Browns score 14 points early at Lambeau

Last year, the Browns opened the preseason against the Packers at Lambeau Field.  Cleveland didn’t score a point in four quarters, losing 17-0.

This year, the Browns scored 14 in the first quarter alone at Lambeau.

It started with an 11-play, 80-yard drive, with quarterback Jake Delhomme completing six of seven passes for 66 yards.  Running back Jerome Harrison finished the effort with a four-yard scoring run. 

On the next drive, sparked by a fumble from running back Ryan Grant, Seneca Wallace led the Browns 13 yards in three plays, ending it with a 13-yard pass to receiver Brian Robiskie.

The Packers have since narrowed the gap to seven (Aaron Rodgers to Greg Jennings for 25 yards), but the good news for the Browns is that, under both Delhomme and Wallace, they’ve looked like an actual NFL team.  And that’s something that didn’t happen last year until December.

76 responses to “Browns score 14 points early at Lambeau

  1. Cue burning river claiming the browns to the best team in the AFC North… Anyway, I hope they’re pulling their stuff together, I like more competion during the season. Go ravens!

  2. ah here come the cheeseheads back. browns look a bit more attentive on offensive, defense, needs to stop bringing the house and cover.

  3. And the Packers mighty D has picked up right where it left off, getting walked all over by a less than stellar offense.
    This is what happens when your penny pinching GM refuses to address team needs in the offseason.

  4. And the Packers mighty D has picked up right where it left off, getting walked all over by a less than stellar offense.
    This is what happens when your penny pinching GM refuses to address team needs in the offseason.

  5. Oh noes! The Packers 2009 Preseason Championship is in jeopardy! It’s so hard to be repeat champs in this league today… so hard.

  6. wonder if our punting game will improve, saw grant get hit in the head, hope he’s alright, our secondary could improve(again).

  7. i dvred the game and just started watching it. the first drive was great and i hope it carries over to the reg season. go brownies!

  8. Yea, im sure a great drive from Jake freakin Delhomme will carry over into the reg season!! Keep dreamin, losers

  9. Browns looked like they improved greatly. Kudos to them and their fans–>Our D needs to step the F up!

  10. Dearest Majik Bullet,
    Last year, the Pack’s 3-4 defense was #2 in the league. Please explain to everyone here how they have again been walked all over by a less than stellar offense.
    Love,
    Allison
    Austin, TX
    PS: You spelled “magic” wrong.

  11. It’s so nice to see the Baltimorons trolling thru a Browns post. It proves to me that you know that your Ratbirds are going to have to account for the CLEVELAND BROWNS this year.
    All I have heard from Florio and his little Baltimore and Pittsburgh parrots on here is that the CLEVELAND BROWNS don’t have a chance to compete.
    Well turds…I’m here to tell you that THE CLEVELAND BROWNS are on their way to reclaiming the AFC North, starting this year.
    Laugh your asses off. Better yet, lay your money down, if you have anything left from your unemployment checks. It’ll soon be your turn to say, “wait ’til next year…”
    And with the first pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, the Baltimore Ravens select…

  12. if you packer fans want to blame somebody blame the tightwad albino. packers will be battling for 3rd in the division.

  13. How about Colt McCoy going 5 for 10 for 25 and 2 INTs before going out of the game injured ? The Browns need to hire the little ambulance that used to come out on to the field from Madden ’93. Every time the Mister Salty Pretzelman gets a knick or booboo, it can come out and scoop him of the field. We will even let Chomps the dog drive. (Snap) See you in 2011 Colt.

  14. I think it is so funny reading the posts on here claiming gloom and doom, or SuperBowl…..ppl, its the FIRST EXHIBITION GAME. Teams are working on stuff, get a grip already!!!

  15. people who love to bash jake delhomme were the same d-bags that picked on retarded kids in elementary school.

  16. Mean and Nasty says:
    August 14, 2010 9:51 PM
    Yea, im sure a great drive from Jake freakin Delhomme will carry over into the reg season!! Keep dreamin, losers
    ———————————————–
    @ Mean and Stinky,
    Speaking of dreaming the Browns will be the WORST NIGHTMARE for your team and many other opposing teams, TURD!!

  17. Much Adew about nothing…
    This is glorified training camp…..Please….the Browns still suck, but it is delightfully embarressing to the Cheesecurds…
    SKOL VIKINGS

  18. GBPackers, your team will improve the more depth that is provided on the D-Line. I am a Browns fan, but I have rooted for Green Bay since Art Modell took the Browns from us and created the Baltimore Rat-birds. I think the 3-4 defense with Capers is well run, but a few things will take some time. B.J. Raji is a beast, but he needs to get on the field and develop into either a nose or an end. Asking him to play 2 separate positions will mean his growth suffers. The other is that the pass rush OLB’s need to get more pressure. Clay Matthews can be the only pass rusher in that system. Brandon Chillar should not be playing OLB in the 3-4 system. He is a natural weakside OLB in a 4-3, or a weakside ILB in a 3-4. They have to find a way to replace Aaron Kampman with another pass rusher more suited for a 3-4 defense.

  19. Much like one preseason victory means little, so does a preseason loss.
    I’m glad GB got smacked a little. It will get them focused and get the “chosen ones” attitude out of their heads.

  20. Holmgren will fire Mangini and take over head coaching duties the morning after the game against the Patriots, if not sooner.

  21. With NO pass rush, good teams will be able to dissect the Packers pass defence at will. The Packers offence will need to score 35+ points to win games.

  22. I love how Packer fans say this game doesn’t mean anything. The same Packer fans who also said, just last year, that they would beat the Cardinals because they owned them in the preseason.
    Granted, the loss doesn’t mean a whole lot, but the thing to take from this is that the pass defense is not fixed. The first team was torched by Delhomme and Wallace, not exactly top tier guys.

  23. Majik Bullet says: August 15, 2010 8:57 AM
    I love how Packer fans say this game doesn’t mean anything. The same Packer fans who also said, just last year, that they would beat the Cardinals because they owned them in the preseason.
    ======================================
    Ummmmmm, no. Maybe some Packer fans said that because we played them in week 17 and kicked their ass, but definitely not preseason, Majik Mullet! But, as we all know, the Pack as well as 30 other teams ended up having the same outcome…….

  24. GBPackers
    Yes, some of your genius brethren did say they would beat the Cards based on the preseason. I specifically remember Supersuckers doing so. At any rate, that Week 17 game might have well have been a preseason game, the Cards treated it as one even though McChubby played his starters all game to pad stats.
    And no, just because you don’t win it all doesn’t mean you had the same outcome as all the other teams. The Packers lost in embarrassing fashion in the Wild Card Round. That’s not the same as the Vikes losing the NFCC game, and it’s not the same as the Rams finishing 1-15.

  25. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says:
    August 15, 2010 12:36 AM
    packers will be battling for 3rd in the division.
    —————–
    And you’ll be battling the guy wearing the helmet for the best seat on the short bus. Good luck with that one. I’ve heard he has a nasty right cross.

  26. Majik Bullet says:
    August 15, 2010 8:57 AM
    Granted, the loss doesn’t mean a whole lot, but the thing to take from this is that the pass defense is not fixed. The first team was torched by Delhomme and Wallace, not exactly top tier guys.
    —————
    And they played a vanilla defense without several of their best players. Oh noes!!!1!! We goin down!!!1!
    You’d best get on the line with your butt buddy in Mississippi. Sage Rosenfeffer used up half his TD quota for the season last night.

  27. Majik Bullet says:
    August 15, 2010 8:57 AM
    I love how Packer fans say this game doesn’t mean anything. The same Packer fans who also said, just last year, that they would beat the Cardinals because they owned them in the preseason.
    ===================================
    I love how Vikings fans think this pre-season loss means everything, contradictory to last season when you maintained it meant nothing.
    Silly Vikings.

  28. mattgso says: August 15, 2010 7:00 AM
    Much like one preseason victory means little, so does a preseason loss.
    ____________________________________
    Agreed.
    But it does seem that from last year’s PRESEASON to this year’s PRESEASON, the Browns look much improved. That’s all that can be compared right now. They couldn’t even compete with GB in preseason last year. GB’s offense was a good test for their D because it has a great QB and great WRs.

  29. Majik Bullet says:
    August 15, 2010 10:33 AM
    Yes, some of your genius brethren did say they would beat the Cards based on the preseason. I specifically remember Supersuckers doing so.
    ——
    Then why don’t you take Supersuckers to task for it rather than attribute his stupidity to all of us? If we blamed all Vikings fans for the idiotic statements made by those on the fringe, your quotes would be thrown all over this site.
    ———
    Majik Bullet says:
    August 15, 2010 10:33 AM
    And no, just because you don’t win it all doesn’t mean you had the same outcome as all the other teams. The Packers lost in embarrassing fashion in the Wild Card Round. That’s not the same as the Vikes losing the NFCC game, and it’s not the same as the Rams finishing 1-15.
    ———-
    Embarassing fashion? No, losing in embarassing fashion is what happened when your boyfriend and the queens went to Arizona.
    How hypocritical (and typical of you) to take two OT losses, both caused by turnovers and call one embarassing and one not. Rodgers’ fumble was unfortunate, but not a result of an idiotic decision.

  30. Shitterson
    It’s embarrassing because the Packers mighty D gave up 51 points to an average offense. That’s not embarrassing?
    And several key players out? Who, besides Matthews, was missing? Bigby? You clowns have been saying all offseason how he was washed up and not going to start anyway. Al Harris? Are you really counting on much out of him?
    As for taking Super to task for his own stupidity, I will agree, he is a considerable amount less intelligent than some others. But he wasn’t the only one to say it, and all of you crowned yourselves Preseason Champs last year. The reason I tend to lump you together as one large group of idiots is because, well, you’re one large group of idiots. It’s not the fringe who is saying these things, it’s the overwhelming majority.

  31. Also Shitterson, you’re right about Rodgers’ play, it was not the result of an idiotic decision, it was the result of multiple idiotic decisions. First, holding the ball way too long while facing an obvious blitz, not throwing it away while basically watching said blitzer come at him from the front to destroy him, not protecting the ball when being taken down, and finally deciding to kick the ball right into the arms of the defender.
    And by the way, who mentioned Favre anyways? We were talking about the Packers, yet you once again feel the need to talk about a player who has been gone for 2 years.
    Move on, it’s becoming quite sad. I bet you’re the 30 year old guy who still wears his letterman’s jacket down to the local bar on Friday nights, proudly sporting that junior varsity letter you “earned” as a senior on the gymnastics team. Quite sad.

  32. They are still letting the tight end and third receivers get down the middle on them. Same shit as last year. Gotta clean that up. Oh and the special teams still suck. Do they have a returner that can catch a ball?
    One bright spot was Aaron Rodgers. Dude is pretty damn good. Now if they could just have some semblance of a running game.

  33. im a big browns fan and it was great to see them really compete. i’m not convinced we have a really legit shot at the afc north crown but it was good to see some life out of the offense after last year.
    something to build on.

  34. # Majik Bullet says: August 15, 2010 10:33 AM
    The Packers lost in embarrassing fashion in the Wild Card Round. That’s not the same as the Vikes losing the NFCC game, and it’s not the same as the Rams finishing 1-15.
    ====================================
    Magic Mullet,
    So an overtime loss in the playoffs is an embarrassing loss? Hmmm, what happened to the Vikes again? And yes its is all the same. Now I know the Vikes only goal last year was to just beat the Pack. Congrads. Will anyone remember the loser of the NFC Wild Card game of’09 five years from now? No. Will anyone remember the loser of the NFCCG in ’09 five years from now? No.

  35. Hey genius, if it’s all the same, then why does the 1-15 team get to draft before the Super Bowl loser? According to you, they finished exactly the same.
    Only loser fans of teams that didn’t meet their foolish expectations use that flimsy excuse.
    And if you would bother reading, you would see that the embarrassing part of the loss was surrendering 51 points to an average offense, not just losing in overtime.
    By the way, super creative with the Majik Mullet thing. Seriously, are you so simple as to only be able to come up with something that weak in trying to insult me? Why don’t you stick to using doo-doo head like the rest of the 3rd grade?

  36. # Majik Bullet says: August 15, 2010 4:38 PM
    Hey genius, if it’s all the same, then why does the 1-15 team get to draft before the Super Bowl loser? According to you, they finished exactly the same.
    Only loser fans of teams that didn’t meet their foolish expectations use that flimsy excuse.
    And if you would bother reading, you would see that the embarrassing part of the loss was surrendering 51 points to an average offense, not just losing in overtime.
    ===================================
    Majik Mullet,
    Its called parity, you shit shack! If your saying that the draft is the “reward” and “tell all story” for your season, then why don’t teams intentionally lose their remaining games when they can no longer make the playoffs just to have a higher draft pick!?!?!? This blasphemy you spew is truly absurd! And no, that was not embarrassing to score 35 points in the second half to force OT.

  37. GBPackers
    Really, watching an average offense hang 51 on your team wasn’t embarrassing? I watched the game with a group of Packer fans in a bar, and there sure was a lot of hung heads afterwards. But nice work on the 35 second half points, maybe if they hadn’t been busy getting blown out of the water, they wouldn’t have needed those 35 just to force an overtime where their QB would choke the game away, twice.
    I wasn’t saying the draft was the reward or tell-all, or that teams should tank. I was simply analyzing your idiotic statement of how 31 of 32 teams all finish the season the same. But you’re just not quite intelligent to grasp such things, are you doo-doo head?

  38. # Majik Bullet says: August 15, 2010 10:12 PM
    GBPackers
    Really, watching an average offense hang 51 on your team wasn’t embarrassing?
    ====================================
    If you think Kurt Warner, Larry Fitz, and Anquan Boldin was an average aerial assault then you obviously missed something. Was your golden locks or your purple cape covering your eyes? Kurt Warner owns all the Super Bowl passing yardage records!! And Fitz is arguably the best receiver in the game.
    But, hey, at least you lost in the NFCCG right?

  39. 3rd Grader says:
    If you think Kurt Warner, Larry Fitz, and Anquan Boldin was an average aerial assault then you obviously missed something.
    _________________
    First, I never said average “aerial” assault, just that they’re an average overall offense. Shocking to see someone of your intellect level need to twist words and lie in order to prove a point.
    But I suppose you would say that the 14th ranked offense in the league is top tier, right? I didn’t miss anything, just stating the facts man.
    And I didn’t lose anything either, I haven’t played football in years, and I certainly didn’t play in the NFCC game last year. So you’re one of those guys huh, think you’re a member of the team because you plop your 300 lb ass down on the couch on Sunday to watch the game and mow down 6 pounds of nachos, washed down by an 18 pack of Old Style, all while wearing a foam block of cheese on your head? I bet you bought stock too, and actually think you are a real NFL owner. Get a clue.

  40. GBPackers says:
    August 15, 2010 10:47 PM
    # Majik Bullet says: August 15, 2010 10:12 PM
    GBPackers
    Really, watching an average offense hang 51 on your team wasn’t embarrassing?
    ================= ===================
    If you think Kurt Warner, Larry Fitz, and Anquan Boldin was an average aerial assault then you obviously missed something. Was your golden locks or your purple cape covering your eyes? Kurt Warner owns all the Super Bowl passing yardage records!! And Fitz is arguably the best receiver in the game.
    ==================================
    What Majik is getting at is this:
    The Cards were the 14th ranked offense in the NFL. There are 32 teams . They are a slightly better than average offense, not elite.
    Their passing game is really good, the rushing offense was terrible.
    Yet this team rushed for 150 yards on that vaunted defense and gave up tons of yarage in the air.
    It’s not just the passing offense it’s about the whole offense and the packers defense sucked in both areas!
    Why can’t you packer fans just admit things and move on?
    You tell us that we need to do it, yet you don’t do it yourself.
    You look for any silver lining you can find.
    If you can’t find one, you revert to the 30’s-60’s championships.
    It’s mostly the reason I can’t stand most of you pukes. You just can’t admit it and let it be when the Vikings have a better team.
    There is always a yeah, but. It’s tiresome and quite sad that you have to cling any shred you can find about your football team to justify your well being.
    Get used to the meltdowns, it doesn’t appear that anything has changed from the WC game for your defense.
    On the plus side, they showed Capers on TV in the booth, at least he didn’t have to fart himself out of a sound sleep. So, you have that going for you, which is nice.

  41. Butt Bullet says:
    August 15, 2010 1:23 PM
    It’s embarrassing because the Packers mighty D gave up 51 points to an average offense. That’s not embarrassing?
    ———
    Losing in blowout fashion, as the queens did in week 13, is more embarassing than losing in OT. Period.
    ———-
    Butt Bullet says:
    August 15, 2010 1:23 PM
    And several key players out? Who, besides Matthews, was missing? Bigby? You clowns have been saying all offseason how he was washed up and not going to start anyway. Al Harris? Are you really counting on much out of him?
    ———–
    Yes, Al Harris. And of course we’re counting on a lot out of him. Why wouldn’t we?
    ————
    Butt Bullet says:
    August 15, 2010 1:23 PM
    As for taking Super to task for his own stupidity, I will agree, he is a considerable amount less intelligent than some others. But he wasn’t the only one to say it, and all of you crowned yourselves Preseason Champs last year. The reason I tend to lump you together as one large group of idiots is because, well, you’re one large group of idiots. It’s not the fringe who is saying these things, it’s the overwhelming majority.
    ————-
    No one crowned the Packers preseason anything last year. There’s idiots behind every team (like the THIS IS OUR YEAR!!! THIS IS OUR YEAR!!! guy) who not only sip the kool-aid, but bathe in and guzzle it.
    Packers fans were excited about the offense last preseason. We said it had the potential to be a prolific offense. And we were right. We were excited about the 1st team defense turning things around and allowing 13 points on 13 possessions in preseason play. And we were right about that as well. They improved to #2 in the league. We were not excited about the special teams play last preseason. That’s something we were also right about. There was nothing to be excited about there.

  42. Majik Bullet says:
    August 15, 2010 1:31 PM
    Also Shitterson, you’re right about Rodgers’ play, it was not the result of an idiotic decision, it was the result of multiple idiotic decisions. First, holding the ball way too long while facing an obvious blitz, not throwing it away while basically watching said blitzer come at him from the front to destroy him, not protecting the ball when being taken down, and finally deciding to kick the ball right into the arms of the defender.
    And by the way, who mentioned Favre anyways? We were talking about the Packers, yet you once again feel the need to talk about a player who has been gone for 2 years.
    Move on, it’s becoming quite sad. I bet you’re the 30 year old guy who still wears his letterman’s jacket down to the local bar on Friday nights, proudly sporting that junior varsity letter you “earned” as a senior on the gymnastics team. Quite sad.
    ————
    Does Brett allow you to pause your fellatio long enough to type these posts or do you have to wait until he’s done?

  43. Majik Bullet says:
    August 15, 2010 10:12 PM
    GBPackers
    Really, watching an average offense hang 51 on your team wasn’t embarrassing?
    ————–
    That team with an “average offense” absolutely throttled the Brett Favres in week 13. 30-10 before a garbage time “stat pad” TD by your lover. That’s embarassing–to let the vaunted Brett Favres defense allow 30 points down the stretch of the regular season while you’re chasing HFA.

  44. RC IV says:
    August 16, 2010 8:43 AM
    You just can’t admit it and let it be when the Vikings have a better team.
    ————
    I can admit it. Honestly, I don’t think there’s any way around it. The Vikings were better than the Packers in 2009. They finished with a better record (after playing a near-identical schedule), they won more playoff games and, oh yeah, they won two head-to-head games.
    I don’t think there’s any doubt–they were the better team.
    The Packers played much better football in the 2nd half of the season, but it’s anecdotal.
    My beef is with nimrods like Butt Bullet who insist Rodgers is terrible and the Packers suck. Clearly he isn’t and they don’t. You don’t finish a season 7-1 with a crappy team. You don’t put up a 100+ passer rating with a terrible QB. It’s the blind-as-a-bat idiot homer douches who can’t admit both teams are good.

  45. I distinctly remember you saying something about the 3rd preseason game being a “dress rehersal” for the regular season.
    I’d go back and re-post it, but you just accuse me of altering your post again.
    You know you said it, own up to it, you are halfway there, you admitted being wrong(WOW!!) that is the tough part.
    C’mon Ray Kinsella……go the distance.

  46. If it was the third preseason game then yes I would use that as a indicator when. i didnt realize it was their third.

  47. “It’s embarrassing because the Packers mighty D gave up 51 points to an average offense. That’s not embarrassing?”
    Last time I checked the Vikings got their ass whopped by that same Cardinals offense.

  48. Preseason or not if your 1st team defense gives up two TD’s to the opposing 2nd team defense and a third to their 1st team, all within short succession, then you can’t possibly be pleased with it.
    Yes it is preseason but the first seed of doubt has been officially planted and many of us look forward to watching it blossom. This team just seems poised for yet another disappointment.

  49. Last time I checked the Vikings got their ass whopped by that same Cardinals offense.
    ===========================
    Didn’t knock them out of the playoffs though, did it?
    You guys were the ones bragging it would be a cake walk for GB in the WC game.
    Just STFU and let it go. You lost and gave up 51 points. You’d think you’d temper your enthusiasm, but that wouldn’t be a Packer fan would it?

  50. Allliiieee says: August 15, 2010 12:17 AM
    Dearest Majik Bullet,
    Last year, the Pack’s 3-4 defense was #2 in the league. Please explain to everyone here how they have again been walked all over by a less than stellar offense.
    Love,
    Allison
    Austin, TX
    PS: You spelled “magic” wrong.
    ___________________
    Somehow I missed this Allison, but if you truly need an explanation, check the stat line of the Packers Wild Card game, see the 51 points and 531 yards given up, and then realize that Arizona had the 14th ranked offense in the league.
    PS: I know I spelled Majik wrong, it was intentional.

  51. Allliiieee says: August 15, 2010 12:17 AM
    Dearest Majik Bullet,
    Last year, the Pack’s 3-4 defense was #2 in the league. Please explain to everyone here how they have again been walked all over by a less than stellar offense.
    Love,
    Allison
    Austin, TX
    PS: You spelled “magic” wrong.
    ___________________
    Somehow I missed this Allison, but if you truly need an explanation, check the stat line of the Packers Wild Card game, see the 51 points and 531 yards given up, and then realize that Arizona had the 14th ranked offense in the league.
    But the less than stellar offense I was referring to in my previous post was the Cleveland Browns, did you not see what Delhomme and Wallace did to GB’s first team defense? Try to keep up.
    PS: I know I spelled Majik wrong, it was intentional.

  52. If this was the Vikings instead of the Browns – It would surely go down as the GREATEST victory in Queenie history.
    Queenies – Fix your frizzy hair, lose the braces, dump the polyester dress, drop some weight and get your finger out of your nose and maybe we’ll ask you to come dance with the big boys some day
    You can’t miss me – I’ll be the guy holding 12 world championships

  53. sand0 says:
    August 16, 2010 3:57 PM
    Preseason or not if your 1st team defense gives up two TD’s to the opposing 2nd team defense and a third to their 1st team, all within short succession, then you can’t possibly be pleased with it.
    —————
    You can’t possibly be pleased with your own understanding of the game of football. I’ve never seen a 1st team defense give up even one TD to the opposing team’s 2nd string defense, let alone two TDs.
    Maybe we’re watching a different game. I’ve never seen two defenses on the field at the same time. Are you watching futbol instead of football?

  54. 3rd Grader says:
    If you think Kurt Warner, Larry Fitz, and Anquan Boldin was an average aerial assault then you obviously missed something.
    _________________
    First, I never said average “aerial” assault, just that they’re an average overall offense. Shocking to see someone of your intellect level need to twist words and lie in order to prove a point.
    But I suppose you would say that the 14th ranked offense in the league is top tier, right? I didn’t miss anything, just stating the facts man.
    And I didn’t lose anything either, I haven’t played football in years, and I certainly didn’t play in the NFCC game last year. So you’re one of those guys huh, think you’re a member of the team because you plop your 300 lb ass down on the couch on Sunday to watch the game and mow down 6 pounds of nachos, washed down by an 18 pack of Old Style, all while wearing a foam block of cheese on your head? I bet you bought stock too, and actually think you are a real NFL owner. Get a clue.

  55. Adam
    I have never once said Rodgers is a bad player, not once. I have said he isn’t better than Favre, which he’s not. I’ve said he can’t win games that count, which he can’t. I’ve said he’s a great fantasy QB, which he is. I’ve also called him a choker, which he definitely is. But I do think he has a lot of talent.
    And you’re now trying to say that losing a regular season game while giving up 30 points and 398 yards is more embarrassing than losing a playoff game while giving up 51 points and 531 yards? I also find it troubling how you can’t go 2 sentences without talking about Brett Favre. You accuse me of fellating him, yet you’re the one who drags the guy into every conversation you have on this site. Obsessed much?
    And Super, yes you 100% did say it. I posed the question to you of what GB’s defense would do against a good QB like Warner in the playoffs, and how they could beat a good passing attack. Your response was something along the lines of “Well, they managed to beat them in the preseason”. Which I proceeded to belittle you for referencing a preseason game as any indication, and you responded by tucking tail and abandoning the thread, like usual.

  56. I saw what the 19th ranked offensive team did to the Brett Favres last season. A first-year starter passed for 300 yards and 3 TDs on the vaunted Favres defense. A RB topped 100 yards against the stout Favres defensive line. The opponent held all-world Favres RB Adrian Peterson to 35 yards. And the Brett Favres QB, Brett Favre, passed for 0 TDs and 1 INT while being sacked 4 times.
    I remember that game.
    Every team has a dud, Majik. Unfortunately for the Packers, they had a defensive dud in the playoffs. Unfortunately for the Vikings, they had several duds down the stretch and lost out on HFA. And then they had a brainfart from the old fart when it mattered most.

  57. “I have said he isn’t better than Favre, which he’s not. ”

    Rodgers blows Favre away when comparing their first two years as starters. Not even close. Rodgers in his first two years was incredibly better then Dr. Pick in his first two years.

  58. Adam
    The Packers’ dud was the Tampa Bay game. The playoff loss was a complete meltdown, which exposed the defense and all of its weaknesses. Did you see the Browns exploit it Saturday night? Get used to it.

  59. Supersuckers says: August 17, 2010 10:03 AM
    Rodgers blows Favre away when comparing their first two years as starters. Not even close. Rodgers in his first two years was incredibly better then Dr. Pick in his first two years.
    _______________
    This is incredibly stupid on so many levels. The two situations aren’t even comparable. Rodgers had 3 years to sit and learn from one of the best to play the game. Favre sat one year behind Chris Chandler.
    Rodgers took over a 13-3 team who previously had the #2 offense in the league, and went 17-15 in his first 2 years. Favre took over a 4-12 team who had the 24th ranked offense, and went 18-12 in his first 2.
    Rodgers had a chance to win a playoff game his second year starting, and he fumble punted it away. Favre had a chance to win a playoff game his second year starting, and he delivered a great pass to lead his team from behind to win at the end.
    But this isn’t even the point at hand. I said Rodgers wasn’t better than Favre, as in currently. Which he’s not. You manipulate and twist things around, and still make yourself look foolish. If you want to look at stats, Favre had better numbers in every significant passing category except for a slim margin in passing yards. His team also won more games. So in what way was he better than Favre last year?

  60. RC IV says:
    August 17, 2010 11:32 AM
    Super’s answer should be stunning.
    ————————
    Arod thankfully didn’t pick up Favre’s bad idiotic bonehead interception habit. Compare the two’s numbers their first two years. It truly is stunning.
    Wonderlic Rodgers 35
    Favre 13
    I’ll take Arod any day any game over Favre.

  61. Supersuckers says:
    August 17, 2010 12:14 PM
    RC IV says:
    August 17, 2010 11:32 AM
    Super’s answer should be stunning.
    ——————– —-
    Arod thankfully didn’t pick up Favre’s bad idiotic bonehead interception habit. Compare the two’s numbers their first two years. It truly is stunning.
    Wonderlic Rodgers 35
    Favre 13
    I’ll take Arod any day any game over Favre.
    ——-
    And thats why you will lose games. I would take Favre any day.

  62. Super
    You can’t even list stats right, you truly are useless. Why don’t we have a look at playoff wins in each player’s first 2 years starting. Favre has 1, Rodgers is the proud owner of a fumble-punt.
    Rodgers has never won an important game. It’s funny how you call Favre a choker, yet Rodgers has been unbelievably futile at closing out games.
    But back to the question at hand, please explain how Rodgers outperformed Favre last year.

  63. Dan Marion scored a “13” on his test.
    I gues that makes GayRod better than him too?
    Uff.
    You argument of Rodgers being better in his 1st 2 years is a straw man argument.
    We aren’t comparing careers here. (GayRod would lose that too.)
    Based on stats from LAST year, which Majik is talking about, overall Brett Favre was better.
    For you to keep going back to the ” well, Rodgers 1st 2 year stats are better” is inane.
    If that’s the only argument you have, I’d stop now.
    Or better yet, ask him how many titles the Vikings have.
    That’s you Packer fans stock answer when you’ve lost an argument.

  64. Super
    It’s also funny how you keep comparing Favre’s first 2 years to Rodgers, thinking it’s the same thing. The game was entirely different 19 years ago. For instance, in Favre’s first 2 seasons, there were a combined 3 4,000 yard passers, with a high of 4,116. In Rodgers’ first 2, there were 16, with a high of 5,069.
    Surprising that someone who views themselves as a big picture thinker doesn’t realize this. But using this logic, then you must think Bart Starr was just terrible, right? In 1967, the year they won Super Bowl II, Starr threw for only 1823 yards, while tossing 8 TD’s vs. 13 picks.
    Or how about this? In Starr’s first 2 years starting full time, he threw 22 picks, and 11 TD’s. In Don Majkowski’s first 2 seasons starting, he threw 31 picks vs. 36 TD’s. So Majik must have been better, right?

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