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League wants to move forward with 18-game season

To no surprise, the NFL continues to be moving toward an “enhancement” of the regular season from 16 to 18 games.

On Wednesday in Atlanta, the league’s owners expressed support for the move.  No vote to proceed with the shift from 16 regular-season games and four preseason games to 18 regular-season games and two preseason games was taken.

But no vote really needs to be taken; it’s obvious that the league wants to do it.

I think it’s a win-win all around,” Patriots owner Bob Kraft said, per the Associated Press.

Commissioner Roger Goodell, who said that the enhancement would be implemented in 2012, noted publicly for the first time the fact that the current labor deal already authorizes an 18-game regular season and a four-game preseason, which would result in 22 total games.  As we explained on May 24, Article XXXVIII, Section 12 of the CBA gives the league the ability to
increase the regular season to 18 games
by giving at least 90 days
notice to the NFLPA.  Article XXXVII, Section 6 limits the preseason to four games.  (The teams in the Hall of Fame game play a fifth time in the preseason.)

The problem, of course, is that the current labor deal is being scuttled.  Thus, the union likely will contend that, if the owners wanted to impose an 18-game regular season pursuant to their current rights under the CBA, the owners shouldn’t have pulled the plug on the CBA two years early.

And if the league takes the position at the bargaining table that ownership already has bargained for the right to conduct up to 22 preseason and regular-season games per year, the union should respond by pointing out that the union already has bargained for the right to 59.6 cents on the dollar, after roughly $1 billion is taken off the top to cover certain expenses.

Regardless of any past deals, everything will be on the table when it’s time to negotiate the next labor contract.  Later tonight, we’ll have some details about what the players likely will want in return for adding two regular-season games.

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73 Responses to “League wants to move forward with 18-game season”
  1. jsbeck says: Aug 25, 2010 8:54 PM

    bad idea.
    4 bad 3 good 2 bad.
    they are going to mess this up for ufa and late rounders who often make an impact.
    boycottfootball.com

  2. Larry David says: Aug 25, 2010 8:56 PM

    It should be a 17 game schedule with 3 preseason games. 4 preseason games is too many, but 2 is not enough, so that would make the most sense imo.

  3. PhilVill41 says: Aug 25, 2010 8:58 PM

    18 regular season games is a terrible idea.If it aint broke don’t fix it.The meaningless preseason games will be moved to the end of the regular season and fans will still pay top dollar for inferior games.Wait till a team is out of the playoff chase with 5 or 6 games to go and mails it in for the rest of the season,that will be great football won’t it?All season records will be ruined as well.

  4. bspurloc says: Aug 25, 2010 9:04 PM

    stupid….
    18 so they can fly all the teams to england and mexico easier………….

  5. JMClarkent says: Aug 25, 2010 9:07 PM

    The NFL is doing everything in their power to screw the Golden Goose in the ass…

  6. Trojan4life5869 says: Aug 25, 2010 9:21 PM

    This stinks of money grubbing baseball owners. two more games is just gonna screw up the entire season. too many broken bodies and now the SB will be in Feb!!

  7. brownsfn19 says: Aug 25, 2010 9:23 PM

    How can more football be a bad thing??? And its actually not more just 2 more that count and 2 less that don’t count…lets go owners lets get this done…
    Oh yeah…don’t forget to force the greedy ass players to take a paycut…

  8. osnap305 says: Aug 25, 2010 9:24 PM

    No. Jesus Christ no. Doing so will completely **** with the evaluation process. You can’t learn about 80 men in two games. Especially if one of those games is going to be a “dress rehearsal” game in which the starters play.

  9. Serr8d says: Aug 25, 2010 9:25 PM

    Preseason games suck wind. Because they cost me, a season ticketholder, as much as do regular season games, with a tenth the overall value (or less, really).
    Why not keep 16 regular season games, and make each of the 4 preseason games worth a 1/2 game each? So, you then have 18 games total, with some real value given to what now are a complete and total waste of space and time. With a win-out of all the games a team could be 18-0 (then Peyton could blow up in postseason as usual ).

  10. Fantavet says: Aug 25, 2010 9:26 PM

    I agree with the first comment. Wes Welker. A undrafted rookie. Does he make a team after only two preseason games? Possible. But I think coaches really use the full preseason to evauluate the diamonds in the rough. I also hate the injury factor. The NFL playoffs are becoming “Survivor” the healthiest teams advance.

  11. timegambit says: Aug 25, 2010 9:27 PM

    How much is enough, Gorden?

  12. In & Out Burger says: Aug 25, 2010 9:32 PM

    I don’t care about foreign games but I don’t want more games. Just get rid of two preseason ones.

  13. marktg30 says: Aug 25, 2010 9:33 PM

    16 Games is better than no football at all…
    Then again these guys all get paid about 100x’s more than they should…
    Screw’em all.

  14. 8man says: Aug 25, 2010 9:34 PM

    Well a typical NFL player gets paid his annual salary over the 17 week regular season. So it stands to reason that the NLFPA will want an extra 2/16ths of each salary added to the prorated salary over the 18 or 19 week season.
    Example: If Tom Brady is scheduled now to make $10 million in 2012, the NFLPA would ask his salary to actually be $11.25 million.
    Of course it’s not that simple. I would think that the owners would want to get this established quickly in order to include that stipulation in all new contracts. And there are other huge issues such as roster size. Two extra games means more injuries. I think the NFLPA will have a valid argument for increasing the roster from 53 to say, 60 players.
    I remember in 1978 when the NFL went to the 16 game season, internet sites like PFT were filled with crazy speculation then too. Oh wait…..

  15. truushot says: Aug 25, 2010 9:36 PM

    How is this a bad idea? The fans get to see more games that mean something, the league can make more money on the next t.v. contract and the players will make more money in the end. Hell the players need to be kneeling and servicing the owners as it is. What business in the world give the f#*#ing employees nearly 60 percent of the revenue?

  16. INTENSEG says: Aug 25, 2010 9:36 PM

    If they go to 18 games……
    Will the season start in August or stay the same?
    Then owners will need to increase roster size to probably another 10 players. Gonna be more injuries, I would think.
    Then the owners of course want the players to take less than the 59.6 % on the dollar they already get now but play more games.
    The owners could be screwing themselves on this one.
    With the toll a 16 game football season takes on the players bodies, plus compared to Baseball and Basketball, NFL players make much less for more work. If any of you think it’s just a game, just go outside and try blocking a moving car a few times and see if that changes your mind.

  17. Art Van Delay's brother says: Aug 25, 2010 9:42 PM

    Morons! A few greedy owners looking for more cash at the expense of the game. George Halas and Art Rooney are turning over in their graves. Two more games means additional pay to the players which comes out of the fans pockets who have endured personal seat lincenses and more.
    What’s worse is watching ESPN or the NFL Network and with ex-players with no broadcasting talent (or for that matter, linguistic skills) scream “pay the man” everytime there’s a salary dispute. The average American worker needs a little respect from the NFL and it’s not by charging them for $8 beers and $6 hotdogs.

  18. VoxVagina says: Aug 25, 2010 9:43 PM

    This is so stupid. I’m pissed because any team can pick up some late rounders and undrafted free agents and turns them into studs. But realistically, with a short preseason, practice squad scrubs and irrelevant draft picks have almost no the chance to become more than that. Ex: Miles Austin and Tony Romo, Marques Colston, Kurt Warner, Priest Holmes, Antonio Gates, James Harrison, London Fletcher, John Randle, etc. You get my point. Plus the system now works. What’s the point of messing with it? Preseason is boring, big deal. The owners need to stop being greedy thinking about the profit of 2 reg season games. It’s not like 2 more games would help the teams that struggle to sell tickets, anyway. The preseason is an important coaching tool.
    I actually enjoy the competitiveness that some players show in the preseason. There’s nothing like watching unknown players play so desperately for a roster spot. You never know who the next diamond in the rough could be, and I would hate for the next Tony Romo (although I hate him) to miss his chance because the owners and fans wanted 2 more regular season games

  19. superb owl says: Aug 25, 2010 9:44 PM

    and a union leadership supporting unlimited pay for rookies isnt screwing the golden goose in the ass?
    easier to replace players… u dont like 18 games?
    find a new job.
    a whole slew of players cant figure out a way to reliably show up for the jobs they have.

  20. football24-7 says: Aug 25, 2010 9:46 PM

    bring on 18 games it will be welcome among real football fans!!

  21. 60minuteassassin says: Aug 25, 2010 9:47 PM

    Why don’t they just add more bye weeks? I realize that doesn’t help the consession stands and the ticket sales, but at least you’d have the advertisement dollars.

  22. Roger Goodell's a tool. says: Aug 25, 2010 9:50 PM

    This just in: League wants to make more money.
    Horrible idea. There are so many great players that go undrafted and earn their way onto the team via the preseason games.
    Check out my name, it says it all. Goodell is ruining the NFL.

  23. Old_Style says: Aug 25, 2010 9:52 PM

    And that’s why Slap Shot and Youngblood will always be tied for the best hockey movie ever.

  24. FinFan68 says: Aug 25, 2010 9:52 PM

    Their collective stupidity is remarkable. There is no need for a longer season. Kill the 2 preseason games if they want…fine. Teams can hold joint practices to evaluate personnel (like saints/pats did) Just a stupid ploy to squeeze more money for the fans. Ticket prices will go up because there will be two more meaningful games, but, that logic is flawed. Their argument for the current prices is you are paying for X number of games including the preseason…but the number won’t change. Some of these changes are designed to make money regardless of the impact on the game itself. The NFL is the most successful sports league and these guys are doing everything in their power to ruin what they have. No need for foreign games and no need for this. It was not broken…leave it the hell alone morons

  25. DasRipper says: Aug 25, 2010 9:52 PM

    Lame.

  26. OJPimpson says: Aug 25, 2010 9:59 PM

    The reason why I don’t like 18 games is because of the record books. This will screw everything up.

  27. kravon says: Aug 25, 2010 9:59 PM

    Great move for the fans. Bad move for the players.
    If the players dont like it then retire, nobody is forcing them to play in the NFL. If the fans dont like, then dont watch.
    The simple solution for ‘meaningless’ games at the end of the year is to back load the schedule with all divisional games.
    @ LarryDavid – You cant do a 17 game season and give half the teams an extra home game.
    Kravon
    PFT Charter Member

  28. NJBoysFan says: Aug 25, 2010 10:03 PM

    It’s funny, anytime I hear Goodell speak he claims fans are overwhelmingly for an 18 game season, yet at the time of this post the 5 visible comments all are against it. I just see 18 games as watering down the league.
    Now with the ALS, Head injury link, and only 5 years of post career health insurance, the NFL is heading down a bad road. There is such strategy altering changes that would have to be implemented, I don’t see it as exciting or a positive. Like for example will QBs be allowed to be touched, if you need them to last 18 weeks. Will they allow players to go off and on of the IR? Will they have a 4,6,8,12 game IR? Mirroring the MLB disabled list?
    Do we really want seasons to be decided in late Jan in P-Burg, Buffalo, etc weather? The NFL is now a high octane passing league, not a smash mouth one, I don’t want 10-7 games with QBs going 11-31 for 147yrds and such. /Rant.

  29. mashoaf says: Aug 25, 2010 10:11 PM

    What happens with their game checks? wouldn’t they go down? And then the owners would still be complaining about how they pay the players too much money (that they agreed to pay them).

  30. Massappeal says: Aug 25, 2010 10:12 PM

    Tough luck to all you loyal fans out there that had to struggle getting that 16+2 ticket money, 6 months before a game is played…..while still paying off Christmas. Gimme, gimme gimme 18+2 now.I want it I want it…….suckers.

  31. Admiral Obvious says: Aug 25, 2010 10:13 PM

    They are not being logical. End of season games are mostly boring affairs while playoff games are always exciting. Playoff games also generate more revenue.
    Solution:
    16 game regular season
    16 team playoff
    5 weeks for playoffs: 16 teams, 8, 4, week off, superbowl
    Now give me my zillion dollar consulting fee.

  32. RyanT. says: Aug 25, 2010 10:14 PM

    This is one area where I am 100% on the players union side!
    Screw these greedy owners and their talking monkey Roger Goodell…(with all due aplogies to innocent primates who are far too good to be compared to Goodell).
    The players need to know that the fans stand with them in opposing this 18 game regular season gimmick!
    The preseason is vital and serves a very useful purpose. Fans who can’t understand this don’t understand football. Anyone satisfied with their team’s performance so far this preseason? They all look pretty rusty…but that is why 4 preseason games are vital.

  33. packfan66 says: Aug 25, 2010 10:16 PM

    bad bad idea. this will result in many more injuries and meaningless games at the end of the season. if it aint broke don’t fix it. football is last sport i pay any attention to, owners please dont ruin it with your greed

  34. RyanT. says: Aug 25, 2010 10:17 PM

    Only the owners and Goodell would be arrogant enough to blowup the CBA, and then try to use said CBA, which they destroyed, to push their 18 game greedfest!
    You can’t quote from the CBA, which you backed out on guys!
    “I’m cancelling our contract, but pursuant to section XXXVII of said contract, we are allowed to have 18 games with just 90 days notice.” -Goodell and the idiotic owners

  35. Indyeagle says: Aug 25, 2010 10:31 PM

    Awful Idea. C’mon Florio, use some of your pull to get the fans voice heard. EVERYTIME this is brought up on PFT, the fans are overwhelmingly against it.
    I ask all of my buddies what their thoughts are, and everyone but one d-bag is against it.
    The only people for this are the owners.

  36. agenice says: Aug 25, 2010 10:36 PM

    Massappeal says:
    August 25, 2010 10:12 PM
    Tough luck to all you loyal fans out there that had to struggle getting that 16+2 ticket money, 6 months before a game is played…..while still paying off Christmas. Gimme, gimme gimme 18+2 now.I want it I want it…….suckers.

    You’re an idiot… you know how many games i have to buy at full price right now?
    10..
    you know how many i’ll have to buy when they go to 18 games and 2 preseason?
    10..
    Shut your trap and keep moving.

  37. TJ Whippets says: Aug 25, 2010 10:37 PM

    Goodell is full of BS…
    Would he agree to a fan vote on NFL.com regarding the 18-game season?
    I guarantee fans would vote for 16 games…it’s the absolute perfect length just the way it is. (That’s what she said last night…)
    LET’S DEMAND A VOTE ON NFL.COM!!!

  38. buddha says: Aug 25, 2010 10:59 PM

    TROJAN4LIFE says that “too many broken bodies and now the SB will be in Feb!!!”. Maybe you havent been paying attention, but it HAS been in Feb!

  39. dc4545 says: Aug 25, 2010 11:03 PM

    Just had to put my two cents in. Lots of great comments so far. I too am against the expansion of the season. I had to chime in if for no other reason than to answer the question of some NFL corporate guy looking to see what the common man thinks! How does the old adage go? If it ain’t broke?
    As another commenter put it, don’t continue to screw the Golden Goose, NFL!

  40. alty says: Aug 25, 2010 11:09 PM

    i’m so glad to see how many people are against this, i’m a die hard football fan and thinks this is a horrible idea.
    dont fix something that aint broke. more injuries, less importance on each game, more players added to reduce the talent pool, years of stats thrown away, players wearing down physically and mentally (16 games is gruelling enough for these guys), and on and on i can go why this is such a bad idea.
    BUT here is the thing that makes it the worse, the media is promoting it like a good thing for fans, and reporting that the fans are on board with this, and its clear the majority of fans dont want it!!!!!!
    HEY OWNERS AND MEDIA: WE DONT WANT IT!! LISTEN TO THE FANS AN D STOP WORRYING ABOUT YOUR WALLETS!!!

  41. PackAttackBackMan says: Aug 25, 2010 11:13 PM

    # OJPimpson says: August 25, 2010 9:59 PM
    The reason why I don’t like 18 games is because of the record books. This will screw everything up.
    ——————————————————
    I agree. Every record will get broken.

  42. Big Papa John says: Aug 25, 2010 11:25 PM

    The owners all want this so they can build mega stadiums like the North Texas Football Cathederal. They can no longer count on tax payers to fund these monoliths so revenues have to be raised. I will bet ticket prices go up after the 18 game schedule is approved. After all you will be seeing a better product(so says Roger).The NFL is going Wall Street so luxury superboxes are the rage and new bigger stadiums must be built. A season ticket holder has a small chance of getting a seat to see his team play in the Superbowl as it is now. Roger is all about the profit. I can’t wait to see untested scrubs running around playing the few still meaningful games during week 18. They will be untested because they received few reps in the preseason. Imagine a wild card team having to play 4 more games to win the Superbowl. There will never be anymore repeat Super Bowl winners as those teams will be worn out.

  43. thumper says: Aug 25, 2010 11:27 PM

    “quote”
    Why not keep 16 regular season games, and make each of the 4 preseason games worth a 1/2 game each? So, you then have 18 games total, with some real value given to what now are a complete and total waste of space and time. With a win-out of all the games a team could be 18-0 (then Peyton could blow up in postseason as usual ).
    this is a great idea

  44. URlyle says: Aug 25, 2010 11:48 PM

    Currently tickets prices are the same for preseason games as regular season games. So how is an 18 game season with 2 preseason game going to be better for the owners than the current structure? Does the TV revenue increase?

  45. spudz says: Aug 26, 2010 12:33 AM

    The owners should forget the 18 game season. It is fine at 16. What they should be doing is increasing the amount of teams that make the playoffs to 8 for each conference. By doing so they would improve the excitement of the last few games(see Colts and Bengalspathetic displays last year) because more teams would be in the hunt to make it in.

  46. cause you are the same says: Aug 26, 2010 12:53 AM

    # Roger Goodell’s a tool. says: August 25, 2010 9:50 PM
    This just in: League wants to make more money.
    Horrible idea. There are so many great players that go undrafted and earn their way onto the team via the preseason games.
    Check out my name, it says it all. Goodell is ruining the NFL.
    —————————————–
    They would increase the roster size, soo more of the aforementioned undrafted rooks would get a chance to MAKE the team, no?
    ——————————————-
    ——————————————–
    # Admiral Obvious says: August 25, 2010 10:13 PM
    They are not being logical. End of season games are mostly boring affairs while playoff games are always exciting. Playoff games also generate more revenue.
    Solution:
    16 game regular season
    16 team playoff
    5 weeks for playoffs: 16 teams, 8, 4, week off, superbowl
    Now give me my zillion dollar consulting fee.
    ———————————–
    Oh…that’s exciting. Be just like the NBA and teams with losing records make the playoffs…
    Demoted to Seaman 2nd Class…not even an insulting fee!!

  47. skinsfan05 says: Aug 26, 2010 12:59 AM

    great idea! its a weak argument to talk about two more regular season games ruining the regular season. Are you saying that your team should not advance to the playoffs because they would have to play more games and players could get hurt? Ican understand why NFl players and sports writers are totally against this idea…. because it takes away from time off of work. It is obvious that is the agenda.Or it could be team or individual records becoming less significant that make people oppose this. Should we go back to the days of a 10 game season? what is actually so terrible going from a 16 game season to an 18 game season?

  48. robert ethen says: Aug 26, 2010 1:00 AM

    16 to 18 games isn’t much of an enhancement, what’s the big deal? That is about a 12% increase. I’m enrolled in an enhancement program that promises a 50% increase. All for just $350 plus shipping and handling.

  49. patpatriotagain says: Aug 26, 2010 1:04 AM

    jsbeck and others – you are dead wrong. the rosters will be expanding, so yes, players like wes welker would have made the team. and when starters go down with injury more of those late rounders and UFA’s will see playing time. this is bad for the fan who wants to see quality football in December and beyond.

  50. cowboyjesc says: Aug 26, 2010 1:09 AM

    just dont mess with it , they just need a developmental league at somepoint of the off-season , just to get the fans from feb_sept.

  51. wintermoonrising says: Aug 26, 2010 1:30 AM

    More injuries, less meaningful games at the end of the season, and too much still needs to be fixed like rookie salaries which are totally outrageous and completely unjustified. Pay the guys who have proven themselves!!!
    The Union is nothing more than another form of “community organization” shaking down people to feed their own greedy desires, and the owners are greedy, yes, but are probably more stupid. Together they will kill the NFL. Book it!!!

  52. DC_Bengals_Fan says: Aug 26, 2010 1:49 AM

    Yuk. The quality of the first few games is already low, how bad will it be when teams have even less time to prepare? And how about all the guys who find excuses to skip camp, now they’ll be playing their way into shape during the actual season.
    One other question – will the games go on the front end of the season, back, or one each? If it’s at the front, that’s a problem with heat. If it’s at the back, you’ve got an even bigger problem with snow. The possibility of a playoff game in Green Bay in mid-February sounds fantastic.

  53. OLDNFLFAN says: Aug 26, 2010 1:55 AM

    If the league is going to expand the season to 18 games teams should be able to expand the rosters to include more manpower to help offset the probability of more injuries.

  54. Sophocles says: Aug 26, 2010 1:56 AM

    “It’s funny, anytime I hear Goodell speak he claims fans are overwhelmingly for an 18 game season, yet at the time of this post the 5 visible comments all are against it.”
    ——————–
    “The players need to know that the fans stand with them in opposing this 18 game regular season gimmick!”
    ——————
    “EVERYTIME this is brought up on PFT, the fans are overwhelmingly against it.”
    ———————
    “The only people for this are the owners.”
    ———————
    “I guarantee fans would vote for 16 games…”
    ———————
    These comments are hysterical.
    There are about 2 million NFL season ticket holders. You can be sure that none of the authors of the above comments are among the 2 million, all of whom will benefit by the substitution of a home regular season game for a meaningless preseason game at full price.
    D’ya think that the NFL owners pay more attention to the paying fans, or to the freeloading couch potatoes? Actually, does the NFL pay ANY attention to the couch potatoes?
    Rise up! All ye couch potatoes! Have Florio lead the charge of a couch potatoes revolt against the NFL.

  55. ClownBurger says: Aug 26, 2010 2:47 AM

    Same amount of games.
    18 real ones. 2 fake ones.
    As opposed to 16 real ones and 4 fake ones.
    DUH!
    Give me 18 real and only 2 fake!
    How the hell could anyone have a problem with MORE football??
    YES! OWNERS! MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!

  56. Hang'em High says: Aug 26, 2010 3:52 AM

    How about a compromise?? 3 preseason games and 17 game season? The 4th preseason game is the worst of them all. Figure out a way to balance the home vs. Away issue.

  57. drk666 says: Aug 26, 2010 4:30 AM

    that’s funny.
    you guys will hate on this, because it’s Canadian, but, the CFL plays 18 games – and 2 pre-season.
    hate all you want, but you guys use us as an alternate farm system. and they make-maybe a quarter of the money your lowest paid players make.
    love of the game bitches!
    love of the game!

  58. FinsUp says: Aug 26, 2010 5:50 AM

    I’ve never met anyone who said, “you know I really enjoyed the NFL season, but I really wish there were 18 games rather than 16.”

  59. TDHawk says: Aug 26, 2010 6:01 AM

    I was all for this at first but now that I think about it I spend enough time watching the NFL and another two weeks would really get the wifey bitch’in, even though she’s a football fan too. However, an idea I like and that the players might actually support, is expanding the playoffs by a couple of teams/games. Regardless, nix two preseason games. Those are a rip-off to season ticket holders and coaches see enough tape to evaluate players. And look at how many seasons have gone poof due to major roster imploding injuries in the preseason.

  60. Buckethead says: Aug 26, 2010 6:36 AM

    18 games ruins the league . . Al Davis is turning over in his grave!

  61. jimr10 says: Aug 26, 2010 7:00 AM

    Seems to me, according to the posts on here, fans are overwhelmingly against and 18 games season. I encourage everyone that lives in an NFL city, to call the local team and express your opinion. Also bombard the NFL offices with e-mail, voice mail and snail mail to show your displeasure.

  62. 8man says: Aug 26, 2010 7:23 AM

    60minuteassassin says:
    August 25, 2010 9:47 PM
    Why don’t they just add more bye weeks? I realize that doesn’t help the consession stands and the ticket sales, but at least you’d have the advertisement dollars.
    ——————————————
    That’s what I’ve been saying. But they’d need to dump two of the preseason fiascos as well.
    They’d still get paid by the networks for a longer calendar season.

  63. The Real Shuxion says: Aug 26, 2010 8:31 AM

    They will keep 4 preseason games. That will mean 18 regular season and 4 preseason.
    22 in total.

  64. BroncoBourque says: Aug 26, 2010 8:42 AM

    To everyone complaining that players won’t be prepared or that guys at the bottom of the roster won’t have enough chances to prove themselves, YOU DON’T NEED PRESEASON GAMES FOR THOSE REASONS. Most if not all teams scrimmage against other teams now anyways, they just don’t charge fans and season ticket holders full price to come watch.
    Teams also don’t use the preseason games as the primary evaluation, they use the minicamps and training camp which are 50 times the sample size much more than the meaningless games. Pratices and scrimages also give the coaches the opportunity to manipulate scenerios so that they can can better evaluate players in a given role.
    As for the people who are complaining about injuries, look at all the injuries that have occured in the offseason, in training camp and now in the preseason. Players are going to get injured, it is just part of the game and if injuries are going to happen anyways it would be much better to have it happen in a meaningful game than the preseason.

  65. Complete Fan says: Aug 26, 2010 8:47 AM

    The CFL went to 18 games several years ago and it did not hurt the league one bit.

  66. pelion_panther says: Aug 26, 2010 8:50 AM

    Do you folks get information from any other sites? Do some research before you just begin blindly ranting about something that you apparently haven’t taken time to research and understand. Let’s address some of the reasons that 18 games would be so “terrible”. Injuries- NFL players will be injured. It happens every year. It happened when the league only played 10 games. It happens with 16 games. It will happen with 18. There will be more injuries as a natural result of two more regular season games. To address this issue the league already has plans to add an additional bye week and to increase roster size. The latter of these planned changes will address the second issue some of you seem to have, evaluating talent. How much stock do you really place in the current preseason format to evaluate “talent”

  67. jram says: Aug 26, 2010 9:07 AM

    18 games would be great, you just have to do it right. Get rid of pre-season altogether, add another bye week, expand the roster, expand the practice squad and make it harder for other teams to raid it and above all finally a developmental league – one tier with pretty much the same rules MLB has.

  68. Doctor Doom says: Aug 26, 2010 9:25 AM

    marktg30 says:
    August 25, 2010 9:33 PM
    16 Games is better than no football at all…
    Then again these guys all get paid about 100x’s more than they should…
    Screw’em all.
    ————————————————–
    Agreed.
    Makes me want to puke listening to the players want more money to play two more games “for real” when they make too much already for 16. Seriously. Give it a rest.

  69. BroncoBourque says: Aug 26, 2010 9:37 AM

    For everyone claiming it is obvious that the fans are against this because the majority of the people posting on here have been against it. ESPN has a poll up on there site asking what the ideal length of season is and so far 5,276 people have voted and these are the results;
    43 % for 18 regular season and 2 preseason
    8% for 18 regular season and 4 preseason
    34% for 16 regular season and 2 preseason
    15% for 16 regular season and 2 preseason
    as you can see 18 and 2 is the most popular option by a pretty wide margin.

  70. wrekOgnize says: Aug 26, 2010 9:54 AM

    Bad idea. Fewer games provides more meaning for each individual game. 16 games is plenty in determining who makes the playoffs. 18 games will increase the chance of injured players going into the playoffs also.

  71. Duan says: Aug 26, 2010 9:57 AM

    They need to expand the rosters and practice squad numbers for this!
    With a season that long – they need to be able to carry more men.
    With the 53 men on active roster and 6 on practice squad, that won’t cut it.
    Additionally, they need a farm league season – or basically they need to acquire the UFL as the farm league for teams. Have that season run from August until November, therefor keeping some of their players active and ready if they get called up.
    Just like baseball.

  72. edgy1957 says: Aug 26, 2010 11:12 AM

    drk666 says:
    you guys will hate on this, because it’s Canadian, but, the CFL plays 18 games – and 2 pre-season.
    *****************
    I love the CFL but don’t try to compare it to the NFL. The players aren’t as big as the guys in the NFL and they don’t take the kind of hits that they do in the NFL (It’s a 1/2 step above college football and 1 1/2 steps below the NFL).
    Also, what many people who keep bringing up the CFL’s 18 game schedule don’t know or want others to know is that roster sizes have increased and when you consider active roster, practice and injury squad, they’re nearly identical to the NFL roster size.

  73. Codebeard says: Aug 26, 2010 4:27 PM

    NJBoysFan says:
    August 25, 2010 10:03 PM
    Do we really want seasons to be decided in late Jan in P-Burg, Buffalo, etc weather? The NFL is now a high octane passing league, not a smash mouth one, I don’t want 10-7 games with QBs going 11-31 for 147yrds and such. /Rant.

    Hell yes I want that. I’m tired of all these pansies saying that Super Bowl games should always be played in either domes or southern cities. Eff that! Play them in cities like Chicago and New York. Of course a Cowboys fan doesn’t want games decided in that kind of weather, you’re a fan of a warm climate team. Ask a Giants, Packers, Bears, Ravens, Jets or Steelers fan where they’d rather a climactic game be played. Outside, in the cold, blowing snow, -20 wind chill. That’s real football.
    As for the topic, 18 games is fine, but you better be compensating the players for it. As is theyre’ already knocking about 20 years off their life for playing the game, and what little life they have after the end of it is normally hampered by the damage from playing the game. And for god’s sake, no more regular season games in Mexico or London.

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