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Sidney Rice undergoes hip surgery

That didn’t take long.

Less than ten hours after news broke that Vikings wideout Sidney Rice was strongly considering hip surgery, Chip Scoggins of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune reports that Rice has already undergone the procedure.  Rice confirmed to Scoggins it “went well” via text message.  Rice is expected to miss roughly half the season.

The Vikings have every right to be upset with how this was handled.  Judd Zulgad of the Star-Tribune was speaking in SIRIUS NFL radio Tuesday as the news broke and speculated that Rice’s lack of a contract resulted in the delay to have surgery and that Rice likely opted for the procedure because he’s only making $550,000.

Rice practiced all offseason and news of his hip injury came from his agent in early July.  The Vikings never showed interest in handing Rice a new deal, so Rice may not have wanted to take any risks by playing before first having surgery. 

Florio also points out (on his way to the PFT Daily batcave) that the timing of the decision is interesting in relation to Brett Favre.  Would Favre have come back if his No. 1 receiver was out half the season?

Bernard Berrian is a fine deep threat that can help replace Rice, but
the Vikings’ wideout depth off the bench is now among the league’s worst.  Percy Harvin’s ability to play despite his migraines takes on even greater importance now.

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  1. Hauschild says: Aug 24, 2010 10:01 AM

    Like old Irv Favre would have said, “Well, there’s nothing we can do about it now. Time to suck it up and move forward.”
    Unfortunate, but such is life when you’re dealing with grown men that aren’t terribly bright.
    Percy Harvin is going to have a monster year.

  2. MNSportsGuy79 says: Aug 24, 2010 10:06 AM

    If this is true I’ve lost a lot of respect for Sidney

  3. irishgary says: Aug 24, 2010 10:08 AM

    Just a totally dysfuntional franchise. Losers

  4. Run1out says: Aug 24, 2010 10:09 AM

    Florio didn’t point it out, Ross Tucker, Peter King and Judd Zulgad did on the same interview you stole and posted here.

  5. wope says: Aug 24, 2010 10:11 AM

    Add another excuse to the excuse pile for when the Saints steamroll the Vikings at the season opener.

  6. simple_simon1 says: Aug 24, 2010 10:14 AM

    Hauschild:
    I hope you’re right about Harvin. I really like the kid. But he has to figure out all those problems with his health or he may only be able to be on the field once in every 3 games at the pace he’s going.
    This was a real garbage move from Rice. Kid has one monster year and leaves the Vikings out to dry. Not cool.
    I was hoping to see him and everybody else play my Lions when I come up in September. Looks like I’m slowly losing out, one player at a time.

  7. Norseman says: Aug 24, 2010 10:15 AM

    While I’m a Minnesota resident and Vikings fan, I think Rice’s timing is idiotic on two points. One, if he was told by two out of three specialists to get the surgery, he should have done so ASAP to get ready for the season on time. Two, if he delayed because of money or contract issues, that’s a stupid, selfish, and punk move. This can only work against him. He’ll miss valuable playing time to increase his value even more, he’ll create hard feelings with management and possibly teammates for his selfishness, and his value may even go down with any missed playing time. It also gives another WR an excellent opportunity to have a breakout year. It all may back-fire on him when people start asking, “Sidney who?”

  8. Vee says: Aug 24, 2010 10:17 AM

    Never want to see harm come to anybody – especailly great athletes injured in their prime. But this will be devesatating to the Vikings. Just another piece of bad news that will ultimately lead to a 6-10, maybe 7-9 season.
    Then, will the Vikings fan base, FINALLY shut the hell up? Probably not because they’ll think up more excuses – like the bizzare NFL conspiracy theory that led them to turn the ball over FIVE times in the NFCCG last year.
    Logic, facts, truth, reality, etc., don’t seem to mean much to the Vikings fans. They live in some fantasy world where their mean spirited and arrogant nature is in full view. The chickens are finally coming home to roost, and the rest of the NFL fanbase will enjoy watching this team implode.

  9. David.walden05 says: Aug 24, 2010 10:17 AM

    I figured there was no way Minny was going to repeat the luck they had with there lack of injurys this year losing only 1 starter to injured reserve last year.
    Looks like its begun already with Rice’s hip Surgery and Harvin’s migraines.

  10. superb owl says: Aug 24, 2010 10:20 AM

    chilly might be smarter than he looks

  11. Murgen says: Aug 24, 2010 10:22 AM

    Hey Huaschild, still making idiotic statements. Kind of hard to have a monster year when you can’t see and are incoherent in the hospital. Good job, Keep it up and you’ll win the new Hauschild award over at packerforum.com.
    Farvt is probably pissed off cause he got punked by the vikings/longwell/Allen and others. I’d bet money the vikes told Rice to be optimistic about the hip so that Brett would think his biggest weapon would be on the field. It wouldn’t surprise me if Farve changes his mind and goes back into retirement now. I’m sure he wants to.
    Lots of teams are gonna be gunning for you this year. Dallas is really gonna look to knock Farve around after the way Farvt ran the score up on em.
    The love boat just hit an ice berg. All aboard viking fans, all aboard.

  12. jimmySee says: Aug 24, 2010 10:27 AM

    Without Rice, the Vikes and AP will see a lot of 8 in the box.

  13. Ambrose says: Aug 24, 2010 10:28 AM

    What exactly is the problem with this guy’s hip, and how did it get injured? Off-season? Last season? What?

  14. Bob Nelson says: Aug 24, 2010 10:34 AM

    Rice was the only viking receiver to get 1000 yards receiving in the last 5 years thanks to Brett Favre.
    Unless Favre is a viking next season, Rice will never get a 1000 yards ever again.
    Hopefully he can come back for week 13.

  15. lebowski says: Aug 24, 2010 10:34 AM

    Drew Rosenhaus needs to be banished.

  16. jamesz23 says: Aug 24, 2010 10:38 AM

    I’m not a Vikings fan but how can you have any respect for Sidney Rice after this?

  17. kkevster says: Aug 24, 2010 10:39 AM

    Wow, talk about a team that could have used T.O., but didn’t have the guts to sign him.

  18. RC IV says: Aug 24, 2010 10:44 AM

    Joe Webb just found himself a spot on the roster.

  19. Nick says: Aug 24, 2010 10:45 AM

    @Hauschild
    No, Percy won’t. Not when last year’s biggest threat is gone. Focus goes entirely on him. This is huge.
    Brent is probably trying to escape so he can return to his lawn mower as we speak.

  20. robert ethen says: Aug 24, 2010 10:47 AM

    A year ago if Sidney Rice had surgery no one would even have noticed. Hardly the end of the world.

  21. paladisiac says: Aug 24, 2010 10:47 AM

    If it’s a worse injury than advertised, then they should go after Vincent Jackson to appease Lord Favre.

  22. GB3Pack4 says: Aug 24, 2010 10:51 AM

    I don’t understand the sentence, “The Vikings have every right to be upset with how this was handled.”
    Weren’t the Vikings one-half of the equation (honest question, not a jab)? I’d have thought that since the team knew about the injury, about the recommendations of the three different doctors, and about Sidney’s contracts issues, since at least July, significant initiative on the team’s part might have resolved the situation before it exploded like this.
    Now it seems the team’s season, the expensive QB’s season (which depends just as much on having good receivers as on rushing protection), and Sidney’s season, are all being squished in the same vise.

  23. Gregjennings85 says: Aug 24, 2010 11:03 AM

    Gravy:
    You were right, Rice is running normally and we Packer fans were blowing this out of proportion.
    No wait, you were DEAD WRONG, as usual.

  24. BrentFavre says: Aug 24, 2010 11:07 AM

    hauschild,
    It is truly sad that your Favre allegiance has led you to actually root for the Vikings. Wow.

  25. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Aug 24, 2010 11:12 AM

    i really don’t think it’s that big of a deal, as long as he’s back in time for the playoffs. we won the division in 08 when rice was hurting all year, we didn’t have harvin and gus and tj were qb’s. the vikes have a much better team than in 08 and are pretty much a lock to win the division so if rice comes back by wk. 8 or whatever it’s all good.
    also berrian is healthy this year and harvin should have a huge year, plus with 2 1st year starters on the 0-line having a year of experience we should be more of a running team this year anyway.
    what’s alot more worrisome than rice missing some games is the news about cullen jenkins being out now in addition to clay matthews, they were the only decent lb’ers the pckers had and in addition to all the injuries to the db’s, it’s hard to be optimistic about things in g.b. however, i will look for a silver lining for the pckers and report back if i’m able to find one.

  26. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Aug 24, 2010 11:16 AM

    Gregjennings85, when i said “rice was running normally” that was just code for “basically all of the pckers db’s and lb’s are out or hurting but don’t be overly alarmed cause gb’s offense looks okay”. i thought that would have been clear to you.

  27. The Doctor says: Aug 24, 2010 11:18 AM

    Berrian, Harvin, and Walker are not a bad trio. Also need to consider moving Webb back to WR. He needs to be on the field. If anyone saw him the other night, he moves at a higher speed than anyone else.

  28. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Aug 24, 2010 11:21 AM

    “hauschild,
    It is truly sad that your Favre allegiance has led you to actually root for the Vikings.”
    the whole world either openly or secretly has a favre alliegance and roots for the vikings so hauschild is just being a good hausfan.

  29. robert ethen says: Aug 24, 2010 11:32 AM

    Vikings should have known this would be a problem from their first scouting reports. Now Sydney has to have surgery to correct his “loose hips”.

  30. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Aug 24, 2010 11:38 AM

    pcker fans are always coming up to me since i released my 2010 nfc north predictions and saying, “gravy, you’re picking the vikes to win the division at 11-5 and the pckers to finish 3rd at 8-8. considering that the vikes didn’t lose a game in the dome all year last year, where do you see 5 losses for them? and considering the pckers have lost starters from last year like kampman and jolly and have other starters for the year by injury like bigby so they’re forced to start a 3rd round rookie at safety who looks really slow in reacting so far and have been decimated by injury at lb, how do you see what was already a porous defense allowing the pckers to win even 5 games?”
    and i always answer, excellent questions. but i have to go now.

  31. skimbell says: Aug 24, 2010 11:41 AM

    “superb owl says:
    August 24, 2010 10:20 AM
    chilly might be smarter than he looks…”

    He’d almost have to be.

  32. bruce campbells chainsaw hand says: Aug 24, 2010 11:45 AM

    Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat –
    I thought it was clear to you that nobody cares what you think because you’re an uninformed moron. Then again, I do enjoy reading your ridiculous posts since they seem to be written by a child trapped in a man’s body. Maybe you should see someone about that.

  33. jamesz23 says: Aug 24, 2010 11:53 AM

    I still think the Vikings make the playoffs but they could lose a few extra games because of this which means no home field advantage throughout the playoffs.
    Gravy doesn’t bother me the way FOF does, I’ve never seen someone so obsessed over a pro athlete, highly disturbing.

  34. RC IV says: Aug 24, 2010 11:53 AM

    Minnesconsin:
    Gravy was referring to this:
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/22/cullen-jenkins-tries-his-hand-at-linebacker/
    In other news, not everyone plays every preseason game, look to your own roster fot that.
    You are making fun of him and you are in a class all yourself for the particulary inane posts you make.
    I hope you are laughing long and hard when gayRod goes down in a heap this year.

  35. SpartaChris says: Aug 24, 2010 11:56 AM

    I’m looking forward to pointing out all the injuries the Packers had the last two years if Vikings fans start to make excuses..

  36. Hauschild says: Aug 24, 2010 12:00 PM

    Murgen,
    Seems to me you’re not terribly perceptive. Harvin had a great year last season, while going thru the same crap with migraines as he is this year.
    As a result, why would a reasonably intelligent person expect anything less? Simply because Harvin plays for a team you don’t care for, that is grounds – in your mind (and I use that term somewhat loosely) – for Harvin to have an unproductive year?
    That simply makes no sense. What does make sense is for Berrian’s and Harvin’s numbers to rise dramatically. Will it lead to Vikings’ victories? I can’t say, and that had nothing to do with my point that Harvin is going to have a monster year.
    I think if you reason thru your argument, you will see how correct I am.

  37. jimmySee says: Aug 24, 2010 12:03 PM

    Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat truly reminds me of the driver racing toward the cliff at 100 miles per hour with absolute faith his car will fly.
    Sometimes that light at the end of the tunnel IS another train.
    This season should certainly be entertaining!

  38. Ambrose says: Aug 24, 2010 12:17 PM

    RC IV says:
    August 24, 2010 11:53 AM
    I hope you are laughing long and hard when gayRod goes down in a heap this year.
    ———————————————–
    Who?

  39. Charles Wood says: Aug 24, 2010 12:17 PM

    Gravy… I think it’s great that you have Cullen Jenkins tabbed as a linebacker with a significant injury. You clearly know your football.
    Newsflash… The man is a DE with a strained calf muscle. He’ll be back in a week.

  40. David.walden05 says: Aug 24, 2010 12:18 PM

    There should be a rule that you have to at least have your grade 5 english before your aloud to talk smack on the internet.

  41. minnesconsin_ad says: Aug 24, 2010 12:29 PM

    RCIV:
    So you’re using a post from 6/22 as evidence that Cullen Jenkins is a linebacker and Gravy knows his football?
    Gravy refers to Jenkins of 1 of only 2 decent LB’s on the team, (nevermind Barnett or Hawk…) implying LB is his primary position and that he’s proven himself to be valuable at that position. The very article you link to includes the line “Jenkins’ primary role will surely remain on the defensive line where he’s one of the more underrated players in football.”
    Cullen Jenkins is a DE/DT.
    Gravy, on the other hand, is just a buffoon. And you’re not much better, as evidenced by the fact that the remainder of your post attempts to point out my folly, clearly missing the sarcasm dripping from my comments about Pat Williams. Not to mention the fact that you resort to using the word “gay” as an insult? Come on, mannn!

  42. minnesconsin_ad says: Aug 24, 2010 12:31 PM

    David.walden05 says:
    August 24, 2010 12:18 PM
    There should be a rule that you have to at least have your grade 5 english before your aloud to talk smack on the internet.
    ———-
    please tell me this was supposed to be ironic? #fail

  43. shaggytoodle says: Aug 24, 2010 12:36 PM

    Have no fear Minny, J-Walk will come to save the day….

  44. Leto_II says: Aug 24, 2010 12:37 PM

    This is why I’m glad my fantasy league drafts as late as possible.
    Fools who already drafted are stuck with Rice.

  45. Simp McGhee says: Aug 24, 2010 12:39 PM

    Gravy is far and away the biggets jackass poster on this whole website. I used to think Pervy was bad… at least he’s comical. Gravy is just plain dumb. The guy is so caught up with the Packers that he can’t go one comment without mentioning GB like he’s got some giant inferiority complex.

  46. packrulzm says: Aug 24, 2010 12:45 PM

    Let me get this straight. No Rice, Chester Taylor is playing for the Bears and Percy Harvin is questionable for the start of the season. So your management goes out and signs a head case like Walker? Wow. Good luck with that. It’s been a pretty rough off season for Vikings fans (Even though a lot of them will not admit it). Sounds like the Vikings are poised to keep up with the lions for the cellar in the North.

  47. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Aug 24, 2010 12:46 PM

    charles, i wish i could share your optimism about jenkins being back in a week, but that’s very, very unlikely. that calf muscle is hanging together by a thread and the injury left him lying on the field shrieking “for the love of god, somebody help me!!!!!!!!” like rc said, with all the pckers lb’s either untalented or injured or both (hawk), moving jenkins from the d-line might have been the only hope to at least field 4 lb’s during games although with jolly suspended for the year, the d-line doesn’t look much better and don’t even get me started on the state of the pckers 2ndary.
    i’m only trying to be realistic and help you people avoid being devastated after another post-favre season with no division title and no playoff wins.
    packer fans are always coming up to me and asking, “gravy, obviously this season is shaping up like another washout; since the pckers are destined to finish behind the vikes once again and extend the thompson era to 6 years with only 1 playoff win, is there really any point in the team even playing this year? have they even earned the privilege of trying to compete considering the sorrowful state of this franchise??”
    and i always answer, “excellent questions, but yes, the pckers have just as much right to go out there and at least try as any other team in the league. and as long as you keep your expectations low and avert your eyes whenever your defense or special teams are on the field, there’s no reason you can’t watch the games and emerge emotionally unscathed, relatively.”

  48. Five Times the Royalty says: Aug 24, 2010 12:50 PM

    Says the guy who misspelled “allowed.”

  49. Ilovefoolsball says: Aug 24, 2010 12:53 PM

    wow people who have him as a keeper in fantasy leagues just got screwed.

  50. SSgtLMJ says: Aug 24, 2010 12:56 PM

    Ahh yes, it is sweet to see the Viqueen goons witness the demise of a season right in front of them before the season even starts…classic! Doom, doom…DOME!

  51. RC IV says: Aug 24, 2010 12:58 PM

    minnesconsin_ad says:
    August 24, 2010 12:29 PM
    RCIV:
    So you’re using a post from 6/22 as evidence that Cullen Jenkins is a linebacker and Gravy knows his football?
    Gravy refers to Jenkins of 1 of only 2 decent LB’s on the team, (nevermind Barnett or Hawk…) implying LB is his primary position and that he’s proven himself to be valuable at that position. The very article you link to includes the line “Jenkins’ primary role will surely remain on the defensive line where he’s one of the more underrated players in football.”
    Cullen Jenkins is a DE/DT.
    Gravy, on the other hand, is just a buffoon. And you’re not much better, as evidenced by the fact that the remainder of your post attempts to point out my folly, clearly missing the sarcasm dripping from my comments about Pat Williams. Not to mention the fact that you resort to using the word “gay” as an insult? Come on, mannn!
    ==========================
    That you fail to see that Gravy is baiting you and all of the other Packer simpletons, makes this all the more humorous. you al fall for it hook line and sinker.
    I defended him because he makes me laugh and i laugh harder at you fools who waste your time “debating” with him.
    Ambrose:
    GayRod is the homosexual QB of the Green Bay Packers. You know it, i know it, we all know it.
    Go change your depends, the Golden girls are on in 5 minutes.

  52. Love_Boat_Scandal says: Aug 24, 2010 1:12 PM

    # Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: August 24, 2010 11:12 AM
    what’s alot more worrisome than rice missing some games is the news about cullen jenkins being out now in addition to clay matthews, they were the only decent lb’ers the pckers had
    Excellent analysis Gravy. Especially the part about Cullen Jenkins being a linebacker.
    But no, no. By all means, keep posting. You are quite representative of the average Viking “fan”.

  53. SSgtLMJ says: Aug 24, 2010 1:13 PM

    RCIV…you are a grade A buffoon. You know it, I know it, we all know it…your sorry ass queens will get swept by the lions this season…watch, wait and see. Doom, doom…Dome. The bloodbath is just 16 days away!

  54. shaggytoodle says: Aug 24, 2010 1:18 PM

    Gravy is so delisional that, he has imaginary Packer fans asking him questions. Someone should piss test that guy.

  55. Supersuckers says: Aug 24, 2010 1:47 PM

    RC IV says:
    August 24, 2010 11:53 AM
    Minnesconsin:
    Gravy was referring to this:
    http://profootballta lk.nbcsports.com/201 0/06/22/cullen-jenki ns-tries-his-hand-at -linebacker/
    In other news, not everyone plays every preseason game, look to your own roster fot that.
    You are making fun of him and you are in a class all yourself for the particulary inane posts you make.
    I hope you are laughing long and hard when gayRod goes down in a heap this year.
    ——————-
    Who is Gayrod?

  56. Ambrose says: Aug 24, 2010 1:48 PM

    RC IV says:
    August 24, 2010 12:58 PM
    GayRod is the homosexual QB of the Green Bay Packers……..i know it.
    Humm. You got me there. If you know firsthand, it’s hard to argue.

  57. Calistin says: Aug 24, 2010 1:48 PM

    Get a clue Vikings fans.
    Berrian is god awful and will have a pulled hamstring by week 3. Take a look at his stats the last 4-5 years. He isn’t getting any better.
    Your only hope at WR is Harvin, and that doesn’t appear to be working out so well.
    Walker is finished.

  58. Ambrose says: Aug 24, 2010 1:52 PM

    RC IV says:
    August 24, 2010 12:58 PM
    …… the Golden girls are on in 5 minutes.
    ——————————————–
    …says the daytime couch-dweller as Beavis and Butthead comes to a conclusion.

  59. purpleguy says: Aug 24, 2010 1:53 PM

    It’s not looking good at all for the Vikes offensively this year, but if they win under these circumstances it will be pretty frigging sweet. As usual, a 3 to 1 ratio of cheesers on a Viking post — not unlike the 2 to 1 ratio of Viking fans on Packer posts. The Strib and PFT once again have confirmed this Rice issue has it’s roots in the influence of his dumbass agent Rosenhaus. Instead of early surgery and showing he’s healthy for the 2010 year and entitled to a big contract, now he’s going to have to try and come back after a long layoff just to prove he’s worthy of anything — and who’s going to sign him to a big deal next year after only one injury-free season and with a 2011 lockout looming?

  60. minnesconsin_ad says: Aug 24, 2010 1:55 PM

    my guess is that the imaginary packer fan Gravy is talking with is probably Carl Gerbschmidt of KFAN infamy. So…perhaps Gravy is Barreiro or JG? ok, unlikely.
    RC: I really just started selectively paying attention to the comments section within the past few months, so wasn’t too familiar with Gravy’s M.O. It’s now clear that nobody I(not even a delusional vikings fan) could possibly be stupid enough to believe the drivel he spews.

  61. Raw Deal says: Aug 24, 2010 1:55 PM

    Wow! It’s not bad enough trying to pimp the angle of ‘I’m injured til I get paid’, but the whoring of the ‘I’m gonna have surgery and not play most of the season for more money even though I know players get paid for past performances, and that speculation of how any and all surgery/ies may and will effect me in the future and would only serve to lower any new contract that I am supposedly doing this all for’ Theory is just stupid. And trust me, I hate to use that word.

  62. Calistin says: Aug 24, 2010 1:57 PM

    There must be a huge contingent of Packer Fans outside Gravy’s basement, or in his head….
    So your plan is to rip on the Packers strained muscles and ignore a season ending/delaying injury to our leading WR and career threatening condition to the other? Brilliant.
    Hawk, CM3, both will be back this week. Unlike the Vikings, our team has a little thing called depth. Must be easy to critize our #4 and 5 corner and back up Lb’s. Lulz.
    The last gasp of a desperate loser.

  63. Beer Cheese Soup says: Aug 24, 2010 2:08 PM

    Simp McGhee says:
    The guy [Gravy] is so caught up with the Packers that he can’t go one comment without mentioning GB like he’s got some giant inferiority complex.
    _______________
    So… you’re saying he’s a typical Viking fan then?

  64. NOLArules says: Aug 24, 2010 2:11 PM

    From a Saints Fan, this is a garbage move by Rice whether it is over money or not. If it is truly over his money, he is not going to be well received by his team upon his return. Total bush league move in my view

  65. Someone says: Aug 24, 2010 2:19 PM

    Who the hell gloats over a players injury and takes pride that it will make it easier to beat them?
    losers…

  66. shaggytoodle says: Aug 24, 2010 2:19 PM

    Thats funny Vikings fans spent 2 months wondering who would be the starting QB now two weeks from the season opener they get to wonder whos going to be thier starting WRs.
    After this season is a tragedy they can start wondering who will be the head coach.

  67. Supersuckers says: Aug 24, 2010 2:29 PM

    shaggytoodle says:
    August 24, 2010 2:19 PM
    Thats funny Vikings fans spent 2 months wondering who would be the starting QB now two weeks from the season opener they get to wonder whos going to be thier starting WRs.
    After this season is a tragedy they can start wondering who will be the head coach
    —————
    Very well said. Very….

  68. Scaevola says: Aug 24, 2010 2:50 PM

    # Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: August 24, 2010 12:46 PM
    packer fans are always coming up to me and asking, “gravy, obviously this season is shaping up like another washout; since the pckers are destined to finish behind the vikes once again and extend the thompson era to 6 years with only 1 playoff win, is there really any point in the team even playing this year? have they even earned the privilege of trying to compete considering the sorrowful state of this franchise??”
    **************
    It looks like the next time I’m over pumping gravy into your mother, I’ll have to stop down in the basement and loan you some books about football.

  69. DuluthFan says: Aug 24, 2010 2:55 PM

    Vee…I am a Vikings Fan…have been for 35 years I suppose…and I know there are a lot of Vikings fans on this site that sound like morons and excuse-makers and the like, but dude, ALL teams have these types of fans.
    I am just responding to you to tell you this so that you can hopefully stop labeling all fans of any team as “idiot fans” based on a vast minority of idiots.
    My favorite team lost to New Orleans because of fumbles, penalties and one very specific inopportune INT. There is a very strong fan base in Minnesota, and the VAST majority understand these causes to be accurate. Do I think the Vikings were a better team that day? No. Despite their advantage in yards, for example, they were not the better team in that game because one must consider ALL aspects of the game. I think the Vikings were the better team, for the first half up until Peterson coughed up the ball before half-time.
    Truth be told, I could not watch that game again…not now, and I don’t thing ever. It will hurt for a long time (see 1998 NFCCG vs Atlanta).
    So now that I get my initial point across, it would be nice for the few “idiot fans” of the New Orleans Saints to stop pretending like they do not know failure/missed opportunity over their team’s history. I call they the Who Dat? crew that finds it necessary to validate their pathetic lives by bashing the team THEY BEAT. The win should stand on it’s own…but not for these losers.
    And remember…EVERY team has them.
    So to you, I say, “Cheers! Here is to a fun start of the 2010 season on Aug 9th. May the best team win and may it be a good game”.

  70. Murgen says: Aug 24, 2010 3:22 PM

    Simp McGhee says:
    The guy [Gravy] is so caught up with the Packers that he can’t go one comment without mentioning GB like he’s got some giant inferiority complex.
    ————————————
    You can’t blame the poor fools.
    NFL Championships:
    GB – 12
    Vikings – 0 (even with them scavenging the Packer’s trashcan yearly)

  71. Supersuckers says: Aug 24, 2010 3:31 PM

    Never heard of or seen a Gayrod. Maybe a Gaylord I could dig up. Still don’t know who you are talking about. Minnesota starting wideout vs new Orleans…
    Berrian
    Lewis
    ??????

  72. Oakley Freak says: Aug 24, 2010 3:41 PM

    @wope, they may beat the Vikes, but they won’t steamroll them, so no excuses here. Brees is hurt in the first game Saints season shot, Madden says Hi!!!

  73. SSgtLMJ says: Aug 24, 2010 3:53 PM

    Doesn’t matter who their wide outs are…queens don’t stand a chance in the dome! Favre will throw the ball to Tracy Porter a few times and Peterson (butterfingers) will put the ball on the ground a few times…Saints 42-Queens 6. Doom, doom…DOME!!

  74. SSgtLMJ says: Aug 24, 2010 3:59 PM

    Uhh, I think the Saints will absolutely steamroll the queens and I’ll bet a paycheck that Brees doesn’t even get touched! The dome is no place for queens…only champs! That other thing you goons call a dome is for queens…and the horn hat wearing tards.

  75. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Aug 24, 2010 4:00 PM

    you pckers fans get always get so excited and upset. all i’ve ever tried to do is protect you and spare you needless anguish by warning you about what’s coming from the pckers and the gay vampire, but you never listen and then you’re all “why didn’t you TELL us things were gonna work out this way!!!”
    you pcker fans should really be on your knees thanking god that you have vikes fans around to try to cushion the post-favre fall for you. yeah you should really be on your knees

  76. Supersuckers says: Aug 24, 2010 4:11 PM

    ManGravy says
    “why didn’t you TELL us things were gonna work out this way!!!”
    —————–
    We told YOU how last year was going to end and its going to end the same way this year. Not in a NFC title game though

  77. rcunningham says: Aug 24, 2010 4:13 PM

    You are all now aware that Berrian almost had 1,000 yards receiving with Gus Frerotte and T-Jack throwing to him. Yeah.
    Also
    # Vee says: August 24, 2010 10:17 AM
    Never want to see harm come to anybody – especailly great athletes injured in their prime. But this will be devesatating to the Vikings. Just another piece of bad news that will ultimately lead to a 6-10, maybe 7-9 season.
    Then, will the Vikings fan base, FINALLY shut the hell up? Probably not because they’ll think up more excuses – like the bizzare NFL conspiracy theory that led them to turn the ball over FIVE times in the NFCCG last year.
    Logic, facts, truth, reality, etc., don’t seem to mean much to the Vikings fans. They live in some fantasy world where their mean spirited and arrogant nature is in full view. The chickens are finally coming home to roost, and the rest of the NFL fanbase will enjoy watching this team implode.
    This is just pure stupidity. The Vikings went 10-6 when Rice was injured all year in 08.
    And stop generalizing our entire fanbase. You come off as more arrogant than anybody. No one is making excuses for the fumbles, a lot of us are just wondering why there was a phantom PI call and a few other questionable calls in OT. You can’t change it now so it’s not worth talking about either way.
    Get over yourself.

  78. minnesconsin_ad says: Aug 24, 2010 4:20 PM

    duluth fan: that’s pretty much spot on. The “idiots” are just always louder than the reasonable fans.

  79. RC IV says: Aug 24, 2010 4:26 PM

    Sarge: Will you be watching the game on the TV you looted during katrina?
    Ambrose: why do you even ponder posting? Murder she wrote is on!
    Super: GayRod is your homosexual QB for the Packers, you know, the one with the male room mate that “gets him”?
    Of Course when your GM also lives an alternative lifestyle, it isn’t any wonder GayRod was comfortable coming out of the closet.
    Berrian and Lewis? Not bad, but Harvin will be playing.
    I had a nice pic all set up for you. But that ass goblin Florio wouldn’t let it post.

  80. Clay52isBEAST says: Aug 24, 2010 4:43 PM

    LMAO at these comments….Vikes fans know they are in trouble with Rice on the shelf for half the season…I also find it quite hilarious that you queenies say Rodgers will go down with an injury..lol…yeah he has missed how many games? Can’t watch to see Rodgers torch that soft vikes pass coverage! All in all I hope for a competitive year for the NFC North…

  81. SSgtLMJ says: Aug 24, 2010 4:50 PM

    RCIV, you need to come up with a different line man…its getting as old as your gimpy ass qb. How about some classless comment about the oil spill or something, that’d be your speed. I’ll be watching the game from inside a tent in Kandahar, Afghanistan at 5 in the morning with a rifle I use to protect your dumb ass…you’re welcome!

  82. Clay52isBEAST says: Aug 24, 2010 4:51 PM

    Damn you vikes fans are so JEALOUS that we have Aaron Rodgers!!!! I am convinced more and more every Viking thread I read with vikes fans talking about him and calling him “gay” or “gayrod”….you queens fans are such mental midgets…

  83. SSgtLMJ says: Aug 24, 2010 5:22 PM

    Hey RCIV, just got done watching some awesome Viqueen fan reaction on you tube of Favre’s final pick in the NFCCG…awesome to relive that moment. Glad its thoroughly documented…what a bunch of whinny queens!

  84. Beer Cheese Soup says: Aug 24, 2010 5:33 PM

    RC IV says:
    GayRod is your homosexual QB for the Packers, you know, the one with the male room mate that “gets him”?
    Of Course when your GM also lives an alternative lifestyle, it isn’t any wonder GayRod was comfortable coming out of the closet.
    _____________________
    Oh dear.. Having a male roommate makes you gay now? I guess that means we all are then. I’m sure almost every man in the country has lived with another man at some point (except Pervy of course–he still lives with his single prostitute mother).
    Of course we all know Ted is gay, but we don’t care. It’s 2010 now people, even in Minnesota. That’s simply not a good enough reason to hate a dude anymore.
    I have a friend who went to Cal with Rodgers, and he swears he isn’t gay. I believe him, but even if he’s wrong, we don’t care about that either. Rodgers has shown he can perform at a high level on the field. What he does off the field is his own business.

  85. Vee says: Aug 24, 2010 5:42 PM

    To DuluthFan: You sir, seem level headed, good natured and realistic – apparently rare traits on Vikings posts.
    I used to be a Vikings fan,a dn a Bret Favre fan until I saw the disproportionate number of Vikings fans spew vitriolic hatred, including posts about wishing more Hurricanes and ecological disasters to befall their fellow Americans down in Louisiana – all because they couldn’t accept a self-inflicted defeat in the Superbowl. I was done with all things Vikings after that.
    But it’s good to see a long suffering hearty soul who continues to persevere with his team through thick & thin (something all Saints fans know about). And while it’s true that every team has jerks in their fanbase, most Saints fans are just ecstatic to have lived long enough to see last year come to pass. They only team they react poorly to is the Vikings fanbase because of all the bitter crap coming from them about last year’s game.
    So I say good luck to you, as one of the lone voices of reason crying in the wilderness (except in the opening game of the season!).

  86. Majik Bullet says: Aug 24, 2010 6:15 PM

    # Beer Cheese Soup says: August 24, 2010 2:08 PM
    Simp McGhee says:
    The guy [Gravy] is so caught up with the Packers that he can’t go one comment without mentioning GB like he’s got some giant inferiority complex.
    _______________
    So… you’re saying he’s a typical Viking fan then?
    ________________
    Says the Packer fan on the Viking post…

  87. scra22 says: Aug 24, 2010 6:23 PM

    DuluthFan says: August 24, 2010 2:55 PM:
    I call they the Who Dat? crew that finds it necessary to validate their pathetic lives by bashing the team THEY BEAT. The win should stand on it’s own…but not for these losers.
    ====
    DuluthFan, there are definitely idiot fans of every team.
    But I do have to point out that you don’t see Saints fans bashing the Colts or their fans… because the Colts fans have not complained for 7 MONTHS that they should have won the game and the Saints are dirty and the refs cheated. Your fellow fans have not let the win stand on its own… you could say they are trying to validate THEIR pathetic lives by convincing everyone that the Vikings were the better team.
    Honestly, I think it’s safe to say that Saints fans would be fine with the Vikings if it weren’t for the incessant complaining, whining, and all together bitterness your fellow fans have displayed on this site and others since the NFC CG. It has only grown an extreme hatred among the Saints fans of the Vikings franchise. We pretty much hated the Falcons and Cowboys more than anyone — now because of the way Vikings fans have acted, the Vikings have joined that group.

  88. Pervy *Harvin says: Aug 24, 2010 7:08 PM

    Beer Cheese Soup says: I’m sure almost every man in the country has lived with another man at some point (except Pervy of course–he still lives with his single prostitute mother).
    ————————————————–
    …says the biggest fag on PFT. Your just mad that I wouldn’t marry your Mommy. Sorry kid, I just couldn’t keep up with her demands to shit on her face…f@cking weird…

  89. RC IV says: Aug 24, 2010 7:55 PM

    SSgtLMJ says:
    August 24, 2010 4:50 PM
    RCIV, you need to come up with a different line man…its getting as old as your gimpy ass qb. How about some classless comment about the oil spill or something, that’d be your speed. I’ll be watching the game from inside a tent in Kandahar, Afghanistan at 5 in the morning with a rifle I use to protect your dumb ass…you’re welcome!
    ==============================
    Says the guy with bloodbath and dum dum dome on every post!
    It’s nice to know you are “protecting my dumb ass” by being on a computer all day spouting inane garbage.
    I’m gald we are paying you a salary to protect our country by being on a sports website all day!
    Jerkoff.

  90. Chameleon says: Aug 24, 2010 8:12 PM

    RC Gay IV
    Man you are joining Gravy and Perv in a contest for repetitive gutter content; cutting edge stuff I tell you what. Of course it makes it easy when you don’t have a team you can discuss in any positive manner.
    Why don’t you take a little break and think of some new material. Come back after you learn how to tie your Adidas with the Velcro shoe laces. That should give the rest of us plenty of time to discuss the Vikings crash and burn act?
    I do hope Rice has a speedy recovery. As stupid or greedy as he is I hope he’s with the team for our second game against your Vikings. We want to beat you at your best which is just above mediocre.
    Where is Contra, I use him to spell check my posts…..

  91. Majik Bullet says: Aug 24, 2010 8:26 PM

    Beer Cheese Soup says: August 24, 2010 5:33 PM
    Rodgers has shown he can perform at a high level on the field. What he does off the field is his own business.
    ______________________
    This seems a bit hypocritical coming from a guy who bashes Favre whenever given the chance for, wait for it, the things he does OFF THE FIELD.
    As for guys living with other guys, yeah it happens. To kids going to college who would rather spend their cash on booze instead of rent, and typically not making a 7 figure salary. If you’re in your late 20’s and well off financially, the proper term for a live in male companion is not roommate, it’s partner. Not that there’s anything wrong with that…

  92. Pervy *Harvin says: Aug 24, 2010 9:02 PM

    Chameleon says: I can’t play PFT anymore…I’m too busy blowing Tiny Thompson….

  93. purlpefanminn says: Aug 24, 2010 9:25 PM

    you all have to remember it was when a couple of vikings players poured water on Howard Cosells head,and his toup got messed up.After that the league hated the Vikings.Give me a break all the bad calls. I know everyone get’s them, but be real.Cheap shots,WELL,bounties.Talk of that before the season started!!!!!!!!!!!Aints!!Rice bad move!!Percy is what it is.We will see what happens!! How unbelieved,The Saints win the Superbowl just when they needed something to bring them up!!!Who out played who!!!

  94. RC IV says: Aug 24, 2010 11:17 PM

    Chameleon:
    Did you pass the Algebra part of your GED testing yet?
    I hope the grandkids are in bed, and not with you.
    Adidas with velcro laces…really?!
    Your posts are gayer than TT’s boyfreind and inane to boot, maybe you should switch back to your multi persona?
    Good luck on your vocabulary test!

  95. SSgtLMJ says: Aug 24, 2010 11:48 PM

    RCIV…Dats my lil Viqueen! Now you’re talkin’…you are paying my salary and bonuses while I’m deployed huh…this makes our feud even better! Think about it…you’re paying me to make you look like more of a fool than my Saints did 7 months ago. Dude, bottom line is…you’re organization is pathetic. Here’s a clue (cause you need one) when the media spends all of its time on your team…that’s not a good thing. Chances are, you’re retarded!

  96. Beer Cheese Soup says: Aug 25, 2010 12:06 AM

    Majik Bullet says:
    Says the Packer fan on the Viking post…
    _________________
    Well, you have me there.
    I can’t help that this site is run by a hopeless Viking apologist and there are seldom, if ever, any updates on the Pack in the offseason. I still need my PFT fix. I just have to go to Viking and Steeler threads to get it now.
    Of course, it’s hard to blame Florio for the lack of updates though. It’s not like the Packers do ANYTHING at all in the offseason these days. Ted isn’t even getting back from his annual trip to San Francisco for another week and a half.
    Majik Bullet says:
    This seems a bit hypocritical coming from a guy who bashes Favre whenever given the chance for, wait for it, the things he does OFF THE FIELD.
    _______________
    Now you’ve mistaken me for another Packer fan. Probably any of about twelve others actually.
    I could be mistaken, but I’m almost positive I haven’t ever bashed Favre for his off-field activities. I even stayed out of the sexting allegation discussion, because, “wait for it”, THAT’S HIS BUSINESS.
    I certainly have taken my shots at him for his seemingly annual playoff meltdowns, but I did that while he was still on my team too, so not much has really changed.
    I try not to care about the personal lives of any player. I’ve even defended Harvin, Roethlisberger, McKinnie and others about such things on here. Nothing I do ends up in the news when I go out and have a few. It shouldn’t be any different.
    If you want to falsely accuse me of something, check your facts next time, haha.

  97. Chameleon says: Aug 25, 2010 7:37 AM

    RC Gay boy IV you’re so stupid you still haven’t figured out who I am…I know you though! Could you be denser? Your lame posts exceed the stupidity you exhibit every day. What is this, your 3rd year in 4th grade? Good luck! Maybe this is your year!
    I can’t find hardly a reference to Vikings in many of your posts maybe some useless statistics here and there but nothing more. Are you even a fan or just looking for your menial 15 seconds of fame? Now go play in the street with Perv.

  98. Majik Bullet says: Aug 25, 2010 8:17 AM

    Really Beer Cheese, you’ve never once mentioned your disdain for Favre’s indecision regarding retirement? I seem to recall you doing so, not just once, even going so far as to compliment your Uncle Ted, saying as how getting rid of him because of it was the only good thing Ted has done.

  99. RC IV says: Aug 25, 2010 8:51 AM

    SSgtLMJ says:
    August 24, 2010 11:48 PM
    RCIV…Dats my lil Viqueen! Now you’re talkin’…you are paying my salary and bonuses while I’m deployed
    ==========================
    With any luck, you won’t make it back.

  100. Supersuckers says: Aug 25, 2010 9:30 AM

    Beer Cheese says,
    “Of course, it’s hard to blame Florio for the lack of updates though. It’s not like the Packers do ANYTHING at all in the offseason these days.”
    ———————–
    Posting stories of weight training, film study, and dedicated hard work during the offseason to improve from within generally makes for boring stories. You have no idea how much work the Packers put in in the “offseason”

  101. RC IV says: Aug 25, 2010 10:15 AM

    Every team “improves from within”.
    That is the dumbest thing I’ve hear since the whole “pad level” thing.
    You eat up everything that comes out of GB like it’s the stone cold truth.
    Why would TT do anything when 99% of you fans are satisfied with the status quo of failing to make the playoffs or failing in the WC game?
    You all want to talk about Rice and Harvin being injured, yet you have a laundry list of players that are having problems.
    Your asinine answer is “depth” like the Packers are the only team that has it.
    But, I digress. I’m sure the packers are the only ones that weight train and study film and do dedicated hard work in the offseason.
    Do you even believe the tripe you type?
    Now, do your cute little thing where you twist the words in a sentence because you have zero arguement.

  102. Majik Bullet says: Aug 25, 2010 10:20 AM

    Supersuckers says: August 25, 2010 9:30 AM
    Posting stories of weight training, film study, and dedicated hard work during the offseason to improve from within generally makes for boring stories. You have no idea how much work the Packers put in in the “offseason”
    _______________
    You do know that every other team in the NFL does all of those same things, right? So you openly recognize that GB is putting forth the absolute minimum amount of effort to improve their team.

  103. HighwayKiller says: Aug 25, 2010 10:39 AM

    RC IV says:
    August 25, 2010 8:51 AM
    SSgtLMJ says:
    August 24, 2010 11:48 PM
    RCIV…Dats my lil Viqueen! Now you’re talkin’…you are paying my salary and bonuses while I’m deployed
    ==================== ======
    With any luck, you won’t make it back.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Wow. Words cannot describe this statement. I guess you will get your mom to drive you to the airport to spit on soldiers returning home. All over a little trash talk on the internet. I hope it was worth it.
    Stay classy Minnesota.

  104. SSgtLMJ says: Aug 25, 2010 10:58 AM

    Thanks for having my back Highway but that’s the kind of banter we expect from bitter Viqueen fans. RCIV is the poster boy for classless comments. There’s no stopping him…he has dysentery of the mouth!

  105. Supersuckers says: Aug 25, 2010 11:01 AM

    Majik Bullet says:
    August 25, 2010 10:20 AM
    Supersuckers says: August 25, 2010 9:30 AM
    Posting stories of weight training, film study, and dedicated hard work during the offseason to improve from within generally makes for boring stories. You have no idea how much work the Packers put in in the “offseason”
    _______________
    You do know that every other team in the NFL does all of those same things, right? So you openly recognize that GB is putting forth the absolute minimum amount of effort to improve their team.
    —————–
    No other team in the league has an offseason program like McCarthy’s in Green Bay. This comes from the mouth of your lord and saviour. Brett Favre.

  106. Supersuckers says: Aug 25, 2010 11:02 AM

    “That is the dumbest thing I’ve hear since the whole “pad level” thing.”
    ————–
    Curious, do you know what NFL coaches are referring to when they use the term pad level?

  107. RC IV says: Aug 25, 2010 11:06 AM

    HighwayKiller says:
    August 25, 2010 10:39 AM
    RC IV says:
    August 25, 2010 8:51 AM
    SSgtLMJ says:
    August 24, 2010 11:48 PM
    RCIV…Dats my lil Viqueen! Now you’re talkin’…you are paying my salary and bonuses while I’m deployed
    ==================== ======
    With any luck, you won’t make it back.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Wow. Words cannot describe this statement. I guess you will get your mom to drive you to the airport to spit on soldiers returning home. All over a little trash talk on the internet. I hope it was worth it.
    Stay classy Minnesota.
    ===============================
    My stepfather was in Afganistan. I know for a fact he did not have time to get on a sports site and talk trash. i wouldn’t spit on a soldier.
    This turd is the one that brought up that i should “thank him” for ” protecting my ass” with his “rifle”. I’m willing to bet this turd has never stepped on foreign soil.
    He’s on here constantly, The Army would not put up with him doing the the things he’s doing.
    He’s a wannabe, and if he ever has to go over there, he will be filling his pants.
    That being said, I was a bit over the line, i don’t wish death on anyone. How do you feel about a wounding?

  108. Majik Bullet says: Aug 25, 2010 11:28 AM

    Super says:
    No other team in the league has an offseason program like McCarthy’s in Green Bay. This comes from the mouth of your lord and saviour. Brett Favre.
    ___________________
    Any proof of this? Or just another made up “fact” from the mind of Super, geared at backing yet another idiotic statement.
    Even if it is true, which it’s not, Favre would be judging this based on, at a maximum, 3 of 32 teams’ programs he has been involved in. Besides, we all know how Favre values camp, so he’s not really an authority on the matter.
    So, like I said, you openly admit GB is doing the absolute minimum to improve their team.

  109. SSgtLMJ says: Aug 25, 2010 11:29 AM

    You see RCIV…we get what’s called ‘morale’ time here. Morale time is typically spent doing whatever it is that get’s your mind off of the fact that you’re in Afghanistan. Baiting you is my new past time I suppose…you’re an easy target. I work 12-14 hours a day, 7 days a week and I have been for 7 months now…and counting. Your day, is my night…I work during the day. You are clearly bush league just like you’re pathetic football organization. Funny thing is, you don’t mind showing your ignorance and classlessness to everyone on this site…you’re a tool!

  110. Supersuckers says: Aug 25, 2010 12:07 PM

    “So, like I said, you openly admit GB is doing the absolute minimum to improve their team.”
    —————
    He has those teams plus all of his contacts to reference Majik. They are doing everything possible to improve from within each and every year. The only tried and true method of sustained (years) championship runs.

  111. BrentFavre says: Aug 25, 2010 12:54 PM

    Stick a fork in the Vikings, they’re done.

  112. RC IV says: Aug 25, 2010 1:11 PM

    Super:
    if that’s what you want to believe, go right ahead.
    I won’t tell you that you are an idiot, because that is self evident.
    Mccarthy uses this as an inside joke, and you know it.
    Until you looked that little IowaST. nugget up, I’m sure you thought pad level is where your feminine napkin was riding.

  113. Pervy *Harvin says: Aug 25, 2010 1:30 PM

    SSgtLMJ – As a former Army Ranger I think you are wasting your time on here. Go do something productive kid and you just might live through a real fire fight! Oh yah, your team sucks ass desk jockey…

  114. Majik Bullet says: Aug 25, 2010 1:36 PM

    Super says:
    He has those teams plus all of his contacts to reference Majik. They are doing everything possible to improve from within each and every year. The only tried and true method of sustained (years) championship runs.
    ________________
    Again, provide proof, or this is just another Super lie. And every other NFL franchise does everything possible to improve from within. There comes a point, such as when you get smoked twice by your division rival, and give up 51 points in a playoff game, where you need to look for resources outside the organization.
    As for sustained championship runs, they are a thing of the past. But of the teams who have multiple rings in the free agency era, let’s have a look. The Denver Broncos won 2 in a row, led by John Elway, who they traded for. Rod Smith, Gary Zimmerman, Neil Smith. All Pro Bowlers acquired via FA, not to mention their other 10 starters not drafted by Denver.
    Or the Pats. Mike Vrabel, Antowain Smith (1100 yards and 13 TD’s), and 10 other starters picked up via free agency on the 1st SB winner, which they then added Pro Bowlers like Corey Dillon and Rodney Harrison again, via free agency.
    Or even your own Packers, who went to 2 in a row. I don’t recall them drafting Brett Favre, Reggie White, Desmond Howard, or Sean Jones.
    Now it’s your turn. Name me one team who has, in the free agency era, built their team up from within and gone on multiple championship runs.

  115. Supersuckers says: Aug 25, 2010 2:09 PM

    Majik you are claiming Thompson doesnt use any other tools to build? 23 or 24 percent of their normal 45 man game roster were players acquired by other means then the draft!!!! Long live Ted Thompson! The Steady One who had the balls to stand up to Favre. In the end it will be Ted that has the last laugh! BOOK IT PLANT FELLA!

  116. Supersuckers says: Aug 25, 2010 2:10 PM

    “Mccarthy uses this as an inside joke, and you know it.”
    ———–
    I hope you are kidding. pad level is stressed even at the high school level.

  117. Majik Bullet says: Aug 25, 2010 2:27 PM

    23 or 24%? Is that kind of like the 13 Favre got on his wonderlic? Stop making up numbers, and try using facts for a change. Still waiting for the proof that BS you claim Favre said about Mumbles’ camp.
    As for TT laughing, I wonder how funny he thought it was when Favre came into his house and lit the place up. 17-15 since the Steadily Mediocre One had the balls to “stand up” to Favre.

  118. Supersuckers says: Aug 25, 2010 2:38 PM

    “As for TT laughing, I wonder how funny he thought it was when Favre came into his house and lit the place up”
    —-
    Not funny, not that big of a deal.. Hes a long term GM that will win many titles and losing a regular season game is going to happen in this league. Now, he is tasked with improving the team to eclipse Minnesota which me and many experts believe he has. Have to move forward this year and at least win some playoff games.

  119. Majik Bullet says: Aug 25, 2010 3:19 PM

    What has TT done to bridge the gap between GB and Minny? He brought in no immediate upgrades, has lost 2 defensive starters, possibly 3 with Harris. Woodson, Driver, and both tackles got another year older. And they did absolutely nothing to improve a defense that was consistently torched by good QB’s.
    Meanwhile, Minny returns 22 of 22 starters (yes, Rice is out a while), while getting 2 key guys back from injury (EJ and Antoine).
    And how is it not a big deal to get swept by the Vikes? Had they won both, maybe even one of those games, they go from Wild Card to possible home field throughout the playoffs.
    As for the long term GM, you couldn’t be more right. It’s quite apparent TT has a 30 year plan to eventually compete for a title.

  120. Majik Bullet says: Aug 25, 2010 3:20 PM

    By the way Super, still waiting for that example of a team who has built their team up from within to make multiple championship runs. This should be easy, seeing as how you claim it’s the only way possible to do so.

  121. Supersuckers says: Aug 25, 2010 3:23 PM

    “What has TT done to bridge the gap between GB and Minny?”
    ———–
    Simple. The best offseason program and training camp in the NFL.

  122. Majik Bullet says: Aug 25, 2010 3:58 PM

    Supersuckers says: August 25, 2010 3:23 PM
    “What has TT done to bridge the gap between GB and Minny?”
    ———–
    Simple. The best offseason program and training camp in the NFL.
    ______________
    According to you, and no one else, until you can provide some sort of proof. It’s just pathetic that you have to base every one of your arguments on pure speculation and randomly self fabricated BS. You really are totally clueless.
    As for your “best offseason program,” you do realize that a good number of players don’t even train in GB during the offseason, right? A lot of guys train at their respective colleges, or with personal trainers.

  123. Supersuckers says: Aug 25, 2010 4:04 PM

    “I actually feel sorry for you that you believe the shit that blows out of GBP headquarters.”
    —————-
    Don’t waste your time feeling sorry for me!! I’m an Arby’s workin’ (least I have a job) average idiot!

  124. RC IV says: Aug 25, 2010 4:22 PM

    Supersuckers says:
    August 25, 2010 2:10 PM
    “Mccarthy uses this as an inside joke, and you know it.”
    ———–
    I hope you are kidding. pad level is stressed even at the high school level.
    =========================
    MM speaks in cliches.
    You believe him.
    Your not 14 years old
    I feel sorry for you.

  125. Chameleon says: Aug 25, 2010 6:29 PM

    RC IV
    1. SSgtLMJ says:
    August 24, 2010 11:48 PM
    RCIV…Dats my lil Viqueen! Now you’re talkin’…you are paying my salary and bonuses while I’m deployed
    ==================== ======
    With any luck, you won’t make it back.
    Holy crap Rotten Crotch you stuck you face in it this time. Too late to apologize, you’ve already proved what a rotten dirt bag you are and that is really putting it mildly. All three of your fathers should be ashamed of the lack of direction and maturity they have passed on to you. What a sorry excuse for a human being. If these threads are that important to you it’s clear you really live a shallow sorry existence. My niece just got back from Afghanistan and luckily in one piece. She served in a hospital. I can tell you she saw crap that you only see on TV war movies or those stupid ass video games you play.
    You just took the lead in the no class race between you, Perv and Gravy…..Although Pervy is close behind I don’t see you giving it up anytime soon.

  126. scra22 says: Aug 25, 2010 6:55 PM

    # RC IV says: August 25, 2010 8:51 AM
    SSgtLMJ says:
    August 24, 2010 11:48 PM
    RCIV…Dats my lil Viqueen! Now you’re talkin’…you are paying my salary and bonuses while I’m deployed
    ==================== ======
    With any luck, you won’t make it back.
    =====
    This is the kind of thing that’s so ridiculous on this site. This is FOOTBALL trash talk. A GAME. When you have to go below the belt like this because you’re so worked up about someone insulting your favorite team, maybe it’s time to step away from the computer, take a look in the mirror, and ask yourself why you would respond to football trash talking with a comment like this.

  127. cusoman says: Aug 26, 2010 12:14 AM

    @scra22:
    May we remind you that it is the Packer faithful that rile the people up in these threads. Don’t see a whole lot of that going on in the Packer threads, now do you?

  128. shaggytoodle says: Aug 26, 2010 7:12 AM

    What has TT done to bridge the gap between GB and Minny? He brought in no immediate upgrades, has lost 2 defensive starters, possibly 3 with Harris. Woodson, Driver, and both tackles got another year older. And they did absolutely nothing to improve a defense that was consistently torched by good QB’s.
    __________________________________
    Dp you know who else got a year older, f’n EVERYONE. I don’t believe Jolly was a starter and the defense played BETTER, because Kampman (dudes awesome) was playing out of position, but most Viking fans are foolish and attention starved like the ancient QB they go pick up every off season half way through pre season. He has all ready been working on the two preseason game thing if they were to expand, too bad for him that he will be back in Mississippi after week 17 is over.

  129. Majik Bullet says: Aug 26, 2010 9:43 AM

    shaggytoodle
    Wow, where to begin with such an idiot. As for everyone getting a year older, brilliant observation. But the point is, there’s a big difference between a 25 year old gaining a year, vs. a player in their mid 30’s gaining another year. I don’t know if you’re aware of this, (judging by the level of stupidity in your post you may not) but most skill position players start to slow down once they hit 30. That was the point, and anyone with an IQ higher than potato would have figured that out on their own.
    As for Johnny Jolly, do you even watch football? Jolly started every single game for the Packers, every one. Nice try super fan.
    Kampman may have been playing out of position, but he was and is better than any other option GB has available. Every team is going to run right at that trio of Jones, Poppinga, and Ted’s $5 million back-up, Chillar.
    As for Favre being back in Miss. after Week 17, you’re probably right. After all, he went back home last year after Week 17. Most players of teams that have 1st round byes get a few days off to relax. So yes, while your savior was fumble-punting your playoff hopes away, Favre was relaxing, probably at home, getting ready to win a playoff game, something your golden boy can’t figure out how to do.
    And apparently 2 preseason games (he’ll play in 3 this year, nice math genius) is more than enough for Favre, based on his performance last year.

  130. RC IV says: Aug 26, 2010 10:04 AM

    scra22 says:
    August 25, 2010 6:55 PM
    # RC IV says: August 25, 2010 8:51 AM
    SSgtLMJ says:
    August 24, 2010 11:48 PM
    RCIV…Dats my lil Viqueen! Now you’re talkin’…you are paying my salary and bonuses while I’m deployed
    ==================== ======
    With any luck, you won’t make it back.
    =====
    This is the kind of thing that’s so ridiculous on this site. This is FOOTBALL trash talk. A GAME. When you have to go below the belt like this because you’re so worked up about someone insulting your favorite team, maybe it’s time to step away from the computer, take a look in the mirror, and ask yourself why you would respond to football trash talking with a comment like this.
    ==============================
    I’m not worked up.
    I’m just an asshole.
    Sarge is a fake wannabe military guy.
    Chameleon: obsessed much?

  131. Supersuckers says: Aug 26, 2010 11:37 AM

    “Most players of teams that have 1st round byes get a few days off to relax.”
    —————-
    i don’t think a 1st round bye is in the cards for Minnesota this year. I think they are a good team that caan make the playoffs but Favre will “Favre” several tight games away.

  132. Majik Bullet says: Aug 26, 2010 11:56 AM

    Supersuckers says: August 26, 2010 11:37 AM
    i don’t think a 1st round bye is in the cards for Minnesota this year. I think they are a good team that caan make the playoffs but Favre will “Favre” several tight games away.
    ______________
    Well, we’ve all seen how your predictions have panned out, and how the “facts” you base them on are almost entirely made up, so coming from you this means absolutely nothing.

  133. Supersuckers says: Aug 26, 2010 12:49 PM

    “Well, we’ve all seen how your predictions have panned out, and how the “facts” you base them on are almost entirely made up, so coming from you this means absolutely nothing.”
    ——
    4-4 after the loss to Tampa…….pure prognasticating genious!

  134. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Aug 26, 2010 1:12 PM

    supersuckers, you have to be the biggest apologist in the gay vampire’s coven of toadies. after 5 years as g.m. he’s a couple games over .500 with 2 winning seasons and 1 playoff win and he’s by far the cheapest g.m. in the league.
    so you create this “improve from within” phrase which is a hilariously funny way to describe somebody to cheap to sign good players and try to buy him more time while he continues to build his legacy of mediocrity. his record speaks for itself. he sucks. literally.
    but you don’t seem to mind how mediocre your team is since he’s been g.m. cuz you’re clearly not a fan of the team, you’re just a toadie of the man. you’re part of his coven and you feel like it’s your life’s mission to protect him. do you tuck him into his coffin every morning too?? does ted improve from within his coffin??
    good luck improving from within.

  135. Majik Bullet says: Aug 26, 2010 1:15 PM

    Super says:
    pure prognasticating genious!
    ________________
    What’s funny is the guy calling himself a “genius” can’t even spell the word right, or prognosticating, for that matter.
    As for your “genious,” how quickly you forget the deep playoff run for GB, or the Pack over the Cards prediction, or how you said there was no way a cold Saints team would win their first playoff game.
    And if I recall correctly, you never predicted GB would make the playoffs, you only said that at 4-4, GB still had a chance. I’m pretty sure this was when you were going through your “know nothing, I don’t make projections” phase.

  136. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Aug 26, 2010 1:16 PM

    i thnk today is national improve from within day, be sure you send everybody an improve from within card and encourage homeless people to improve from within. nobody should pay their taxes, just tell the government to improve from within. i have already ordered my dog to improve from within and feed himself from now on. improving from within is really cool.

  137. Supersuckers says: Aug 26, 2010 1:35 PM

    “Pack over the Cards prediction”
    ——————–
    they did beat the Cards last year.

  138. Majik Bullet says: Aug 26, 2010 1:54 PM

    Supersuckers says: August 26, 2010 1:35 PM
    “Pack over the Cards prediction”
    —————– —
    they did beat the Cards last year.
    _____________
    Not when it mattered, like you said they would. Nice try though, a real stroke of “genious.”

  139. Supersuckers says: Aug 26, 2010 1:58 PM

    “good luck improving from within”
    ————
    i think they might just be fully developed from the offseason improving from within the past four years.

  140. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Aug 26, 2010 2:12 PM

    back to work super, arby’s isn’t just gonna improve from within by itself

  141. RC IV says: Aug 26, 2010 2:21 PM

    Improving from within is another MM/TT cliche.
    Listen to a McCarthy press conference.
    He has about 10 diffrent things he says after games.
    Pad level
    I’ll have to see the tape
    Mason is our icker going forward.
    Super laps it up like it’s the word of God handed down to Moses.
    You’ll have to excuse him, he isn’t that bright.
    He thinks he knows, but he really doesn’t know, you know?

  142. Supersuckers says: Aug 26, 2010 2:32 PM

    Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says:
    August 26, 2010 2:12 PM
    back to work super, arby’s isn’t just gonna improve from within by itself
    ——————-
    We have made great strides over the past 5 years. We have reinvented our menu to include a dozen deli style sandwiches, we have cleaned up the appearance of our restaurants, all while maintaining the traditional signature roast beef sanwich which we all have come to love. We did it with our own people. Arby’s people. We didn’t go after Subway rejects or a disgruntled Hardees worker who was shopping around for more pay

  143. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Aug 26, 2010 2:39 PM

    yeah i know, it’s understandable tho, mcfatboy has such a way with words and aunty ted has such a manly and magnetic personality – super would probly put on a white robe and shave his head and dance around ted chanting “improve from within” if ted asked him to.

  144. shaggytoodle says: Aug 26, 2010 2:40 PM

    Yeah I watch football, Jolly may have started, but Pickett is back and healthy. So that isn’t really a concern for me, and as for “everyone getting older over 30,” your talking about the DEFENSIVE PLAYER of the year, and the all time leading reciever as a so most GB fans aren’t worried about that either. I am worried about Al Harris recovering from his injury but as far as teams that ran right at the trio of LBs last season, because without Kampman FOR HALF THE SEASON, they still a top run stopping defense.
    If age is a concern for you on the Packers squad what do you think is going to happen when a team plays a QB thats 40? So old he can’t play more than 4 plays, in his TRIUMPHANT return. How much has he lost?

  145. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Aug 26, 2010 3:03 PM

    super, i actually really like arby’s especially the curlee fries and cheesy sauce and i think arby’s employees are much better than those filthy Subways rejects and those disgruntled Hardees troublemakers.

  146. Majik Bullet says: Aug 26, 2010 3:07 PM

    shaggy
    Yes, Woodson was defensive player of the year. Remember when Shaun Alexander won the MVP? Remember how the wheels fell of the very next year. Players get old, it happens. And when it does, their production tends to nose dive.
    As for Favre’s age, a QB’s speed and agility isn’t nearly as important as, say, a cornerback. Favre played tremendously at age 40 last year, no reason to believe he can’t do it again.

  147. shaggytoodle says: Aug 26, 2010 3:14 PM

    Viking fans find so much humor form the improve from the inside, because they have never seen it done. Who is the last GREAT QB they actually drafted? The team leader in sacks was in KC a couple of seasons ago, and the all-world offensive linemen had to get poison pilled into a Vikings uni. While the Packers projected starting offesne has atleast 9 starters which they had originally drafted while the defense has 7.

  148. minnesconsin_ad says: Aug 26, 2010 3:20 PM

    i for one can’t wait for the season to start so we can actually talk about, you know, football. listen, a fan of any team can sit here in late August and make bold predictions about the impending implosion of their rivals, and of course their own championship-in-progress. I can think up a million reasons why I think the Packers will be good this year and about 2 million why I think the Vikings will be bad this year — none of those reasons are worth a $hit once the ball’s kicked off and people start hitting each other. Everyone needs to calm the hell down. It’s fun to argue, and everyone is entertained to a certain degree by this act…but don’t forget our petty arguments will have no bearing on the reality of this football season.
    when it comes down to the way the coach addresses the fans and media, let’s get something straight. MM and TT speak in cliches and absolutes: pad level, improve from within, “packer people,” character, football culture, “graded out as a plus,” blah blah blah — not because they believe in them, or because they desperately want their fans to believe in them, but because they feel it’s in the best interest of the team to say as little as possible, period. Truth be told I think this is how MOST head coaches and GM’s approach the media. Their job requires them to address the media on set occasions, usually for a set period of time — to them this is a necessary evil. Don’t expect them to give a smidgeon more than the bare minimum. I think Rex Ryan is the exception here :)

  149. Supersuckers says: Aug 26, 2010 3:30 PM

    Majik says,
    “he can’t do it again”
    —————
    We don’t think so either.

  150. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Aug 26, 2010 3:36 PM

    i agree shaggytoodle, free agency is evil and impure. we secretly cringe every time allen gets a sack or hutchinson throws a block cuz they were acquired by trade and free agency instead of the draft.
    someday your noble crusade to outlaw free agency and have the rest of the league join ted in improving from within will come to fruition!

  151. Majik Bullet says: Aug 26, 2010 3:49 PM

    # Supersuckers says: August 26, 2010 1:58 PM
    “good luck improving from within”
    ————
    i think they might just be fully developed from the offseason improving from within the past four years.
    _______________
    Seems to me they have regressed the past few years. Didn’t Favre lead them to a 13-3 NFCC game season in 2007. They haven’t even managed a playoff win since then.

  152. Supersuckers says: Aug 26, 2010 4:01 PM

    majik all the breaks they got in 2007 went against them in 2008.

  153. Majik Bullet says: Aug 26, 2010 4:23 PM

    Super
    Good teams, and good QB’s, find a way to overcome “bad breaks” (total excuse for losers by the way). And 4 of those breaks you speak of that went against them were game icing picks by the Golden Child.
    And I see you’ve reverted back to leaving out the important words to try to muster some sort of weak defense, yet again. Sad, I pity you.

  154. RC IV says: Aug 26, 2010 4:23 PM

    Supersuckers says:
    August 26, 2010 4:01 PM
    majik all the breaks they got in 2007 went against them in 2008.
    ==================
    Nah, nothing to do with GayRod not being able to finish a game….lol
    What a peanut filled turd you are.

  155. shaggytoodle says: Aug 27, 2010 2:14 AM

    Not trying to outlaw free agency just stating a fact. Its quite obvious that minnesotas coaches aren’t good enough to extract all the talent out of the players they draft. The only time they can seem to hit on someone is bringing them in threw FA or just being lucky to suck enough to draft players as taleneted as Peterson.

  156. Majik Bullet says: Aug 27, 2010 8:48 AM

    shaggy
    So it’s just luck that Minny has drafted Greenway, AD, and Harvin in in the first round? I can buy being lucky with one good pick, but when it’s a trend like it is with the Vikes, it has more to do with good talent evaluation skills.
    Kind of like that Thompson guy on the other side of the river, with draft bust after bust. He does manage to get lucky and sprinkle in some decent players, but the majority are misses.

  157. RC IV says: Aug 27, 2010 9:48 AM

    shaggytoodle says:
    August 27, 2010 2:14 AM
    Not trying to outlaw free agency just stating a fact. Its quite obvious that minnesotas coaches aren’t good enough to extract all the talent out of the players they draft. The only time they can seem to hit on someone is bringing them in threw FA or just being lucky to suck enough to draft players as taleneted as Peterson.
    ==================================
    Idiot:
    13 starters were drafted :
    DE Edwards 8.5 sacks
    LB Greenway- team leader tackles
    RB/WR Harvin – OROY
    MLB EJ Henderson – beast
    OG Herrera
    S T. Johnson
    RT Loadholt
    LT Mckinnie – Pro Bowl
    RB All Day
    C Sullivan
    DT K. Williams – Pro Bowl
    CB Griffin
    WR Rice – Prow bowl
    Not to mention:
    CB’s Allen and Cook
    RB Gerhart
    DE Griffen
    TE Kleinsasser
    PR Reynaud
    DE Robison
    RB A.Young
    OL Cook,Cooper and DeGeare
    LB Brinkley
    QB Jackson
    All good back-ups, some potential starters!
    Nah, they don’t know how to draft at all.
    Nearly 50% of their roster is draft picks.
    Shrewd trades and smart FA signings fill out the roster.
    Just because your “alternative lifestyle” GM doesn’t use it very much, is no reason to be stupid and bitter and lie about the Vikes roster.
    Walk away, you have no clue what you are talking about.

  158. shaggytoodle says: Aug 27, 2010 3:22 PM

    Yes you guys have hit on first round ESPECIALLY when your drafting in the top 20 picks which has been all but one of the first round picks since 2002. AP Kevin Williams and Bryant McKinnie are ALL TOP TEN PICKS. They should be able to make pro bowls as they were some of the top prospects at thier position. I don’t judge the Vikings for building with in just stating a fact. I mean some teams like the Colts, and Pats can build through drafting and good coachig. Some teams have to use FA. Why do you think the Vikings can afford to give up so many draft picks when trading for a Jared Allen, cuz they don’t know how to use draft picks anyway. They can’t even turn the cards in on time on draft day thats how foolish they are when it comes to it.

  159. thetechnocrat says: Aug 27, 2010 4:30 PM

    Why all the bold post gayness? No one reads posts like that because it’s considered shouting just like all caps. I blame Florio.

  160. Pervy *Harvin says: Aug 27, 2010 4:39 PM

    paging Mike Hunt….

  161. Majik Bullet says: Aug 27, 2010 5:58 PM

    Hey shaggy, when were AJ Hawk and BJ Raji drafted? What’s that, top 10. Weird. And just curious, but who did the Vikings draft in the top 20 in 2008 and 2009? There’s 2 drafts with no picks in the top 20, but according to you, there’s been only one.
    And it’s funny how in the same paragraph, you list 3 Pro Bowlers drafted by the Vikes, yet you proceed to say the Vikes don’t know how to draft. Do you realize how badly you’re contradicting yourself? You’re an idiot.

  162. shaggytoodle says: Aug 27, 2010 10:15 PM

    Yeah they are in the top ten unfortunetly AJ Hawk isn’t as great as he looked in college, but Raji will be the anchor the D and will prove that he was worthy of top ten picks.
    All but ONE of the Vikings FIRST round picks has been in the top 20 since 2002 you guys are too foolish to read whats in front of you. Maybe you guys should try looking elsewhere if you don’t believe me, before you spaz out.
    Yes the 3 Pro Bowlers I listed, as I also stated where all in the top 10 when selected. Where you hope that you would get pro bowl talent.
    I hope no more Viking fans read this so I don’t have to repost again for them.

  163. Majik Bullet says: Aug 27, 2010 11:47 PM

    shaggy
    Was Harvin a top 10 pick? Was Rice a top 10 pick?
    It’s funny how you disregard the 3 Pro Bowl Vikings because they were top 10 picks. How many recent GB top 10 picks have even sniffed a Pro Bowl? Here’s their last 3, did any of these studs make the Pro Bowl?
    Jamal Reynolds? AJ Hawk? BJ Raji?
    As for Raji, is being the “anchor” of a bad defense who gets walked all over really considered being successful?

  164. shaggytoodle says: Aug 28, 2010 3:14 AM

    I never said that Rice and Harvin were top ten picks, but while we are on the same topic how many games are those two going to start for you this season?
    I am sorry that I don’t find it completley astonishing that top ten make the pro bowl. While Packers have not had any of the 3 of the last top ten picks make a pro bowl yet Reynolds and Hawk obviously won’t make it, but while MOST of the probowlers listed for Minnesota were top 10 choices the Packers have players like
    Nick Collins, Donald Driver, Aaron Kampman. that made MULTIPLE pro bowls that were drafted after the first round. THANKS TO COACHING AND DEVOLPMENT WITH IN!!!!
    The Vikings can take the best HB in college the top LT they should be good when they get drafted that high. Minnesota can only find talent when it bites them in the ass.
    Raji will continue to help anchor what was the number 1 rush defense, but if thats what you consider getting “walked all over” I really hate to hear what you think of your phenomal brick wall made of Starcaps.

  165. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Aug 28, 2010 4:01 AM

    “unfortunetly AJ Hawk isn’t as great as he looked in college”
    wow. understatement. he can’t shed blocks, he can’t cover over the middle, he’s pretty much invisible most games, i don’t think he’ll even be starting for you guys – how many worse top 5 picks have there been in the last 5 years? harrell is a bust cuz he hasn’t even been playing but hawk as a top 5 pick was just as abad of a pick and raji so far is a disappointment, raji and hawk were top 10 picks and hawk was top 5.
    the vikes picks under spielman and studwell have been so much better, ad, harvin and rice were all pro bowlers last year, cook looks awesome, greenway

  166. Majik Bullet says: Aug 28, 2010 9:34 AM

    shaggytoodle says: August 28, 2010 3:14 AM
    I never said that Rice and Harvin were top ten picks, but while we are on the same topic how many games are those two going to start for you this season?
    _________________
    Probably a lot more than Reynolds will for GB. Rice figures on starting 8 games, more with the playoffs. Harvin will start most games, may miss one or 2, just like last year. But are you really suggesting Minny is at fault for not foreseeing that Rice would injure his hip? Really? Well then why didn’t GB see that Harrel, a top 20 pick, would get hurt any time he stepped on a football field. What has he played, about 10 downs his entire career?
    But why are you so obsessed with only using the draft, and scoff at trades and free agents. Last I checked, Minny has had great success using those 2 avenues. Guys like Allen, Favre, Hutch. It just makes sense to use all available avenues. Why would you fault the Vikes for trading draft picks for a guy like Jared Allen? Should they have kept them, and drafted guys like Harrel, Brian Brohm, Jordy Nelson, and AJ Hawk?
    As you’ve said, you expect great production from top 10 picks. So you write off the success of Minny’s top 10 pick Pro Bowlers. Yet all of GB’s recent top 10 picks have been failures, but that’s OK in your eyes. How does this even begin to be rational?
    AS for GB’s number 1 rush defense, it’s not even close to as good as the numbers suggest. I mean, Beanie Wells and the 28th ranked Cardinals rushing attack put up over 150 on them in the last game they played that counted. Get used to seeing that without Jolly, another GB draft success story.

  167. shaggytoodle says: Aug 28, 2010 12:18 PM

    I don’t scoff at it, the way Minesotta assembles its team its completely fine. Thats what they need to do put a team out and hope will be a success.
    You guys scoff at building from within and drafting and creating depth. I think the Packers are far better at that then Minnesota is. Thats the point I am trying to push across.
    Top ten picks should be elite talent, Hawk wasn’t, but if you want to know some worse top five picks of last five years, Cedric Benson,CHI Adams in TB (rip) and Jamarcus Russel wasn’t that great of a top five pick.
    Raji was the best DT in his class in my opinion and will pan out though. He will need a little time on it, but will be fine.
    Packers build depth i.e. Bigby has been injured alot last season they draft a safety. They knew Jolly probably wasn’t going to be around they draft DL.
    Minnesota is probably trying to use this tactic for when Fumbles (All Day) gets hurt or puts the ball on the carpet too much Gerhart can come in and be a solution.

  168. Majik Bullet says: Aug 28, 2010 1:11 PM

    What do Benson, Adams, and Russell have to do with the drafts of GB and Minny? You’re ripping on Minny’s draft, yet they have drafted more hits than misses, while Thompson keeps on misfiring.
    From 2005-2009, GB had over 50 draft picks. 3 of those picks have made a Pro Bowl, and Matthews only got there by injury replacement. In that same period, Minny had 24 picks, with the same amount of Pro Bowlers. And each team has added a few other solid contributors. The difference being Minny has brought in multiple Pro Bowlers using FA and trades, while GB has done nothing.
    In the past 4 years, Minny has steadily improved their overall performance. GB has been incredibly inconsistent.

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