Brett Favre addresses teammates behind closed doors

Amid reports that Vikings quarterback Brett Favre thinks coach Brad Childress has no clue, Favre held a closed-door meeting with teammates to tell them where he stands.

Ed Werder of ESPN reports that Favre told his fellow players that he wishes they would keep such matters within the team, rather than talking to the media.

“If something is being said in here — by whoever, it’s got to stop,” Favre said. “It’s hard enough to win as it is. Success does crazy things. So we had a good meeting.”

According to Werder, that was one of two messages Favre delivered in separate speeches to his teammates. Favre took a separate opportunity to assure his teammates that he’s committed to them, his lengthy absence from training camp notwithstanding.

“I did feel — more so than last year, believe it or not — I needed them to know I’m all in,” Favre said. “Not that they didn’t know. I think they did just from me being there. And that was kind of the mantra from all of those guys: ‘We knew if we got you here, we were going to get you and you’d be all in. It was getting your [butt] here that is the problem.'”

Nothing Favre says, either publicly or privately, is going to change either the perception that he doesn’t think highly of Childress, or the perception that he thinks the usual rules of training camp attendance don’t apply to him. But you can’t blame Favre for trying.

83 responses to “Brett Favre addresses teammates behind closed doors

  1. Looks like a major SCHISM brewing in the Land of 10,000 Tator Tot Cassarole Recipies.
    The starting QB doesn’t think much of the head coach and it’s publicly known. Yeah, that team is screwed.

  2. Why didn’t ole #4 take the opportunity to tell the team he’s behind Chilly? “I’m all in.” What, gee, Brett, for $16.5 million guaranteed, you better be freakin’ in!

  3. King Favre kicked all their asses and let them know once and for all that he,,,,,,and only he,,,,,,,,runs the Vikings.

  4. Uhh Favre….that was YOU saying that Chilly has no clue. That was YOU texting the team that you were “staying retired” (both years). It all comes from YOU. Maybe it’s time YOU simply STFU.

  5. Whoever the teammate is that’s leaking the truth, good for you! He wants you all to bow down to him and it’s good to see there’s at least one Viking who won’t.

  6. Ed Werder of ESPN reports that Favre told his fellow players that he wishes they would keep such matters within the team, rather than talking to the media.
    Favre then addressed the media and told them what was said in the closed door meetings.

  7. Favre holds a closed door meeting to tell guys to stop talking to the media about what’s being said behind closed doors, then he immediately tells Ed Werder about it. What a hypocrite.

  8. favre IS a better play caller than chili, he was a better play caller than mcfatboy too. and we already know how outraged everybody outside minnesota is that favre doesn’t check in till after camp breaks from mankato – what would be a story would be if anybody on the vikes or in minnesota cared even slightly. same schedule as last year, followed by 12-4, #2 passer rating in the nfl, and 3rd place in mvp voting.
    but yeah, by all means, let’s change his schedule this year just cause web sites trying to generate hits write about it and all the teams that finished below the vikes are looking for another reason to hate.

  9. So, Favre has a “closed door locker room meeting” to tell the team that “What’s said in the locker room, stays in the locker room”.
    Then Favre tells Ed Werder what was said in the “closed door locker room meeting”.
    “Do as I say, not as I do.”
    Sure thing Brett.

  10. Wait, so Favre has a meeting to tell his teammates to keep everything in house and to keep their mouths shut and then goes and tells ESPN about it?

    WTF?
    That said, his holding a meeting to tell his teammates to keep quiet give a lot of credibility to the recent stories this past week out of Minnesota…

  11. Call you up in the middle of the night,
    like a fire flower miles away,
    So tired that I couldn’t even sleep,
    so many secrets I couldn’t keep,
    promised myself I wouldn’t weep,
    one more promise I couldn’t keep
    It seems no one can help me now,
    I’m in too deep theres no way out,
    this time I have really let myself pull stray
    Runaway train never goin’ back,
    wrong way on a one way track
    seems like I should be getting somewhere,
    somehow I’m neither here nor there
    Want a ticket for a runaway train?,
    like a madman laughin’ at the rain,
    a little out of touch little in the brain,
    its just easier to deal with the pain
    Runaway train never comin’ back,
    runaway train tearin’ up the track,
    runaway train burnin’ in my veins,
    run away but it always seems the same

  12. Enough of the palaver. Now sit back and enjoy quarterbacking immortality. It starts tonight. It ends in the Big D. Destination Dallas – Unfinished Business. Skol!

  13. blah blah blah, all last season there was the whole Favre/Childress story about play calling. Nothing new here…

  14. This diva is such a piece of work. What’s amazing is that he gets legit team leaders like Jared Allen to buy into his selfish nonsense. Folks in Green Bay have to be loving this. Bretty will go “splat” before this season is over with.

  15. He’s probably autographing complimentary copies of “The Favre Rules.” LOL
    He’s an idiot. KNOCK HIM ON HIS ASS AND THEN KNOCK HIM ON HIS ASS AGAIN UNTIL HE HAS TURF ASS.

  16. You freaking idiots. Childress asked Favre to speak to the team to let them know he’s all in, because idiots who write fiction as media put doubts in players heads.

  17. # slegeir says: August 22, 2010 3:25 PM
    What a bunch of bull! He is so sickening makes me want to puke! Enough of him Please!!
    Yet here you are again..signing on to profootballtalk.com again…seeing a brett favre article again…clicking on it again…replaying on it again… Yet I doubt any of you favre haters will admit this is the extent of your life. Wake up, find favre news talk sh*t about it, congratulations, your life is now complete.

  18. it’s a given that favre makes the vikes one of maybe 3 or 4 legit super bowl contenders but if i had a choice of him doing it without all the drama every year or with the drama, i’d pick with the drama. just to get to keep on watching all the haters heads explode every time they hear his name.

  19. Big deal, the leagues better with FAVRE in it..
    Still haven’t heard ne1 argue that T Jack is the better option for the Vikes’ and better for the league..
    Get real, stop letting the media – and Ed Werder of all people -dictate your thought process..

  20. Wow, what a hypocrite. Looks like Brett is just mad he got caught with his “pants on the ground”

  21. Oh Please, you have got to be kidding me. Favre used his teammates to plant text messages saying he is retiring to get himself more money and now he tells them to not say anything to the media??? And he is really all in, except of course, mini camps and training camp, that he is too good for. The drama queen has only himself to blame for this one. And people wonder why Ted Thompson got rid of this moron. I have not one shred of respect left for Favre. At this point he is a legend in his own mind. Somebody needs to do an intervention on this attention junkie, he is obvsiously out of control. But don’t worry, as all junkies do, he will implode and take the Viqueens down with him. This is absolutely priceless!!!!! Dumb and Dumber Part 2.

  22. You can’t make up for a lack of leadership over the last several months…especially when it is nothing but a silly attempt at CYA. Favre was/is a great player and I admired his “play for the sake of the game” mentality, but this year he has shown what an egotistical manipulative hypocrite he can be. He is damaging his legacy on a daily basis. It’s a shame he has sunk so low.

  23. This just in….
    Nobody thinks that highly of Chilly and his play calling ability.
    I don’t trust him, so why should Quarterbacking immortality? This is not Favre’s fault. Nobody talks about Manning being much smarter than his HC and OC because his teamates didn’t go tell the media how he actually feels about the Colts staff. Simply put, one jagoff on the roster is creating turmoil becuse he wont keep his mouth shut.

  24. What is truly sad, is how every one of you complain about how “self-centered” he (Favre) is, yet, he pulls the team together… and explains to them that he’s there for them. There is no problem with he and Childress. And that he’s committed to helping this team when a Super Bowl… after he was beat to hell in the final game of the season, which many thought would end his career, as big of a Viking fan as I am, he DOESN’T owe us anything. He didn’t lose that game for us, he had a career best year, and merely put the game into overtime… But I guess there isn’t much for you people to do when, your team for example allows 51 points to be put on the board against them in the postseason and then makes NO positive changes to the defense during the offseason, or if your team has a QB who led the league in interceptions after his “Pro-Bowl” stints in Denver…

  25. Runaway Train – Nice, quoting a song from one of Minneapolis’ finest bands. Nothing like a hometown soundtrack.

  26. Love_Boat_Scandal really says:
    DAMN! Looks like that so-called major SCHISM brewing in the Land of 10,000 Tator Tot Cassarole Recipes isn’t really true…
    DAMN! The bullsh*t story ESPN started to compete with PFT turned out to be just more bull… Why, if the QB doesn’t think much of the head coach would he let it be publically know? By the way publicly known means what? TMZ?
    DAMN! I just know that Viking team is pissed now, and they’re gonna take it out on the hapless Packers.
    DAMN! It’s not the Packers fault! Now we Packer fans have to watch Brett Lorenzo Favre come back to Lambeau, drop a steamer on the 50 yard line, and rub our faces in it again…
    DAMN! This playing for a Wildcard game is getting old!
    DAMN! I’m moving to Minnesota and I’ll never complain about Tator Tot Cassarole Recipes ever again…

  27. God it’s great being a Viking fan! We are the rock star team of the NFL…choke on our stories 24/7 hater douchers….

  28. “Folks in Green Bay have to be loving this.”
    you mean the packers going 17-15 with 0 playoff wins since favre left? while watching favre sweep the packers and the vikes win the division the last 2 years and advance to the conference championship game under favre?
    if folks in green bay are loving this, folks in green bay are masochists.

  29. Ted Thompson is an albino, zombie, vampire hypnotist that somehow convinced the Green Bay Fatfull to believe that MEDIOCRITY (17-15) with NO PLAYOFF WINS is somehow a return to “greatness”…..
    Aaron Rodgers is the NFL’s new “Jeff George”…
    These two are so OVER-RATED, and OVER-HYPED that it’s SAD….
    The only conclusion one can make is that Packer fans are morons…..MORONS, I say….and no can convince me otherwise…

  30. “This is not going to end well for Favre or the Vikings.”
    do you guys literally just save your comments and paste them year after year while being wrong year after year? yeah, favre is gonna miss a game just like he’s been known for doing the last 19 years. he’s gonna have a bad year, cause he didn’t finish 2nd in qb rating and 3rd in mvp voting last year.
    the vikings are gonna have another bad year, cause they’re not coming off back to back division championships and they didn’t make it to the conference championship last season.
    and the packers are gonna have another spectacular year, cause they haven’t gone 17-15 with 0 playoff wins and 0 division titles since favre left.
    you keep saying the same thing, year after year, and being wrong, year after year. i think you’re jinxing yourselves every time you say it.

  31. He actually talks to his teammates? I’m shocked – SHOCKED! They’re not allowed to look at him though, right?

  32. # Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: August 22, 2010 4:34 PM
    it’s a given that favre makes the vikes one of maybe 3 or 4 legit super bowl contenders but if i had a choice of him doing it without all the drama every year or with the drama, i’d pick with the drama. just to get to keep on watching all the haters heads explode every time they hear his name.
    —————————————————–
    Get a clue. No one is angry and no ones “head is exploding”. It’s fun to point what a diva and how the vikes lap at the troth of his drama and try to explain it away.

  33. “And people wonder why Ted Thompson got rid of this moron.”
    he did it because after watching favre lead the packers to the nfc championship game in 07, ted decided that rather than trying to take the next step, it would be more fun to regress to 17-15 and 0 playoff wins for the next 2 years.

  34. Jenn Sterger says Brett has a really small cock. That’s the only reason she wouldn’t release his text messages, she didn’t want to embarass him any further.
    In other news, Bretts bastard grandson is busy sucklin his mothers tit while the little whore sucks some randon guy off in her daddys living room.

  35. “No one is angry”
    a 7 year old could read pcker fan comments on favre-viking threads and see the anger. to claim that pcker fans are not angry is possibly the most ridiculous thing i have ever read on any one of these threads. pcker fans emotions regarding favre run the gamut from extreme annoyance to homicidal rage.

  36. So 5 out of the top 10 most commented stories are about who??? Favre and the Vikings..emphasis on “KINGS”, so for you all idiots out there who whine and cry about how he is so selfish and bad for the league and on and on…Answer me this, how many other players spend time like he does practicing with high school kids? Call me crazy but I would say that couldnt be further from selfish! How many other QB’s would be able to get their azz off the turf over and over after getting hit by cheap shots and low blows all game long? Granted our offensive line got worked like a red-headed step child. Favre is the toguhest QB ever and everyone who is hating on him is jealous how their team does not have him.
    Regarding Chilly even most Vikings fan dont like him, so by telling us what a tool he is, and how his play calling is horrible etc you arent actually telling us anything we do not already know.

  37. “the little whore sucks some randon guy off in her daddys living room.”
    *************************
    you’re talking about erin rodgers and his life partner/roommate trainer right? and now erin’s got his daddy involved?

  38. Wow. A legendary QB doesn’t want to be yanked from a game and he and the coach squabble over it on the sidelines. Gee, that’s never happened in NFL history. There may be a Dick in the locker-room that doesn’t like the coach and is talking anonymous bullshit to the media. Again, that’s never happened before. Grow up. Players whine, bitch, and complain about not enough playing time, face time, touches, reps, you name it. Nothing new or exceptional. It happens on every team. But just because it involves Favre or Childress, it’s somehow Big News. Sorry, it’s not.

  39. Interestingly enough, when Favre was waffling prior to going to the Jets, football fans, including Viking fans as well as Packer fans, were complaining about the act. I’m not a Packer fan, but at least they had the intelligence to figure out that Favre had become a self-centered douchebag even while Favre was still a Packer. The same Viking fans that were bitching about him before now stick up for him- they don’t care if the guy is an arrogant prick
    The Viking fans demean themselves. Minnesota fans are among the worst fair-weather fans in sports (although they are better than California fans). When Favre is gone, the fans won’t be showing up to games, while Green Bay, Chicago, Pittsburgh, New York, and others will always back their teams.
    Favre’s act wouldn’t fly in most NFL cities- it does in Minny, because they have lost their dignity. I could respect Minnesota fans even if they said “Hey, we know this guy is a douche, but we just want to win” rather than defending his actions and then lining up to blow him.

  40. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says:
    August 22, 2010 5:40 PM
    “And people wonder why Ted Thompson got rid of this moron.”
    he did it because after watching favre lead the packers to the nfc championship game in 07, ted decided that rather than trying to take the next step, it would be more fun to regress to 17-15 and 0 playoff wins for the next 2 years.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Thompson got ‘rid’ of him because he couldn’t put the franchise of the Packers in limbo again for another year.
    Thompson got ‘rid’ of him because he couldn’t play well in the cold like he used to. Kinda sucks to have home field advantage in the NFC playoffs and have a QB that just couldn’t hack it.
    Thompson got ‘rid’ of him because the Packers had a QB on the bench that–and be honest– would have won for the Vikings last year AND would have run for a few yards to set up a Super Bowl berth field goal. The Packers as a team was just not as good as the Vikings. They still might not be.
    One man a team does not make.

  41. These IDIOTS with the “twitter” “facebook” etc. have to let up already. As Favre only talks to a select few, the rest of the media, when the report something about him, are simply getting it second and third hand.

  42. the packers obviously have alot of problems going into this season, coming off the cards game where they gave up over 50 pts. pcker fans ask me all the time, “gravy, what hope do we have a pass d that bad and a g.m. that never spends to upgrade the roster or fill holes or add depth, especially when we’ve been so decimated by injuries in the 2ndary and the linebackers and losing jolly and everything?” and i have to answer them honestly that looking at the schedule, the packers look like an 8 win team this year.
    they also ask me, “gravy, the vikings are stacked and look like a powerhouse this year; what is the most encouraging thing you see about them?” and i answer that there are so many things but you have to start with 1. the 2nd highest scoring offense in the league last season; 2. the 2nd or 3rd best rush defense; 3. a pass defense that held both romo and brees under 200 yards passing in the playoffs; and 4. bringing all 22 starters from the cconference championship game team, plus signing and drafting even more talent in the 2ndary.

  43. ICEWALKER says: August 22, 2010 6:06 PM
    The Packers as a team was just not as good as the Vikings. They still might not be. That’s all I really have to say.
    *************************
    icewalker, your commenet was astute, accurate, brief and to the point. well done.

  44. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says in response to my quote “Folks in Green Bay have to be loving this.” with the following response.
    “you mean the packers going 17-15 with 0 playoff wins since favre left? while watching favre sweep the packers and the vikes win the division the last 2 years and advance to the conference championship game under favre?
    if folks in green bay are loving this, folks in green bay are masochists.”
    Yeah I think the folks in Green Bay know it’s been the Vikes defense and Adrian Peterson that’s been the difference. They love the fact that their team is no longer held hostage by a selfish self centered diva that isn’t going to take them to the promised land. Aaron Rodgers is a better player than diva Favre and every GM in the NFL would take Aaron in a minute.
    You put Aaron in that game against the Saints last year and the Vikes are in the Super Bowl.

  45. @Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says:
    August 22, 2010 6:20 PM
    the packers obviously have alot of problems going into this season, coming off the cards game where they gave up over 50 pts. pcker fans ask me all the time, “gravy, what hope do we have a pass d that bad and a g.m. that never spends to upgrade the roster or fill holes or add depth, especially when we’ve been so decimated by injuries in the 2ndary and the linebackers and losing jolly and everything?” and i have to answer them honestly that looking at the schedule, the packers look like an 8 win team this year.
    they also ask me, “gravy, the vikings are stacked and look like a powerhouse this year; what is the most encouraging thing you see about them?” and i answer that there are so many things but you have to start with 1. the 2nd highest scoring offense in the league last season; 2. the 2nd or 3rd best rush defense; 3. a pass defense that held both romo and brees under 200 yards passing in the playoffs; and 4. bringing all 22 starters from the cconference championship game team, plus signing and drafting even more talent in the 2ndary.
    ===================================
    Your parents let all of these Packer fans come visit you in their basement?

  46. MACK DADDY –
    Just because your uncle did those things to you, in the basement, when you were a tot, it doesn’t mean you have to project that hate onto the sane world.

  47. # Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: August 22, 2010 5:47 PM
    “No one is angry”
    a 7 year old could read pcker fan comments on favre-viking threads and see the anger. to claim that pcker fans are not angry is possibly the most ridiculous thing i have ever read on any one of these threads. pcker fans emotions regarding favre run the gamut from extreme annoyance to homicidal rage.
    ————————————————–
    incorrect. Step up from 7 year old intellect and you’ll get it.

  48. I can’t wait to see Brent cry on TV again. Probably after the Saints game. He will be carted off the field, it is as inevitable as winter in Wisconsin. But of course none of it will be his fault and he will drop the Viqueens and their fans just as quickly as he dropped the Packers and the Jets. Sooner or later people will quit paying attention to this washed up drama Queen. But he is only in it for the love of the game. LMAO.

  49. Green n’ Gold says: August 22, 2010 4:27 PM
    This is what was really discussed behind closed doors.


  50. tim stead, so you’re still claiming that packer fans are loving going from 13-3 and the nfcc game to 17-15 and 0 playoff wins since favre left? still sounds masochistic to me.

  51. Tim_Stead says: August 22, 2010 6:26 PM
    You put Aaron in that game against the Saints last year and the Vikes are in the Super Bowl.
    ______________
    How quickly you forget about the fumble-punt. That would have happened at least 5 more times against the Saints pass rush that day.

  52. “You put Aaron in that game against the Saints last year and the Vikes are in the Super Bowl.”
    aaron would’ve just fumblepunted the game away like he did in phoenix.

  53. Brett needs his groin and hamstrings in good shape in order to sodomize the Packers again this year. Having clear sinuses will help him demonstrate to them exactly how a hog is supposed to squeal.

  54. I’m committed enough to skip training camp and two-a-days…what a douche. Any teammate that respects and follows this guy is a dipsh!t.

  55. Vikes are ridiculously overrated. Last year was the product of an insanely easy schedule…once again, mad props to the 2 wins vs Packers. They couldnt win on the road at the end of the season…a bye, and 2 nice cozy indoor games for Bret Pharv and they couldnt do it. Good luck this year. Gonna be a long season…

  56. “I’m committed enough to skip training camp and two-a-days…what a douche. Any teammate that respects and follows this guy is a dipsh!t.”
    if i was a pcker fan i’d hate it too that favre is following the same schedule that led to the 2nd best qb rating in the league, 3rd highest mvp votegetter, 12-4, and 2 humiliations of the pckers.

  57. There have also been articles in the past about how well Favre gets along with the coaching. He and Chilly go back. He’s buddies with Bevel. Childress has been very patient with Favre and given him a lot of time and built a stacked team for him to tool around with.
    Just because one player made this comment it does not “prove” that Favre hates Childress. Christ they are practically groping each other half the damn time.
    It doesn’t really matter anyways. Coaches don’t have to be liked by everyone. Usually players coaches don’t have as much success.

  58. “Looks like a major SCHISM brewing in the Land of 10,000 Tator Tot Cassarole Recipies.”
    hot dish, not casserole.
    FYI if you have a red line under a word when you are typing it means that it’s spelled wrong. Just sayin’…

  59. I wonder if he noticed Tavaris Jackson taking notes and fumbling with his cell phone in the back corner?

  60. Brett is the man. Deal with it.If a team lets you do what ever you want, then why would’nt you?

  61. Gravy:
    and the packers are gonna have another spectacular year, cause they haven’t gone 17-15 with 0 playoff wins and 0 division titles since favre left.
    and the packers are gonna have another spectacular year, cause they haven’t gone 17-15 with 0 playoff wins and 0 division titles since favre left.
    and the packers are gonna have another spectacular year, cause they haven’t gone 17-15 with 0 playoff wins and 0 division titles since favre left.
    _______________________________
    Dude, get some new material!

  62. Gravy
    you’re talking about erin rodgers and his life partner/roommate trainer right? and now erin’s got his daddy involved?
    _____________________
    Gravy, you must spend a great deal of time with Aaron and Ted in the very circumstances you describe so vividly. You seem to know so much. It can only be because you have personal experience! When did you become a trainer?

  63. nar·cis·sism
       /ˈnɑrsəˌsɪzɛm/ Show Spelled[nahr-suh-siz-em] Show IPA
    –noun
    1.
    inordinate fascination with oneself; excessive self-love; vanity.
    Examples: Brett Favre, Barack Obama

  64. PurpleRaid12 says:
    August 22, 2010 5:11 PM
    What is truly sad, is how every one of you complain about how “self-centered” he (Favre) is, yet, he pulls the team together… and explains to them that he’s there for them. There is no problem with he and Childress. And that he’s committed to helping this team when a Super Bowl
    ===============================
    Except the meeting was held at the urging of Childress, not because Brett thought of it.
    And I love the “No playoff wins in two years” nonsense. So that ONE playoff win by the Vikings makes you so much better, right? You go back three years and the Vikings have just as many playoff wins and appearances as the Packers.
    Nice try though. Idiots.

  65. Gravy – as a Bears fan I don’t care and enjoyed helping spoil the Viqueers home play-off hopes last year. Thank AD for his greasy hands for me…and wipe Favres goo off your chin.

  66. As you can see, I am all in! Except for OTA’s and Training Camp, and when Chilly tells me something I do not want to do.

  67. Favre has played badly in cold weather for several years now. and he played like crap vs the NYG too.

  68. Chameleon says:
    August 22, 2010 8:18 PM
    watching 49ers Vs Vikings. Vike first team defence looks pretty beatable
    =============================
    Because the 2nd preseason game means so much……
    Packers defense looked like crap vs. the Browns….ohh wait they were playing vanilla…always an excuse for packer fans.
    Hypocrite.
    Cmon Gramps!
    Why do you even ponder posting?

  69. RC IV whatever that means….I post because you are so stupid you still haven’t figured out who I am…I know you though! Could you be denser?
    I’ll expand on why I post later, until then I’ll leave you with this:
    Let’s take a step out of the Viking fan gutter for a bit.
    And God created the earth striving for balance among the nations of the world
    The Archangel, impressed by God’s work, pointed to a land area and said, “What’s that one?”
    “That’s Wisconsin, the most glorious place on earth. There are beautiful rivers and streams, lakes, forests, and hills. The people from Wisconsin are going to be handsome, modest, intelligent, and humorous, and they are going to travel the world. They will be extremely sociable, hardworking, high achieving, carriers of peace, and producers of good things. Champions shall come from here!”
    Michael gasped in wonder and admiration, but then asked, “But what about balance, God? You said there would be balance.”
    God smiled, “I will create Minnesota, wait till you see the clowns I put there. Fair weather whiny bickering low life souls. They will field a football team to provide entertainment; they will wear purple and play in a domed stadium.”
    Michael inquisitively asked, “Why a domed stadium?”
    God chuckled and said, “You see Michael, even I don’t want to watch them play football.”

  70. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says:
    tim stead, so you’re still claiming that packer fans are loving going from 13-3 and the nfcc game to 17-15 and 0 playoff wins since favre left? still sounds masochistic to me.
    Not as masochistic as the 0-50 record the Vikings have for Lombardi wins vs. seasons in existance. But, hey… I guess y’all need to be proud of something!
    Green Bay Packers – 12 Times World Champions
    Minnesota Vikings – 50 Times League Losers
    End of Story.

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