Playing or not, Roethlisberger will make his Heinz Field return on Saturday night

When the Steelers host the Lions on Saturday in Pittsburgh’s preseason opener, it’s unknown whether and to what extent quarterback Ben Roethlisberger will be on the field.

It’s also unknown whether and to what extent he’ll be booed off it.

In the wake of his Milledgeville misadventures, an unprecedented (by Pittsburgh standards) degree of hostility emerged locally, with the local media dropping the pom-poms and taking the gloves off — and residents sharing every unflattering anecdote imaginable regarding the man who has led the team to two Super Bowl wins.

More recently, the mood has changed, buoyed by the positive reception Roethlisberger received when camp opened, an event more likely to attract those motivated to embrace the fallen star than those who want to chant “she said no!”  Also, more and more Steelers fans seem to be realizing that, regardless of what the guy did or didn’t do on the night the lights went out in Georgia, the desire to win a seventh Super Bowl overcomes the inclination to 86 the starting quarterback.

“They’ve been awesome,” Roethlisberger recently told the AP regarding the reception he has received at camp.  “I
think and hope it will be awesome.”

But here’s the reality.  Plenty of seasoned season-ticket holders no longer care for the guy, and those folks likely don’t feel strongly enough about the situation to drive to Latrobe.  Also, boos carry a lot more effectively than cheers.

So we expect a mixture on Saturday night, but we also expect the boos to be audible.

Not as audible as they’ll be, however, whenever Roethlisberger plays in another town.
 

82 responses to “Playing or not, Roethlisberger will make his Heinz Field return on Saturday night

  1. she said no! she said no! she said no!
    rape! rape! rape! rape! rape! rape! rape! rape! rape!
    rinse and repeat. then rinse again, for a real long time.
    hell it’s a preseason game, lets have a brawl in the stands.

  2. If there is a GOD he will be booded by every person who loves a women whether its their daughter, wife,mother or sister.

  3. First: The boos will be minimal at home games.
    Second: He always gets booed at away games.
    Third: She said “OH!”

  4. ‘those who want to chant “she said no!” ‘
    AKA the ones who didn’t read the police report. She never SAID No. Look it up.

  5. “But here’s the reality. Plenty of seasoned season-ticket holders no longer care for the guy, and those folks likely don’t feel strongly enough about the situation to drive to Latrobe.”
    Reality? or your speculation from reading media reports?

  6. The feeling that Roethlisberger was unfairly punished by Goodell in the wake of his decisions regarding Young, Vick, Benson, V. Jackson, etc, has also brought some fans to see him as a victim of reverse discrimination and has brought back some support for him.

  7. It’s good to know that Pittsburgh area women will be safe for at least a few hours Saturday evening.

  8. The haters are crawling out of the crack like roaches. I live in NC but I am from PA and when I was up there in July most (over 100) people were behind Ben to be the Steeler QB. So all you haters say what you want but WE appreciate good football and a suspension for a player who hasn’t been convicted of anything is Goodell’s way of wielding his mighty sword. I do acknowledge that Ben, being a Pro athlete should be be more exclusive in his relationships BUT all YOU ASSES her seem to think you’d be any DIFFERENT if it was YOU! Dickheads

  9. Khall and Steelerfan9598 Well said.
    Yea she did say no when asked if she was raped. And she told the cop NO.
    @Connie, Well I hope he gets cheered by every woman that has a son that could be falsely accused by a bunch of lying sorority sisters.
    And albeit to what Florio would like people to believe I am a seasoned season ticket holder as is alot of my friends and not a one of us are upset that he is still there. We are glad actually, he is still there. And on the road, The Steelers usually get booed anyway. So That would be nothing new.
    So keep on trashing and bashing, Ben will be fine. He hasnt let it stop him so far and so what if he gets some boos, the same ones that are booing him at Heinz Field will be the same ones cheering him when he gets some wins. Things are not as bad as you would like to make them out to be. All the trashing of Ben in the media has actually changed alot of peoples minds. So keep on trashing. It is working.

  10. hopefully he won’t get bored and pee on the stadium. then again, if he does, he’ll just be imitating the fans…

  11. Keep fishing for more BS.. There won’t be more than a couple hundred Steelers fans out of 64,000 that boo him tomorrow or any home game this season unless his playing on the field warrants boos.

  12. Big Ben should be suspended for a year not 4 to 6 games. He is a perverter!! I hope the Steelers Fans leave the seat empty when Ben steps on the field and his yellow pant will be like a lot of red (period)..

  13. @# Bens Attorney says: August 13, 2010 10:06 PM
    “…So keep on trashing. It is working.”
    OK. Ben’s a scumbag who plies college girls with alcohol, corner’s them in bathrooms while his bodyguard stands at the door, and allegedly sodomizes an extremely drunk young lady. All this, after walking around the bar, by his own admission, with his (reputedly gray) penis hanging out of his pants.
    But please, do continue to keep defending this scumbag under the guise of team loyalty.
    Also, Rapenstein, Rapelisberger, and Rapey McRapesalot.
    Let the rest of us know if you’d like more.

  14. He won’t get booed any harder in road games, as the Steelers fans usually produce a better turnout than many of the opponents’ home crowd.
    It has been known for years that nobody travels better than the Steelers, as they have fans all over the country.
    That said, I’m awfully disappointed that Dixon is not getting an equal shot; it has seemed like Lord Byron has been the shoe-in replacement from the start, which is not at all what I was hoping for.

  15. The man was never proven guilty of any crime other than lacking intelligence.
    If you watch/listen to the accusers testimonies you will understand why charges were never applied.
    To call a man a rapist when the evidence proves otherwise is pernicious.
    It is a shame when the court of public opinion sides with a drunk fraterity girl who followed him from bar to bar wearing a DTF tag.

  16. @sixburgh
    Hey asshole if it was any one of us our ass would be in prison right now…the only reason he is out of jail is because he BOUGHT his way out…any dumbass can see that…

  17. If Goodell had any common sense, he would drop this sham of a suspension altogether or at least reduce it to two games……….

  18. Florio, you don’t speak for Pittsburgh, and you really don’t have a clue what the people in Pittsburgh think about Ben right now. You are “speculating”, which in actuality is nothing more than your opinion.
    Ben is going to take his punishment and for all anyone knows he has kept his nose completely clean. Do you have any evidence that he has not?
    He will likely hear some boos tomorrow night, but as time goes on they will reduce. And if he plays well and stays out of trouble, the home fans will embrace him like they always have. Bank on it.
    And, are you telling me Ben has never been booed at away stadiums? Who cares why they boo him? They will boo. Life will go on.
    And Ben will kick the ass of the opponents more times than not.
    The haters are doing more than anything else to galvanize more people to support Ben. Great jobs, morons. You are working in Ben’s favor now. Watch as the more they boo and make stupid statements while ignoring the facts, the more the supporters cheer and build in legion.
    GO STEELERS!

  19. “More recently, the mood has changed”
    The mood changed as soon as the video and transcript of the false accuser’s testimony was released.
    Anyone with 1/2 a brain cell could tell she was clearly full of shit.
    That’s when the media and 99% of fans who were against Ben, realized that they had jumped to conclusions before the facts were revealed.

  20. joe6606 said…
    “Anyone with 1/2 a brain cell could tell she was clearly full of shit.”
    *******
    Actually, she was full of Big Ben’s semen because he raped her.

  21. # steelerfan9598 says: August 13, 2010 9:50 PM
    ‘those who want to chant “she said no!” ‘
    AKA the ones who didn’t read the police report. She never SAID No. Look it up.
    ===
    Sure she did, when she was asked by the cops that night if she had been raped. She said No.

  22. @ pooflinging Monkey
    OK. Ben’s a scumbag who plies college girls with alcohol, corner’s them in bathrooms while his bodyguard stands at the door, and allegedly sodomizes an extremely drunk young lady. All this, after walking around the bar, by his own admission, with his (reputedly gray) penis hanging out of his pants.
    And you were there to hear all this and see all this, you were an eyewitness. For one Ben didnt have to ply anyone with alchol they were already drinking when they met up with Ben and his friends. Her friends bought her drinks for her at the first bar. She said so herself.
    And the accuser herself said in her testimony that she told Ben and I quote ” lets go to the bathroom” and was seen by witnesses going to the bathroom willing and happily. Never no mention of any cornering or sodomizing, The poor victim couldnt even remember what postion she was in , Oh thats right she said he did her while she was sitting in the peeing postion, Which is a far cry from being sodomized. And I think you read Deadspin to much . I will leave it at that . So you keep all the name calling up all you want, will just be that much sweeter when he is back and winning games. And Oh dont you worry I will keep defending him, he did nothing wrong outside of act like most men. That is all and if I condemned him for his behavior then I would have to condemn most of the men I know. So that is not a problem defending Ben. No problem at all,
    So you keep spewing the hate. Scumbag,.
    @joe6606 Well said , I agree. Alot of people bought into the medias reporting of this and didnt wait for the facts. I know several people that said they were wrong.

  23. Florio,
    Won’t you feel like a fool when Ben gets a rousing ovation the first time he’s back behind center taking a snap in Heinz field. Pittsburghers know better not to boo an innocent man who is a victim of false, malicious accusations.
    Enjoy it while you can, jerking it with your toupee while you type this trash with your free hand.
    And all you haters know you’re just spouting this negative BS because you’re afraid to watch your team get their asses handed to them when Ben is back from his BS 4 game suspension. This is more motivation than the Steelers need to kick some ass big time this year.
    Go Steelers!

  24. All you Most Successful Team in the NFL hater’s barely have a leg to stand on anymore.
    Florio, you are an idiot. To elaborate that point, I ask everyone reading this to read this article again. Most of the people in Pittsburgh are all for Ben since the ACTUAL FACTS came out. You morons can keep hoping the world sees things your way, but everyone with a modicum of intelligence knows just how full of crap you are. People can actually read and understand evidence presented to them, even if you want to turn a blind eye and try to destroy and INNOCENT MAN’S reputation because he kicks your whatever sorry team you root for’s ass up and down the field almost every game. The Most Successful Team in the NFL is going to be strong again this year, so I understand the sudden frenzy of Ben hate. It’s easier to talk crap when we haven’t had a shot to beat you yet.
    She did say no. When asked if she was raped by Ben Roethlisberger.

  25. Ben is a great player to watch, always fun seeing him scramble around and make the big play. Hopefully all that has happened can be put behind. Despite what I say when I make fun of him, it’s hard to believe those two alleged victims since they couldn’t keep their stories straight and it’s sounds like they were looking for quick cash out of the ordeal.

  26. I think it’s fascinating that while so many are willing to give Big Ben a pass for his pattern of poor behavioral choices, many of the same folks strongly condemn Vick for his poor behavioral choices. Vick abused animals and, as a result, was suspended from the NFL, served time in prison and will only has a fraction of the status and salary that he once had even if he keeps his nose clean for the rest of his career. Roethlisberger raped a woman (the second time he was accused of this as a pro) and, as a result, will serve a four to six game suspension with no jail time. People on this site has called Vick less than human for what he did. Is abusing animals somehow less humane than raping a woman? How can we give one man the benefit of the doubt and not the other?
    By the way, to those who questioned the integrity of the woman who filed the complaint, if a woman states that she was raped, shouldn’t that at least be taken seriously enough not to blame her for what happened? None of us were there, so we don’t know if she said no or resisted or not, and that should be left for a jury of Ben’s peers to decide. But to say that a rape victim wasn’t raped based on how much she did or didn’t protest is like blaming the dogs themselves for the abuse they endured rather than Vick because they never bit him while being abused by him.
    You have to ask yourself, if it was your daughter in the situation, would you feel the same about this?

  27. brownsfn19 says:
    August 13, 2010 10:45 PM
    @sixburgh
    Hey asshole if it was any one of us our ass would be in prison right now…the only reason he is out of jail is because he BOUGHT his way out…any dumbass can see that…
    ——————————–
    Hey moron so your saying he bought off the DA the police and the state police HMMMM ? So how much did this cost ? We all know just being a Browns fan you have to be dumb but you take the cake

  28. Cushing Will Kill You says:
    August 13, 2010 11:18 PM
    joe6606 said…
    “Anyone with 1/2 a brain cell could tell she was clearly full of shit.”
    *******
    Actually, she was full of Big Ben’s semen because he raped her.
    ————————-
    Cushing Will Kill HAS NO BRAINS BECAUSE THEY FOUND NONE OF BENS SEMEM learn something before talking it will help you from looking like a ass . But then again there no help in the world for that

  29. Can’t believe that none of the posters on the board haven’t royally screwed up once or twice in their lives and used bad judgement to various extents. I sure have. And Ben has – (and there is no convictin of rape –validated by the police reports…take the time to really read the pages and pages). I’m fortunate to have been given second chances. Let’s allow Ben the same opportunity for a second chance. I’ll be wearing my #7 jersey when he returns to the field!

  30. To the Fixsburgh fans, defend Big Ben all you want, to the objective outsider, the following facts are not in dispute: Ben employed cops to escort his victim to the bathroom stall, he walked around the bar with his penis hanging out, and the 20 year old girl was obviously drunk and almost completely defenseless prior to Big Ben springing into action.
    If you want to say she wasn’t raped, go ahead, Ben Rapesagirl comes off looking like the sexual predator that he is. Why is it that in today’s age where girls throw themselves at pro football players on a frequent basis, Ben feels the need to approach women this way? I don’t know that answer but it does point to the fact that your QB is a deviant, plain and simple.

  31. Quite the sexual deviant that Pig Ben is. Stooler fans, you need to let that sand out your vag, you are QUITE defensive!

  32. The boos will be drowned out by cheers, simply because Squealer nation is too stupid to know any better
    Bens Attorney says: August 13, 2010 11:38 PM
    And you were there to hear all this and see all this, you were an eyewitness. For one Ben didnt have to ply anyone with alchol they were already drinking when they met up with Ben and his friends. Her friends bought her drinks for her at the first bar.
    ———————————————————-
    So YOU were there? You heard all of that and saw all of that? Her friends got her drunk and not Ben? You SAW this?
    You believe her when she says nothing happened in the bathroom, but you DONT believe her when she says Ben bought her and her friends drinks. In other words, Ben can’t possibly do anything wrong in your blind, crossed eyes, so he MUST be innocent……because you were there and you saw and heard everything….
    Right?
    Who knew that Squealer nation was full of so many morons and cowards…

  33. steeltown22 says:
    August 13, 2010 10:03 PM
    Didn’t you write this article before?
    –At least once. Florio’s milking that cash cow so much, there’s a bunch of air coming out.

  34. Ben will never hears boo’s in Pittsburgh. SOrry to burst your bubble Foolio. I wonder if you’ll write an artice talking about how he was cheered after the game?
    How often does Kobe Bryant get boo’d?

  35. speedboy41 says, “Vick abused animals”
    Might I suggest you look up the word abused. Geez, Vick killed them and in a manner that suggests he is a sadistic psychopath. Add to that fact that Vick has other strikes against him including passing STD’s to other women, using drugs and running an illegal gambling ring.
    I am no fan of either one but if I had to pick who is lower on the ladder, Vick is the one.

  36. Most of you act as though you have never been to a club. Well, I’m inviting you to come out of your silly ass glass house and take a look. The women in a lot of these places are worse than the men, especially college (frat) women. If Ben did anything wrong, arrest his ass. But, they couldn’t find anything.
    Like T.O said…….”That’s my Quarterback”…….LOL.. 🙂
    @brownsfn19
    Suck it up like she did bitch.

  37. speedboy41 says: August 14, 2010 5:39 AM
    “You have to ask yourself, if it was your daughter in the situation, would you feel the same about this?”
    You mean if she was underage, lied about it with a fake ID to gain access to a club where alcohol was being served, drank herself unconscious while wearing a DTF t-shirt?
    You mean like that?

  38. @brownsfn19
    You are an idiot & likely some fat A** Browns fan who can barely get off the couch.
    @speedboy41
    M. Vick WAS convicted of heinous crimes against animals. In a FEDERAL court no less. I see no similarities what so ever.
    Ben made some poor choices perhaps BUT he wasn’t convicted or even charged. He is an elite QB and will be respected for this in Pittsburgh. And he apparently has used these circumstances as motivation since everything I have heard is that he has been nearly perfect at training camp so far.

  39. njhitman says: August 14, 2010 7:21 AM
    “Actually, she was full of Big Ben’s semen because he raped her.”
    This one is perfect.
    A perfect example of a clueless ass-clown totally lying and making shit up just to further his own anti-Steelers agenda.
    too funny…
    your pain is our joy.
    please, never stop.

  40. Of course steeler fans will cheer him. All they care about is getting another ring. Steroids, cheap-shots and rape allegations mean nothing in comparison to that for a steeler fan.
    They are what they are, and that won’t change in this case.

  41. # Louis says: August 14, 2010 8:54 AM
    Let He who has not Sinned cast the first stone.
    _____________________________________
    Don’t you mean “Let he who has not been accused of sexual assault twice in the last year cast the first stone?”

  42. 3octaveFart says:
    August 14, 2010 9:30 AM
    njhitman says: August 14, 2010 7:21 AM
    “Actually, she was full of Big Ben’s semen because he raped her.”
    This one is perfect.
    A perfect example of a clueless ass-clown totally lying and making shit up just to further his own anti-Steelers agenda.
    too funny…
    your pain is our joy.
    please, never stop.
    ————————————–If you knew how to read this is what I said . So I will enjoy you pain of being a dumb ass moron and go back to school
    njhitman says:
    August 14, 2010 7:21 AM
    Cushing Will Kill You says:
    August 13, 2010 11:18 PM
    joe6606 said…
    “Anyone with 1/2 a brain cell could tell she was clearly full of shit.”
    *******
    Actually, she was full of Big Ben’s semen because he raped her.
    ——————– —–
    Cushing Will Kill HAS NO BRAINS BECAUSE THEY FOUND NONE OF BENS SEMEM learn something before talking it will help you from looking like a ass . But then again there no help in the world for that

  43. Sad. So what most of you “Steelers fans” are saying is that because he wasn’t convicted then it’s ok. So if your daughter comes home crying cause she was raped and can I.D the man but the cops don’t arrest him then she should just shut up and deal with it. And i thought Vikings fans were dumb asses.

  44. # plainnasty says: August 13, 2010 9:53 PM
    The feeling that Roethlisberger was unfairly punished by Goodell in the wake of his decisions regarding Young, Vick, Benson, V. Jackson, etc, has also brought some fans to see him as a victim of reverse discrimination and has brought back some support for him.
    ____________________________________
    I agree. That’s another reason BR should be happy he got suspended by GOODELL and not his team. I have always felt that was arranged between them for a variety of reasons, that possibly being one. Besides I don’t think there are many Steelers fans who are that against him anyway, even pre suspension. Certainly not enough to boo him.

  45. Funny how Steeler fans are still in denial lol. He might not of gotten convicted. That doesn’t mean he didn’t do it. I mean, his #1 pickup line is, “does this rag smell like chloroform?”.

  46. FOR THE RECORD, she said NO twice, when asked if he raped her, and when asked if she wanted to alter her statement for a fourth time.
    The man has been CHARGED with NOTHING, no evidence, let it go…..you all are the same idiot who cheered after Raw Lews got away with murder, Donte Stalworth only got a slap on the wrist and was able to sign with another team ratther than in jail for the rest of his life, and when Jamall Lewis ratted his best friends out to spend minimal time in a federal prison, before returning to his team.
    Boo him all you, want, you will still be owned when he returns.

  47. @Bens Attorney …
    Hey, girl! Excellent comment on women with sons. Wish the haters would just hate and spare us the self-righteousness.
    @CKL …
    I supported suspension but believed it should have come from the team. Never thought of it that way–good point!
    @JimmySmith …
    You misstated several case facts. Apparently you read only a few media accounts rather than all the witness statements. And obviously you didn’t listen to the DA’s full press conference. But why is that sooooo important to an NFC North fan?
    @pageant-judge …
    ROFLOLOLOL Honey, you took a wrong turn! You were looking for TMZ or Us Weekly or someplace where they post about what girl a fella took to the team picnic. This is a FOOTBALL site–or supposed to be. Maybe the guy didn’t want his girlfriend exposed to the press and football illiterate gossipmongers like you LOL

  48. straightup says: August 14, 2010 11:02 AM
    Sad. So what most of you “Steelers fans” are saying is that because he wasn’t convicted then it’s ok. So if your daughter comes home crying cause she was raped and can I.D the man but the cops don’t arrest him then she should just shut up and deal with it
    —————————————————–
    That’s it in a nutshell. They’re too stupid and naive to believe that the justice system in this country is severely flawed and corrupted, and that sometimes, guilty people DO walk. Hopefully, none of them have any children at all, because all that would do is add to the problem. There are enough stupid people in our society as it is. As proven by Squealer fans, stupid breeds stupid.

  49. sex offender or not… ben’s return to an offense with a depleted o-line, and no running game, will expose him as the mediocre qb that he is.

  50. Every Ben article on this site since the allegations has been well crafted by the authors to get the Nfl fan to hate Ben and make his life on and off the football field near intolerable.
    Will Florio’s grand scheme pay off?
    Well part 1 flopped at Latrobe, will part two flop tonight?
    Will Florio turn 3 anti Ben signs in the bleacher seat as a win for himself?
    Will Florio take credit for the usual road boos as his only saving grace?
    Honestly, how many of the 60,000 fans that fill an nfl stadium read this site, 500 tops?

  51. um. ummmmmmmm.. ummmmmm let me think about this .. ummmmmmm OOO COOL..(valley girl voice) those were the words of an alleged rape victim..lmao She changed her story more than Florio changes his sexuality….its obvious he didnt rape noone. Besides you cant rape the willing. More n More has been brought to light about the first chick too…. She wanted her coworker to fly to a game in Pitt so she could try n hook up with Ben… and then wanted to go through the hotel records to get Bens cell number… fkn stalking bitch.
    Chewy you shouldnt even be allowed to have an account here.. cant understand a damn thing you typed.
    Im sooooooooooooo tired of hearing the “if you had a daughter”…….. what about the scenario ” what if you had son who declared his innocence,Dna proven, Would you still call your son a rapist???”
    You cant just go around accusing men of rape and NOT have any evidence to prove your claim. She claimed he PENETRATED her UNPROTECTED but from the get go the Doctor said he seen no signs a rape occured… What about the witness who seen Ben n the girl sitting in the hallway talking?? All of this was to have occured in less than 10minutes…. Cmon now..
    GO STEELERS>> GO BEN!!!!

  52. @straightup and Jaydub …
    1. Don’t put words in the mouths of “all” Steelers fans. We’re a diverse group. Some hated Ben before this. Some think he’s guilty, some completely innocent, and some–like me–think he’s innocent of sexual assault but deserved his suspension for being a reckless jackass.
    2. You’re ranting about a rival team, nothing more. That’s why you’re making blanket generalizations about Steelers fans, Ben, and criminal justice without checking any facts.
    3. IF you’d researched American criminal justice, you’d know we’re statistically more likely to be wrongly convicted by our flawed system than wrongly freed.
    IF you’d researched the evidence in Georgia, you’d know the medical exam found the accuser didn’t have vaginal intercourse with ANY man that evening. You’d know investigators and prosecutors didn’t find credible evidence to support an arrest, let alone a charge. People of conscience don’t declare a man guilty based on ZERO evidence just because they don’t like him or his employers.
    IF you were genuinely concerned about protecting women, you’d be appalled by false rape accusations–which are increasingly common–and focus your energy on actual sex offenders rather than ranting at rival fans on football blogs.

  53. Deb says: August 14, 2010 3:41 PM
    2. You’re ranting about a rival team, nothing more.
    ———————————————————–
    Ahh, Ben’s official fluffer finally makes an appearance.
    I’m a Giants fan. Last time I checked, there isn’t anything resembling a rivalry between the Giants and the Squealers. Nothing at all. I dont have a problem with that team, but I have a huge problem with Ben and the people who blindly defend him and his actions, which appears to be about 90% of Squealer nation.
    And before you say the inevitable, yes, Lawrence Taylor is a scumbag rapist, just like Ben. They can both go F themselves as far as I’m concerned. You can say Ben did nothing wrong, but I’d bet my life on it that you’re wrong as hell.

  54. @Jaydub
    You can say Ben did nothing wrong, but I’d bet my life on it that you’re wrong as hell.
    ————————————————
    God don’t I wish that was actually feasible for all you Ben hating morons.

  55. @Jaydub …
    All of the 32 teams are rivals to one another. When you refer to the team as “Squealers,” you seem to have an ax to grind.
    Among the many ironies of the way this has played out on PFT is that I wouldn’t blindly defend my best friend, let alone a football player, without fact-checking. And I’ve never said Ben did nothing wrong, but have always supported his suspension. He’s been an egomaniacal jerk to fans and behaved like a reckless, entitled jackass.
    You’re betting your life on the adage about smoke and fire, and on your personal dislike of Roethlisberger rather than on a dispassionate review of the evidence. Another irony about this case and the one in Nevada is that the evidence in both cases is quite definitive–IF anyone were interested in studying it and understood what they were reading.
    No, I wouldn’t have mentioned LT. For one, that’s not my style. And these cases involve different statutes and aren’t in any way comparable.

  56. Deb says: August 14, 2010 7:50 PM
    All of the 32 teams are rivals to one another. When you refer to the team as “Squealers,” you seem to have an ax to grind.
    ———————————————
    Then you dont understand the concept of an NFL rivalry. All 32 teams are obviously against each other, but a rivalry is an entirely different animal. And I don’t have an axe to grind. I just like to ruffle an occasional feather.
    You’re betting your life on the adage about smoke and fire, and on your personal dislike of Roethlisberger.
    ————————————————–
    And you’re basing your own opinion using the very naive approach that all guilty people are always found guilty, and on your personal love for the Steelers and Roethlisberger.
    It’s a proven fact that when there is smoke, there is likely fire somewhere in the general area. Wealthy people often buy their way out of trouble, Deb, which is why you rarely, if ever, see a celebrity go to prison. It doesn’t mean they’re innocent, and I assumed that you understood that. Guess I was wrong.

  57. “It’s a proven fact that when there is smoke, there is likely fire somewhere in the general area.” — Jaydub
    What? lolol

  58. Steeler-lady says: August 14, 2010 2:27 PM
    Im sooooooooooooo tired of hearing the “if you had a daughter”…….. what about the scenario ” what if you had son who declared his innocence,Dna proven, Would you still call your son a rapist???
    ______________________________________
    If I had a son that was accused of rape twice in the last year I would realize that he has a real problem.

  59. @Jaydub …
    All 32 teams are competing for the Super Bowl, so “rival” is applicable in generic terms. I wasn’t speaking of rivalry in the Steelers/Browns or Cowboys/Eagles sense of the word.
    I’m basing my opinion on a thorough review of the evidence. I’m an experienced journalist and researcher who’s spent years writing on legal and medical issues. My brother and sister-in-law are criminal defense attorneys. I know how to review case evidence and have, not only legal professionals, but also medical professionals who can answer any questions I have. And I haven’t been naive about much of anything since my age was in single digits.
    I’m capable of dissecting the evidence in this case piece by piece, discussing the medical findings, the DNA testing method, etc. So far, you’ve just declared the guy guilty based on your views about celebrity justice. You haven’t offered any factual material at all–not even any data to back up your celebrity justice declarations.
    Yes, justice can be manipulated. IF you did your homework, you’d find more often than not, it’s manipulated to secure wrongful convictions.
    The medical evidence in this case was enough to disprove the accusation. The only thing the accused stood to gain by paying off the accuser would have been a retraction–but she refused to retract. So it’s obvious there was no payoff. Logic 101.
    The guy is an ass, just not a sex abuser.

  60. Deb says: August 15, 2010 4:02 PM
    So far, you’ve just declared the guy guilty based on your views about celebrity justice. You haven’t offered any factual material at all–not even any data to back up your celebrity justice declarations.
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    Thats because I have better things to do with my time, rather than having a “thorough review of the evidence” against a guy that I don’t know personally, and one who wouldn’t piss on someone if they were on fire. The fact that you can even admit that you’ve spent more than 90 seconds actually studying this case in great detail is a testament to the sad state of your life.
    You did all of that just to be able to come in here and defend him. Thats hilarious. It’s even funnier that you think he’s not a sex abuser, considering that two people have accused him of it. You yourself said that he treated people like shit. What makes you think he’s not capable of rape, or an attempted sexual assault?
    Whatever. Stay under your rock with the blinders on. If he did nothing wrong, he wouldn’t have to miss the first 6 games of the 2010 season.

  61. Jaydub, the one wearing blinders would be the guy making judgments without doing any factual research. Yep, I spent hours going over the case files to learn whether the QB of my football team was a sex abuser. But since I didn’t know where the research would lead when I started, I didn’t do it to defend him. I did it to find out what happened. And it was a more educational use of my free time than playing video games or watching TV.
    For the umpteenth time, I didn’t say he did nothing wrong; I said he isn’t a sex abuser. And he’ll miss only four games.
    I’ve spent a lot of time with abuse victims through the years, and done a lot of research on abusers. Sorry to burst your bubble, but rudeness isn’t a likely indicator that one is a sex abuser. You really are just making this up as you go, aren’t you? Glad to know you have no ax to grind.

  62. Deb,
    You ramble. What about the 16 year old in GA? What about him pee’ing on a golf course and exposing himself? People saw him do that.
    PIG. You need to do more research. Dixon played very well last Sat. night also. FAT Rapistburger sat on the bench all night. Too bad the storm didn’t hit HIM. I watch on You Tube the “she said no” chant during the draft. Too funny.

  63. You haven’t been around for a while RebaT. Figured you were in rehab. Obviously it didn’t take. Better luck next time.

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