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Colt McCoy mentioned on the roster bubble

Perhaps it was just a throw-away line, but we doubt it.

Tony Grossi of the Cleveland Plain-Dealer came up with a list of Browns that could need good showings in the final two preseason games to make the roster, and mentioned rookie quarterback Colt McCoy.

The late third round pick has completed 5-of-12 passes for 25 yards with two interceptions and two sacks taken in two appearances.  Perhaps coach Eric Mangini doesn’t have much use for McCoy, but it’s hard to imagine G.M. Mike Holmgren giving up on McCoy so quickly.  The Texas product would seemingly be unlikely to make it through waivers if the Browns tried to put him on the practice squad.

Mangini may love quarterback Brett Ratliff, but the Browns have been pleased by Jake Delhomme and Seneca Wallace in the preseason.  Ratliff has struggled. They don’t really need a third veteran quarterback, so cutting McCoy would make a strong statement. 

Grossi also mentions 2009 second round pick David Veikune as being on the roster bubble.

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  1. JLawless87 says: Aug 24, 2010 11:24 AM

    I am sorry I thought Tom Heckert was the General Manager and Mike Holmgren was the President of Football Operations … but I guess you would know better than someone that does not get paid for writing blogs about football.

  2. jj jones says: Aug 24, 2010 11:27 AM

    Colt seems like a good kid. But he just doesn’t have what it takes physically to be an NFL quarterback.
    The Browns QB in 2011 will be someone currently in college.

  3. hnirobert says: Aug 24, 2010 11:29 AM

    Dude’s just not an NFL QB. Draw all the comparisons to Drew Brees you want, but he’s the exception and not the rule. UFL, here comes Colt.

  4. robert ethen says: Aug 24, 2010 11:29 AM

    Problem is that McCoy’s career has been rushed. He could have used four more years in high school to mature physically.

  5. civilwarfish says: Aug 24, 2010 11:35 AM

    McCoy may end up on the Practice Squad in order to keep Ratliff, who cannot be sent there. Mangini likes Ratliff and he has shown an occasional glimmer of ability in his few moments on field. That might make him a suitable third…or tradebait.
    With the Cardinals looking like they need a QB that opportunity could exist. They woudl be better off looking elsewhere. They need a starter…and that Ratliff is not.
    McCoy needs to learn the NFL way. It is gonna take work…and time. With luck Delhomme and Wallace hold up for a couple years while Colt learns the game in a way that will make him what Holmgren hopes for.

  6. Sandra Lee's Cans says: Aug 24, 2010 11:37 AM

    It would be a bad PR move to cut McCoy. He’s no worse than Ratliff. He was drafted to sit and watch, which is what he’ll do.

  7. Lufer says: Aug 24, 2010 11:50 AM

    This is yet more evidence that the talent level in Cleveland appears to be light years ahead of where it was a year ago. Moreover, it shows that the organization may have been right all along when it brought in Delhomme and Wallace to stabilize the QB spot. McCoy would never be on the proverbial bubble unless the Browns were pretty confident of what they have in their first and second string signal callers.
    For the first time in over 15 years, those Browns seem ready to make some noise. The buzz from the normally pessimistic Cleveland press corps has been unusually bullish this summer. This team has officially caught my attention.

  8. Deb says: Aug 24, 2010 11:50 AM

    Was suprised a G.M. with Mike Holmgren’s QB savvy took McCoy in the first place.
    Hate the Gators, but Tebow always stayed in the game, took his hits, and sometimes came out bloodied–but he never QUIT. McCoy folds just looking at a scary defense. Big shock–he left his first pro game. Big shock–turned out nothing was wrong with him. Story of his career. You can teach mechanics, but you can’t teach backbone.
    Pity that he’s going so quickly, though … I was so looking forward to seeing him faint on the field when he faced the Ravens, Bengals, and Steelers defenses.

  9. wryly1 says: Aug 24, 2010 11:55 AM

    Browns went on record right up front – right after the Draft, saying McCoy wouldn’t pl;ay this year. Unless they’ve already determined he’s really, truly incapable of developing at the NFL level, I’d be very surprised if he’s cut.

  10. sguy2130 says: Aug 24, 2010 12:16 PM

    He won’t get cut for Brett Ratliff. McCoy is terrible thus far, but a 3rd round pick was spent on him and Ratliff has shown nothing in 2 years while being a meaningless throw in on a trade. He will have at least a year to develop.
    Grossi is just trying to get people to read his articles and will write anything to get hits. Guess Florio is no different haha.

  11. Jack Acid says: Aug 24, 2010 12:17 PM

    There is no way McCoy goes to the practice squad. He’ll be the 3rd QB and will spend the year learning and watching.

  12. dsheik says: Aug 24, 2010 12:22 PM

    If they just have some patience with Colt he could make a solid backup in 4-5 years.

  13. Kaz says: Aug 24, 2010 12:23 PM

    Only in Cleveland does the quarterback of the future get put on the block after 2 preseason games. SMH…

  14. Gatorfan1 says: Aug 24, 2010 12:23 PM

    Deb,
    Interesting post. I remember you made basically the same statement at the end of the NC game last year.
    I thought you were being too harsh on him, but I don’t think so anymore. I think you nailed it, the kid lacks heart to play against tough competition.

  15. shoe says: Aug 24, 2010 12:26 PM

    Major Applewhite clone

  16. hazi59 says: Aug 24, 2010 12:26 PM

    Brett Ratliff will either get cut, or they will keep 4 QB’s. No way they cut McCoy, otherwise they admit error in taking him with a 3rd round pick instead of fortifying another position.

  17. robert ethen says: Aug 24, 2010 12:28 PM

    At least McCoy doesn’t take up very much space in the bubble.

  18. ncsteeler says: Aug 24, 2010 12:29 PM

    McCoy isn’t going anywhere this season. He has more upside than Ratliff and a year or two of learning and weightroom work can make a world of difference. Tom Brady wasn’t much a rookie but after a year learning and putting on 20 lbs of muscle he’s a SB winning QB. It doesn’t happen often but that’s why good orginizations don’t give up on players.

  19. Applewhite says: Aug 24, 2010 12:29 PM

    “Hate the Gators, but Tebow always stayed in the game, took his hits, and sometimes came out bloodied–but he never QUIT. McCoy folds just looking at a scary defense. Big shock–he left his first pro game. Big shock–turned out nothing was wrong with him. Story of his career. You can teach mechanics, but you can’t teach backbone.”
    How does someone set the all time win record in College Football history with 45 wins and be a “Quitter”?
    How does someone with 12 4th quarter come from behind victories and have no backbone?
    Deb you are a complete moron.

  20. db3300 says: Aug 24, 2010 12:31 PM

    “McCoy may end up on the Practice Squad in order to keep Ratliff…”
    You’re only fooling yourself. No way does McCoy get through waivers to make the practice squad. To judge a rookie QB this early is ignorant but the Browns have never accomplished anything and Holmgren is somehow getting credit for being a genius even though he won nothing in Seattle.

  21. Morpheus says: Aug 24, 2010 12:31 PM

    Is there an NFL team in Cleveland? Hell are there any professional sport teams in Cleveland?
    The sports scene in that cesspool of a city is so sorry that if the national spelling bee champion came from there he or she would be a city hero for the rest of theis lives. Then again that won’t happen. With their luck they will be asked to spell “champion” and we all know Cleveland doesn’t have any of those.

  22. robert ethen says: Aug 24, 2010 12:32 PM

    Some say the Mack Brown system stunted Colt’s growth, but most think it is a genetic thing.

  23. Texas Fight says: Aug 24, 2010 12:43 PM

    Deb posted this gem: “McCoy folds just looking at a scary defense. Big shock–he left his first pro game. Big shock–turned out nothing was wrong with him. Story of his career. You can teach mechanics, but you can’t teach backbone.”
    Is there an award for Dumbest Thing Posted Online Today?
    Colt started 53 games for Texas and was knocked out of only two of them, and one of those was a helmet-to-helmet hit.
    If you think Colt is soft or lacking in “backbone” then you must be an aggy or sooner that is blinded by hate, or you simply didn’t pay attention to college football the past four years.
    The kid took a couple thousand hits and jumped right back up. Twice he took a hit and didn’t.
    Scared kids don’t become the winningest quarterback in NCAA history.
    McCoy may or may not make it in the NFL. I have my doubts. But to question his heart is just ridiculously ignorant.

  24. CO55 says: Aug 24, 2010 12:45 PM

    Colt McCoy isn’t going anywhere. If they cut him it’s admitting a mistake way earlier than any GM is willing to do with a draft pick that high.
    He won’t go to the practice squad because if he did he’d be gone by the end of the first week. That would be almost as stupid as releasing him.
    I think Tony Grossi is doing someone’s motivational dirty work with this one. Colt will be 3rd string and Ratliff should join DA in Arizona if last night is any indication of the QB quality out there.

  25. Football says: Aug 24, 2010 12:46 PM

    The reality is that McCoy was a good player on really, really good college team. McCoy played in maybe 1 or 2 games per season in which he didnt have an almost insurmountable advantage in terms of the talent of his supporting cast. And he never played in a game in which he was at a disadvantage. That will never happen in the NFL. Unfortunately, the Browns don’t have Baylor on the schedule.

  26. kosarsmyidol says: Aug 24, 2010 12:49 PM

    Wouldn’t he have to be cut to be put on the practice squad? If that occurred, wouldn’t he be allowed to sign with any team?

  27. daffy87 says: Aug 24, 2010 12:51 PM

    As far as I know a player has to clear the waiver wire before you can sign them to your practice squad. If they cut McCoy there is no way he clears waivers, some other team would take him. So practice squad isn’t really an option. The only statement cutting Colt would make is that we’ll be drafting a QB in the 1st round in the 2011 draft. He’s had two pre-season games, I think it’s very premature to be saying he can’t cut it in the NFL. He’s been working with guys who might not even make the team when he’s played. But Holmgren knows QB’s…if he thinks Colt can develop into a good one he’ll keep him…if not he’ll drop him. Absolute faith in Holmgren when it comes to QBs. He signed Delhomme and we’ve had to listen to nothing but negative comments from every media source about it since. And now Jake looks sharp in his snaps so far. Holmgren knows QBs.

  28. jibfest says: Aug 24, 2010 12:59 PM

    hnirobert says:
    August 24, 2010 11:29 AM
    Dude’s just not an NFL QB. Draw all the comparisons to Drew Brees you want, but he’s the exception and not the rule. UFL, here comes Colt.
    @hnirobert: Nice try moron but he isn’t going anywhere. Actually a lame attempt to be funny, I guess. McCoy is going to ride the pine all year but won’t be in the UFL. I mean Colt is no Michael Vick or Vince Young……

  29. RayRay says: Aug 24, 2010 1:00 PM

    Colt on the bubble. Give me a break. It takes at least a year of playing just to adjust to the intensity and speed of the NFL. Not to mention learning a new offense with a complex playbook. These blogs need to be more responsible especially coming from a sports writer. Looks like an attention-seeking article to me.

  30. dlmcc0909 says: Aug 24, 2010 1:02 PM

    Seems a little soon to cut a rookie QB. He may be lousy so far, but you already know what you have in Seneca Wallace and it isnt very good. With McCoy, at least you take the chance that he somehow develops. Its not like the Browns are going anywhere sometime soon anyway. Theres little to lose by keeping him and taking a chance on him learning from Delhomme. I didnt realize how scary that last sentence was until I typed it

  31. halitzor says: Aug 24, 2010 1:15 PM

    # jj jones says: August 24, 2010 11:27 AM
    Colt seems like a good kid. But he just doesn’t have what it takes physically to be an NFL quarterback.
    The Browns QB in 2011 will be someone currently in college.
    completely idiotic statement.
    Delhomme and Wallace are signed for 2 years… You think someone as smart as Holmgren would start a rookie QB with those two guys on the roster?
    Moron…

  32. civilwarfish says: Aug 24, 2010 1:16 PM

    Morpheus says:
    Is there an NFL team in Cleveland? Hell are there any professional sport teams in Cleveland?
    The sports scene in that cesspool of a city is so sorry that if the national spelling bee champion came from there he or she would be a city hero for the rest of theis lives. Then again that won’t happen. With their luck they will be asked to spell “champion” and we all know Cleveland doesn’t have any of those.
    ————————————————
    We did indeed produce the National Spelling Bee Champion this year…and she is indeed a hero to this city.
    But I suspect you knew that already.
    Cleveland is a hidden gem. It can stay that way and I will be happy. World class museums and theatre…our symphony is considered better than most cities twice our size. We have a public water system that produces water that is used as a benchmark for the bottled water industry…they expect their members to produce water at least as good as Cleveland City provides on a daily basis from the tap.
    Cleveland sports is on the other hand just miserable…has been most of my life. The Browns won 8 league championships…but none since well before the Superbowl era. The Indians havent won a world series since 1948. The cavs simply havent won a championship.
    The Browns have begin to show us a potential to break from this cycle. I for one support them in this effort. I see specific things that are different this time that tend to show me that Holmgren/Heckert/Mangini are on the right track and that soon the Browns will not be an automatic joke.

  33. donth says: Aug 24, 2010 1:16 PM

    Please, God, let them release Colt. That way he can be picked up by a team that almost has to be better than the Browns in a better city than Cleveland.

  34. SterilizeTHenry says: Aug 24, 2010 1:24 PM

    The Browns need to cut this guy. Honestly, I don’t know why they drafted him in the first place. If they don’t cut him, they may pass on one of next years top QB prospects because they incorrectly think McCoy is their “QB of the future”.
    If they cut their losses now they will have a chance to get a bigtime QB in the 1st round next year. Jake Locker, Andrew Luck, Christian Ponder, Ryan Mallet, and even Pat Devlin are better QB prospects than the noodle-armed McCoy. Locker and Luck will probably go in the top five to real crappy teams like the Bills, Chiefs, or Jags. But the Browns should have a good shot at getting one of the other guys.

  35. se18a29 says: Aug 24, 2010 1:27 PM

    Deb, get back in the kitchen where you belong and make me a sammich!!!

  36. Deb says: Aug 24, 2010 1:46 PM

    @Gatorfan1 …
    Was just thinking about you! Haven’t seen you in a while. Should be a good season. I may get to go up for our game. Yeah, I’ve been slammed for picking on “poor” Colt and not understanding his “injury.” Why just look at how …
    @Applewhite and Texas Fight …
    are bristling. But after experiencing permanent nerve damage w/my surgeries, I understand how those injuries work better than most. Funny how that hit on Colt didn’t even dislodge the ball. Leaving a big game under tough circumstances with a questionable injury … not an isolated incident for him. Why do you think a guy with those records fell to the third round?
    @ncsteeler … baby, comparing that squirt to Brady is like comparing David Woodley to Roethlisberger.
    Yes, Applewhite and Texas Fight, he’s taken hits and kept playing. But the Nebraska game shook him up and watching how Bama’s D beat up Tebow in the SEC Championship scared him to death. One hit in the NC and he panicked. His face could have been a poster for “I heard the footsteps.”
    I said then he’d crumble facing an NFL defense. And what do you know– he had to leave his first pro game with an injury that turned out to be nothing. Now he’s on the bubble before making it to his first regular-season game. Moron? Hey, I’m confident history will prove me right. If not, I’ll happily eat crow. Will you?

  37. Mikayla says: Aug 24, 2010 1:46 PM

    Welcome to the new era of sports reporting. Some clown makes an off-the-wall comment, it gets tweeted, then it pops up as a “report”, then it takes on a life of its own, and people get their knickers in a twist.
    Even Cleveland wouldn’t drop a top QB draft pick before the season begins. The whole concept is nonsensical.

  38. BrownsTown says: Aug 24, 2010 1:53 PM

    You guys need to know the source. Grossi was being snide, which is SOP for him.
    Re: Deb, she’s had a thing for McCoy since the NC game. She diagnosed his injury from her living room and all, so she’s definitely in tune with his pain tolerance. Same thing with Tebow. When he got TKO’d by some Kentucky scrub and went to the hospital, she knew that he was tough and didn’t want to be there. Hence why Tebow never quit, even when he didn’t finish the games on the field or even within the confines of the stadium.

  39. Pr1cetag says: Aug 24, 2010 1:59 PM

    deb — I think your comments were said to just stir the pot. There’s absolutely no way someone that actually watched college football could say that with any intelligence at all.
    I’m a Dolphins fan not a Browns fan, but I will tell you, I watched the National Championship game and Colt did not quit. Colt had Mack Brown remove him from the game and not let him return to protect his future. Same thing in the Browns game, it’s called protecting an investment. In college you don’t have a choice to get back on the field. Tebow got destroyed against UK and did not come back. That happens and you need to check your facts before yapping such ridiculous statements.

  40. realitypolice says: Aug 24, 2010 2:08 PM

    Deb says:
    August 24, 2010 11:50 AM
    Was suprised a G.M. with Mike Holmgren’s QB savvy took McCoy in the first place.
    Hate the Gators, but Tebow always stayed in the game.
    =================
    What’s the comparison? Tebow was drafted in the first round and McCoy the third, so it’s not like they were both sitting there and Holmgren took McCoy over Tebow. Perhaps if Tebow he fallen that far, he would be a Brown.
    In a way, this proves his QB savvy. He was smart enough to wait until the bottom half of a middle round to draft his project QB, where as McDaniels traded multiple draft picks to draft his in the first.

  41. mwcarolina says: Aug 24, 2010 2:15 PM

    i hope teh Browns release Colt McCoy, i would want him on the Redskins any day, he’s a good project to work on. That’s why i think he’s worth keeping.

  42. Buck It says: Aug 24, 2010 2:21 PM

    Mangina wouldn’t know a quarterback if he saw one.

  43. SC21 says: Aug 24, 2010 2:52 PM

    Hate the Gators, but Tebow always stayed in the game, took his hits, and sometimes came out bloodied–but he never QUIT. McCoy folds just looking at a scary defense. Big shock–he left his first pro game. Big shock–turned out nothing was wrong with him. Story of his career. You can teach mechanics, but you can’t teach backbone.”
    Ya, Tebow always stayed in… well except for that Kentucky game where he had to be carted off and taken to the hospital. And he never faltered against a scary defense… except those games against Georgia or Michigan, or against Bama when he laid a big egg and then cried like a little girl.
    I really loved the way Colt “quit” against Nebraska, when Suh sacked him about a dozen times. Oh wait, he stayed in and led his team to victory.
    As for mechanics, Tebows suck, and its gonna keep him from ever being a top NFL QB.

  44. Yash says: Aug 24, 2010 3:01 PM

    @ Texas Fight: thank god you said it. To question Colt McCOys heart is absurd. An undersized 4 year starter who took more hits than can be counted, and got by mostly WITH HIS HEART. He has the will and determination, it’s just a matter of his size and mechanics surviving the next level.

  45. Nacho Libre says: Aug 24, 2010 3:02 PM

    Applewhite says:
    August 24, 2010 12:29 PM “How does someone set the all time win record in College Football history with 45 wins and be a “Quitter”?
    How does someone with 12 4th quarter come from behind victories and have no backbone?
    Deb you are a complete moron.”
    ——————————————-
    Hey Colt, how ya doin’ buddy?

  46. fear_the_cow says: Aug 24, 2010 3:06 PM

    Mccoy tapped out of the biggest game of his and his teammate’s career. Throughout the 09 season he offered excuse after excuse for poor performances. On 3 occasions he offered that he was sick. On several others he offered publicly that a receiver had run a bad route; in order to affix blame.
    The three times he was knocked out of a game were all due to to nerve/stinger issues. Simple contact. No specific broken bones, ligaments, joint separations. He clearly does not have either the toughness, or physical makeup to last in the NFL.
    His strengths were maximized in college and his weaknesses well masked (until ’09 when every good defense made him look bad). The dirty secret that most longhorn fans will not admit to themselves, is that he never would have made it through that Alabama game. He wanted out and took the out the first chance he got. He would rather play the unfalsifiable “woulda” game, than stand in there and see if he actually do it.

  47. jsbeck says: Aug 24, 2010 3:08 PM

    I think one will go. Colt has looked pretty bad in the PS but then again they knew he was a total project from the get go. I think Rat is a perfect 3rd stringer.
    Folks, we need OLD jerseys!

  48. Florio-is-a-tool says: Aug 24, 2010 3:16 PM

    A Tebow/Colt McCoy debate? How quaint. The preseason can’t end soon enough.

  49. megatron81 says: Aug 24, 2010 3:17 PM

    Nice draft pick Brown Stains. Your coach is Doug Heffernan, your president of football operations is a Walrus, and your 3rd round pick Doogie Hauser is gonna be cut.
    Your franchise is a joke. Lions mauled you last year and i can’t wait until we get the opportunity to do it again!

  50. OLDCRACKER says: Aug 24, 2010 3:23 PM

    They are not stupid enough to cut a Holmgren pick after just a few snaps. It’s a real eye opener for any rookie, he will learn and grow with time and good coaching.
    I can see Ratliff or Wallace going elsewhere before McCoy leaves. Colt will be fine.
    I also see the Browns drafting QB’s in the future and letting them develope under Holmgren and Delhomme. Eventually, the best one will establish himself and take over…probably 3 yrs down the road.
    Meanwhile Holmgren & Heckert do the work of building a solid foundation…something that should have been done 10 yrs ago.

  51. Deb says: Aug 24, 2010 3:29 PM

    @se18a29 …
    Aw, baby, did you lose your way to the kitchen again? If you’re waiting for a “sammich” from me, you’re gonna get real hungry.
    @BrownsTown …
    Hi, honey, have you been feeling neglected? Aren’t Donna and Blitz keeping you occupied? I didn’t have to diagnose Colt from my living room. Poppa McCoy was kind enough to tell the CBS team that it was nothing but they were going to protect the child for the upcoming draft. You must have missed that part while you were regaling that poor Bama girl you married with tales of the superiority of the Big 10. I’m sorry … where was their top team playing that day? ;)
    @Pr1cetag …
    Thank for making my point. I’ve watched the NC game several times, and I’m well aware that he abandoned his teammates in the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP solely to preserve himself for the upcoming NFL draft. That came across LOUD and CLEAR in his father’s message to the CBS team. Noooo, that was not Mack Brown’s decision. That was Poppa McCoy’s decision, and Brown went along because he had no choice. Mack Brown is a fighter.
    You may think it’s acceptable for a player to walk out on his teammates in the CHAMPIONSHIP after one jarring hit in order to preserve himself for the draft. I don’t. (And the Colts got what they deserved in the SB for quitting on the possibility of an undefeated season, too.)

  52. Catamount says: Aug 24, 2010 3:36 PM

    The problem is this–everyone expects rookie QBs to save the day. He is a human. Give him three years and don’t ruin him before then.
    However, the Jimmy Clausen pick is starting to look pretty awesome.

  53. Deb says: Aug 24, 2010 3:39 PM

    @reality police and SC21 …
    Let’s be clear: I’m not starting a Tebow/McCoy debate. Not a Florida fan. Not commenting on Tebow’s mechanics. Just making the simple TRUE observation that Tebow takes hits and keeps going. Yeah, he had to be taken to the HOSPITAL with a CONCUSSION during the Kentucky game. But he took hit after hit after hit in the Bama game. Yeah, he cried on the sidelines. I enjoyed that. Roll Tide. Doesn’t mean he wasn’t one tough SOB during the game.
    Uh-huh, SC21, McCoy stayed in and won the Nebraska game. Nice kick.
    @fear_the_cow …
    Thanks for the reality check!!!

  54. Deb says: Aug 24, 2010 3:42 PM

    @Bunny Hop …
    ROFL That’ll be the day.
    Grab your popcorn.

  55. fear_the_cow says: Aug 24, 2010 4:55 PM

    Great Point, “WildBill” from orangebloods. That is my opinion as well. As soon as Colt took the hit int eh Bama game, he let his fear and concern for his future, spook him into shutting it down. He was high fiving, grabbing his shoulder pads, and using his arm in a fashion that showed it was still usable.
    Would it be a risk to stay in? Sure, a little. But the ramifications of that game were such that he owed it to his teammates to try. He valued himself more.

  56. fear_the_cow says: Aug 24, 2010 4:57 PM

    Great Point, “WildBill” from orangebloods. That is my opinion as well. As soon as Colt took the hit int eh Bama game, he let his fear and concern for his future, spook him into shutting it down. He was high fiving, grabbing his shoulder pads, and using his arm in a fashion that showed it was still usable.
    Would it be a risk to stay in? Sure, a little. But the ramifications of that game were such that he owed it to his teammates to try. He valued himself more.

  57. ShaKey says: Aug 24, 2010 5:16 PM

    How does someone set the all time win record in College Football history with 45 wins and be a “Quitter”? —-See David Greene (Irony loves Seneca Wallace). Time will tell with McCoy.
    I really loved the way Colt “quit” against Nebraska, when Suh sacked him about a dozen times. Oh wait, he stayed in and led his team to victory.—-The way I saw it, he was 1/2 second away from blowing the game and the only offensive drive of the game. With all that experience, no way he should have held onto the ball that long. But, have to commend him after all the beatings, that drive was well played.

  58. TheGhostofBernieKosar says: Aug 24, 2010 5:16 PM

    in both of the preseason games that i’ve seen ratliff hasn’t done jack. he’s out on his ass and mccoy sits on his.

  59. steelers rule says: Aug 24, 2010 5:27 PM

    Like I have posted before, Texas players are soft! Name a great Texas player in the NFL? Rivky Williams? LOL O nce Texas players get in NFL they find out they do nto play 8-9 home games a year, leave their state maybe 2 time a year, and not playing Wyoming every week! TEXAS DOES NOT PRODUCE NFL GREATNESS!

  60. fear_the_cow says: Aug 24, 2010 6:28 PM

    Uh, steelers guy your own Casey Hampton is tough. Shaun Rogers. Derrick Johnson, Jamaal Charles, Cedrick Benson, Vince Young, Aaron Ross, Cedrick Griffin, Jordan Shipley, Quentin Jammer, Brain Orakpo, Leonard Davis…and on and on.
    And don’t look now but Ricky Williams is closing in on 10k rushing yards.

  61. VonClausewitz says: Aug 24, 2010 7:32 PM

    Given his success in college, his inexperience in the pro game, and the minimal amount of learning and playing time so far, it’s a bit of a rush to judgment to think he’ll suck. Personally I think he could be the sleeper of the draft. That doesn’t mean Cleveland won’t dump him for more immediate prospects though. These things happen.

  62. steelers rule says: Aug 24, 2010 7:38 PM

    Hey fear the cow.. like I say “GREAT NFL PLAYERS” Rogers is a headcase, Derrick Johnson is a below average lb, Tamba Ali is best player on K.C. def, Charles played half a season, Benson had 1 season in in nfl career( he was cut by the bears), Vince is a quitter, Shipley will be #4 wr in cincy, Offside leonard davis is a joke! None of those player will sniff greatness! Like I said TEXAS PLAYERS ARE GREAT BECAUSE THEY PLAY BAD TEAMS!

  63. fear_the_cow says: Aug 24, 2010 8:50 PM

    Aaron Ross, Quentin Jammer, Cedric Griffen, Casey Hampton, Brian Orakpo. DJohnson is not below average. That is ridiculous. But those other players are all very good to great pros.

  64. VoxVagina says: Aug 24, 2010 8:58 PM

    Peyton Manning sucked as a rookie. Patience, guys. GM Tom Heckert and Mike Holmgren understand that he’s more of a developmental QB, so they will let him learn for a while before they let him play. It’s like when Tom Brady was Bledsoe’s backup and Steve Young as Montana’s. Obviously I don’t expect Colt to play at that level, but my point is that learning the system for a few years never hurts. He will get his chance, and if he still can’t adjust to the NFL he’s out. At least he was not a top 5 pick. They lose nothing by keeping for a while and cutting him if he’s bad.

  65. Deb says: Aug 24, 2010 8:59 PM

    @steelers rule …
    Big Snack (Casey Hampton) went to Texas. He’s a great NFL player–and not just because he’s ours. Eric Metcalf was a great NFL player, too. So was Priest Holmes. And Bobby Layne was one of the best of his time, which is why he’s in the HoF. Time will tell what Young and Williams will do–and Limas Sweed when he recovers.
    My issue is with McCoy, not Texas. I couldn’t have more respect for Garrett Gilbert and wish him all the best this season.

  66. tobago says: Aug 24, 2010 9:55 PM

    Mccoy cant live on his college career, maybe he is not an NFL caliber quarterback (see Brady Quinn). Would like to see him on the practice squad but that would be unlikely because of his college career, he would definetly be picked up on waivers by another team

  67. mwcarolina says: Aug 24, 2010 11:51 PM

    (“Just making the simple TRUE observation that Tebow takes hits and keeps going. “)
    Tebow got hurt in one preseason game vs. the Bengals on a run play!! Listen i like Tebow, BUT you cant’ say that McCoy isnt tough. Yes he got hurt vs. Alabama, BUT he WANTED to come back in!!!! his dad, the team doctor AND Mack Brown told him NOT to gamble his future and not to play. McCoy isnt as tough as Tebow no, BUT he’s a tough kid. If given time, i think Tebow could be great and McCoy could be a good passer too.
    (“Uh-huh, SC21, McCoy stayed in and won the Nebraska game. Nice kick.”)
    and that is what you need to look at, that game, McCoy was nailed by Suh and the Nebraska defense, but he kept playing, he was tough that day.
    (“My issue is with McCoy, not Texas. I couldn’t have more respect for Garrett Gilbert and wish him all the best this season”)
    the guy you respect is the guy i worry about MOST as a Texas fan. I think Gilbert will struggle. he played well at times vs. Alabama yes, BUT then he threw some bad throws and lost the game, hopefully he turns it around, but this year no Jordan Shipley, unless a good reciever steps up, i worry about Gilbert and the passing game.

  68. paranoidandroid says: Aug 25, 2010 11:37 AM

    Deb says:
    August 24, 2010 11:50 AM
    Was suprised a G.M. with Mike Holmgren’s QB savvy took McCoy in the first place.
    Hate the Gators, but Tebow always stayed in the game, took his hits, and sometimes came out bloodied–but he never QUIT. McCoy folds just looking at a scary defense. Big shock–he left his first pro game. Big shock–turned out nothing was wrong with him. Story of his career. You can teach mechanics, but you can’t teach backbone.
    Pity that he’s going so quickly, though … I was so looking forward to seeing him faint on the field when he faced the Ravens, Bengals, and Steelers defenses.
    ________
    You’re wrong about Colt. Sure, I’m a longhorn fan and you’ll say I’m biased. Very predictable, but having watched all his games I can honestly say he is tough. I could also give you many games in which he played hurt but you’ve already made up your mind. Very few QBs come in their first year and do well. Cut him some slack. Somehow I thought you, of all people, would know that.
    Oh, and cutting your 3rd pick would and should send up some red flags that the powers that be don’t have it figured out.

  69. Deb says: Aug 25, 2010 2:11 PM

    @mwcarolina & paranoidandroid …
    I would expect Texas fans to be loyal to a record-holding QB, and time may prove you right about Colt. If so, I’ll be happy for him. From what I know of his off-field life, he’s a good person. My thinking usually isn’t so rigid that I’d damn a player after a single game. But I have one blindspot: Once I see someone fold under pressure–in any walk of life–it’s over for me. Cowardice is my one unforgivable sin.
    Yes, Colt took hits in the Nebraska game and stayed in. But great as Suh is, the Huskers defense didn’t compare with Bama’s. Texas went into that game not expecting much competition. By contrast, Colt had watched the Tide’s NFL-modeled defense crush Tebow–perhaps the biggest, most agile QB in college ball. As Longhorns fan fear_the_cow said, he was psyched out before taking the field. After that play was over and he was sitting atop the pile, the camera caught his face. That look said it all.
    Rewatch the game film. The hit didn’t even dislodge the ball, and he had full rotation of that arm the whole time he was off the field. He didn’t start dangling it until he came back to the sidelines after announcing he wouldn’t return. If the injury were legit, he wouldn’t have needed to play it up for the cameras. I read up on him afterward. He’s had other issues of leaving games with injuries that couldn’t be pinpointed–at Texas and in high school.
    My references to toughness–Colt’s or Tebow’s–aren’t about physical size or strength, but about mental toughness. It’s one thing to say you’d like to play while standing on the sidelines holding your arm and looking pitiful. It’s another to stay on the field with the flu, a broken hand, etc., as Tebow has done. (I was a Tebow-hater for his entire college career, so my respect is grudging. He’s an expensive property now, and the Broncos aren’t going to be as lax with the medical rules as Meyer was).
    The reason I have mad respect for Garrett Gilbert isn’t because I think he’s a great QB. It’s because he came off the bench in a terrible situation and faced that defense without flinching. You can teach mechanics. You can’t teach courage.

  70. DingyHarry says: Aug 25, 2010 5:42 PM

    Cut Colt McCoy in favor of Brett Ratcliffe ? I am all in favor of it IF they send Penguini out the door with him. The Browns supposedly drafted this clown to develop him over time. Veikune looks ready to where the “BUST” sign around his neck.
    They burn a 3rd round draft choice on this moron and now they might cut him in the preseason. That is pretty rare. I ll admit Clausen didnt look to hot for Carolina but he would have been a better choice in the second round over TJ Ward who probably would have been available in the 3rd round.
    It is quite easy to see that Penguini doesn’t know anything about quarterbacks. Keep Mccoy 3rd string or on the practice squad. Give the kid a chance to sink or swim. We all saw how you lovely decision to pull Brady Quinn after 2 1/2 games worked out, Mr. Head Coach !

  71. jmac09 says: Aug 26, 2010 2:13 AM

    @lufer
    sounds like someone is drinking the lions juice.

  72. DnBrnc says: Aug 26, 2010 4:32 AM

    McCoy=Epic Fail!!!
    I knew it!!

  73. DingyHarry says: Aug 26, 2010 1:45 PM

    It is pretty bad when Lions fans start talking smack about preseason games.
    And thus it came pass that mighty mousecatchers of the motor city slew the sorry Magina monster with a pigskin orb clutched in magnficent matthew’s hand in the 2010 preseason !
    You are the freakin’ Lions. Gimme a break and look up the difference between PRE, REGULAR and POST season. Of course, you cannot expect a Lions fan to know what Post season is because they havent been hardly at all.

  74. Patzer says: Aug 26, 2010 6:43 PM

    No wonder Cleveland sports are pitiful. You spend your time destroying players that haven’t even been given a legitimate shot. I’d take a one way flight out of there too.

  75. Huddy says: Aug 27, 2010 2:59 PM

    So much garbage spewing forth….so little real knowledge of player skill and development….projects are simply an idea that MAY produce results if properly put together. I am betting that Big Mike did not stake the future of the franchise on Colt. He has intangibles and is a good kid. Whether he ever makes it as a pro QB or not is simply a distant thought. I’d be more worried about the idiot fanbase that says “WE” when commenting. No wonder dudes look to get the hell out.

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