At the Senior Bowl, former Florida quarterback Tim Tebow caught plenty of criticism for a slow, looping release. And so he retreated to the football lab, fired up the P.R. engine, and emerged for his Pro Day workout with a new, compact throwing motion.
He wowed scouts and the media with his improvements, prompting some to simply ignore the reality that years of muscle memory and repeatedly reinforced instinct can’t simply be wiped away. The concern in some circles was that, once Tebow gets into a game situation, he’ll revert to his old form.
And, in his preseason debut, Tebow reverted on numerous occasions to his old form.
He did it initially on a beautiful deep pass that was dropped by a wide-open Matthew Willis. Though the Leftwich-style windmill didn’t hurt Tebow on that play, the dangers surfaced later.
For example, he was nearly stripped from behind when he dropped the ball down, and the half-second of telegraph time nearly resulted in an interception.
Also, he simply couldn’t get off a throw while being chased; he started into the catapult windup while rolling right, and he had to abort in order to avoid getting hit.
We’re not saying he’ll never be able to change his throwing motion, but he still has a long way to go to make the window dressing that made him into a first-round pick stick.
The good news? Tebow only uses the slow windup when firing something other than a short pass. And he showed decent accuracy with his old motion, ultimately leading the Broncos to a garbage-time touchdown, albeit taking the kind of lick that he likely won’t survive if it happens on a regular basis.
Yeah, Florio, and Usian Bolt runs with an unusual stride and only manages to win his races by fractions of seconds. Sooner or later it’ll catch up with him.
Give him time…too soon to tell if this will plague his career. This is what pre-season football is all about.
“Also, he simply couldn’t get off a throw while being chased; he started into the catapult windup whilr rolling right, and he had to abort in order to avoid getting hit.”
Were you not watching when he rolled to his right and while on the run, threw a strike 20 yards downfield? Oh, you just don’t put anything positive about the Broncos on your site…..that’s right.
Tebow had a solid game and I just cant wait to see all the haters with the stupid christian jokes try and make fun of Tebow now….he will be a solid QB in the NFL and tonight was just the beginning.
He still can’t take a snap under center.
Time will tell. It will take a lot of time to unlearn the bad habits. Tebow is a very fine …we don’t know what, yet, but he is a very fine something.
Trouble is, the Bonkos spent a First Round pick on this very fine something. That is not the worst mistake ever made in the NFL draft, though. Not by a long, long shot. Tebow will have his day.
But you have to wonder if it will be just the one day.
I’m not comparing the two in terms of experience and status, but Brett Favre does the same thing when he throws the bomb. He literally drops the ball down below his waist. So, maybe it’ll work out for him.
He and Quinn made Orton look like the second coming of Elway.
What a duechebag Florio is.
The guy was 8-13 for better than 100 yards. Plus, he scored a rushing touchdown. He had two passes dropped or his numbers would have been better and his passes were crisp and tight spirals.
Oh yeah, I forgot, this is part of the formula for Florio – make fun of popular athletes in order to generate web traffic. Oh well, no wonder the media sucks!
If you don’t believe me about the Favre throwing motion, check it out here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbmHO75i6gc
It might be worse than Tebow’s.
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You don’t want to be a superstar and play the Bengals, Bo Knows that, Tebow will learn it.
I missed the game but saw footage of him throwing at camp. I have never seen an NFL quarterback throw like him before. He looks slow and has terrible posture. I just can’t imagine that will work on the field with any consistency. BUT, luckily for the Broncos, Kyle Orton has seemed to be a steadily improving quarterback. Barring an injury Tebow can exist purely as a gimmick player. Not worth a first round pick by any means, and Josh McDaniels is this year’s Jim Zorn, so they do have that mess to look forward to.
He actually wasn’t bad at all, the one throw that reciever should of caught for show, and had a real bad throw that could of gone for 6. But hey, he’s a rookie, fun to watch him. Hopefully he can continue and have a great career.
Eh, 8 for 13 (including 2 drops), 105 yds, a rushing TD, 87 QB rating. Not great, yet not too shabby.
Wow! Fair criticism, I guess … This being his first pro action, I think Tebow did fairly well. While it was against 3rd stringers, he completed a decent percentage and a good yards per completion. And when you compare the 4 rookie QBs, I feel Tebow did the best. I mean sure, w/ an improved throwing motion, he could have been 13-13 instead of 8-13, but I give Tebow a passing grade in his first appearance …
“reverts” to moving the ball and scoring.
did you just say abort?
I predict this article could finish in the top 10 most commented articles of all time on this blog.
Tebow is bad, and McDaniels is worse
Pure hate Florio.
The kid looked great…and there is a lot to look forward to in Bronco nation in the coming years.
And the winner of the best performance for a rookie quarterback, week 1 pre-season goes to……………………..envelope please…..Joe Webb Minnesota Vikings.
Sorry coach Florio, but I just did not see it that way. The boy did okay his first time out.
Not a Tebow fan or a Tebow hater…simply saw it differently. Give him a chance coach.
tebos biggest bust of all time.. and him and his family hate black people
But he’s so good…
He is better than Quinn,not saying much there but in the red zone he does create problems for defenses.
Florio, you’re going to get crucified for your relatively accurate assessment of Tebow’s performance, by his legion of fans.
Stand back you Tebow hater (unless you say really nice things about him you’re a hater) here come the insults.
With Tebow fans and Bronco fans you’re either a loyal fan or you’re a hater, objectivity is not an option.
Teebow is a fraud, and I can’t wait until he gets exposed.
Lets face it, Tebow may not be the Hall Of Fame qb everyone wants him to be. And as a Browns fan i can say that one of the best moves they have made in years was getting rid of Quinn. I dont think he is an NFL caliber qb.
you can’t let it go can you? you’ve got something against the man and deep down inside you want him to fail.
grow up
Were you watching the same game, I’m a hater who was looking to hate on tebow. I thought he was good. of course shock articles get page hits and make you money. I have decided that you are a SKUMBAG and if i ever see you in public, I’m going to hang u upside down by your ankles and shake change out your pockets chump!
Live by the media …die by the media…listen, the guy is a hell of a leader, he’s an awesome athlete, he’s a team guy, but he is not an NFL quarterback. He’s reached the ceiling as far as potential and it’s not enough. His throwing motion, pre/post draft are two completely different motions. Call it like it is…
Tebow’s no Orton =), but I thought he looked pretty good out there… especially considering the crappy protection he (and Quinn) were getting from the scrub o-line. Best deep ball out of all the QBs on the field tonight, and more of a threat when things go south and/or when out of the pocket. All in all I was pretty impressed and it’s looking more and more like this throwing motion nit picking will be something everyone will laugh about some day… especially Tebow.
Wait until “his holiness” gets hit my a starting def player and not a 3rd or 4th stringer! He might not make it out of the preseason!
I thought he looked decent for a rookie playing his first ever NFL game. Had some good plays and some bad. Definitely think the Bengals tried to blitz him a little more than they normally might…try to knock the kid out or something. Maybe not. I thought he looked poised and commanded the huddle well. Kid’s O line was porous…and the center snapped one off his own butt cheek on one play.
Kid is a rookie learning the ropes. Give him a break. Did better than Quinn and Quinn has been in the league what, 3 years now?
Good start to your career, Timmy.
I thought he looked decent for a rookie playing his first ever NFL game. Had some good plays and some bad. Definitely think the Bengals tried to blitz him a little more than they normally might…try to knock the kid out or something. Maybe not. I thought he looked poised and commanded the huddle well. Kid’s O line was porous…and the center snapped one off his own bu** cheek on one play.
Kid is a rookie learning the ropes. Give him a break. Did better than Quinn and Quinn has been in the league what, 3 years now?
Good start to your career, Timmy.
Whatever. Tebow also completed 8 of 13 (a very good percentage), with over 100 yards and no INT’s in shortened play. He rushed for a score, and had a receiver drop an easy TD, all against a quality opponent. I’m not a Broncos fan, but I’ll call it like I see it. He looked pretty good for his first time out. Way better than Bradford did last night.
I saw his old motion a few times. Yes it is an issue, BUT…I think his awareness in the pocket is a bit more of a concern. I don’t watch much college ball so I don’t know if that was something he had issues with in college or if it is perhaps a result of a rookie trying so hard to think about everything he is supposed to be doing that he loses awareness/instinctiveness. There were at least two occasions when a guy was coming up on him from his blind side and he seemed to have no idea the guy was there. Most competent QBs have some sense of it and slide/move away. I have no dog in the fight as I neither hate nor love Tebow nor am I a Broncos fan.
I’m sure Broncos fans will be happy if he reverts to his college form…winning lots of games. He looked OK, not great, not horrible…OK. You can’t judge any player on a preseason game. Not a huge fan or hater of Tebow, but I hope he has a productive career. I may not want him as a starting QB but he is a guy I would want on the team.
Bubba thinks that hit Little timmie took causing that fumble, or whatever knocked a little beJesus out of him.
Tebow better not run too much in the pros. If he does, he will not last too long. He’s no Michael Vick where he can elude most big hits. He took the hits in college while running the ball. If he does the same in the pros, he will only last a few years. Learn to slide dude. Avoid the hits and last awhile.
Ran hard for a TD that we will see many more similar in the future from him. Threw a perfect 40 yard pass that hit wide open WR Willis in the hands that the receiver then dropped. Tebow in the very first pro game of his life playing with 3rd and 4th teamers looked a zillion times better than Quinn did tonight. A zillion!
The Broncos are going to end up severely regretting their choice of Tebow. Not only is he a no talent, but he’ll give them headache after headache espousing his kooky, intolerant, hateful views. They should have put more thought into their pick. This fanatical bigot Tebow must have a great PR agency. He’s a no-talent, nobody, yet seems to get his name in the papers quite often. Kind of like Zsa Zsa Gabor or Lindsey Lohan. Can’t wait to see him fail this season so we never have to hear about him or his skank mother again.
The Broncos are going to end up severely regretting their choice of Tebow. Not only is he a no talent, but he’ll give them headache after headache espousing his kooky, intolerant, hateful views. They should have put more thought into their pick. This fanatical bigot Tebow must have a great PR agency. He’s a no-talent, nobody, yet seems to get his name in the papers quite often. Kind of like Zsa Zsa Gabor or Lindsey Lohan. Can’t wait to see him fail this season so we never have to hear about him or his skank mother again.
Tim Tebow willed his team into the endzone. It was miraculous. He clearly has the blood of christ running through his veins. God speed Tim Tebow… God speed!
Also, he simply couldn’t get off a throw while being chased; he started into the catapult windup whilr rolling right, and he had to abort in order to avoid getting hit.
whirlr…nice sausage fingers florio. spell check is free.
He played pretty well, but the point of the article is correct..he did have that long throwing motion he had in college.
But it’s really not a throwing competition. It’s about Scoring points. You play to win the game!
I dont care if he throws it like Uncle Rico or shoots it out of his ass, Tebow will be a success. He’s a winner
and a great young man
Yeah, but dies he feel comfortable in Wranglers?
FinFan68 says:
He looked OK, not great, not horrible. Not a huge fan or hater of Tebow, but I hope he has a productive career. I may not want him as a starting QB but he is a guy I would want on the team.
———————————————- Geez… That’s the most wishy-washy post I’ve ever seen. So non-committal, I can’t believe you bothered to post it at all.
Greatone, you sir are an idiot. No talent, he only had one of the most prolific college careers and is off to what appeared to me of a solid NFL career.
Now for everyone out there who is knocking Tebow, watch the game. He had no time all night and when he did, he hit his receivers. When he did, his throws were crisp and on a rope regardless of his arm being too low and not at the holes in his helmet. He is learning and will be an elite QB and yes I said elite. I can think of plenty of QB’s (starters) who didn’t have the stats he did.
Take the hatred you have for the Broncos out of the equation and you’ll see he did quite well given the circumstances.
Oh and Florio, your an idiot.. Yes I said idiot.
Great athlete, but not an NFL quarterback unless this is the 1960′s. With his throwing motion he’ll take a lot of hits in a very vulnerable position.
# raidersteve413 says: August 15, 2010 11:05 PM
tebos biggest bust of all time.. and him and his family hate black people
………typical comment from an ebonics speaking , low class, criminal raider fan
For one…he did not revert back to his old form. Did you people at pft watch the game? I did he was just fine. He completed 8 of 13 with 100+ yards and a rushing td. Maybe Denver should let him play with the 1st string wr’s and that 1st deep pass he bad would of been completed. Also be did have that passing td but they called it back which was bs!! Tebow will do just fine in the NFL. Those are pretty good stats with 3rd and 4th string wr’s.
I don’t think that his motion looked good, but I think that in a couple years he can be a good QB. I think out of all the big name QB’s, he is the least NFL ready. He really needs to change his delivery though. It almost looks like a pitcher wining up to throw a baseball. He keeps the ball way too low, and then brings it up in a windup motion. He will lead the league in fumbles if he doesn’t change that. The ball should always stay above your chest. Keeping it at waste level is not going to work. That said, he looked very accurate, and he throws a beautiful deep ball. When you consider how dedicated to the game of football he is, as well as his arm strength and athleticism, I would be surprised if he wasn’t eventually a decent NFL QB. I still would have taken Clausen before him, and I think the Tebow pick was a bit of a reach. But I guess if you feel he is your franchise QB, you don’t want to wait around.
I’m a Miami fan when it comes to all levels of sports, and nothing annoyed me more than the hype that Tebow received in college. However, you have to give credit where credit is due, and I thought he looked great out there tonight. As one of my friends put it, he looked “Favre like” on a few plays when he made something out of nothing when the defense pressured him. The guy shuts his mouth, accepts his role, and does the best he can. What else can you ask for as an owner and/or a coach. By the way, thanks for Brandon Marshall Denver!!!
“Greatone” was looking in the mirror when he made his comments. To use his own words, intolerant and hateful, man this guy is one miserable person. We all understand, there are some people who simply hate good decent people. Anyone want to guess if this loser nobody “greatone” has ever done anything for anyone? While we aren’t sure how he’ll do in his NFL career, Tebow is truly a good person who has done much for his fellow man. Missionary work is not a job for the meek. I’m sure this loser nobody who hates him so much is simply a miserable person who blames the world for being a loser and most likely votes for people with “D’s” next to their names so he can stick to society and perhaps get even with the achievers in life.
The guy was 8-13 for better than 100 yards. Plus, he scored a rushing touchdown. He had two passes dropped or his numbers would have been better and his passes were crisp and tight spirals.
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Look, I’m not saying the kid doesn’t have a future in the league (only time will tell that), but you do realize he was playing against people who will most likely not make it onto the team right?
Tebow = (Steve Young- Accuracy) +( Vick – Agility) + (Vince Young- Deep ball)
Running QB’s always get everyone excited on their way to doing dick. Steve young was good because he stopped relying on his feet and learned how to throw (Big Mike Holmgren.)
Tebow will never start an entire season in the NFL. I don’t even think he is fast enough to be a good Wildcat option.
Also, Broncos fans are stupid. You all should be cheering for Orton. He is the best QB you have had since Jake Plum…. I mean Jay Cut….. I mean John Elway. Really, a lot of teams would welcome him with open arms (Jags, Bills, Niners, Cardinals, Browns, Rams, Bucs.) Appreciate what you have; a good- very good QB.
Even though I think Tebow will fail, Mcdaniels is an idiot, and the loss of Dumervil will kill their pass-rush, I still see a Wild-Card in their future.
Better to have pocket presence and leadership with accuracy than the “textbook” throwing motion. Queen Farve has the worst technique in the league and he’s done rather well. The so-called experts also blasted Aaron Rodgers for holding the ball high, but the guy is probably the most accurate in the league and has a cannon. Let the technique go and look at the guy to see if he can actually…. play.
I’m not a Tebow fan at all, but I thought he did all right for his first live action.
For the guy who was considered the longest term project among QBs drafted this spring, Tebow certainly came out of the gate looking the most “professional”. If Matt Willis hangs onto that ball, Tebow has one of the top QB ratings of the preseason.
@alan69: 5/5. Live to play another day, Timmy.
@greatone: He may not be HOF material, but a “no-talent, nobody”? Have you actually watched any of his college play? No talent? You really killed ANY credibility you may have had.
I’m a Broncos fan, and I think it’s the funniest thing I’ve EVER seen on PFT that Tebow had to “abort” a pass. Subtle humor, for a change!!!!!
@greatone.
Have you ever heard about this thing… about throwing stones and living in a glass house? Has Tim Tebow confessed his Christian Faith? Absolutely. How many times has Tim Tebow himself force fed you his religion? ZERO. that 4 letter network that damn near controls college sports they were in control.
Tebow has his beliefs… Now to the thing that matters how many games did Tebow’s teams win?
Will that translate to the NFL? Who knows. It won’t have anything to do with Tebow’s personal life.
and on a side note to call Tebow’s mother a skank and refer to him as a bigot… Really that’s what you have to throw up there? You’ve never seen either.
If that soon-to-be-on-the-street bum doesn’t drop that rope from Tebow, his stats look much, much better. It was a perfect throw.
And, by the way, if an ugly throwing motion means you won’t be successful, then someone please explain to me how Phillip Rivers does it. No one has an uglier throwing motion than him.
I do understand the concerns with Tebow and religion. If his influence spreads, players on both teams will start getting together in circles after games to pray, players might kneel to pray in the end zone after scoring a TD, and other players might start thanking God in post-game interviews. We can’t have that now.
he’ll give them headache after headache espousing his kooky, intolerant, hateful views
Sounds like you’re describing yourself, liberal.
For his first NFL action, the guy had a great start.
I think he passed Quinn on the depth chart already.
Not sure what some of you experts were watching.
meh, he’s going to be solid, not great. He’s still got a long way to go. Regular season football going against starters is different from these scrub matches. And even then, tebow did receive some pretty good licks going against these scrubs.
Wow, greatone, seems to me like you are the intolerant, hateful bigot here.
I thought the use of the word abort in this article, would have been very clever if it had been on purpose. Because Florio would have cracked a joke in parentheses if he realized he used the word abort. Mikey, you’re slipping
greatone says:
August 16, 2010 12:00 AM
The Broncos are going to end up severely regretting their choice of Tebow. Not only is he a no talent, but he’ll give them headache after headache espousing his kooky, intolerant, hateful views. They should have put more thought into their pick. This fanatical bigot Tebow must have a great PR agency. He’s a no-talent, nobody, yet seems to get his name in the papers quite often. Kind of like Zsa Zsa Gabor or Lindsey Lohan. Can’t wait to see him fail this season so we never have to hear about him or his skank mother again.
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Intolerant? Hateful? Your post above is a prime example of the very things you label Tim Tebow with! You even go so far as to call his mother a “skank”!? Why? Because they believe differently than you do on a variety of political issues? Why are you a football fan? Are you not aware that most teams get together for prayer before each game, and then after each game is over a large number of guys get together to pray at midfield to the very same God that you find so intolerant & offensive? Are you aware of the fact that it is YOU who would be held up as a pariah in an NFL locker room and not Tim Tebow because of your hatred and disdain for Christians?
You are a sad and hypocritcal little man bursting with all of the venomous characteristics you ascribe to others and in any NFL environment, would find yourself sitting all alone on the outside while men like Kurt Warner, Tory Holt, Brian Dawkins, John Lynch, Emmit Smith, LaDainian Tomlinson, Tony Dungy, Drew Brees, Derrick Brooks and Tim Tebow find their prayers, faith, and biblical message a VERY comfortable companion among their NFL peers past & present.
Go take your hate over to HuffPo, football wouldn’t like you…
HaHA Josh McDoogie Houser blew a 1st round pick on T-Blow!
You do know you can get H-Back faux QB’s in th e 5th to 7th round, right?
DEN will battle OAK for the cellar in the AFC West this year!
BaLeeDat donkey’s!
I don’t see this as a “hate” article at all. It seems pretty objective to me.
Yes he completed some great passes but he has a weakness that can be exploited on several levels in the NFL. Defensive backs and linebackers can see it coming and defensive ends can whack at it. Football is a game of inches and seconds.
The only way to shut up the critics is to win. Hopefully he’ll win in spite of that slow, strange throwing motion.
The motion still needs to be quickened, but how is this guy a “no talent nobody” haha. He broke records in the SEC, 2 NATIONAL (key word is NATIONAL, not Conference USA) titles, turned a scrub HS team to state title winners in the state of Florida. This kid is the total package, the only flaws you will see is Mel Kiper/Todd McGay turn into huge Tebow fans.
“oh Tim you’re just too good with the ball in your hands, your like an ugh… ugh.. H-back man!” — Mel Kiper
haters and doubters, will you still be doubting Tebow (no first name needed for the greatest) when he knocks your team out of the playoffs? Bow to the master fools.
Greatone, I will trust Josh McDaniels’ evaluation of offensive football players over yours (though I may be interested in your evaluation of right wing prospects in Minnesota). Not everyone is going to look like Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco coming out of college.
Tebow looks ahead of where Matt Leinart, Donovan McNabb, Michael Vick, Mark Sanchez and Trent Edwards were their inaugural seasons so I don’t know where you get the “no talent” tag from.
I think you are qualified to say you find him, the only 1st or 2nd round rookie signal-caller to find the end zone in the first week of preseason, to be lacking in skills. To say he has “no talent”, though, is to take a swipe at every college quarterback that has put in hard work, that can evade tacklers, that can make reads, that can throw the ball into a tight window as two defenders collide with him. If he has “no talent”, what do you have?
Additionally, I find the message of the Bible to be that ALL have sinned and ALL need repentance for the forgiveness of sins in order to receive grace. When has Tebow acted with bigotry? Because he encouraged women to NOT treat their fetuses with hate? Maybe the ad was misguided but he’s young.
As for why his name shows up in papers, he won a Heisman. He broke records. He’s gone on missions trips and has endorsement deals.
As for him causing headaches, you do realize Mark Brunell, Kurt Warner, Jon Kitna, Gerald McCoy, and others are all Christian, too? I admit it’s crazy what McDaniels is doing, but, neither you nor I know if he will cause headaches, and I’d have to say McDaniels has probably investigated this more than you and I have.
Florio forgot to mention how the Jacksonville Jaguars are going to move to LA because we didn’t draft this guy!
Tebow played against scrubs…. He sits in the same position Dennis Dixon does, actually Dixon performed better. 7-6 128 yds 1 td and 6 rushes for 31 yards. J.T. O’Sullivan was 7-15 for 118 yds….
Until he plays in a real game against guys that will be in the NFL in three weeks, I will continue my judgment that he is going to have a great career as a full-back and specialty player only!
I like the part of the game, best, when he got his ass handed to him.
One when Jeremy Miles #45 (Rook) blasted him from behind.
Then again when he got whacked at the goal line, albeit, for a TD.
I saw much improvement from my cincy kids in this game. Shipley, Gresham, Dunlap…. just lovin’ life
NickTheTitan says:
August 15, 2010 10:40 PM
Tebow had a solid game and I just cant wait to see all the haters with the stupid christian jokes try and make fun of Tebow now….he will be a solid QB in the NFL and tonight was just the beginning.
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Can we watch him play against players that will actually be on NFL teams opening day first?
Bob S. says:
August 15, 2010 11:57 PM
Ran hard for a TD that we will see many more similar in the future from him.
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You’re right about that. Once they switch him to fullback, he should get plenty of red zone touches.
So he has his own style. Nothing wrong with that.
Are you serious, Florio? If not for that drop, Tebow would’ve been 9-14, 160 yds 1TD, 1 rushing TD. That would’ve trumped what every other “Pro-Style, Quick-Release, Non-Windup, Prototypical, Rookie QB” ended up doing. He was essentially running for his life and managed to hold his composure. Yes, he was playing against the 3rd string D but he was also playing with his 3rd string O. Brandon Lloyd and Eddie Royal looked sharp and probably would’ve helped his cause…..get off the guys back and find someone else to pick on. I’ve seen plenty of positive reviews from analysts that actually played pro football.
That one shot he took knocked him into the next testament ! He has to get away from taking shots like that. He’ll shorten his career.
I thought for his first game with the spotlight on him he did great… this guy is a winner, too many times the NFL has banked on guys with a lot of talent, zero heart… Tebow has talent and maybe most importantly he has desire and heart… don’t bet against this guy, the NFL may have never seen a guy that wants to succeed more than this guy, how far that gets him we’ll see, but I’ll take my chances on a guy like this rather than a guy like Jamarcus Russell any day.
I love seeing those Broncos and Teblow nut swingers on here saying he looked great. HE PLAYED AGAINST OUR 3RD STRING DEFENSE!! If we had our 1st string D out there he would have been on his back every time. Dude was running for his life. I loved watching the Broncos fans jump up and cheer like a hampster just shot up their poop chute every time this clown completed a pass. You would have thought we were watching the 2nd coming of Peyton Manning out there. It was hilarious. Get off his nuts! He’ll never be a 1st string QB.
Florio, didn’t your mom ever teach you that if you can’t say something nice about someone, don’t say anything at all. I know you think think your job is to incite, but you’d be better off having valid observances than moronic opinions.
Hate Tebow all you want. He’s guaranteed, what, $8 million? How much are you guaranteed for writing your stupid articles?
What I really find hilarious are all those who hate him not because of his talent, or perceived lack of it, but they hate him for what he stands for. Best part is, he doesn’t care. The Bible says Christians will “be persecuted” for their stance on Jesus’ behalf. Some of you really need to try reading God’s Word before it’s too late. Eternity is a long time to burn in hell simply because you’re too ignorant or self-righteous to change. God bless.
If you mean Tebow “reverted to his old form” by throwing accurate passes, moving the chains, driving the ball down the field, making things happen, and putting points on the board, then you would be spot on, Florio.
His mechanics are completely irrelevant. Some of the greatest QB’s in the history of the sport had unorthodox deliveries. Changing his throwing motion would be a monumental mistake.
This guy is the real deal. Make no mistake about it. First game as a pro and he was clearly head and shoulders above virtually everybody on the field, starters included, especially the starting quarterback for the other team.
In two or three years this guy will be the Broncos starting quarterback and a bona fide NFL icon.
Deal with it.
talk about your haters, greatone, you give new meaning to the word. Is it him as a QB your hating on or that he has true faith in something? I think you are the one who needs to evaluate themselves…..
I just don’t get how everyone is saying he looked good. He was playing against 3rd and 4th string (practice squad) Defensive players. I would hope he can do well against them. Let Johnathan Joseph and Leon Hall play corners against him and put Michael Johnson, Antwan Odom and Geno Atkins up front to rush him and see how well he does. Chances are he falls flat on his face…err I mean his back in this situation. lol
Keep making fun of Baby Jesus Florio.
God is going to strike you down.
Its a joke, chill out before you send me to hell Bible thumpers.
Give him some time. Rome wasn’t built in one day, and Tim Tebow won’t become the ideal QB overnight. As for his throwing motion, his instinct is to revert back to his old form when in trouble, It won’t be like that forever. Once he builds up a comfort zone, Tebow will be just fine.
He stinks and I ‘pray’ for the day he faces a first team defense that isn’t the Lions. He will get killed and look like a punk. All of you touting his stats against crappy players need to understand this a little better.
I’ll never get back the 90 seconds of my life that I used to read this article. That’s what’s most depressing here.
Bronco’s and Tebow…..two disasters in the making. He can walk on water tho!
ejtowne- how about you aim that comment on the Teblow nut swingers. give him time, he’ll show his true colors of not being an NFL caliber QB. He played against guys who will be tackling dummies for starters in a few weeks. That’s why he looked AVERAGE. Put him against a starting D and see how well he does.
This team will win 2 games this season. Enjoy.
I could care less if he shoots the ball out of his ass. He got the ball to the receivers when and where it was supposed to be.
“and he had to abort in order to avoid getting hit.”
No pun intended?
Oh did anyone happen to see his parting of the Ohio River an hour before the game? I wish I had. He was going to walk on the water as well but Jesus wanted him to save some of his skills for later.
We can settle this once and for all. If there is a God he will be the greatest QB ever if there is not his career is over. Simple as that.
We knew this article was coming. Florio can’t help but rip on anybody from the Jacksonville area.
I thought he looked decent, and made an otherwise pedestrian game interesting..
Dude’s a rookie, give him a break..
RainBow did his thing against third and fourth stringers. Get over it.
Donkey fans think they have something here. Yeah right.
He looked just fine. First ever play at the NFL level. Where’s all the stories about how brutal Claussen was or how brutal Quinn was. Just have to take a guy, who had an overall very good beginning, and find major fault. Claussen has just as bad of a throwing motion and nobody bashes him consistently. At least Tebow has enough character to try to work on it.
Also, I find it funny that Tebow was set up to fail no matter how good he played. If he plays good everybody says it was against the 3rd stringers so who cares. If he plays bad they jump all over him too. Funny, Dixon played solid against the Lions third stringers and everybody says he should be starting. Don’t think he would have done any better than Leftwich if he had to play against the starters. But I guess that’s the media double standard again.
That deep pass he threw “with the bad throwing motion” was one heck of a pass.
For all of you haters especially nagaswan do you know anything about football? Really, the worst throwing motion ever? You people need to check your history and see some of the wild throwing motions that have been a part of the NFL. The kid has potential, and don’t give me that crap about he’s a first round pick. Before owners and GMS got so concerned about money most first round QBS didnt see any play for the first 2 or 3 years of their career. So if he takes a few years to learn his playbook and become a better QB then so be it. Tebow had one helluva cross the body throw that was caught and some others that were dropped. If after 3 years he isnt what people thought then so be it, at least he’s no Jamarcus Russell or Ryan Leaf. One more thing so many people have criticized Vince Young for his QB play and throwing motion and all he does is win and thats what its about in the NFL —– Winning!
Darth Gator says:
August 15, 2010 10:47 PM
What a duechebag Florio is.
The guy was 8-13 for better than 100 yards. Plus, he scored a rushing touchdown. He had two passes dropped or his numbers would have been better and his passes were crisp and tight spirals.
Oh yeah, I forgot, this is part of the formula for Florio – make fun of popular athletes in order to generate web traffic. Oh well, no wonder the media sucks!
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So that was 1st string defense he was playing against right? Oh wait no it wasn’t. It was the same Mickey Mouse defenses he’s been playing against all his career. Wait till he gets to see a real defense, then talk.
Tebow sucks and McDaniels is a moron. They’ll both be out of the league in no more than 2 years.
waste of first round pick.
His arm strength was impressive. The play he got rocked on was because the RB blew his blocking assignment.
He looked great for a rookie.
Quinn will be the 3rd qb sooner than later. Then when Orten inevitably gets hurt because our backup LTs are suspect, its Tebow time.
Orton looked great! Stay upright Orton.
I say this not being a Tebow fan in the least bit.
I thought he had good touch on this throws and I was really impressed with the placement of the throw while he was rolling to his right and threw on the run…
Overall I would give Tebow a “solid” game rating.
However he was playing against the talent he played while in college so lets keep things in perspective.
August 16, 2010 4:04 AM
greatone says:
August 16, 2010 12:00 AM
The Broncos are going to end up severely regretting their choice of Tebow. Not only is he a no talent, but he’ll give them headache after headache espousing his kooky, intolerant, hateful views. They should have put more thought into their pick. This fanatical bigot Tebow must have a great PR agency. He’s a no-talent, nobody, yet seems to get his name in the papers quite often. Kind of like Zsa Zsa Gabor or Lindsey Lohan. Can’t wait to see him fail this season so we never have to hear about him or his skank mother again.
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Intolerant? Hateful? Your post above is a prime example of the very things you label Tim Tebow with! You even go so far as to call his mother a “skank”!? Why? Because they believe differently than you do on a variety of political issues? Why are you a football fan? Are you not aware that most teams get together for prayer before each game, and then after each game is over a large number of guys get together to pray at midfield to the very same God that you find so intolerant & offensive? Are you aware of the fact that it is YOU who would be held up as a pariah in an NFL locker room and not Tim Tebow because of your hatred and disdain for Christians?
You are a sad and hypocritcal little man bursting with all of the venomous characteristics you ascribe to others and in any NFL environment, would find yourself sitting all alone on the outside while men like Kurt Warner, Tory Holt, Brian Dawkins, John Lynch, Emmit Smith, LaDainian Tomlinson, Tony Dungy, Drew Brees, Derrick Brooks and Tim Tebow find their prayers, faith, and biblical message a VERY comfortable companion among their NFL peers past & present.
Go take your hate over to HuffPo, football wouldn’t like you…
…just want to post this again. Great post!
Liberals always attack when they hear the real truth which threatens their horrible lives
So that was 1st string defense he was playing against right? Oh wait no it wasn’t. It was the same Mickey Mouse defenses he’s been playing against all his career. Wait till he gets to see a real defense, then talk.
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It was a Mickey Mouse o-line and WR corps, too. He did great for his first NFL game. Not saying he’s going to be a HoFer, but he’ll be a decent QB at some point in his career.
And to everyone saying he’s going to get hurt if he gets hit, get real. He’s been getting hit for probably 8 years now. He’s not built like a quarterback. He can handle a hit here and there.
This is coming from a Cowboys fan – no bias towards the Gator Nation, Tebow, Colorado, or the Broncos.
I love it.. People have to hate on the most popular guy in the league. Their own insecurity is causing them to hate, those haters will be wishing their team drafted him in a year or two. Keep it up Tebow, keep it up.
Okay, let’s face facts here, he was going against 2nd and 3rd string players but let’s not lose sight of the fact that his teammates on the field were also those 2nd and 3rd strong players.
He showed poise, leadership and toughness. I will take this any day.. Those things aren’t something you can teach or fix.
# steelers rule says:
Wait until “his holiness” gets hit my a starting def
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It’s amazing how STUPID people are because they can’t stand the guy. I’m not a holy roller and I frankly don’t give a rat’s ass what he has to say about religion or the world but that doesn’t color my evaluation of his talent. The fact is that he played against some pretty damn good defensive players at Florida and I don’t expect that he’s going to fold under pressure, whether they’re the first or the second team chasing and hitting him.
Listening to myopic Denver fans slather themselves in the holy juice of a third string quarterback who has yet to do anything in the NFL, is almost as much fun as watching Jets fans these past 8 months.
He didn’t just revert to it during the game. I saw the same thing when NFLN did a special at the Broncos training camp last week. It was a throwing drill with no defense and for the long passes, Tebow did the windup with the ball down at his waist.
I love seeing those Broncos and Teblow nut swingers on here saying he looked great. HE PLAYED AGAINST OUR 3RD STRING DEFENSE!! If we had our 1st string D out there he would have been on his back every time. Dude was running for his life. I loved watching the Broncos fans jump up and cheer like a hampster just shot up their poop chute every time this clown completed a pass. You would have thought we were watching the 2nd coming of Peyton Manning out there. It was hilarious. Get off his nuts! He’ll never be a 1st string QB.
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we also loved watching Kyle Orton carve up your 1st string D like a Thanksgiving turkey
oh yeah, and someone should tell TO not to run backwards after he has caught a pass for a 1st down…dolt
Some unbelievable comments. Tebow’s personal religious convictions have nothing to do with his playing ability. Greatone’s demented rantings are not indicative of all “liberals.” And some bloggers ridiculing Tebow’s faith or football skill is not an example of Christians being persecuted. People really need to get a grip.
The kid had a good game. He made some impressive plays but also had a couple of disastrous moments. Obviously he’s been working hard, and he still has a lot of work to do. It’s too early to make any judgment about his long-term prospects.
Jesus loves Tebow!
3rd string defense
thats what he played against, he probably faced better defenders in college
he’ll be a career backup unless mcdaniels moves him to the slot
end of story
Great one and Texas TeaBag
Good grief you guys are idiots.
1st pre-season game as a rookie and I personally think he did very good.
Will he be a great QB? Maybe, Maybe not. Will he be a better person than alot of us on this blog? More than likely.
The only difference between Orton’s performance and Tebows were Orton had receivers that could actually catch the ball in the game. Both went 8 for 13, Orton had 2 passing touchdowns and looked sharp. I’m not quite sure how throwing motion affects accuracy it seems to have worked for him up to this point, as well as other great NFL quarterbacks. Tebow scrambled to the right throwing a strike across his body to his receiver 25 yards down field hitting him square in the chest. Quinn was the only QB last night telegraphing passes, pick-six, his first ‘completed’ pass of the night as well. All in all Tebow looked good in my opinion, Orton is still the starting QB as it should be but in my book Tebow’s #2 and Quinns running the practice squad. Not sure if any of you have noticed either but McDaniels seems to be stripping the team of deep threats and going to short options and trying ot build up the running game. If that is the case we’re in serious trouble with both starting tailbacks on on injured reserve after the first day of practice!
“Liberals always attack when they hear the real truth which threatens their horrible lives”
To stoop, leave it to neocons to bring politics into EVREYTHING. Jesus, don’t you folks ever give it a rest? And… What truth? (Rhetorical, please keep your prophecies to yourself)
I thought Tebow was very up and down, nothing to get excited about, but nothing to cry over either, good and bad, as expected under pressure.
LOVE ME SOME GENO ATKINS BABY! That’s one hell of a D line Mike’s assembled. As to the “Orton carving the 1st team D up” Let’s compare records at the half way point and end of the season, means nothing at this point.
# Florida727 says: August 16, 2010 8:11 AM
Florio, didn’t your mom ever teach you that if you can’t say something nice about someone, don’t say anything at all. I know you think think your job is to incite, but you’d be better off having valid observances than moronic opinions.
Hate Tebow all you want. He’s guaranteed, what, $8 million? How much are you guaranteed for writing your stupid articles?
What I really find hilarious are all those who hate him not because of his talent, or perceived lack of it, but they hate him for what he stands for. Best part is, he doesn’t care. The Bible says Christians will “be persecuted” for their stance on Jesus’ behalf. Some of you really need to try reading God’s Word before it’s too late. Eternity is a long time to burn in hell simply because you’re too ignorant or self-righteous to change. God bless.
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Absolutely the best post comment I have ever read!!!!! Florida 727
If he could be an influence on one person…..just one person and that person come to know Jesus and save his soul….it doesn’t matter whether Tebow ever throws a TD…..his life will have been a success. I bet Tim Tebow is happier than 90% of the players in the league….he knows who is on his side!!
people keep making the argument he was playing against 3rd stringers, yes but do you forget he is a rookie as well. He did what he had to do against the team that was on the field. No one can say he played poorly. If you want to say wait till he plays against 1st stringers then we will see.
He’s playing against the 3rd string because……..
he’s currently 3rd string himself.
It’s not a difficult concept, people…….
@DynastyDays
Your comment is a perfect illustration of why Tebow is so famous.
Name one thing he brings to the field, that no other college QB had?
He is a winner? Not the winningest.
He is a leader? Not the only one.
He is passionate? There are plenty who are.
He is tough? Yeah. He plays football.
He is accurate? Not the most.
He is an outspoken christian? The most.
That is what he brings, outspoken christianity. Colt McCoy, Bradford, Pike, Clausen all brought one, more or all of the above attributes to the table but none were outspokenly christian.
The only reason Tebow got the benefit of the doubt from just about everybody in the media is because of his charismatic christianity.
There is no reason to believe that he will be any better than any other system QB.
Can he be a starter? Of course he can. Alex Smith got off to a rough start and was mishandled but he has shown that he has talent and could still prove to be a serviceable starter.
Can he be a great starter? Of course. Anything is possible. If Favre has taught us anything it is that the right team around you can dramatically change your performance (and don’t believe anything anyone says). He could very well be the next Favre.
Should we expect him to be anything but an above average backup? No. Neither Tim Tebow’s nor anyone else’s will power will simply make him better. We all know he isa hard worker and wants to be good but that has NEVER been enough to be a great NFL QB. Simply believing something doesn’t make it so. No football fan anywhere should believe that Tebow WILL be anything other than an above average backup.
All that said there is no reason to want him to fail anymore than you would any other opposing team’s QB. And there is no reason to root for him if you are a Bronco fan or just a football fan.
Although rooting for a player because he is an outspoke christian is stupid. It’s sports. Get over it. Tebow took a big salary just like everyone else. For those that actually learned about Jesus, you would know that is the least christian thing one can do. I don’t claim to be able to read Jesus’ mind, but based on what the bible has taught me, making a lot of money is not christian and something a follower of Jesus would avoid. If I were him, I would donate all my money to charity and live of humble means. If you think I am wrong than you are simply picking and choosing what to obey in the bible.
Not a fan but not a hater. Do I think he is coming in overrated? Yes just a bit……..
But that being said, this is a new job for him with a new team and it will take time for him to settle in and get the kinks worked out.
One thing for sure, he’s got to get used to getting hit. He showed during the SEC championship game that he’s not used to taking many hits or feeling the turf that often.
Just remember Tim: Theres no crying in football!!!