The Vikings could be more of a run-first team this year.
With Vikings C John Sullivan injured, Anthony Herrera moved from RG and rookie Chris DeGeare stepped up into Herrera’s spot.
Rookie CB Chris Cook made a good case to join the starting lineup.
Vikings rookie RB Toby Gerhart left the game with a knee injury in the third quarter; he called his exit “precautionary.”
New Vikings WR Greg Camarillo, who was badly overthrown on a play that ended in an interception, admits that deep routes aren’t his strength.
When the Metrodome opened in 1983, it wasn’t air conditioned.
Seahawks WR Deon Branch could be finally ready to make a contribution, four years after arriving via trade.
The Seahawks were happy to hold the Vikings to 10 points through three quarters.
DT Brandon Mebane and DE Chris Clemons performed very well for the Seattle defensive line.
RB Leon Washington got his first start for the Seahawks, but he rushed for only 16 yards.
Seattle WR Mike Williams continues to nail down a roster spot, generating 54 yards on three catches.
Run first team ? With what?
Other than one lucky run of 24 yards, Peterson averaged only 1.3 yards a carry.
They do not have an O-line that is very good.
Don’t take Peterson in you fantasy drafts!
Oh yeah,
I’d much rather take Grant and his upright running and the backing of the powerhouse Packer line.
Grant won’t last the season and the line and it’s inability speaks for itself.
You better hope Rodgers remains upright after that porous line gets going.
“If I had my druthers, we’d be a run-first team,” offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell said. “You start to build around the skills you have. All of a sudden last year we had a plethora of receivers and tight ends and backs, and that’s what we went with.
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Uh huh….run first last year too until Brett changed it his way…which coincides nicely with losing 3 out of the last 4 regular season games and a “trying way too hard to be the hero” mistake in the NFC Championship game. Last year was run first until it simply wasn’t anymore. Gosh, I wonder how that happened? The Vikings will win as long as Brett plays for the Vikings and not vice-versa. My guess is that he will be going for broke a lot….last season/last chance sort of thing.
Bob, you continue to be the biggest tool on here. Do us all a favor and drink bleach.
Thanks for the heads up about the metrodome air conditioning. Really helps with the team insights.
Lol…wow some AMAZING INFORMATION you got there mike.
the air conditioning comment LMAO somthing you’d only read about on PROFOOTBALLTALK.
can you tell us what direction the wind was blowin on game time in 1983 mike?
Bob Nelson kind of has a point. If it weren’t for AP’s sensational back breaking TD plays he wouldn’t be that great of a running back. Fortunately for us he is amazing though.
Vikes looked really rusty on offense but flashed explosiveness. This is identical to how they looked in last season’s third preseason game actually. They were poor in the red zone. Obviously Berrian’s tip into the arms of a Seahawks defender was a big fluky play that made the score indicate the starters playing an even game. It really wasn’t though.
Vikes dominated time of possession and yardage, big time. Berrian’s blunder was the single play that hurt them score wise. Of course the Hawks missing a FG helped. Vikes went for it on 4th and 2 which in the reg season guaranteed they kick the chip shot.
Vikings were poor in the red zone, an area of tremendous strength last season. I’d say that is due to lack of practice time together with the two new WR’s. Vikes defense held the Seahawks first team offense to 6 points in nearly 3 quarters of play, so certainly that was the best aspect of the game.
This Seahawks offense has been scoring well on other teams so that part was encouraging. The Cook and Gerhart injuries suck but looked very minor. Maybe rookies not yet understanding what “hurt” is in the NFL.
AP looked awesome catching passes. He said he worked all offseason on that. I think teams are in for a surprise from the back who many critics say can’t handle third downs. I mean, he looked sick on his screens and swing passes.
Gerhart looks great in short yardage. He finds a little crease and really forces in there. He has nice hands but looks too slow and lacks the patience in the passing game so I really didn’t like how he looked there. Albert Young looks, pretty weak to be honest.
Reynaud looks sick. They didn’t use him in the RB situations this time much but I’m excited about him. Dark horse playmaker.
Harvin is fine. Nice to see that. Camarillo is going to be a nice third down WR. Jury is still out on Walker but that TD catch was pretty meastly.
Our offensive line looks absolutely dreadful at times. On a few plays they dominated and they don’t necessarily get pushed back but there are too many whiffs basically. Sullivan has been hurt a long time and I’m wondering what is the deal with that guy. Hopefully he can play in the reg season. Early oline play can derail a team and that is by far and away the biggest concern.
All and all I liked what I saw. Offense needs to blow more rust out in the passing game but they have playmakers and Brett looked healthy. O line needs to elevate its game though. Paul Allen the other day was defending them saying he couldn’t come up with 5 better lines in the whole NFL. I say this as a Vikes fan that right now I think there are 25 or 30 better lines in the NFL.
This preseason the Vikings have more runs for less than one yard than more than one yard, and by a large margin. Many negative ones too. Part of this is their scheme which “lures” some defenders into the backfield to go for huge gains. I realize they will have more big runs and less small decent runs as a result. But it is too extreme right now.
Seattle WR Mike Williams is going to give the Hawks a HUGE red zone target!!
Ambrose says:
“Uh huh….run first last year too until Brett changed it his way…which coincides nicely with losing 3 out of the last 4 regular season games and a “trying way too hard to be the hero” mistake in the NFC Championship game. Last year was run first until it simply wasn’t anymore. Gosh, I wonder how that happened? The Vikings will win as long as Brett plays for the Vikings and not vice-versa. My guess is that he will be going for broke a lot….last season/last chance sort of thing.”
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Ambrose, it’s very kind of you to be concerned, but even with Favre slinging the ball all over the field, Peterson and Taylor quietly contributed 1,721 yards. Not a bad days work, don’t you think?
Ryan Grant is a serviceable running back – grinding out 80 yards a game – but he’s not going to frighten anybody.
Not like the way the Packers fear Peterson and game planned to stop him at all cost. How’d that work out for you? It just exposed your secondary, and Farve picked it apart, causing the Packers to lose both games. And this year the Packer defense looks even more porous than that disastrous Arizona game. Better get your own house in order because Adrian Peterson, and the entire NFC East are already salivating.
Bob Nelson says:
Run first team ? With what?
Other than one lucky run of 24 yards, Peterson averaged only 1.3 yards a carry.
They do not have an O-line that is very good.
Don’t take Peterson in you fantasy drafts!
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Gosh, thanks for the handy tip, Bob! We’ll take that beast Ryan Grant… he’s putting up monster numbers!
Yawn, ya got anything else?
rcunningham says:
Bob, you continue to be the biggest tool on here. Do us all a favor and drink bleach.
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I think it’s pretty obvious he already did…
I see Bob Nelson is still stalking Vike fans!! Did a Vike fan go @ss to mouth with his wife while he was in jail for fking his sisters cat or something?
What gives Bob Nelson?
Ryan Grant is an overated scrub who grinds out 80yds a game while facing dime defenses (thats 7 in the box Bob Nelson) on every down…
saintsfan66 says:
I see Bob Nelson is still stalking Vike fans!! Did a Vike fan go @ss to mouth with his wife while he was in jail for fking his sisters cat or something?
What gives Bob Nelson?
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Actually Bob is a big fan of A2M (he works as a salad tosser at the Brett Favre Steakhouse after all).
The aforementioned cat incident was knocked down to a single misdemeanor count of “following too close”. Lucky for Bob, he knew how to get ahold of Chmura’s lawyer.
saintsfan66 says:
Ryan Grant is an overated scrub who grinds out 80yds a game while facing dime defenses (thats 7 in the box Bob Nelson) on every down…
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Congratulations on winning the Superbowl!
# saintsfan66 says: August 29, 2010 8:29 PM
Ryan Grant is an overated scrub who grinds out 80yds a game while facing dime defenses (thats 7 in the box Bob Nelson) on every down…
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He is better than any of the overrated buffoons your team is running against dime defenses.
Difference is the Packers only gave up a 6th round pick for Grant. Where did the Saints pick Bush again?
“What gives Bob Nelson?”
bob nelson is the person i would be most frightened to have to actually meet in the real world of any blog i have ever been on. who knows what’s wrong with him but he’s definitely got a condition of some kind.
he could be an elephant man that’s being kept locked up in a cage somewhere screaming “i am not an animal, i am a human being! when you subtract adrian peterson’s 24 yard run from his rushing totals in game 3 of the preseason, he only averaged 1.3 yards a carry!!! i am not an animal!!!”
Don’t mind Bob…. He just likes to think the Packers are perfect is all. You know, like Jones and Nelson are pro bowlers just waiting for Driver to retire. He would take Josh Sitton over Jahri Evans any day. That kind of ignorant homerism….
“You better hope Rodgers remains upright after that porous line gets going.”
Are you referring to the 4,100 yards and 35 total TD’s Rodgers put up last year….while being sacked a total of 50 times (most in the NFL last year).
You Viking buffoons never cease to amaze.
Oh, and Dial-a-Moron…..you do realize that the Packers have been without at least 5 starters on defense in every pre-season game this year…don’t you? Oh, and it is also preseason. But alas, I would expect nothing less from a Vikings scumbag such as yourself…who have been crowned preseason paper champions for the last…..15 years. Good job.
Packers are not perfect….however it eats away at Vikings honks to think that the Packers may be just as good as the Vikings…even with the walk on water false Jesus Favre throwing the ball around the joint.
Enjoy Karma again Vikings losers…..it’s coming.
bob probably isn’t an axe murderer but I wouldn’t put the secret room past him with thousands of pictures and newspapers cuts outs of viking players from the past 50 years
J Dub,
Reading your post it is clear that you are a complete and total douche bag in addition to being clueless on the subject of football. Seriously.
Packers O-line cost them a chance of even contending for the division, as they were already buried week 8. Vikings beat the Packers twice by sacking Rodgers over and over. Yet you dismiss it because Rodgers had good numbers despite 50 sacks (sacks by the way do not hurt your QB rating or passing yards).
You call Vikings fans scumbags? Odd choice of word there. Taking it a bit serious I’d think. You make up crap about the Packers being down 5 starters every game when in fact they were only out Clay Mathews the last game. (News flash Bigby and Harris are not starters anymore).
Then you talk about how we are preseason paper champs when it was your club now for the third preseason in a row absolutely lighting up the preseason world and getting chubbies over it. And if your team again fails to win the North it will be the third season in a row that the Packers were the most impressive preseason team in the NFL only to finish mediocre or worse on the reg season.
You guys have a decent looking team. But until that team with Rodgers and Co does anything noteworthy whatsoever other than preseason and against mediocre reg season games you don’t have a right to be so damn cocky about them.
J Dub says:
You Viking buffoons never cease to amaze.
“Oh, and Dial-a-Moron…..you do realize that the Packers have been without at least 5 starters on defense in every pre-season game this year…don’t you”?
Gosh, I work hard at being a moron, I am so flattered you took notice. Have you ever heard of injury reports? It turns out that every team in the NFL has starters out because of injury.
For the Vikings, it’s the offensive starters who are injured. Sidney Rice, John Sullivan, Percy Harvin are out or have missed all of training camp for the Vikings. Brett Favre didn’t even show up until training camp was half over. So the press is reporting the Viking offense has issues – I’d say they are right, because I am not in denial.
For the Packers, it’s defensive starters who are injured (the most notable are Al Harris and Atari Bigby. So the press are reporting the Packer Defense has issues – based not only those injuries but the way the Packer defense ended the season last year in Arizona. I’d say they are right.
Are you in agreement- or in denial?
“…But alas, I would expect nothing less from a Vikings scumbag such as yourself…”
Now is that nice?
“Packers are not perfect….however it eats away at Vikings honks to think that the Packers may be just as good as the Vikings…even with the walk on water false Jesus Favre throwing the ball around the joint.”
Actually this “honk” (what is a honk by the way? Is it like a young honkey?) thinks the Packers are just as good as the Vikings – on Offense. Aaron Rodgers is a star, and when he and Jermichael Finley are clicking – it’s a deadly combination.
However… I think the Packer obsession with shutting down Peterson at all costs is a big flaw in their game planning… and ultimately will cost them again this year.
“Enjoy Karma again Vikings losers…..it’s coming”.
Maybe so, maybe so…..
But not at the hands of the Green Bay Packers.
So much to respond to….lets pick the highlights.
Being sacked 50 times generally affects the QB’s ability to effectively read the field and throw to receivers…especially when you are getting sacked an average of 2.5 seconds after the ball is snapped. Therefore, the simple fact that Rodgers put up the numbers he did in light of that pressure, is amazing. If that is what you mean by me “dissmissing” the sack totals…then I guess you are right. It was clearly an issue, that was addressed by mid-season, after which they incurred only 7 sacks over the remaining 9 games. By your logic and assumption…I would then dismiss Jared Allen’s Pro Bowl year, as he sacked Rodgers 7.5 times in two games…and then was only able to generate 5.5 more sacks over the remaining 14 games. Wow.
Preseason scratches:
Woodson – 2 games
Mathews – 3 games
Jones – 3 games
Barnett – 2 games
Bigby – 3 games
Harris – 3 games
Jenkins – 2 games
Based on these names…and the fact that I agree that Harris and Bigby are likely done….that would leave…..lets see….one, two, three, four, five players on the Number 1 defense that have missed at least 2 pre-season games. Check YOUR facts my friend.
Next, I have every right to be so damn cocky, especially since it was the same “medicocre” schedule the enabled the Vikings to rack up the stats and wins they did. And in the end, they had one more win and one more playoff win than the Packers. Wow….stellar. T-Jack got your team to the playoffs the year before….great.
It is so funny to listen to the “until Rodgers and co win anything noteworthy” nonsense….after two years as the starter. When Favre took over, he was 18-14 in his first two years with 37 TD’s and 37 INT’s. Rodgers is 17-15 with 58 TD’s and 20 INT’s over that same time. Pretty good upside in my opinion. The only difference, Favre won his first playoff game, only to be hammered in Dallas the next. Not much different, and the fact that Packer fans are excited about the future drives Vikings fans nuts because thier future QB is………………T-jack?????
Oh, and cliche…..do you listen to the Jim Rome show at all…..please do so to obtain a definition for “honk.”
Jim Rome: Uff!!!!!
Packers 2-5 against teams with winning records.
Packers o-line gives up 5 sacks in WC game. ( but that line is fixed)
It’s the same crap EVERY year from packer fans.
too bad you will be sorely disappointed this year.
Optimism based on a top 5 pro bowl QB (who is 26), a #2 ranked defense and just about every position filled for the future….fine with me.
Your optimism based on an aging team, a coach who is just a cross dressing figurhead, a QB who is 41 and sqeezes your organization for an extra $7 million, and no plan for QB of the future…..fine with me.
Enjoy your teams failure.
Its the same crap EVERY year from Vikings fans…and Favre fans for that matter.
J Dub says:
“Optimism based on a top 5 pro bowl QB (who is 26), a #2 ranked defense and just about every position filled for the future….fine with me.
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You Wisconsin hillbillies love your stats and rankings. Okay fool, try these stats on for size
2009 Packers opposing QB rating vs TheMinnesota Vikings
Brett Favre QB rating vs. Packers in game 1 135.3
Brett Favre QB rating vs. Packers in game 2 128.6
Those quarterback ratings indicate how the Vikings viewed the vaunted Packer defense.
How about the playoffs? How did the #2 Packers’ defense do when it mattered most ?
IT COLLAPSED !
Kurt Warner did pretty much whatever he wanted in the passing game, going 29/33 for 379 yards and 5 touchdowns.
Let me lay this out for you… Warner had a 88% completion percentage against the Packers.
The Packer defense also gave up 156 rushing yards to a Cardinal team that could not run the ball effectively all year.
If it wasn’t for the heroics of Aaron Rodgers, the Packers would have been done by half time (actually they were) because the #2 Packer defense looked every bit like #2
Save your stupid stats. They are laughable!
Get ready for two losses at the hands of Brett Favre again, and crying yourself to sleep.