dogs don’t go to heaven. I see dogs as road kill everyday n someone probably meant to hit them where is the outrage. People in this world do a lot worst stuff and I don’t see u a-holes protesting. Give me a break with this a lot of serial killers started off killing animals bs. They started off killing people that’s y they are serial killers.
    So much hate its a damn shame.
    =====================
    So much ignorance & uneducated blind defenders on this subject. That’s the real damn shame.

  49. ACS2 says: Aug 14, 2010 5:34 PM

    buddha says:
    August 14, 2010 3:23 PM
    Its funny because even the haters have to admit that Vick looks a lot faster than he did last season!!
    ———
    Yeah, he was soooo impressive running twice for 5 yards with one fumble against a first-string defense.

  50. steve says: Aug 14, 2010 7:11 PM

    Fact Check: Vick served time in FEDERAL prison on the interstate gambling charges. He didn’t serve time in STATE prison on animal cruelty charges. Because he is wealthy and has really good lawyers he got a better deal than the average guy. The average guy doing what Vick did what likely serve BOTH federal and state sentences on seperate accounts. Furthermore, they would have had to serve probation for both federal and state charges, would have had a curfew and an ankle bracelet upon release. Because of their convictions, they would have likely not been able to find a job, or at the very least not a good job, and would have been prohibited from not only associating with fellow felons, but also even being in a bar in the first place (much less the curfew). So, Vick either violated his probation by being out past curfew in a bar, or he got those restrictions lifted (preferential treatment). Vick also got his old job (NFL quarterback) back upon release. So, Vick did not serve the punishment he should have nor did he get the punishment that the average guy gets for the same crimes.
    Additional fact check: A very common trait among seriel killers is a fascination with killing and torturing animals. They generally become desensitized to killing by doing this to animals. Vicks co-defendents even described him as being really into torturing and killing dogs and even when they tried to stop him, he would insist on it anyway.
    Speculation: His dad warned him on several occassions, and often attempted to nurse the dogs Vick fought and tortured back to health himself, to stop dog fighting and was clearly disgusted with it. Can you blame this on his upbringing, or is this something that’s intrinsic to Vick?
    Finally, if you’re expecting some kind of dramatic comeback by Vick, take it down a notch. Vick is style over substance. He may look good for a few plays, but in this game you have to have an accurate arm and you have to be smart.

  51. Mooch says: Aug 14, 2010 7:49 PM

    At least Vick comes cheap for these whopping 32 snaps a season!
    Oh…wait.

  52. BDawk says: Aug 14, 2010 11:57 PM

    “Stinemonster says:
    August 14, 2010 1:52 PM
    BDawk says:
    August 14, 2010 7:00 AM
    Vox, better keep your mother away from Michael Vick, she’d be the ugliest dog he ever had to put down.
    ______________
    HAHAHAHA. BDawk is afraid his mother is going to lose the trophy.”
    Taking one step back, that made no sense.
    Taking two steps forward, there is no point in fearing the inevitable. That’s why your Mom doesn’t fear you living in her basement.

  53. rambo says: Aug 15, 2010 12:37 AM

    Jealousy and hate will get you absolutely nowhere, I don’t care how you feel about what I say, I don’t care about how you respond to this comment, but the fact is you people talking all this bull about Vick, more than likely could care less about a dead dog, rabbit, cat, horse or any other animal, you are just people who have found something to gripe and hate on. For those of you who say had Vick been a everyday person and committed the crime he committed, that person would have recieved more time than Vick, well I know for a fact that is just bull, any other person would not have spent one day in jail for that offense. As far as him having a birthday party, when did that become a crime, he is not responsible for the actions of anyone other than himself. Bottom line is you can hate as much as you want, it’s not going to change a thing, he will still be playing, and still be making the money (which really is the issue) and there is not one thing you can do about it. You people sound like a bunch of silly ass kids, grow the f@@k up, you should know by now those that really matter, are not giving much of a damm about how you think or feel.

  54. rambo says: Aug 15, 2010 12:37 AM

    Jealousy and hate will get you absolutely nowhere, I don’t care how you feel about what I say, I don’t care about how you respond to this comment, but the fact is you people talking all this bull about Vick, more than likely could care less about a dead dog, rabbit, cat, horse or any other animal, you are just people who have found something to gripe and hate on. For those of you who say had Vick been a everyday person and committed the crime he committed, that person would have recieved more time than Vick, well I know for a fact that is just bull, any other person would not have spent one day in jail for that offense. As far as him having a birthday party, when did that become a crime, he is not responsible for the actions of anyone other than himself. Bottom line is you can hate as much as you want, it’s not going to change a thing, he will still be playing, and still be making the money (which really is the issue) and there is not one thing you can do about it. You people sound like a bunch of silly ass kids, grow the f@@k up, you should know by now those that really matter, are not giving much of a damm about how you think or feel.

  55. rambo says: Aug 15, 2010 12:55 AM

    Steve, you have absolutely no idea to what the hell you are talking about, it’s a lie that all defendants on probation or parole have to where a ankle bracelet, or have a curfew, or not allowed go into a bar, that’s bullshyt. If his employer wanted to hire him back, that was their right to do that, and the average guy would not have spent one day in jail for that crap, and they damm sure wouldn’t have been made to pay the kind of money Vick paid for the care of those dogs.
    Just wondering do you people ever get tired of hating, damm how the hell do you live with so much hate in you, it has to be miserable, and I don’t want to hear a dam thing about those dogs, because reality is, all of this hate has nothing at all to do with any type of animal.

  56. JunkYardDawg1156 says: Aug 15, 2010 9:29 AM

    @ rambo
    You post opinion to others facts – as usual no mention of the sadistic cruelty because as mentioned over & over MV supporters have no defense. Just want to tell others how to think & feel about MV. As for infecting black women with a disease they will carry for life, no defense for that either so what do you do? Call others names. Then you tell others what it’s really about – LOL – just like all MV supporters, all that comes out is drivel about hating. If it wasn’t so dismally sad it would be funny..
    Besides just blind race defending, why do you stick up for this torturous POS? As for what others know to be true on this subject or on your nonsense you are full of shit; if you didn’t care you wouldn’t have posted your ignorant, senseless garbage above.
    Funny the people that use the “hate” thing are either high school kids or blind race defenders. We can certainly tell from your post which one you are.
    This isn’t about race, but guys like you want it to be. No one cares about the $$$, many athletes are over paid, it’s understood & accepted.
    This is about MV being a soulless, evil sub-human, turd that killed animals with his bare hands for kicks while enjoying it. This is about someone so self-centered that they would knowingly infect women with VD. He never did one day in jail for his heinous cruelty, he did time for running an organized crime ring. As for what you know for a fact, seems like very little when it comes to MV. Just a lot of nonsense, nothing of value, certainly not talking about the things MV actually did. Of course guys like you never have a real defense for the unimaginable acts of selfish, sick behavior that is MV. Just keep calling others haters, that it!

  57. rambo says: Aug 15, 2010 11:18 AM

    Hey partner hold up, I didn’t mention anything about race. I can certainly tell you what I do know for a fact, had Vick been an average everyday person, he would not have spent one day in jail, not one, the FBI, would have never been involved, so that definitely throws the federal charges out of the window. Do you know how many people are charged with the exact same offense and you never hear a word about it, this has only been a big issue for you and others only because it was Michael Vick. Do you know the name of the young man who was recently on the Dr. Phil show…………….I didn’t think so, guilty of the same offense as Vick, also admitted on national television that he continues to support the mistreatment of animal (specifically dogs), including killing them and dogfighting. Bottom Michael Vick is not the only “evil sub-human, turd, that killed animals with his bare hands for kicks while enjoying it”. However he is the only one you people recognize.
    You are haters, and this is just a way to vent it. And to say it has nothing to do with the amount of money he makes if just a flat out lie, if he were a person making minimum wage or, just above or minimum wage, you wouldn’t give a shyt. Yeah you care about the money he makes, you just admitted that in your comment. Fact is with some of the things that are said about Vick and wishing him harm, just goes to show that you are no better than he is. Keep on hating and see just how far it gets you. I don’t condone for a moment Vick’s actions, I am a big dog lover, I actually own two, but I will not allow Vick’s actions or any other person’s action to bring me to the level of hate. And again I never mentioned anything about race, that was you, which makes me now think that maybe race does have something to do with it. And I will keep calling you haters because that is what you are. Make no mistake about it my comment has nothing to do with defending Vick.

  58. JunkYardDawg1156 says: Aug 15, 2010 1:00 PM

    @ RamboAgain (as most MV defenders do) you try & bring others into it. This is about MV not someone on Dr Phil or anyone else you want to tell us did worse. To say “others did far worse”, is MINIMIZING MV actions. You say you’re not a defender but you keep using the same nonsense that defenders use. Hater is a word used by hs kids & race defenders – There are 4 kinds of MV defenders: blind race defenders, VT amumni, Falcon hanger on’s & Eagle fans that refuse to see what a soulless, vile poor excuse for a man MV is. What other reason would anyone have for sticking up for someone that could do the things he did?
    $$$ has nothing to do with it, seriously who cares, you brought up $$$ in your post. The point was, it’s not about $$$, it’s about callous acts of heartless behavior on sick, bleeding hurt animals & no regard for women.
    Did you read the list above of MV’s crimes & behavior? Naw, too busy telling us you don’t care what others think, then post to the contrary. As far “how far not forgiving MV gets us”, thanks for more useless advice. MV is no good, he is a privileged athlete that believed/believes he is above the rules that bind the other members of society. He thought he could do whatever he wanted & the list a few posts up prove that.
    You call people that understand how heinous MV’s acts were haters. Are you a hater of people that know MV is a POS? Ironic you want to say that about others but don’t think of yourself in the same light. As always, MV defenders (even the ones that say they aren’t & still do) keep spewing senseless babble & they know all about the justice system & know how MV got railroaded. He deserved 10 years for his cruelty, he got 2 because he had a jock sniffing incompetent prosecutor. You want to bring other things into it but seem very uneducated on the real subject here, Mike Vick.
    No doubt you will keep calling names though, that all people that support MV do (even ones that claim they aren’t – LOL) – The guy is inhuman, no matter what others have done, it doesn’t minimize MV’s behavior or actions. Doesn’t take away from the things he did & the total disregard he had for sick animals & unsuspecting women. You keep telling yourself you’re not a MV supporter though, whatever gets you through pal…

  59. poonhok says: Aug 15, 2010 1:51 PM

    rambo says:
    he is not responsible for the actions of anyone other than himself.
    ======
    Unless it is beneficial to the argument of the Vick apologists when saying ignorant things like : Vick was just hangin’ with the wrong crowd…..

  60. buddha says: Aug 15, 2010 10:54 PM

    I think the reason all of these Vick haters have so much hate, is because no matter how much of a thug or lowlife they think he is, he STILL makes more money than 99% of them.

  61. JunkYardDawg1156 says: Aug 16, 2010 8:55 AM

    @ buddha
    You, just as most MV supporters, refuse acknowledge why the court of public opinion sees MV as they do & keep making irrelevant, ignorant excuses for him. Plenty of thugs & lowlifes in professional sports making a lot of $$$, people do not feel the way about them as they do Vick. But you keep reaching…
    The reasons people still feel the way they do about MV are chronicled above in specific detail.
    Try a reading comprehension class, you & the rest of your woefully pathetic group need it.

  62. WildBirdOffense says: Aug 16, 2010 8:56 AM

    I like to talk about football in football related sights.
    Mike Vick did look faster and he definitely has his explosiveness back. If he hadn’t tripped over his own two feet, he MAY have had another TD reminiscent to the one he had against the Vikings years back.
    He still looks faster than anybody on the field.
    BTW, Kolb threw some passes he shouldn’t have thrown, but overall, he showed the zip and accuracy young playmakers like Desean and Maclin need to perform. No more dirtballs means the Eagles offense will be even MORE prolific!

  63. ACS2 says: Aug 16, 2010 1:09 PM

    buddha says:
    August 15, 2010 10:54 PM
    I think the reason all of these Vick haters have so much hate, is because no matter how much of a thug or lowlife they think he is, he STILL makes more money than 99% of them, just like 99% of the players in the NFL–you know, the players no one seems to hate as much as Vick.
    —————
    I fixed your post.

  64. ACS2 says: Aug 16, 2010 1:10 PM

    WildBirdOffense says:
    August 16, 2010 8:56 AM
    I like to talk about football in football related sights.
    ————-
    Weirdo. Stay far away from PFT if that’s the kinky shit you’re into.

  65. Route36West says: Aug 16, 2010 10:47 PM

    He did so wonderfully in those first two drives:
    5/8 for 92 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT, 2 rushes, 5 yds, 1 fumble
    What is that suppose to be bad? He was still playing with 3 3rd string linemen 2 2nd string linemen and backup wrs,rb, and te against starters.
    I would like to see Jon Kitna, Jim Sorgi, and who ever backs up the Redskins do better with BACKUPS against STARTERS

  66. ACS2 says: Aug 17, 2010 9:33 AM

    Route36West says:
    August 16, 2010 10:47 PM
    I would like to see Jon Kitna, Jim Sorgi, and who ever backs up the Redskins do better with BACKUPS against STARTERS
    —————-
    OK, so you’re viewing him AS A BACKUP. Fine. So many people on these boards tout him as the second coming that I assumed you were one of them. As long as you agree that his position in life now is an NFL backup, and a very poor passer, we’re in total agreement.

  67. tinabfrmtharich says: Aug 19, 2010 9:47 AM

    I thought this site was suppose to be used to talk about football, not to talk about someones personal life, that everyone seem to have there own opinon about. Do anyone of you guys live with Michael Vick to know his every move and what he does everyday,no you dont. So you can’t comment on something that you think you know, have the facts, as a matter of fact you need to be there, and then comment on what you saw.
    For the future ploease use this site for it’s intended purposes.
    Thanks,
    tinabfrmtharich

  68. JunkYardDawg1156 says: Aug 20, 2010 12:02 PM

    @tinabfrmtharich
    If you actually did a little research on MV instead of telling others what to comment on, you would know that MV is a no good POS that tortured & killed helpless, hurt & bleeding animals in some of the most horrific ways possible for FUN.
    If you bothered to do any research, you would know about him changing his name to Ron Mexico to receive treatment for herpes then knowing he had it, knowingly infected unsuspecting women with it & now due to Mike Vicks uncaring, selfish & asinine ways they will carry it forever ( all this info available anyplace if you took the time to actually read instead of blindly supporting him).
    The above info is fact, no need “to be there to see it” to know MV is a sadistic, inherent evil excuse for a human being.
    As stated above:
    The reasons people still feel the way they do about MV are chronicled above in specific detail.
    Try a reading comprehension class, you & the rest of the Vick supporters sorely need it.

  69. Maxiee says: Aug 20, 2010 7:55 PM

    Character counts and MV has no character. He is a low life animal killer. Football is about personalities whether you like it or not. Point in fact – Brett Favre. Yes, there is talent and ability that goes with the personalities. But rooting for a team or player who displays and participates in criminal behavior is difficult for most law abiding football fans. I have been a football fan all my life and love the game. But I won’t watch or support Philadelphia Eagle games or any other team that MV will be on. MV should not be playing football. He should be doing community service – specifically cleaning animal shelters for the rest of his life.

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