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Cowlishaw declares victory, retreats

Wednesday has come and gone, and Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis has yet to sign a new contract with the Jets.  Saturday will be here soon, but the man who predicted that Revis would ink a blockbuster deal on either day (but, curiously, on neither of the two days in between) already is folding up the tent and preparing to move on.

Tim Cowlishaw of the Dallas Morning News and ESPN provided a half-hearted (hoof-hearted) mea culpa on Thursday, acknowledging the erroneous nature of his single-source Twitter reporting while claiming that, in the end, none of it matters because Revis will remain with the Jets.

Cowlishaw also came close to breaking out the patent-pending “it would have happened but the sh-tstorm created by my report threw it off track” excuse, explaining that “when this is over
and Revis has come to terms with the Jets, I may be able to
figure out why it didn’t happen as it was presented to me
.”

Cowlishaw justifies his blunder by pointing to a concept he calls “degress [sic] of ‘wrongness,’” which apparently is the journalistic equivalent of, “Yeah, I screwed up royally.  But at least I didn’t get charged with felony domestic violence in L.A. last weekend.”  In so doing, Cowlishaw offers up the, frankly, bizarre notion that his error wasn’t as bad as it would have been if he had reported that Revis would be playing for someone other than the Jets. 

“In Revis’
case,” Cowlishaw writes, “he isn’t going to sign with a rival like the Giants or the
Patriots.  This story is not going to have that unhappy of an ending for
Jets fans.  One way or another, new long-term megadeal like a Pittsburgh radio station reported Tuesday, or same old deal he already has in place, Revis is going to be a Jet.  We just don’t know the date.”

(Gee, I wish I would have thought of that one when we passed along erroneous reports of Terry Bradshaw’s death a few years ago.  After all, Bradshaw eventually will be deceased.  We just don’t know the date.)

Whatever happened to simply owning an error, apologizing for it, and moving on?  (Curiously, the words “apology” or “sorry” or “regret” appear nowhere in Cowlishaw’s latest offering.)  It’s one thing to explain the circumstances surrounding the mistake (like we did with Bradshaw when pointing out that we were simply passing along published reports that Bradshaw had passed away, which reports originated from multiple media outlets in Shreveport, where an accident had occurred on the “Terry Bradshaw Passway“).  It’s another thing to explain why the mistake wasn’t as bad of a mistake as it could have been if the mistake had related to something that wasn’t already widely believed to be inevitable.

In this case, most league observers believe that Revis inevitably will be a Jet.  But the key question for a franchise that faces in the first three regular-season games the Ravens and Anquan Boldin, the Patriots and Randy Moss, and the Dolphins and Brandon Marshall is whether they’ll do so with or without Revis on the field.  Thus, the timing of Revis’ return takes on a great deal of significance, and any suggestion that he’ll be showing up in the short term will create, as it did on Sunday after Cowlishaw’s Twitter report, a feeding frenzy. 

The nonchalance Cowlishaw displays in defeat mirrors the manner in which he first arrived on the Revis scene.  Cowlishaw heard something from a source whom Cowlishaw claims had never been wrong before, and then Cowlishaw casually dropped a hand grenade into the middle of a high-stakes story that has kept the nerves of all Jets fans frayed for weeks.  He did so with no apparent understanding of the depth of the impasse or the nature of the issues or the content of the offers; indeed, if Cowlishaw had been following the story closely, his instincts would have told him — as ours told us — that it’s highly unlikely that anyone would know on Sunday that the controversy would be wrapped up neatly and cleanly within a matter of days, like the unexpected twist that comes out of the blue in the last two minutes of an episode of a sitcom.

So Cowlishaw’s biggest error wasn’t being wrong.  He erred most grievously in underestimating the size, importance, and nuances of the story — and in not realizing that any suggestion that Revis would soon be reporting would instantly become huge news in the nation’s No. 1 media market, and in most of the rest of them.

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61 Responses to “Cowlishaw declares victory, retreats”
  1. i hate florio says: Aug 26, 2010 9:51 PM

    cool real tough florio

  2. wheresrickysanders says: Aug 26, 2010 9:52 PM

    Florio declares victory and makes his longest entry ever. This isn’t even a story.

  3. Peester15 says: Aug 26, 2010 9:52 PM

    This is great news Florio..maybe you can sleep tonight.

  4. ultimateweapon says: Aug 26, 2010 9:53 PM

    He’s from Dallas, nothing more needs to be said..

  5. 9to19 says: Aug 26, 2010 9:55 PM

    Florio, do you have short-man syndrome?
    Be honest.

  6. WildBirdOffense says: Aug 26, 2010 9:58 PM

    So let me get this straight. A shitferbrains “journalist” is criticizing another shitferbrains “journalist” — only in America.

  7. JaggedMark says: Aug 26, 2010 10:01 PM

    You may twitter Tim Cowlishaw
    @ImCowlishawAndISuck

  8. jjared1101 says: Aug 26, 2010 10:02 PM

    Holy Tim Teabow Christ…..
    …..why do you care about what one journalist claimed? Did Cowlishaw bully you as a kid or something?
    You seem to care more about this than Jets fans do. Cowlishaw is right. He’s going to remain with the Jets no matter what. So he didn’t predict when a player would sign a contract.
    He must be the first journalist ever to not give accurate information…..

  9. jcjets says: Aug 26, 2010 10:03 PM

    Never heard of him before this. Guess he’s just a small fish that wondered into an ocean.

  10. agenice says: Aug 26, 2010 10:04 PM

    At least he put up a mea culpa… I have NEVER seen this site do that.

  11. TheSleepness says: Aug 26, 2010 10:07 PM

    and what if he signs saturday?

  12. Alvah Goldbook says: Aug 26, 2010 10:13 PM

    Oh but to see a small straw in other’s eye and yet not to notice the log in your own. Florio, you publish garbage 50% of the time and the rest of the sports media is kind enough to ignore it. Please remember the golden rule as many kids get on the internets.

  13. jjared1101 says: Aug 26, 2010 10:15 PM

    (Curiously, the words “apology” or “sorry” or “regret” appear nowhere in Cowlishaw’s latest offering.)
    Exactly what does he have to apologize for. He reported what information he was given (just like you do all the time; right or wrong), and it’s up to you to believe him or not. He has to apologize for this about as much as you apologized for claiming the Redskins Super Bowl favorites last year. A failed prediction doesn’t warrant apologies.

  14. Mel Kiper IV says: Aug 26, 2010 10:23 PM

    Hilarious that Manning is losing it on National TV because of the….referee? Ha! Don’t even consider him for fantasy – he’s melting down and it’s only preseason! He’s like a spoiled little brat out there. Unreal! I’m still waiting for him to stomp his foot and shit his diapers! The way he’s acting, it won’t be long now.

  15. malpine says: Aug 26, 2010 10:28 PM

    Good lord, man…move on!

  16. jjared1101 says: Aug 26, 2010 10:30 PM

    “He did so with no apparent understanding of the depth of the impasse or the nature of the issues or the content of the offers”
    Don’t make this more than it is. A guy, who plays a sport, wants more money, and a guy, who owns the team, doesn’t want to pay him more. It’s not an in-depth issue that has serious impacts on the course of our society.
    …….how do i reach these keeeeedzzzzzz…………..

  17. CHIEF ZEE says: Aug 26, 2010 10:32 PM

    @ i hate florio
    You should feel blessed that I actually read one of your comments. I’m so used to just noticing your avatar and skipping over whatever your worthless a** has to say. Everything I have ever read from you has been nothing but trite, useless bulls**t. I shouldn’t even be wasting my time replying to you, but I thought that you should know right now how much I loathe you. You are piece of s**t. You are a f***ing stain on the world. You think you are witty, but you haven’t even reached the title of pseudo-intellectual. You spend hours on this website doing nothing but wasting your time and you should feel extremely embarrassed for doing so. I really hope that you don’t leave and get yourself a life…you don’t f***ing deserve one. I hope you stay here on this website, commenting and making an a** out of yourself, for the rest of your miserable life. Stay here and rot, you pathetic f***ing dweeb.

  18. Percy Nugz says: Aug 26, 2010 10:34 PM

    is it lonely up their on your pedestal Florio?

  19. KoaMisiFan says: Aug 26, 2010 10:36 PM

    All this is getting to be really boring. But gotta say I got a good chuckle from this:
    “(Gee, I wish I would have thought of that one when we passed along erroneous reports of Terry Bradshaw’s death a few years ago. After all, Bradshaw eventually will be deceased. We just don’t know the date.)”

  20. In & Out Burger says: Aug 26, 2010 10:38 PM

    “I’m sorry I said Revis had died. It was a gross mistake that no journalist should ever make.”
    Oh wait, he didn’t say Revis was dead, he said he might sign a contract.

  21. BigBear123 says: Aug 26, 2010 10:39 PM

    Victory is getting a bunch of publicity and became a household name for a lot of Jets fans.
    He is just another victim in a society of victims, no one ever takes responsibility for their actions, it is always someone else’s fault.

  22. Milhouse says: Aug 26, 2010 10:47 PM

    “Whatever happened to simply owning an error, apologizing for it, and moving on? (Curiously, the words “apology” or “sorry” or “regret” appear nowhere in Cowlishaw’s latest offering.) It’s one thing to explain the circumstances surrounding the mistake”
    Until this site lives up to the same standards, you really ought not harp on others. Instead of deleting erroneous reports and hoping nobody notices, you ought to own up to them and (as you did with Terry Bradshaw) laugh about it.
    How IS Channing Crowder’s foot these days?

  23. Psychonolfi says: Aug 26, 2010 10:53 PM

    “Holy Tim Tebow Christ!”
    great line jjared!

  24. harloeisdead says: Aug 26, 2010 10:54 PM

    HOW DO I REEEEACH THESE KEEDZ?!

  25. Hawkeye says: Aug 26, 2010 11:18 PM

    How bout dem Cowboy journalist.

  26. i hate florio says: Aug 26, 2010 11:31 PM

    @ Chief ZEE
    I think you might have down syndrome cuz i signed up literally 4 days ago and have commented about 3 times

  27. rkell21 says: Aug 26, 2010 11:48 PM

    Cowlishaw:
    “DONOVAN MCNABB WILL MISS THE REST OF THE SEASON!!”
    (3 weeks later when he starts the 1st game)
    “but the important thing is mcnabb is playing, and will be a Redskin for years. And my reporting about his ankle magically healed it, so that’s why he’s playing in the first place. No harm, no foul.”

  28. Dustin Chandler says: Aug 26, 2010 11:49 PM

    soo professional is this guy Florio…
    *face palm*

  29. kingaling says: Aug 26, 2010 11:51 PM

    Mike Florio…. C’mon Son getdaf#ckouttaherewitdatbullsh*t

  30. NYJALLFINGDAY says: Aug 26, 2010 11:55 PM

    @CHIEF ZEE
    u mad
    No seriously calm down, you’re gonna have a heart attack buddy.

  31. mwcarolina says: Aug 27, 2010 12:02 AM

    this is a story for what reason!!!??? everyone makes a mistake, PFT did one time when they thought the Redskins signed Tony Pashos, Cowlishaw made a mistake, i am sure it’s not the first or the last and the same goes for Florio, Clayton, Clark Judge, or any sports reporter.

  32. Bradwins says: Aug 27, 2010 12:05 AM

    I mean….I guess I agree that Cowlishaw sucks as a reporter. On the other hand, making it seem like missing on a report about a defensive back’s contract is tantamount to prematurely reporting that the Israelis and Palestinians had come to an agreement about a two-state solution is a bit absurd.
    I’m not quite sure why you had to burn a few thousand words to admonish Cowlishaw. Yeah, he’s super-simple bumpkin that does not know much. Everyone already knew that, though. You look like a whiney jerkoff with this War And Peace of media ethics lectures.

  33. dabbflappy says: Aug 27, 2010 12:22 AM

    I’m trying to figure out why you’re so obsessed with this Cowlick guy.
    Honestly, who gives a f***?
    It’s not like it’s the first time anyone ever got something wrong.
    Just ask Terry Bradshaw’s mortician.

  34. habibfromnewdehli says: Aug 27, 2010 12:52 AM

    Way to point out who the Jets play in the first 3 games.
    1. Marshall has no QB to get him the ball.
    2. Boldin’s QB has an arm, but no vision or ability to recognize where/when a blitz is coming.
    3. The Patriots can’t stop the run at all, so Shonn Greene can demolish the Patriots by himself, while keeping Patriots offense off the field.
    4. The Jets defense is going to be fine even if Revis doesn’t play. Cromartie and Kyle Wilson are plenty capable of stopping opponent’s receivers enough to win the game. They’re not going to be able to stop the Jets blitzes that often.

  35. bigbolt says: Aug 27, 2010 12:52 AM

    Not a good week for “Around The Horn”….

  36. Wick says: Aug 27, 2010 1:25 AM

    “He did so with no apparent understanding of the depth of the impasse or the nature of the issues or the content of the offers.”
    Maybe some segment of society is utterly appalled with Cowlishaw’s reporting in this instance.
    But it HAS to be a very small segment — it’s just hard to imagine the majority of folks are so tightly wound up about it. It kind of falls under the who gives a rat’s ass column?
    It’s kind of a foreign concept to me (and perhaps others) how journalists are so hell bent on being the first with the story … just nanoseconds before the next twenty-eight sources roll in with the same story — or better yet, chubbing up when later able to pile on any of their brethren who gets caught shitting their pants with a failed scoop.
    It just kind of seems petty, and even a bit catty — not unlike the kind of gossipy piffle 55 year old office hens revolve their whole miserable soul-less lives around.
    And it sure as hell doesn’t sound manly – hard to imagine Clint Eastwood launching into an arms-flailing hissy fit over.
    Though not a Texan and with limited exposure to Cowlishaw’s offerings, I can say I find the guy to be an affable and good-natured figure — not someone worthy of sheer contempt. Not for this.

  37. ctw500 says: Aug 27, 2010 2:09 AM

    Every time I think PFT is turning the corner into becoming a legitimate NFL source, articles like this comes up that make me question how far it has really come. I mean, yes, Cowlishaw was wrong in his report obviously. Since he put his reputation on the line to some degree by hitching his wagon to anonymous sources, he absolutely deserves some of the blame as well. However, I’m still confused about why exactly you are so upset about this situation. It’s not like the sources you use on this site are always beyond reproach, or that you haven’t broken/listed stories that later turned out to be untrue. Plenty of heavy hitters in the sports journalism industry have missed in spectacular fashion even over just the past few months, yet this is the first circumstance I can remember you going after one of them so personally and with so much venom.
    The reader is left to wonder what your stake is in all of this, and if there is some hidden agenda for you presenting this issue in such a confrontational manner instead of reporting/spinning the story like usual…

  38. YouFools says: Aug 27, 2010 5:01 AM

    @habib
    Their blitzes wont be as affective without revis shutting down half the football field. Imagine they had revis…

  39. houstonsimpleton says: Aug 27, 2010 7:04 AM

    And now Florio knows what Dallas knows. This post is surprising only for its “degrees of engagement”. Really significant to Florio, is Cowlishaw. (I like associating those names in the same breath — Florio, Cowlishaw, Florio, Cowlishaw, Cowlishaw, Florio)
    But anyway, what was surprising was Florio in his first post, saying “Cowlishaw’s good”.
    Um, what?
    If Florio had looked at Cowlishaw closely, his eyes and instincts would have told him what ours do in Dallas, about Cowlishaw; that it’s highly unlikely Cowlishaw would be a serious source about anything.
    If Florio hadn’t overestimated the size, importance, and nuances of Cowlishaw and his columns, this two-bit local dummy wouldn’t have inspired Florio’s biggest and most earnest degree of blogposting he’s undertaken since NBC took him over.

  40. marktg30 says: Aug 27, 2010 7:05 AM

    He is a journalist.. That is at least 3 steps above you Florio… A-Hole

  41. Nanny D. says: Aug 27, 2010 7:27 AM

    LOLOLOLOL at this site, out of any site, bitching about a single source story or post being inaccurate. HAHAHAHAHAHA! AHAHAHAHAHA! For real, hahahahahahahaha!

  42. OranjelloJones says: Aug 27, 2010 8:02 AM

    “Whatever happened to simply owning an error, apologizing for it, and moving on? (Curiously, the words “apology” or “sorry” or “regret” appear nowhere in Cowlishaw’s latest offering.) ”
    Ahhh you mean like you did when you screwed the pooch 3 years in a row calling for Joe Gibbs to move on? Oh wait, you never did.
    Gotcha…
    The blind squirrel does indeed occasionally find a nut though I guess. Gibbs did eventually step down, so technically you were right even though it took 4 years for your prediction to pan out. So I can see why you’re zeroing in on that take from Cowlishaw…after all you’re a veteran of its use Mike.
    Wick consider the source…this mock outrage from Florio is more than little silly coming from a guy who goes out of his way to cry foul and have a hissy fit if -God forbid- someone mentions something gleaned from his site and doesn’t polish his knob with an overabundance of credit. He writes “Look at me! Look at me!” in response posts with frequency, it’d be amusing if it wasn’t so pathetic and needy.
    You’re right, outside of Florio and the occasional numbers obsessed Jets fan who really gives a crap about this? Cowlishaw is probably laughing at how much this is firing up Florio, I guarantee he’s not sweating the heat from it.

  43. Paracelsus says: Aug 27, 2010 8:07 AM

    And your apology for passing on the Favre rumor where he was doing a Sean Salisbury was posted where? But of course, it was the other guy that should apologize, you perform your own justification.

  44. Opie says: Aug 27, 2010 8:29 AM

    @ Wick: it is very hard to understand that is true enough. Think back to your younger days and all the little chicas complaining about what you meant by what you said = Cornflorio.
    Most of these guys (journalists, bloggers, reporters, editors, etc.) were not athletes, did not play team sports, and found their niche “reporting” on those that did. Now, enter Cornflorio.
    Hypocritical & grand exaggerater extraordinare.
    @ Cornflorio: how’s Channing Crowder and Steve Smith doing these days? You’ve only got about a week to bitch slap Steve while his arm is in a cast…….

  45. Kappy says: Aug 27, 2010 9:18 AM

    habibfromnewdehli says:
    August 27, 2010 12:52 AM
    Way to point out who the Jets play in the first 3 games.
    1. Marshall has no QB to get him the ball.
    2. Boldin’s QB has an arm, but no vision or ability to recognize where/when a blitz is coming.
    3. The Patriots can’t stop the run at all, so Shonn Greene can demolish the Patriots by himself, while keeping Patriots offense off the field.
    4. The Jets defense is going to be fine even if Revis doesn’t play. Cromartie and Kyle Wilson are plenty capable of stopping opponent’s receivers enough to win the game. They’re not going to be able to stop the Jets blitzes that often.
    ———————————————————————————-
    I love how all of a sudden Jets fans think they know football. Did you not watch Chad Henne torch the Jets secondary last year? How much have you watched of Joe Flacco to know how he recognizes & reacts to the blitz? Most of all, what are your scouting credentials?
    1. Chad Henne is better than Mark Sanchez. Chad Henne to Ted Ginn Jr., yes him, right through Revis Island for a touchdown. Chad Henne vs Jets last year: 2-0 record; 32-47, 253 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT, 108 RTG. Marshal has a hell of a lot better QB than Edwards and Holmes do.
    2. Once again, Joe Flacco is better than Mark Sanchez. Boldin is the most physical WR the Jets will face. Cromartie is soft, Wilson is a rookie. The Jets couldn’t get to the QB last year for anything & Jason Taylor will not change that. A 4-3 DE is not a 3-4 OLB (See Vernon Gholston). The Ravens might have the best OL in the AFC to boot. The Jets only hope vs the Ravens is Revis because the Ravens will run between the tackles, where the Jets are weak, then go over the top with PA while Cromartie is giving Boldin 10 yards of cushion because he’s scared to mix it up with him.
    3. The Jets running game was good last year but this is a new year. They lost Faneca, Damien Woody sucks & they replaced a 1400 yard, 10 TD back with an unknown and a post-prime HOFer. Shonne Greene was the featured back for 4 weeks and got hurt against the soft Colts D. He may be good, but not hhis year, not now. He’s not CJ or AP where he will be a top back 1st year featured. He’s not as good as Ray Rice & it took Ray Rice 3 years to break out. Also, the Pats D was banged up & inexperienced last year. Not to mention, their coach happens to be one of the greatest defensive minds ever in the NFL. As for the Pats O, they won’t need much time on the field to put up points against the Jets without Revis. Year 2 after a knee injury is the comeback year & once again, Cromartie is soft & Wilson is a rookie from a small school. Who is going to match up with the Pats 3, 4 & 5 WR? Drew Coleman? Dwight Lowry? I sure hope you’re not depending on the Jets’ 2′s who were torched by Jim Sorgi and Victor Cruz to stop Tom Brady & Co. If so, you’re in for a long season, buddy.
    4. The Jets Defense will not be fine if Revis doesn’t play. He takes an entire 1/3-1/2 of the field out of play for the opposing offense when he’s on the field. There’s a reason why Cromartie was traded for nothing & its not because he’s knocked up half the female population on the west coast. The Jets have no pash rush, they never have. They’re weak up the middle & soft on the ends without Revis. Revis made that defense, not Rex Ryan, not Bart Scott. The worst thing a fan can do is overvalue their team, especially a consistent bunch of losers like the Jets. It leads to nothing but misery & disappointment.

  46. kovvboyzfan says: Aug 27, 2010 9:39 AM

    @ Chief Zee
    Oh no he di’int!!!!

  47. Marcinik07 says: Aug 27, 2010 9:44 AM

    What’s Florio’s beef with this guy lol???

  48. Scooby_Doo says: Aug 27, 2010 9:45 AM

    Seriously…shouldn’t PFT be better than this?
    More and more this site is getting hard to take seriously.

  49. Brick-Pride says: Aug 27, 2010 9:47 AM

    If you’re a Jets fan, please let this “reporter” know what you think about him.
    wtcowlishaw@dallasnews.com

  50. Manbearpig says: Aug 27, 2010 10:10 AM

    Whatever happened to simply owning an error, apologizing for it, and moving on?
    Yeah, because you always own up to your mistakes. You are worse than Cowlishaw. At least he reported erroneous info from an anonymous source after hearing it firsthand. You consistently publish erroneous information from anonymous sources who tell other “journalists” the supposed “inside info.” For example, Vikings schism? Well, we are reporting that Adam Schefter is reporting that an anonymous Viking told him there was a schism in the Vikings locker room. I’m guessing that one might have been false, since the whole team essentially begged Favre to come back this year. Where’s the apology??? I imagine it could have gone something like this:
    We apologize for regurgitating the erroneous report from Adam Schefter that an anonymous Viking told him there was a schism in the locker room. We are owning this error, and moving on.

  51. SomeFans says: Aug 27, 2010 10:27 AM

    @ habib- better stick with something you know… football isn’t it.
    I really feel sorry for revis- stuck on the crap franchise. He deserves better.

  52. whodey1 says: Aug 27, 2010 10:29 AM

    Hoooowwww do I reeeeaaacchhh these keeeeeedzzzzzzzzzzz

  53. cacaw410 says: Aug 27, 2010 10:31 AM

    florio you are a supreme douchebag in every sense of the word.
    you want a personal apology?
    “But why and how things unraveled doesn’t matter. It’s my mistake. I was wrong…”
    Oh wait, admitting that you’re wrong? That’s not good enough! Cowlishaw didn’t use the word “apology” or “sorry”!
    “Doesn’t matter. The person who writes the story (or Tweet) is the one responsible. So what happened in this case is irrelevant. It’s on me. ”
    Wait, you still didn’t say “sorry” and you forgot to mention Florio by name! You must say that he is the best sports journalist that ever lived!
    That’s bitch-made man. All the little references to how you do things the right way–”like we did”, “as ours told us”–are cocky bullshit.
    Remember when you reported that Russ Grimm was a lock for the Steelers job (ha you even said it was going to happen “eventually”), and then posted a flurry of reports explaining why your initial report was incorrect? That’s one of many instances over the years where you report something inaccurate and then proceed to explain ad nauseum why it’s not your fault. This kind of back-tracking goes on everyday, and Cowlishaw is not the only guilty of it.

  54. Fins Suck says: Aug 27, 2010 10:34 AM

    @Kappy
    . The Jets Defense will not be fine if Revis doesn’t play. He takes an entire 1/3-1/2 of the field out of play for the opposing offense when he’s on the field. There’s a reason why Cromartie was traded for nothing & its not because he’s knocked up half the female population on the west coast. The Jets have no pash rush, they never have. They’re weak up the middle & soft on the ends without Revis. Revis made that defense, not Rex Ryan, not Bart Scott. The worst thing a fan can do is overvalue their team, especially a consistent bunch of losers like the Jets. It leads to nothing but misery & disappointment.
    ——————–
    So obviously when a Jet fan says something he has no credentials but when u post a long, completely inaccurate post it is just a perfectly scouted story right? And talk about over evaluating a team haha you talk about the Ravens worse than some Jet fans praise the Jets!! Ray Rice is obviously god to you and Flacco is the next Elway. To say the Jets can’t get sacks is real funny because that just shows me right there you have no idea what you are talking about. Raven fans aren’t even fun to argue with because they are more delusional than some of us (Jet Fans) and they aren’t even nearly as close to being as good as the Jets could be this year. Bring me KoaMisiFan at least he’s fun to argue with because he knows what he’s talking about (for the most part) haha

  55. KoaMisiFan says: Aug 27, 2010 10:39 AM

    “The worst thing a fan can do is overvalue their team, especially a consistent bunch of losers like the Jets. It leads to nothing but misery & disappointment.”
    —————————————-
    You’d think they would be used to that by now.

  56. Curtis Martin's HOF Speech says: Aug 27, 2010 10:46 AM

    @ Kappy
    I was just trying to figure out how Kris Jenkins, David Harris and Bart Scott = “weak up the middle”. And FYI, 2009 was Ray Rice’s second year. Take off the Jets hating goggles and try to be a little more objective.

  57. buckifan4life says: Aug 27, 2010 10:52 AM

    Cowlishaw is as much a narcissist as Lebron James. I used to listen to “the herd”, but I just can’t stand his “I know it all” mentality. I also found, when he was wrong he would either not discuss it or have some sort of an excuse outside of just being wrong.

  58. Curtis Martin's HOF Speech says: Aug 27, 2010 11:08 AM

    @ SomeFans
    Can you say “Jet for life”? Because that’s what Revis is gonna be once he signs, so get used to it.

  59. Fins Suck says: Aug 27, 2010 2:04 PM

    It’s official .. Ravens fans are officially dumber than Dolphins fans and that is not an easy task!
    Henne > Elway
    Rice > Walter Payton

  60. KoaMisiFan says: Aug 27, 2010 4:19 PM

    But not to fret Ravens fans, because you’ll never be dumber than jests fans.
    Sancheezy

  61. cragdragon says: Aug 28, 2010 10:21 AM

    The other side SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

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