McNabb complains about Eagles, revisits overtime gaffe, denies puking

Quarterback Donovan McNabb no longer plays for the Eagles.  But that’s not keeping him from talking about the franchise with which he spent 11 NFL seasons.

In an interview with GQ magazine, McNabb complains that his former franchise never provided him with public support in the face of both internal and external criticism.  McNabb explained that he made his concerns known during a meeting following the 2008 season, which featured the first benching of McNabb’s career.

“We sat down and talked, and I got everything off my chest from [1999] on,” McNabb said, via Jeff McLane of Philadelphia Inquirer.  “It went all the way back to the [Terrell Owens] situation, it went back to us not winning big games, me being criticized for whatever, leadership. . . .

“They’ll say something to you in the building, but not publicly.  My
feeling was, ‘I’m out here getting cut up, where are you?  I’m always
defending and helping you guys, but where’s that support?'”

McNabb’s concerns apparently helped him receive the much-publicized “financial apology,” which entailed an increase in McNabb’s pay with no extension to his contract.

In the interview, McNabb also revisits his notorious failure to know that a regular-season game could end in a tie.  “I’m like, ‘Hey, we need to get this thing going, how much time is
left?’ ” McNabb said of the overtime period in the November 2008 game against the Bengals.  “I’m looking at the clock and the ref is like,
‘We’ve got another five minutes after this quarter if no one scores.’  I
didn’t think nothing of it, but I did hear it.  It was a mistake on my
part.  I’ve got to know the rules.”

So, basically, he has blamed it all on an official who apparently didn’t know the rules.

Finally, McNabb addressed the question of whether he vomited during crunch time in Super Bowl XXXIX.  “No, at no point did I throw up,” McNabb insists.

Maybe Donovan shouldn’t have provided such a broad response.

UPDATE:  You can see the entire interview at GQ.com.

116 responses to “McNabb complains about Eagles, revisits overtime gaffe, denies puking

  1. Wow, didn’t support you? Andy was your biggest supporter. He always said he thought you were the best QB in the league. You’ll always be an Eagle Donovan, but i’m not sure you’ve got this one right. Good luck with the ankle…

  2. Always a stand up guy,who was percieved to to be able to handle anything thrown at him……..still erractic to a degree on the football field alot of passes at guys feet

  3. He was too gassed to puke!!! I remember the Patriot player’s talking about that drive. They couldn’t believe the clock managment???
    Hell, the coaches couldn’t believe it either!
    Why is he taking so long? Hard to call a play or even think, when your gasping for breath?
    How can you play at that level and be that out of shape?

  4. Your video link shows him blowing water against Tampa. NOT in the Super Bowl.
    There probably weren’t enough cameras at the Super Bowl to capture him tossing his cookies there… right? Yet you pursue the urban myth.
    He’s an OK QB. Not a Hall of Famer.
    Maybe you can remind folks how cheerful and supportive the fans in Philly are.

  5. Yeah, McNabb was the only QB in NFL history to be criticized. HAHAHAHA! What a baby he is, and has always been.
    But at least Donovan is responding himself, as opposed to letting his mommy do it for him online. So I guess that’s progress.
    I would love for McNabb to play in NYC…
    …where Eli Manning was trashed for years. I wonder why they stopped killing him? Oh yeah, he WON something!
    …where the NY Daily News writes a headline congratulating A-Rod on his “tainted” achievement that day after he gets his 600th HR.
    This is classic McNabb…
    …whine, cry, play the martyr and victim.
    …act like you are the inly sports figure to be criticized by the press and fans.
    …blame everyone else for things that are his own fault.
    …lie about stuff that is easily disproved or that doesn’t even really matter (puking).
    And next week he’ll come out and say he “has never had any issues with the Eagles or Philly”, and the ESPN talking heads with fawn over his “graciousness and class”.
    POOR OLD DONOVAN. PROFESSIONAL VICTIM.

  6. FYI, that video you provided a link to of McNabb puking is NOT from the Superbowl, it’s from a game against Tampa. Florio, get your facts straight.

  7. Sorry, Skins fans, but McNabb is obviously still in Philly, mentally.
    That’s not good, not good at all.

  8. Wow… I can’t wait to hear who is to blame this season if the Skins falter…. Snyder, Shanny, Haynesworth??? Here is an idea for you McNabb, it is called responsibility & accountability for your own actions. You get paid enough to take all of that on by yourself, no need for Philly or any other FO to step in and shield you, pu$$y!
    This is the reason you will NEVER win a championship. You lack leadership qualities. It is your job to take the brunt of all things bad, Offense, Defense, Special Teams, whatever. After this amount of time in the NFL & seeing how guys like Manning, Brady, Brees, & others take on the responsibility for all things bad without crying to the magazines, you would think that you would grasp a clue!

  9. Hey mike_311….is that why the Giants had to go into the Eagles bag of tricks to help them win a superbowl?

  10. Mooch speaks the truth.
    Why the media fawn all over this passive aggressive guy is beyond me. You would think that ONE of them would be smart enough to figure out his act by now….ONE. I don’t know this at all for a fact but I am willing to bet that some of the local Philly media has more of a clue what a fraud that whole “classy team player” thing is.

  11. # Chris Fiorentino says: August 24, 2010 8:36 AM
    “Bad job of reporting, Mike.”
    Remove the comma and you have Florio’s handle for online forums.

  12. Mooch:
    When Rush Limbaugh made his comments about McNabb, I don’t remember McNabb playing the “victim” card. In fact, he shrugged the whole thing off.
    It’s amazing that a guy is called a “baby”, when he’s asked a question and gives an honest answer for it.
    I don’t blame Donovan one bit. They drafted Kolb in 2007, when it was obvious they needed immediate help on offense (like a WR). Then when they finally get good offensive players and weapons for Donovan, they trade him.
    I’ll be interested to see if Eagles fans micromanage Kevin Kolb, like they did Donovan. For some reason, I think he’ll get a pass.

  13. It was a mistake on my part. I’ve got to know the rules.”
    So, basically, he has blamed it all on an official who apparently didn’t know the rules.
    did that even make sense to you as you wrote it?
    and then post a video attempting to confirm him puking in the Super Bowl, that is him throwing up, NOT in the Super Bowl??
    yeah, and then get frustrated when people don’t recognize you as an actual “journalist”, Florio.
    Idiot.

  14. What do McNabb and the Eagirls have in common? Neither has ever won a Superbowl, and that streak is going to continue on.

  15. A few things here
    “McNabb complains that his former franchise never provided him with public support in the face of both internal and external criticism.”
    In some aspects, he’s right. I remember the T.O. situation (using this because it was brought up) and Donovan got lambasted in the media and by T.O. and for what? He had nothing to do with it. T.O.’s contract was not his problem. Why was his name even mentioned? But to the point, why didn’t the Eagles say anything in the media? Why did they wait so long to get rid of T.O.?
    “I’m like, ‘Hey, we need to get this thing going, how much time is left?’ ” McNabb said of the overtime period in the November 2008 game against the Bengals. “I’m looking at the clock and the ref is like, ‘We’ve got another five minutes after this quarter if no one scores.’ I didn’t think nothing of it, but I did hear it. It was a mistake on my part. I’ve got to know the rules.”
    Really Donovan? (C’mon, we all know he frequents this site) You do know that various media outlets have video of you saying, and I quote “I had no idea a game could end in a tie….I can’t imagine what would happen in a Super Bowl”
    “Finally, McNabb addressed the question of whether he vomited during crunch time in Super Bowl XXXIX. “No, at no point did I throw up,” McNabb insists.
    Maybe Donovan shouldn’t have provided such a broad response.”
    Someone mentioned it before, but yeah, the video is from a game in early September in Tampa, where it was ungodly hot. He was not the only one who heaved during that game. Furthermore, the Super Bowl is the biggest media spectacle in the world. There are cameras everywhere. There are so many cameras that there are cameras following the camera people. So someone needs to explain to me how, with all those cameras, that there is not one second of video, not one still, nothing, of him puking during the game. Can someone explain that?

  16. Some of the commenters ARE SO STUPID. Flo is a lawyer – Read the quote again kids….a little bit more carefully and literally…
    _____________
    “No, at NO POINT did I throw up,” McNabb insists.
    Maybe Donovan shouldn’t have provided such a BROAD RESPONSE.

  17. GR Patriot, he wasn’t out of shape. He was having a panic attack, hyperventilating trying to control himself as his nerves were causing him to fall apart.
    This is why I’m so glad to see him as a Redskin now. We’ll never be in a big game like that, under such pressure, so it won’t happen to him again. Poor guy…

  18. Choke artist. Always has been, always will be. Enjoy Washington.
    It was great to see him dancing around before Dallas sent him back to Philly with his tail between his legs, twice.

  19. Every year McNabb does an interview where he insists that everyone in Philly hates him and that he never puked in the Superbowl.
    This is why McNabb is a failure – all he does in complain. He won’t just SHUT THE &$%# UP and PLAY THE GAME.

  20. First… If you morons read the “broad statement” it is a sarcastic point that he has indeed puked before during a football game. Some of you idiots just like to Bash Florio and don’t get me wrong I enjoy it to when it applies, but here it doesn’t.
    Second… McNabb is a cry baby loser who blames everyone for his own problems. He will never win a championship and when he doesn’t make it to the hall of fame he will blame it on being black. Write it down.
    Third… Rush Limbaugh has been vindicated.

  21. birdmancometh says:
    August 24, 2010 8:31 AM
    Wow, didn’t support you? Andy was your biggest supporter.
    _______________________
    In more ways than 1.

  22. Finally, McNabb addressed the question of whether he vomited during crunch time in Super Bowl XXXIX. “No, at no point did I throw up,” McNabb insists.
    Maybe Donovan shouldn’t have provided such a broad response.
    ____________________
    Guys, the clip isn’t from the Superbowl, but the whole point was he said “At NO POINT did I throw up” and Florio is saying he shouldn’t have provided such a BROAD response, because at ONE point he DID throw up, in a different game. It’s a reach, but don’t kill the guy for getting his facts wrong. Kill him for taking things out of context and reaching.

  23. Oooh, Phillyhouse…we disagree, seemingly for a change. I respect your opinion in general but as far as the Limbaugh situation went…
    That was the beginning of the “Donovan As Victim” act. He has always passively aggressively played the victim card, and since the Limbaugh incident the sports media has been loathe to criticize him. Because they don’t want to be labeled idiots like Rush.
    ANY criticism of McNabb is labeled “hate”. And he rarely gets called out. And we’re all bad fans for not demanding that he be kept here (Edmonton, Cleveland, Green Bay fans were never accused of being part of their stars leaving, but we are).
    Jeez, ESPN blamed the fans for the trade, because we “didn’t appreciate” him. I don’t know about you, but no one in this neighborhood spoke with Lurie about that transaction.
    Baby? Yeah, baby…
    “I am sorry we can’t win all 16 games…”
    That was a disgrace. In Philly, NYC, or Boston that comment is unacceptable. Take that crap to a second rate sports town like DC – with apathetic fans and awful sports writers (Wilbon wrote an article about not being able to do his job and criticize McNabb because he’s McNabb’s ‘friend’).

  24. Whining about you last employer not supporting you isn’t cool. And worse than that, kind of brings up images of him sucking his thumb & perhaps wearing ladies underwear.
    He’s still only one of 4 qb’s in history to have more than twice as many tds as ints…so I’d take him on my team.

  25. “I don’t blame Donovan one bit. They drafted Kolb in 2007, when it was obvious they needed immediate help on offense (like a WR). Then when they finally get good offensive players and weapons for Donovan, they trade him.”
    1) McNabb’s weapons were good enough to be favored in multiple NFC Title games, which he lost.
    2) Offensive skill positions are the only thing we have. It is going to take 2 years to rebuild the defense and solidify the OL. So what does McNabb do for a team like that? Other than get killed?
    And he was leaving anyway, just as he well leave the Skins. SO get the picks and start rebuilding now. Since we’ve been doing that for a year already (started with Dawk).

  26. WildBirdOffense: What bag of tricks would that be? If you mean having a QB who is clutch, or being able to draft competent rookies, or have a coaching staff that knew what they were doing, then no.

  27. You tards saying it wasn’t the Super Bowl need to read. Florio is pointing out that McNabb said AT NO POINT DID I THROW UP.
    The next sentence is “Maybe Donovan shouldn’t have provided such a broad response.” meaning he DID puke at some point, maybe not in the Super Bowl, but he did.
    Christ, people are dumb. I’m a Philly fan through and through, and the way non-philly fans defend McNabb is sickening. The guy was a great QB… as long as you were already winning. How many come from behind 4th quarter victories did he have? Not a lot. If you were down more than 3 pts with

  28. McNabb was not even the Philly athlete under the most unfair pressure and criticism.
    That would be Cole Hamels. Champion and World Series MVP!

  29. WildBirdOffense says:
    “Hey mike_311….is that why the Giants had to go into the Eagles bag of tricks to help them win a superbowl?”
    Sorry WildBird. The Giants WON the Super Bowl. Therefore, they could NOT have used “the Eagles bag of tricks” which, clearly, consists of only failure in the biggest games. Over four decades and still not ONE Lombardi. Every other NFC East team has multiple Super Bowl wins. Time for a new “bag”. The one you assclowns have been using for years doesn’t work.

  30. Wow McNabb whining, what a surprise.
    The team gave him more than 100 mil of public support, if that isn’t enough he should retire and take his thin puking skin out of the public eye.

  31. McNabb was not even the Philly athlete under the most unfair pressure and criticism.
    That would be Cole Hamels. Champion and World Series MVP!

  32. Limbaugh was right. He was a decent QB on a defensive team. They were never an offensive juggernaut. But Limbaugh was criticizing the MEDIA’s TREATMENT of McNabb, not so much McNabb. Which is where Limbaugh was completely right. They coddled him from day 1 and many still do.
    Write it down- he will go in the Hall one day, despite the fact he was never one of the best QB’s in the league during his career and never won a Super Bowl. During his career, he has never been better than Farve, Manning, Brady, or Warner. Rothlisberger’s won 2 rings.
    But he’ll get in. You watch. Cuz he’s BLACKKKKK and a prominent conservative picked on him. Got a lot of media attention. Wait and see.

  33. You Philly clowns will wish to God that you still had McNabb once Kolb goes out this year and not only misses the playoffs but doesn’t even win 10 or 11 games, as McNabb as done consistently for the last few years. Not to mention the 5 NFC Championships; who do you think built Lincoln Financial? Talk about what have you done for me lately, you clowns sound like Janet Jackson!

  34. Just been waiting to see the lid come off this can of worms
    I knew it would only be a matter of time
    Unrest in the NFC way to go

  35. Chapnasty. says:
    August 24, 2010 9:14 AM
    “McNabb is a cry baby loser who blames everyone for his own problems. He will never win a championship and when he doesn’t make it to the hall of fame he will blame it on being black. Write it down”
    You do realize that McNabb may not be a HOF at this moment, but he still has 3-5 good years left? He’ll probably finish with over 300 TD passes, and he has a top 20 passer rating of all time…right now.
    Jim Kelly is in the HOF and he didn’t win a SB. However, Kelly had many playoff wins and impressive numbers. McNabb will have a similar career route.
    And I cannot remember the last guy I remember to state that the color of his skin prevented him from being in the HOF. So, I don’t know what you are talking about.
    “Rush Limbaugh has been vindicated”
    You mean the same Rush Limbaugh that said the NFL was full of players who behaved like gang members? The last I checked, McNabb hasn’t been convicted of any crimes. In fact the fools who get into trouble are a small percentage of the league.
    I GUARANTEE you Tony Romo wouldn’t have been successful with the receivers McNabb had early on in his career.

  36. I think he’s right. And so do some of the coaches who feel he’s been too nice about his treatment there. That organization hung him out to dry. I have distinct inside info and I know some people wished he would’ve publicly voiced his concernes. AND THEY STILL WORK THERE!!!
    Also, ask anyone from the FO to publicly discuss how they really feel about letting B. Dawk go. That’s a mistake that regret
    This is all fact!

  37. I agree Mooch he never did, I have a theory though he’s too normal for black fans in Philly to really like hence the Uncle Tom talk and if your white and racist you hate him because he is black. Lets just be real for a minute his personality just didn’t go over well in Philadelphia and you have to be born and raised in Philly to understand what I just wrote!!!

  38. Despite everything that is said about Mcnabb the truth does come out… nothing he has said is a lie he didn’t puke at the Superbowl if he did it would have been all over youtube he admitted to not knowing about overtime and not once have you heard andy reid or anyone else defend him publicly on the TO issue yeah they got rid of TO but that had more todo with not wanting to pay him than it was a show of loyalty towards Mcnabb….the proof will be shown this season already through 2 preseason games we see the same problems without Mcnabb (i.e. redzone issue’s,lack of running game,clock management)…1 common denominator ANDY REID!!!!

  39. I have said many times that McNabb receives favorable treatment from the media and is overhyped – because he is a nice guy and always has a quote and an interview. They like him, so he gets better coverage and more support.
    We’ve seen this a million times, people.
    And he stays out of trouble, and is a good family man. Makes sense to have him as the face of the league.
    Limbaugh, however, attributed this all to RACE. Which there was NO evidence of. And it ignored the obvious factors I cite above.
    Funny, through his idiotic assessment of the reasons for McNabb’s rapid rise to prominence, he CAUSED the very dynamic he thought he had observed. HE led to McNabb’s untouchable status! Because NO ONE in the sports media wanted to look as stupid as Rush. Then or now.
    And McNabb is happy to play the victim.
    Sorry, Rush is still 0-10,120 in terms of correct assessments. And he remains failed sports anchor, which was his lifelong dream before he became the leader of a political party.
    Oh, and Rush was not fired. He was a pu$$y and quit.

  40. As I have written before here many times. McNabb is truly a child. He never has learned that a Pro knows how to keep his mouth shut and doesn’t feel the need to yap about things that can’t but hurt him.
    He is not the brightest guy but he sure thinks he is. HE WILL NEVER WIN A BOWL….HE DOESNT HAVE THE INTESTINAL FORTATUDE AND I HATE HIS PUNK WAYS

  41. Mooch:
    BTW you killed Chiefs on the other board. He probably is still crying…
    I guess we can agree to disagree with this one. I admit McNabb’s sound bytes aren’t the best. It’s just that I don’t really get caught up in them.
    I agree with you about Hamels. I don’t care what kind of dog he’s seen with, or who his girlfriend is. Like you said, he brought us a WS, and that’s what matters.
    You mentioned our “weapons” in NFC championship games. In those NFCCG losses and the SB loss, the defense had 5 sacks and 4 turnovers. Am I blaming the defense for the losses? Of course not. My point is McNabb wasn’t the REASON why we lost. It was a combo of factors, and yes, he’s part of the blame, but not the WHOLE blame.
    And I really didn’t expect to win those games because we had Todd Pinkston, Fred Mitchell, James Thrash (vs the Bucs and the Panthers). And against the Cards, we had a rookie (Desean) and Kevin Curtis (who was hurt) and Reggie Brown (who stinks). Sorry those aren’t weapons (although I must admit Westbrook was a beast).

  42. Is anyone still surprised that he is complaining? That’s all the guy does. Back when he was really good/great it was a necessary evil, now that he’s declining it’s just too annoying to put up with.

  43. Black QB White RB says:
    August 24, 2010 9:35 AM
    “Limbaugh was right. He was a decent QB on a defensive team. They were never an offensive juggernaut. But Limbaugh was criticizing the MEDIA’s TREATMENT of McNabb, not so much McNabb. Which is where Limbaugh was completely right. They coddled him from day 1 and many still do.”
    The Philly media didn’t “coddle” McNabb. I’m not saying they treated him unfairly, either. The perceived “coddling” was because it was perceived that McNabb was booed on draft day by “all” Philly fans (which is a myth). It had nothing to do with McNabb being black.
    Write it down- he will go in the Hall one day, despite the fact he was never one of the best QB’s in the league during his career and never won a Super Bowl. During his career, he has never been better than Farve, Manning, Brady, or Warner. Rothlisberger’s won 2 rings.
    But he’ll get in. You watch. Cuz he’s BLACKKKKK and a prominent conservative picked on him. Got a lot of media attention. Wait and see.
    Not to nitpick, but McNabb had some good seasons when Warner was banged up with the Giants. Warner had a couple of down years, but of course, overall Warner was a beast.
    If McNabb makes it, it will be on his own merits. Randall Cunningham won’t get any “black sympathy” votes (and I’m not saying he’s a HOF), and I don’t think McNabb will, either.

  44. @ Mooch
    Rush was right and he never said anything bad about McNabb because he was black but that the media… again the MEDIA wanted him to succeed because the MEDIA had an agenda of seeing a black QB succeed. Throw in the fact that McNabb appears to be a nice guy and it all works out. I don’t care about Limbaugh really in this sense because it has been proven over and over to non Philly Kool-aid drinkers that he is a cry baby brat. Rush was forced to quit, anyone who knows anything about the situation, which clearly you don’t, knows that.

  45. Jim Kelly is in the HOF and he didn’t win a SB. However, Kelly had many playoff wins and impressive numbers. McNabb will have a similar career route.
    Really? McNabb is FAR from Kelly (who won NFC Title games), he’s more like Esiason or Bledsoe…
    Figure in two years (3 in the case of a lockout) McNabb is (IF he plays 16 games) at the following:
    McNabb – 39,200 / 260 TDs / 120 INTs
    Kelly – 35,467 / 237 TDs / 175 INTs
    Bledsoe – 44,611 / 251 TDs / 206 INTs
    Esiason – 37,920 / 247 TDs / 184 INTs
    Pretty much, Kelly gets in because of the Super Bowl appearances and USFL stats being included (to a lesser degree, like Moon). McNabb has neither of those.
    McNabb is very close to Esiason, actually. Who also went to as many SB’s (lost) and several NFC title games.
    Nothing wrong with that – Esiason was a great one. But I do not hear people calling Boomer a “HOF’er” like I do with McNabb.
    And a low INT ratio is not a stat that gets you in. That kind of stat becomes forgotten quickly.

  46. Bigots are so obvious. You bigots expose yourselves every time. I love it! Everything is about ethnicity for you folks. At least you’re easy to identify. No matter the topic, bigots will inject ethnicity, then blame the subjugated party(ies) for playing some ficticious “race card.”
    You know your life is a failure when only other bigots agree with you.
    Hilarious. Pathetic.

  47. Born and raised on Holmesburg, my friend.
    I agree totally. We all loved AI, he could run for mayor despite his many failings.
    But he was real. Genuine. Never made excuses.
    He was the anti-McNabb.
    Damn, I love AI.

  48. Who was Philly more unfair to: Cole Hamels or McNabb?
    I can’t see how anyone could say it was McNabb.

  49. Amen to all the negative comments. Donovan is a coward and always will be. His momma raised him like that. “Blame other people, Donovan. You are never at fault”. This is why he failed in Philly and will fail again for the Skins. No HOF either. T.O. was right all along!

  50. Wow I hate every last one of you.
    Its like the world’s 20 dumbest people get together and have comment parties on profootballtalk.com.
    You dont know what it’s like dealing with McNabb until you’ve dealt with him for 10+ years. Your theory that “He’s too normal of a black guy for the Philly black fans to relate too” might be the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. So why does the majority white people I know from Philly hate him too if he’s overall a “normal guy”?
    Im gonna go email China and ask them if they can just take us over now because I really cant deal with the people in this country anymore.

  51. BleedGreen says:
    August 24, 2010 9:27 AM
    You tards saying it wasn’t the Super Bowl need to read. Florio is pointing out that McNabb said AT NO POINT DID I THROW UP.
    Finally, McNabb addressed the question of whether he vomited during crunch time in Super Bowl XXXIX. “No, at no point did I throw up,” McNabb insists.
    “addressed the question of whether he vomited during crunch time in Super Bowl XXXIX.”
    “addressed the question of whether he vomited during crunch time IN SUPER BOWL XXXIX.
    apparently your interpretation is that Florio is implying McNabb has NEVER thrown up, EVER.
    Does that make more sense to you?

  52. Maybe if McNabb told T.O. to shut up or i’ll kick your ass,acted like there was a sense of urgency at the end of the Super Bowl,didn’t miss 2 easy touchdown passes to wide open recievers in the first half of the championship game against the Cards,knew that a game ended in a tie(my 13 year old neice knew that)Philly fans may have appreciated him more!He also was paid over 100 million dollars while in Philly…I’ll take all the heat anybody can dish out for that kind of money!With that said,anybody wanna buy an autographed McNabb football?

  53. @GRpatriot
    Right from the beginning of the game, McNabb took a beating. He had just taken a big hit when he was gasping for air. As for puking, I will go with McNabb on this one. I remember Hank Fraley the center saying he was gasping so hard he was almost puking (or something like that).
    ————–
    Now to Donovan. His troubles started with TO. He was never the same after that. He lost his leadership position in the clubhouse because he didn’t stick up for himself, i.e. he should have jacked TO up. McNabb was very consistent before the TO situation; he was inconsistent afterwards. He let it get to him. And today as has been his practice since the TO situation, he opens his mouth when he should keep it shut and he keeps it shut when he should open it.

  54. Chapnasty, this always gets too partisan, so let me put it like this…
    a) Rush correctly diagnosed the hyping and promotion of McNabb
    b) Rush incorrectly diagnosed the reasons for it
    I think that the incorrect diagnoses came from Rush’s expertise as a political guy as opposed to a sports guy. Had he taken race off the table, it was obvious why the media was hyping and ‘brother in law-ing’ Donovan.
    It was personal like for the person, and marketing of a likeable star who would always give them a good quote.
    There has never been a shred of evidence that the media was doing any of this because of race.
    Unless you have some, all of a sudden.
    Odd, though, that Culpepper was putting up better numbers than McNabb for an extended period and the media made no attempt to push him (whatever that means).
    Maybe they didn’t know he was black?
    A willing interviewee = a frequent interview. See Favre, Brett.

  55. don’t worry folks. we’ve seen this time and again. its don playing to the national audience again, where the fawning “journalists” never actually check any facts and buy his version of reality as if it were true.
    don has portrayed his victimhood for so long its tiring. but one would think when they gave him the extra 4 or 5 mil that rightfully should have gone to dawkins, and when they avoided trading him to oakland, and allowed him to go to his preferred team in d.c., that he would have been able to hold his water at least until the ensuing regular season. but not don.
    don never understood that at the time of the draft, the knuckleheads with eagle jerseys would have booed the selection of any player not named ricky williams. people didn’t go to new york to boo the selection of mcnabb. they went to boo joe banner and andy reid. yet poor don is still playing this i’m a millionaire victim card all these years later and these so called reporters want access so don’t ever call him on any of this.
    and the national media will never poll the referees about this latest bullshit he’s now peddling about not understanding basic football. sorry don, you are dumb as a doorknob.
    and if one watches the end of the eagles superbowl, after bruschi cheapshots him on a play, at least knocking dons wind out, the offense went into slow motion for the remainder of that drive, which was almost the rest of the game. we were all screaming at the television watching them waste their chance. one would think that the reporter would have then gone to ask the eagles coaches for their response to don blaming them.

  56. “So why does the majority white people I know from Philly hate him too if he’s overall a “normal guy”?
    What part of Philly are these people from? My Irish Catholic neighborhood is full of #5 jerseys.
    McNabb was a bit of an outsider, we just felt he never related to us. When he said T.O. calling him a name was “black on black crime”, he lost me. He just didn’t get it.
    Go to North Philly, Dmac! See what black on black crime really is.

  57. I agree Philly House. This country is headed for reverse racsist disaster. The land of entitlement. The cowards through the media that are motivated by their own greed and bs reputations. This country is destroying itself from the inside. Case in point: Rush vs Donovan. Donovan is a mediocre qb at best, but because he’s black he is one of the best and broken barriers like no other…

  58. McNabb has been a decent QB throughout the years but he has never been “elite”. Hall of Fame?!? The only way he gets in is with a SB victory and MVP. Slightly and inconsistently above average does not equate to enshrinement in Canton

  59. “On whether he was insulted when the Eagles traded him within the division to Washington: ‘I was more happy that it was over.'”
    Can we finally put to bed the notion that McNabb wanted to finish his career in Philly? He wanted out despite his protestations to the contrary.
    @Mooch
    #5 jersey in my closet (retired, of course).

  60. @ muchmaligned
    A bigot (in modern usage) is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own..
    Learn definitions first moron.

  61. And this is what makes him unlikeable to me;
    1. It’s been 11 years since the fans booed you at the draft, GET OVER IT.
    2. You’re “black on black crime” about Owens. I pick up bodies of real “black on black” crime everyday in the street of Philadelphia.
    3. I threw up on the field during the Super Bowl…..Why won’t they support me? Maybe if you showed hustle during the last 6 minutes of Super Bowl they would.
    P.S. I HATE CHUNKY SOUP!!!!

  62. MOOCH, seriously are you a DMac expert? You are an idiot. Talk, Talk, Talk, Talk. Do us all a favor and try to get some work done instead of telling us what you know about McNabb. How many more posts are you going to make. Let me guess you post something then 2 minutes later you are pissed because it has not been posted yet, you check back 5 more times to see if anyone has commented. Loser!

  63. #81 is in my closet. I have owned an #82 (Quick) and a #92 (White). Always wanted to get a #48 Hopkins throwback. Or #41 because of Byars hit on Pepper Johnson.
    Lunar Pie – we’ll keep the farm subsidies coming.

  64. The comment regarding never puking just proves the insanity which Philadelphia coaches and fans had to endure during his 11 years here.
    He was a decent QB, but not Hall of Famer. He played his cards behind the scenes and lied out in the open.
    Asante and Co. will pick him off at least twice in each game this year. McNabb has a terrible habit of focusing in on one receiver for an entire game.

  65. Lurch – shut up and go punch your clock.
    You have tolls to take.
    I love people that can’t make points and then cry about it.

  66. As an organization the Eagles do not know what leadership is, of course they didnt support him.

  67. Lurch – be sure to get your boss that cup of coffee he wanted.
    And be sure not to leave before 4:59:59.
    And fill out your timesheet!

  68. @PhillyHouse
    So you think that DonnyMac is going to 3 more Super Bowls? I’ll be glad to give you some odds.
    And what’s with this Philly never supported me crap from McNabb? What’s the matter, Andy didn’t tuck you in at night and read you bedtime stories? Tell us Donny, how come Hugh Douglas had to confront TO? How come YOU failed to take YOUR leadership position? Too scared of getting your ass kicked? You got punked by Owens. You know it and everyone else knows it. Nice air guitar skills, though.
    So tell me Redskins’ fans, you got to be excited about your QB after hearing this latest whine.

  69. We all have different personalities. McNabb is a great athlete and a very good QB who does not respond to critcism very well.
    Not a good thing if you play in Philly.

  70. No worries D-Mac, doubt the average Iggle fan counts GQ amongst their bathroom reading material.
    But hey, should they ever need toilet paper come October 3rd…..

  71. PhillyHouse says “I GUARANTEE you Tony Romo wouldn’t have been successful with the receivers McNabb had early on in his career. ”
    LOL I love your “guarantee” there. So official, you put it in CAPS. Guess it must be true if a random Philly fan guarantees something. Well I GUARANTEE that you suck and the entire Eagles organization sucks.
    And for the record…I also love how the very same WR corp (without T.O.) that was the biggest weakness for the Cowboys before last season became one of the best when Romo’s in there with them. (Austin, Williams, Crayton, Hurd, Ogletree….thats just a star studded WR corp right there, eh? LOL)
    You’re so cute PhillyHouse

  72. McNabb said of the overtime period in the November 2008 game against the Bengals. “I’m looking at the clock and the ref is like, ‘We’ve got another five minutes after this quarter if no one scores.’ I didn’t think nothing of it, but I did hear it. It was a mistake on my part. I’ve got to know the rules.”
    Lie, lie, lie. A real competitor, a real QB, if he was told that by the refs, would have been screaming about it after the game. “They told me I had five more minutes!”
    Two years after the fact he says it’s not his fault, comes up with this story for the first time. What a scumbag….

  73. philcommander:
    not a good thing if you play pro football. Face it, #5 is an embarassment. He choked in the SB and cried when the best wr he ever had got intense about wanting the ball.

  74. In the end, what does it matter?!? Cornflorio makes comments (re: puking) like a child. Next she’ll have a post “yeah, but this one time @band camp…he looked at me like he wanted to kill me.”
    I’ve defended DMac and his abilities for quite a while. He is a very, very good quarterback. I’ll let the voters decide if he’s into Canton. The losses, as well as the victories, are not all his doing.
    The Defense shares the blame for the Super Bowl loss, the NFC Championship losses, the regular season losses as well as their victories.
    Fact: DMac can ball.
    Fact: Kolb’s turn in Philly, he can play. We’ll see how good when it goes live, but in preseason he looks to have the skills.
    Fact: Hard as this is to say, DMac looked the same the other night playing for the ‘skins. They will be a better team.
    Hopefully, the Eagles’ line will play well and they will compete, once again, for the division, conference and Super Bowl.
    Check out their 10 year run, it’s very impressive!

  75. A “broad response” to a very specific question. You people can try to read into it all you want that he said he never, ever, in his entire life, cross his heart and hope to die, stick a needle in his eye, puked; when in fact, he said that he never puked in regards to “during crunch time in Super Bowl XXXIX.”
    Perhaps we should also start being critical of a qb that says he didn’t see the defender. Of course he would have seen him, on other plays.

  76. Let’s leave it at this, can we tally up:
    1) # of times “McNabb” and “complains” are in the same story
    VS
    2) # of times “Tom Brady” and “complains” are in the same story
    VS
    # of times “Peyton Manning” and “complains” are in the same story
    That should tell us if McNabb is, indeed, a thin-skinned complainer.
    And now, I have to leave and ponder the cutting of Willie Parker & Larry Johnson – who I was told were “great FA signings” who were going to light the Eagles up.

  77. Isnt this one of many times where Ronde Barber shat all over Mcnabb? Dude still has nightmares about him.

  78. Here go, in print McNabb complaining AGAIN. This is why he doesn’t have a Superbowl ring, because he isn’t a winner. He is happy to be in the league, happy to make money and happy to never ever take the fall. Pass the blame on everyone else.
    I was a huge mcnabb fan his whole career until the end. The guy is one of the extremely rare examples of a black guy who grew up as a spoiled black kid. He whines, and doesn’t own up to his own shortcomings. He never says, “This is my fault”. He is a little bitch and I would say it to his face and he wouldnt’ do a damn thing about it.
    You see Kolb right away man up and say what he needs to do better. This is why white QB’s will never go away. They are just better at being leaders. McNabb is delusional if he thinks he is a leader, he avoids blame the first chance he gets.

  79. McNabb should learn to keep his mouth shut and learn from Eli Manning. Earlier in his career Eli Manning was criticized far worse than McNabb has ever been or any QB in the NFL. Eli never complained and always took the criticism like a man.

  80. “”I didn’t think nothing of it, but I did hear it. It was a mistake on my part. I’ve got to know the rules.””
    How did you get that he blamed the official from what he said? You’re as bad as my terrier dog who has selective deafness…….. And the video is from Tampa.

  81. I haven’t seen a QB as successful as McNabb get roasted over the coals by the fans since Danny White and he followed a Super Bowl winning QB.
    Kevin Kolb walks onto the field with a group of receivers that McNabb would have killed for and no matter how he does, he can’t complain that he wasn’t handed the keys to a far better car than what McNabb took over. I challenge ANYONE to show me a QB that had as much success with as screwed up a bunch as Todd Stinkston, James Trash, Freddie Mitchell, Greg Lewis and Reggie Brown (It’s no coincidence that his best year was when he finally got a decent WR, TO). They FINALLY got him a pair of good receivers to go with a decent TE and then they send him off to the Redskins, so now, he gets to start over.

  82. Weeeh! Weeeh!
    McNabb is a whiner who lacks HEART. That’s why so many in Philly were ready to see him go, in spite of his “numbers.”
    Who was Philly more unfair to: Cole Hamels or McNabb?
    Give it to Cole Hamels… he whined his way through last year, but has clearly “manned up” this year and done his job. McNabb could learn a thing or two from Hamels!

  83. “No, at no point did I throw up” was a direct reference to the super bowl question….
    it is just idiotic to interpret that to mean something beyond that.
    florio=foxnwews

  84. “So, basically, he has blamed it all on an official who apparently didn’t know the rules.” per Cornflorio.
    Not at all what he said. Actually says that other players had said that.
    __________________________________
    Curiosity got the best of me and I read the interview. Once again, it amazes me that 2 people could read the same thing and get such opposite views.
    You sparce quotes, take things out of context, and generally make shit up. Then, you post it as something that sort of is the truth only because you post it. Followed up by ignorant folks who then respond in kind with silly blather.
    Got it, you’re still a deuche w/a squirrel ducktaped to your dome..

  85. Donovan…we are all sorry..!!!
    I guess your lunch has to come up tp officially puke.
    But you can HEAVE dry..and is same as puke…just nothing ends up on linemens’ feet.
    Either way…don’t even try to defend your last drive lack of performance vs NE…cause it was pitiful.

  86. That is a blantant lie. Mcnabb was as supported in the media as any franchise qb. Andy Reid Joe Banner and Jeffery Lurie continually kissed his ass in the media. Maybe if they did act like Mcnabb is trying to make it seem he would have been a better qb. Maybe if the Eagles didnt defend him all the time he would have changed his faults.
    Mcnabb is stubborn and has a huge ego. when someone disagreed with mcnabb they were wrong and labeled a trouble maker. Then afterwards he would passive aggressively attack them in the media. Not straight calling them out but would say things like were really young at wr and they need to do better getting off there blocks. Or I need to be more accurate and we need to cut down on the drops.
    When a player not named Mcnabb had a bad game he would let everyone know it. He never supported his teammates. He wouldnt come out and say Jason Peters played bad but he would beat around the bush so we all know what he was trying to say. But when he was the problem he wouldnt admitt it and take it 100% he would always to point out everyone else problems.
    I loved Mcnabb in philly and wanted him to stay but I cant sit here and listen to him out right lie and bash the team. Eventually andy reid and joe banner will say enough and I wont be the only 1 pointing out these things about Mcnabb.
    (I know this is all over the place and not spelled right. I already wrote it once and my computer deleted it so I just said screw it and rushed it)

  87. theKING is sickened by this article in GQ.
    1st-the INT to Ronde Barber wasn’t in his 1st NFC title game, that pick went to Aeneas Williams of the Rams. The Barber pick was next, followed by the Manning/Panthers pick-fest.
    Mc5 is going out loud and dirty. Follow your own advice “keep our name out yer mouth”
    KING~out

  88. smilergrogan says: August 24, 2010 10:49 AM
    don never understood that at the time of the draft, the knuckleheads with eagle jerseys would have booed the selection of any player not named ricky williams. people didn’t go to new york to boo the selection of mcnabb. they went to boo joe banner and andy reid. yet poor don is still playing this i’m a millionaire victim card all these years later and these so called reporters want access so don’t ever call him on any of this.
    THANK YOU Finally someone says what I have been pointing out since that day. They would have booed anyone drafted before Ricky Williams. Also there was about 50 people there booing him so now all the sudden every Eagles fan in every state and country booed Mcnabb when he was drafted. They talk about Mcnabb not being treated fairly well how fair is it to make it seem like every Eagles fan booed him when he was drafted when it wasnt even 1% of Eagles fans. And what about the countless other players booed at the draft since then by the Eagles and other teams fans. I dont hear them making a big deal about that.
    Kolb was booed when he was drafted. So he better get the same poor Kolb story everytime his name is brought up like Mcnabb. I was at the Eagles draft party when he was drafted and let me put it this way compared to Kolb Mcnabb was getting applause.

  89. muchmaligned says:
    August 24, 2010 10:15 AM
    Bigots are so obvious. You bigots expose yourselves every time. I love it! Everything is about ethnicity for you folks. At least you’re easy to identify. No matter the topic, bigots will inject ethnicity, then blame the subjugated party(ies) for playing some ficticious “race card.”
    You know your life is a failure when only other bigots agree with you.
    Hilarious. Pathetic.
    —This is really cute. I guess this is one of those “open-minded” people that are only open-minded if you agree with everything they try to shove at you. You have to agree with them or face the consequences. You can never criticize anyone of color because if you do, then you are obviously racist. Funny enough, people like this think they rule what is and what isn’t deemed “racist”.
    I bet this is the type of person that likes to reference MLK, even though he was against what they try to preach.
    “Ficticious” Race card? It is very real. Wake up to reality from your nieve slumber. How about we judge people on their character and accomplishments starting………now.
    First order of business is to take “Race” off of job applications.

  90. Following up on Mooch’s post, here are the stats on a few actual HOF QB’s:
    BRADSHAW – TD’s 212 / INT’s 210 / YARDS 27,989
    MONTANA – TD’S 273 / INT’S 139 / YARDS 40,551
    NAMATH – TD’S 173 / INT’S 220 / YARDS 27,663
    AIKMAN – TD’S 165 / INT’S 141 / YARDS 32942
    ___________________________
    DONAVAN (current) – TD’s 216 / INT’s 100 / YARDS 32,873
    Obviously these guys won superbowls (but football is the ultimate team game, one guy does not control a game’s outcome), but I think McNabb compares pretty well. He will be in for sure.
    Also TD/INT ratio is a hugely important stat. Turnovers are often what decides football games. McNabb doesn’t turn it over much, that’s big.
    All Philly fans suck.

  91. @zbone
    “He will be in for sure.” Really? Namath is in as much for his celebrity as anything. Is Donny a “celebrity”? A couple of soup commercials don’t cut it. He trails Bradshaw, Montana, and Aikman 11 Super Bowls to nothing. Yes, he doesn’t turn the ball over much. But DMac is more likely to be sacked than Drew “Mr. Elusive” Bledsoe. He also trails all the previously mentioned QB’s in yards per attempt. He doesn’t make the “big” plays. McNabb certainly isn’t a bad QB. He’s also clearly not one of the All-Time greats.

  92. zbone…
    “Obviously these guys won superbowls”
    Yes, and that matters A LOT. And they also got to more than one.
    “Also TD/INT ratio is a hugely important stat.”
    No, it isn’t. Else you’d be on the Steelers boards clamoring for Neil O’Donnell to make the HOF.
    That post shames you.

  93. Namath made it because of marketing.
    Sad but true.
    McNabb has done nothing to move the needle in terms of awareness or affinity as Namath did.
    So that’s another miss by you.

  94. And, as you always point out when excusing Donovan’s shortcoming, he has been in a passing offense that far outpaced anyone you mention.
    So the apples:apples is not accurate. McNabb is a stats guys, plain and simple.
    Oh, yeah, and unlike the others you mention…he never won anything. Small point, that.

  95. @Mooch
    You’re right about the passing offense statement. Think Aikman might have had a few more passing yards if he didn’t have that other guy in the backfield rushing for 18K? Bottom line, HoF QB’s make plays when they have to. How many plays has McNabb made when the Eagles really needed it?

  96. If you don’t look at Bledose and Esiason and think “that’s a HOF’er”, then why would you think it of McNabb?
    Why?
    I am an Eagles fan and I cannot understand it.

  97. If you don’t look at Bledose and Esiason and think “that’s a HOF’er”, then why would you think it of McNabb?
    Why?
    I am an Eagles fan and I cannot understand it.
    Wait, you’re not serious are you?
    For the record, I was for the trade of McNabb. I think a change was needed and the roster overhaul was almost complete. The only thing left was to give the keys to the shop to Kolb.
    I also think he’s got a 50/50 shot in getting into Canton, and since the PFWA are the ones casting votes, it’s better than even money he eventually gets in.
    But comparing the guy to Esiason and Bledsoe, saying both should be worthy of the HOF if McNabb is, and in the same breath calling McNabb a “stats guy” is just completely stupid. No other way to put it.
    Lets start with Boomer, shall we?
    13 yrs
    3 teams
    Career win-loss record= 80-93
    Out of his last 8 seasons as a starting QB, Esiason only had ONE winning season as a starting QB and ZERO playoff berths.
    Career playoff record 3-2, 2 wins coming in his only sustained playoff run in 1988
    Esiason might have more att, comp, yds, tds…but he also BY FAR has more interceptions, almost to a 2 to 1 margin. Also, Esiason retired at 36 and only has 5K and change more in passing yardage. It’s not out of the realm of possiblity that McNabb could have that at the same age.
    But Boomer deserves the Hall over McNabb, because……McNabb….is…..a ….”stats” guy.
    Right.
    Now, Frankenstein in cleats ….(Bledsoe)
    14 yrs.
    3 teams
    Career win-loss record of 98-95
    Same as Esiason, with a playoff record of 3-2, only sustained run in 1997. As matter of fact, after Bledsoe’s 5th season in the NFL, he NEVER returned to the playoffs. NEVER.
    There is no denying his passing yardage, completions and attempts. It’s clear he was a better pure passer than both Esiason and McNabb.
    But, (and I didn’t post it because it defies the realm of stupidity) the remark you made about the TD/INT ratio not being that important in judging a quarterback’s play?
    Quite simply, there isn’t enough words in the English language to accurately describe how incredibly dumb that comment was.
    So you don’t think there isn’t any correlation to near TWO HUNDRED interceptions EACH for both Bledsoe and Esiason and win-loss record, not to mention their playoff record, as a starting QB in the NFL?
    Ask the Vikings about that.
    Hell, ask the Colts.
    Better yet, ask the Eagles. What was the common theme in almost every playoff loss under McNabb?
    Turnovers. By the QB.
    Facts don’t lie.
    It’s brutally simple. When McNabb didn’t turn over the football multiple times, they won.
    When he did, they almost always lost.
    And the main reason he’s got almost a 2/1 ratio in wins over losses is one key reason
    He didn’t turn over the football.
    But pooh-poohing his protection of the football and saying the Maryland Albino and Frankenstein are just as deserving into Canton as McNabb is …..just flat out wrong…..and dumb.
    Holmsberg, eh? It shows.
    Those two players are nothing BUT stats

  98. Oh, so now that it helps McNabb’s case we go back to the “its a team game” canard…
    My post is in response to people who say McNabb’s NUMBERS are enough to get him in all by itself. They aren’t. Clearly.
    And your case about low INTs is NOT a stat that gets you in the HOF. That’s the kind of stat that gets forgotten about in a few years. Please.
    That’s pretty much the sum total of your argument. It is the only card you can play. I get that. But while I respect McNabb’s ability to be overly risk-averse and how that impacted W-L’s, it is not a stat that matters.
    He wins a SB, he’s in. He doesn’t, he has to wait a long time or may never get in.
    His numbers are not enough.
    I am sorry we couldn’t all grow up in Lansdale, or some joke suburb, like you.

  99. “Those two players are nothing BUT stats”
    No crap. Are you so dim that you think I was promoting Bledsoe and Esiason for the Hall?
    Yet, Bledsoe went to 1 SB, was instrumental in getting the Pats to the SB Brady won. That is more than McNabb ever did.
    I guess the Upper Darby school system, or whatever joke suburb you grew up in, didn’t teach reading (or sentence construction or grammar…every sentence doesn’t need to be a paragraph).

  100. “It’s brutally simple. When McNabb didn’t turn over the football multiple times, they won.
    When he did, they almost always lost.”
    Agreed – and he always lost the big game.
    If you look at it, McNabb-Reid only won about 6 games they were not supposed to win in a decade. I lived it. If you woke up and said “I have no idea how we are going to win this game”…it was almost always a loss.
    Playoff game at Bears, maybe 3 vs Dallas, NYG playoff game are noteable.
    But by and large, they lost every game they were not supposed to win.
    So I do not look at McNabb and think “winner”.

  101. @ Mooch
    Allow me to start by saying I usually agree with your observations. I feel you are a very realistic Eagles fan (which cannot be said for all). You understand the whole MV thing better than most Eagle fans, in general I very much respect your views. This one statement though isn’t really accurate: “Bledsoe went to 1 SB, was instrumental in getting the Pats to the SB Brady won. That is more than McNabb ever did.”
    Mc Nabb may have never won a SB but 5 NFC championship games & 1 SB appearance isn’t something to be minimized so easily.
    To say Bledsoe did more for the Pats than Dono did for the Eagles simply isn’t right. The year Bledsoe took NE to a SB he had a HC & a DC that had won 2 SB’s, a HOF running back, better WR’s including Ben Coats at TE & a very good defense.
    Donovan had sub-par WR’s for most of his Eagle career, Westbrook although he is/was a very good player is no HOF RB, a coach that is the worst at clock management in the NFL & a very good defense.
    Andy or Parcells is a no brainer, Westbrook or Martin also. Defenses & defensive coordinators are similar & even though JJ was a great DC, the edge goes to BB in that department.
    Not trying to say Mc Nabb was the greatest, or that he was the second coming of Bart Starr or Unitas but jeez, he is/was a hell of a lot better than Bledsoe.
    It is understandable how you feel, with 5 NFCCG appearances, Dono should have delivered at least 1 championship, that isn’t in dispute but c’mon to say Bledsoe did more in NE than Dono did in Philly… that’s more of a fan talking than a guy objectively looking at what Mc Nabb brought to the Eagles.

  102. Agreed – and he always lost the big game.
    Really, Holmsberg?
    Name me one single game where the direct result of his play, with the ball in his hands, was the SOLE REASON of why they lost.
    Give me one “Favre” moment, genius. Just ONE. Was he picked off vs Tampa? Sure. But that TD would have gotten them within THREE POINTS of the lead with under 3 mins left to play. Hardly a game winning play.
    Arizona? If Casper Milktoast would actually make a play and stop looking for the officials after he makes a drive-killing mistake, you might have a different outlook.
    Has he turned the football over? Sure.
    And like I mentioned before, more times than not he didn’t and THAT is the single most direct reason why they won and lost football games when he was a starter.
    Again, and predictably so, you have absolutely no recourse or rebuttal on the direct correlation of the winning percentage of this football team and the turnover ratio of the starting QB for the last 12 seasons. The facts are OVERWHELMING not only in McNabb’s case but ANY NFL QB who doesn’t turn over the football.
    It is the single most important responsibility of ANY STARTING NFL QB. Do the research, Holmsy.
    Why do you think there has been a sudden influx of rookie QBs that have carried their team to the playoffs?
    The reason is BLINDLY obvious: They don’t turn the football over. And if they did, it was earlier in the season and minimized it as the year went on.
    But by and large, they lost every game they were not supposed to win.
    Really?
    HOLY SHIT.
    I had no idea there were better teams in the league. Someone better tell Roger. You can actually lose games to better teams than your own?
    Schefter know about this? Mort?
    Groundbreaking stuff there.
    But what shouldn’t really be taken into account is for a 7 year span, only two teams won more games than Philadelphia, with McNabb starting as the starting QB for a majority of those games.
    Ignore that statistic. Invalid.
    Btw, Holmsy… anytime you would want to compare the academic achievement scores of ANY of the surrounding county high schools compared to the that BASTION of higher learning (59% anyone?) known as the School District of Philadelphia…..you just let me know, Corky…ok?
    It is the smug, insecure, and provincial way of thinking that “yous people” have in the inner parts of that cesspool of a city that rubs people the wrong way.
    But I’m sure you already knew that…..but don’t really care, right?
    Stay classy, Holmsberg. Represent.

  103. TRUE STORY !!! A friend and I approached Mcnabb at waikii village during pro bowl week 2003.
    I asked him to sign an autograph for my son who was a fan at the time….NOBODY ELSE WAS AROUND !!! mCsNOBB LOOKED AT ME AND REPLIED ” NO…I JUST CAME FROM A PARTY” !!!! I thought….what in the HELL does that have to do with the price of beans..!!
    Oh well…screw you mcnabb…it’s a shame my skins picked your egotesticle butt up!

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