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Report: Five games for Roethlisberger

Many have presumed that the decision of Commissioner Roger Goodell to suspend Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger for six games with the ability to reduce the ban to four games in reality represents a four-game suspension that would easily be expanded to six, if Roethlisberger gets into any trouble.

And the tea leaves have suggested that Goodell eventually will drop the suspension to four games, unless Roethlisberger somehow gets into trouble in the next four days, before he meets again with Goodell in New York.  Indeed, Goodell said on August 4 that Roethlisberger “is doing what he’s been asked to do — and frankly more.”

So it would be a surprise if Roethlisberger gets more than four games.  According to Mike Wise of the Washington Post, however, a surprise could be coming.  Wise says, via Twitter, that Roethlisberger will get five games.

That sound you hear in the distance is the stampede of all the Pittsburgh and interested national media doing the same thing that the New York and interested national media reacted to Tim Cowlishaw’s out-of-the-blue Darrelle Revis report from eight days ago.

If the report is accurate, Roethlisberger would miss the first four games (vs. Falcons, at Titans, at Buccaneers, vs. Ravens), the bye week, and a home game against the Browns.  He’s return for a trip to Miami, followed by the Halloween game against the Saints.

UPDATE:  Subsequent tweets from Wise suggest that he was just joking or possibly poking fun at last week’s Tim Cowlishaw shibacle or, perhaps more accurately, being a dick.  Still, I thought the old-school newspaper types were anal retentive about, you know, accuracy and credibility?

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101 Responses to “Report: Five games for Roethlisberger”
  1. 420fan says: Aug 30, 2010 12:34 PM

    No means No!

  2. cmich06 says: Aug 30, 2010 12:35 PM

    not saying this report is wrong but Wise is a known hack here in DC

  3. stiller43 says: Aug 30, 2010 12:36 PM

    Your report is of a different report stating that “Roethlisberger will get 5 games, I’m told.”
    Sounds like a good chain of evidence and sources.

  4. Dr. Michael says: Aug 30, 2010 12:37 PM

    Baretta-“Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time” Big Ben…

  5. Dr. Michael says: Aug 30, 2010 12:37 PM

    Baretta-“Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time” Big Ben…

  6. steeltown22 says: Aug 30, 2010 12:37 PM

    I don’t buy it, not a day after the NFL deliberately broke the news that they will be meeting after next thursdays game. Mike Wise has never broken a story in his life.

  7. Dr. Michael says: Aug 30, 2010 12:38 PM

    Baretta-“Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time” Big Ben…

  8. robert ethen says: Aug 30, 2010 12:38 PM

    Just add the possible 4 to the possible 6 and you come up with a nice round number. That is what I would do.

  9. agenice says: Aug 30, 2010 12:40 PM

    Wise is not like his name says.. he’s an idiot.

  10. hnirobert says: Aug 30, 2010 12:40 PM

    So, he’ll be taking his talents to South Beach?

  11. DB26 says: Aug 30, 2010 12:43 PM

    Pittsburgh fans, the Steelers organization, Roethlisberger, & his family should be happy that he is even allowed to be in the league this season, let alone only be suspended 5 games. Good decision by Goodell to go the in between route, that way he rewards BR for good behavior, but stays stern in the punishment & probably doesn’t make himself look like a soft ho to the fans & media outlets.

  12. DallasRavens says: Aug 30, 2010 12:45 PM

    Absolutely horrible decision by Goodell.

  13. DCGator says: Aug 30, 2010 12:46 PM

    Wise posted it as a joke to see which site would run with it without checking any source. Congrats on being the winner Mike.

  14. Rhapsody says: Aug 30, 2010 12:46 PM

    “If the report is accurate.” That’s all this site is really good for: rumors and innuendo, but not accuracy.

  15. kravon says: Aug 30, 2010 12:47 PM

    5 missed games is better than prison.

  16. razic says: Aug 30, 2010 12:48 PM

    Ben should be forced to wear a letter R on his jersey during games to represent the fact that he is a Rapist.

  17. steel curtain 2k says: Aug 30, 2010 12:48 PM

    I can’t help but disagree.
    If santonio “puff puff pass” holmes gets suspended 4 games for his SECOND ARREST in less than 3 years then Ben should get at most 4 games for his second NON arrest incident. I understand the allegations are very severe and if true he should be punished but considering he was not prosecuted after all the evidence was considered I cannot help but feel he should be suspended for no more than 4 games.
    This of course is my opinion but I do believe it is fair when you consider all of the facts that prove to be TRUE and not the rumors that float around.

  18. Deb says: Aug 30, 2010 12:51 PM

    Did Wise go to the Florio School of Pot-Stirring and Attention-Getting?
    Roethlisberger is the first player ever suspended with no prior disciplinary action, no criminal arrest or charge, no violation of NFL gambling or substance-abuse policies. The NFL’s investigative arm reviewed the case files and knows the accusation was false. That’s why Goodell only cited him for excessive drinking (like no player has done that before).
    Four games is egregious given that Vince Young (after a history of disruptive problems) wasn’t suspended for assault, and Brandon Underwood wasn’t suspended for illegally soliciting prostitutes, which also led to a rape accusation. For the commissioner to say Roethlisberger has more than met his burden then fail to reduce the suspension to the minimum would be bizarre and inconsistent … um … like wailing about staining the shield but failing to suspend Young and Underwood.
    Uh-oh.
    Well, at least the NFL sabotaging our season without cause may shut up the conspiracy theorists.
    Nah.

  19. hotchick says: Aug 30, 2010 12:51 PM

    Dude’s..This is not a hard news site.
    Though its hard to call it even soft news that someone thinks he’ll get 5 games.
    We all knew already he will get 4, 5 or 6 games.
    Pick one, you got a 1 in 3 shot.

  20. DARTH 0BAMA says: Aug 30, 2010 12:51 PM

    Dr michael,
    Tripple post much?
    Pete and Repeat walk into a bar…pete leaves… who is left?…repeat
    Pete and repeat wak into a bar…

  21. Wazzu says: Aug 30, 2010 12:52 PM

    Mike Wise is on his radio show right this minute talking about how he made this up to see if anyone would retweet it, and he’s currently laughing at you for putting it on your website.
    He’s a complete douche for putting false news out there simply for the sake of screwing with people, but this also shows that you should verify your sources and check the reports that you read before you put them up on your website and also look like a douche.

  22. tkebean says: Aug 30, 2010 12:52 PM

    I’m told it will be 4 games. This statement means about as much as Wise’s does. We are going to see a couple different hacky sportswriters write this next couple days in hopes the shit they are throwing sticks to the wall and then come Friday they can say…see, I told you it would be 5 games. And when Friday actually comes around and when Ben’s suspension goes to 4 we get to see the backpedaling.

  23. steelers rule says: Aug 30, 2010 12:53 PM

    Godell does not care if e gets 5, its against the Browns! No charges=5 games? Charged DUI= nothing….

  24. Dapollock says: Aug 30, 2010 12:55 PM

    Goodell to Ben:
    Well, we’re gonna give you a nice 5 week vacation, then let you party down in South Beach.
    Ben to Goodell:
    Suspend me for the year right now.

  25. daivos03 says: Aug 30, 2010 12:56 PM

    Four games vs. five games may not sound like much, but a four-game suspension would allow for Ben Roethlisberger to come-back to the team immediately before a bye-week, thus making his first game much eaiser and likely leading to an immediate positive impact for the team.
    A five-game suspension would force him to stay away from the team during the bye as well, thus making him a lot less valuable on his immediate return.
    If he takes six-weeks to up to speed, the Steelers could be 2-3 (or worse) and facing the New Orlean Saints before Roethlisberger has his game legs under him again.

  26. queenie says: Aug 30, 2010 12:57 PM

    raiderrob21 says:
    August 30, 2010 12:40 PM
    Hide your wives, girlfriends, and daughters! Ben the Rapist will be on the loose for 6 weeks!!!!!
    ______________________________
    What…when did this happen? Ben’s a rapist? I do not recall seeing where he got arrested or charged with anything in the news? Did he rape you or something? Do tell!

  27. KILLER FIN says: Aug 30, 2010 12:58 PM

    I knew Goodell would fold but I didn’t see 5 games for Rapelisberger I thought 4!!! GOOD!!!

  28. branchbranch says: Aug 30, 2010 12:58 PM

    2 Things…
    1st…Wise is a nerd in the DC Kornheiser tree that has absolutely been wrong many times before.
    2nd…The 5th game is at home against the Browns…Hines Ward could take snaps at QB and they win that game 2 TDs.
    3rd…Yawn. No difference making news here.

  29. FinFan68 says: Aug 30, 2010 1:01 PM

    This is just a “reporter” trying to pad a resume. He loses nothing by being wrong, it is already 6 games, and most believe it will be reduced to 4. If he guessed right, he looks good and can use that later on. He has no “source”…it is pure speculation with an “unnamed” source as the fall guy if/when his guess does not pan out.

  30. kevind says: Aug 30, 2010 1:01 PM

    @DB26
    Yeah why dont we throw the guy out of the league.Oh yeah, I remember the guy was never even charged with anything.Why should we rely on stuff like evidence when we can just have brillant people like you deciding what punishment Ben should get.
    @op
    Anybody that believes this should get thier head examined.Goddell hasnt even met with Ben yet,so to report this on your Twitter is at best bad journalism.

  31. myspaceyourface says: Aug 30, 2010 1:03 PM

    Prison? For What?
    2 drunk people hooked up in public.
    He may be a pig, but he hasn’t broken any laws.

  32. queenie says: Aug 30, 2010 1:05 PM

    kravon says:
    August 30, 2010 12:47 PM
    5 missed games is better than prison.
    ______________________________
    Dude what are you talking about? Funny how I do not recall charges or an arrest of Big Ben….I think you need to educate yourself to the facts and stop looking so stupid…run along now and thanks for playing.

  33. WhoPlaysWhere says: Aug 30, 2010 1:05 PM

    More over than this, it should be reported how Aikman and Buck drooled over the Fat Man last night on Fox, talking about what a great QB he is and what a nice guy he is.
    Really?
    When was the last time someone called a twice accused rapist of being a nice guy? When was the last time a nice guy’s friend calls him out in SI that clubs in Pittsburgh won’t let him in cause he’s a cock and he kisses his biceps when he makes a shot in pickup basketball?
    Really?
    The only other people in the World who think this highly of this guy are inbred Steeler fans (not all) and Hostess, the fine maker of Ding Dongs and Twinkies; since entering the NFL, BIG Ben has solely keeps them in business by ever expanding his amount of chins on their sugary goodness.

  34. panteraphenomenon says: Aug 30, 2010 1:06 PM

    the steelers are done.

  35. Philly99 says: Aug 30, 2010 1:07 PM

    Goodell has to be tough on Ben, since 99% of the time it is black players getting arrested. Even though Ben has no prior arrests, they have to come down hard on him.
    Vince Young should have gotten suspended for his strip club fight, but he is one of a few black QB’s in the league that play.

  36. queenie says: Aug 30, 2010 1:09 PM

    razic says:
    August 30, 2010 12:48 PM
    Ben should be forced to wear a letter R on his jersey during games to represent the fact that he is a Rapist.
    _________________________
    Dear please try and keep up! You took the short bus to school didn’t you?

  37. Jack Burton says: Aug 30, 2010 1:12 PM

    He’ll get 4 and hopefully he’ll start to appreciate his situation in life a little more.

  38. Dr. Michael says: Aug 30, 2010 1:14 PM

    Darth-sorry for the triple post. It wouldn’t go through.
    Also, you misspelled “tripple” and “walk”…what community college did you flunk out of?

  39. BP says: Aug 30, 2010 1:17 PM

    Should have been suspended the whole season for bringing disgrace to the league.

  40. Kaz says: Aug 30, 2010 1:17 PM

    Clearly there is more to the case that the Steeler fans want to hear. 5 games for a serial rapist isn’t bad at all (unless you include the hush money he spent).

  41. it's all bs says: Aug 30, 2010 1:24 PM

    JFC, I leave for the summer come back and you all still have your head’s up your asses about Big Ben.
    How freaking stupid are you people? I feel sorry for you a$$holes.
    Big Ben’s an idiot and nothing else.
    Be real careful here because what goes around comes around.
    Go Steelers!

  42. Wrathchild says: Aug 30, 2010 1:25 PM

    Did you get the hook out of your mouth yet, Mike?

  43. Just JTO says: Aug 30, 2010 1:27 PM

    say what you want about Big Ben, but the only reason Goodell is being so tough on him is because he is white. Big Ben is basically the first high profile white player to remotely get in trouble and the commissioner is using him as an example. Nobody can tell me different.
    Just look at the lack of penalty or lesser penalties for some players – all black – who were charged and/or convicted.

  44. AlanSaysYo says: Aug 30, 2010 1:31 PM

    Wise is laughing at PFT for what? PFT cited him, so I don’t see what the big deal is. Had PFT posted the story and cited “unnamed sources,” this would be a different. As it stands, Wise just tweeted a lie and PFT passed it along as coming from him. Who’s the ass in that scenario?

  45. kravon says: Aug 30, 2010 1:33 PM

    kravon says:
    August 30, 2010 12:47 PM
    5 missed games is better than prison.
    ____________________ __________
    Dude what are you talking about? Funny how I do not recall charges or an arrest of Big Ben….I think you need to educate yourself to the facts and stop looking so stupid…run along now and thanks for playing.
    —————————————-
    Thanks for reading, dude.
    Kravon
    PFT Charter Member

  46. kravon says: Aug 30, 2010 1:36 PM

    Queenie,
    You are a funny person. Can we be Facebook friends?
    Based on how much you stick up for Ben, I think are you really Ben Roethlisberger??? Is that you Big Ben??? C’mon tell the truth!
    Kravon
    PFT Charter Member

  47. kevind says: Aug 30, 2010 1:37 PM

    @Kaz
    So why dont you educate all of us how Ben is a serial rapist.So lets get our facts straight here.Ok,How many times was Ben charged with rape?O yeah I remember.Never even charged.But hater fans like continue to throw around the rapist thing on a guy that never was charged with rape.Lets be honest,you dont like the Steelers or Ben.So lets not pretend that you are trying to take some kind of moral high ground when its clear your just talking out of your ass.

  48. Sportsguy1927 says: Aug 30, 2010 1:38 PM

    UPDATE: Subsequent tweets from Wise suggest that he was just joking or possibly poking fun at last week’s Tim Cowlishaw shibacle or, perhaps more accurately, being a dick. Still, I thought the old-school newspaper types were anal retentive about, you know, accuracy and credibility?

    A school of thought that could do ProFootballTalk some good.

  49. Kaz says: Aug 30, 2010 1:40 PM

    Just JTO says:
    August 30, 2010 1:27 PM
    say what you want about Big Ben, but the only reason Goodell is being so tough on him is because he is white. Big Ben is basically the first high profile white player to remotely get in trouble and the commissioner is using him as an example. Nobody can tell me different.
    Just look at the lack of penalty or lesser penalties for some players – all black – who were charged and/or convicted.
    ________
    Say what you want about us black folk, but who was running around getting drunk and raping underage girls? Or had 3 cases of rape within a year? Yea, we may have a fight or two at a club, smoke a little some some, but who hasn’t? Rape is only acceptable in Pittsburgh. Maybe that explains all the Maunts and Duncles, and Brephews and Sieses around town.

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  51. kravenm3 says: Aug 30, 2010 1:41 PM

    …or maybe Mr. Wise and the old-school newspaper types see Twitter as a bunch of drivel and not like a religious doctrine like some.

  52. wydok says: Aug 30, 2010 1:43 PM

    “Still, I thought the old-school newspaper types were anal retentive about, you know, accuracy and credibility?”
    As opposed to new-school bloggers.
    *whistles innocently*

  53. Other Bears says: Aug 30, 2010 1:46 PM

    I love you in your article, you give a guy crap for making a claim as fact with no information, but the title of your article implies that a decision was made.
    Hypocrite.

  54. kevind says: Aug 30, 2010 1:49 PM

    @op
    Like I said in a earlier post that this story was bogus.Now this Wise character is admitting that he did this as a joke.The bottom line….Nobody knows what Goddell’s decision is going to be until he makes a announcement.
    @queenie
    Love your posts.You crack me up.

  55. steeelfann says: Aug 30, 2010 1:51 PM

    Probably just another paid professional liar that makes a living in Washington DC.

  56. jm4385 says: Aug 30, 2010 1:52 PM

    Im seriouslly astonished by the stupid bloggers and so called football fans that are allowed to exist on football site. Again…like a I sed about james harrison….ppl only hate bc ur jelous ben is not on ur team. EVERYONE knows he didnt rape anyone. It just sumthn stupid for Steeler haters to joke about. The guy got drunk and made out with sum sloppy horror that called rape bc she was poor. Goodell shldnt even have been allowed to suspend him bc HE WAS FOUND INNOCENT. SO WHAT DID HE DO WRONG!! Goodell is the problem in the NFL today. keeps letting all these stupid rules take play, keeps letting guys get away with steriods, and just suspends people left and right bc he enjoys abusing the power. What about these guys that get caught BEATING thier wives and girlfriends like brandon marshall. That guy shldnt even be allowed in the nfl.

  57. PittsburghSteelerz says: Aug 30, 2010 1:58 PM

    Even 4 games is a joke. Not even charged with a crime!
    What was Vick’s suspension after getting out of FEDERAL prision for killing dogs – 1/2 games?

  58. kravon says: Aug 30, 2010 2:04 PM

    Based on some comments, some people are relatively new to PFT.
    Welcome and make yourselves at home.
    Kravon
    PFT Charter Member

  59. CincyAllDaWay says: Aug 30, 2010 2:06 PM

    This just in….they’ve identified the source of Big Ben’s issues….it’s that extra 60lbs of ugly fat sitting right on top of his shoulders. They’re making plans as we speak to cut it off and isolate the issue. This will put him out of everyones misery!

  60. Rex Grossman says: Aug 30, 2010 2:10 PM

    Mike Wise should be fired! He has ruined my Monday with his false claims of football information!
    j/k. I’m all for journalism LOLs. Especially when dealing with something as insignificant as this. Now if Peter Jennings was joking about 9/11 we may have an issue.

  61. fan15062 says: Aug 30, 2010 2:10 PM

    Kaz – You say Ben was running around raping underage girls? Get your facts straight. According to those who ACTUALLY investigated the ‘allegations’ he raped nobody. Plus, one of the women who made an ‘allegation’ was certainly not underage anway.
    I don’t agree with a lot of the choices that Roethlisberger has made. I’ve said that before. But until he is at least CHARGED let alone CONVICTED I won’t call him a rapist. With that in mind, 4-6 games is way too much as compared to athletes – of any color – who are charged AND convicted of crimes. Yet some of them lately have gotten no suspensions at all.

  62. realitypolice says: Aug 30, 2010 2:11 PM

    Maybe it’s time we all stop treating Tweets as newspaper columns. And time that columnists stop using tweets as a way to put out rumors they don’t have to stand behind.
    Twitter is best used by teenagers to tell everyone what they had for lunch. Anything else, apparently, is dangerous.
    Oh, and PFT calling someone else out for putting unsubstantiated rumors on the internet is a bit of a pot/kettle situation.

  63. SkinsDan says: Aug 30, 2010 2:15 PM

    Florio is a tool, and he took the bait Wise laid out for him. The fact that this article was written before any verification shows that he is the hack, who uses non-verified sources for his “news”. What a joke.

  64. khall says: Aug 30, 2010 2:18 PM

    Kaz:
    “Say what you want about us black folk, but who was running around getting drunk and raping underage girls?”
    ___________
    Lawrence Taylor
    ___________
    “Or had 3 cases of rape within a year?”
    ___________
    3? Surely you’re not including the girl who claimed (through a friend who mentioned it to police) she was sexually assaulted by Roethlisberger one week and then returned the next week to a party at his house and went back up to his bedroom a second time….or did the number 3 just make it sound better in your addled mind?

  65. Rex Grossman says: Aug 30, 2010 2:23 PM

    hahaha. Mike Florio posted this “news report” based on Mike Wise tweeting “Roethlisberger is suspended 5 games, I’m told”. nice sources floflo. ownd.

  66. It puts the lotion on the skin says: Aug 30, 2010 2:24 PM

    # branchbranch says: August 30, 2010 12:58 PM
    2 Things…
    1st…Wise is a nerd in the DC Kornheiser tree that has absolutely been wrong many times before.
    2nd…The 5th game is at home against the Browns…Hines Ward could take snaps at QB and they win that game 2 TDs.
    3rd…Yawn. No difference making news here.
    ___________________________________
    I think Mangini and the Browns can go F themselves, but they put a beat down on the Steelers last year in Dec, won the last 4 games (if I remember correctly), and didnt get worse this off season, so how exactly can you guarantee a 2 TD victory without Big Ben, when they couldnt beat the Browns last Dec with Big Ben????

  67. BigBear123 says: Aug 30, 2010 2:31 PM

    Bucs is only winnable game without the Rapist. Going to be a rough start for the Squeelers.

  68. PhillyFansSuck says: Aug 30, 2010 2:32 PM

    To all you pissburgh fans out there, quit whining about how the NFL is out to ruin your season! We all know Big Ben wouldn’t sexually assualt any women…he’s Gay for Sidney Crosby!!

  69. steelersmichele says: Aug 30, 2010 2:39 PM

    Too bad some of you guys can’t be suspended from PFT for the bonehead comments you make.

  70. steel curtain 2k says: Aug 30, 2010 2:46 PM

    It puts the lotion on the skin says:
    and didnt get worse this off season
    __________
    idk man your best LB tearing his pectoral is not exactly a plus…

  71. cutler_eats_it says: Aug 30, 2010 2:48 PM

    Deb: Are you a woman or just a guy with a female screen name? Because your support of BR is an embarassment to all civil people, never mind women.
    You’re sweeping his behavior under the rug like it was a speeding ticket! I’m sure he has done this numerous times in the past and would still being doing it if not for getting exposed. He was trolling around college bars cornering young women with the help of off duty cops (thugs)! He was using his stardom as a bait to prey (whether illegal or not) on imature intoxicated brainless women.
    I just can’t see how anyone can openly and publicly support a guy who would still be behaving this way if not for getting caught and having this behavior brought to the forefront of the league.
    You don’t have to beat him up…but to defend this situation is pathetic.

  72. Deb says: Aug 30, 2010 2:51 PM

    @Kravon …
    I don’t remember you being so idiotic before your vacation. Did you get your hands on some bad weed? And which came first … were you clueless before becoming a PFT charter member or is it a result of continual Florio exposure?
    @Kaz …
    Who was raping underage girls this summer? Um … that would be Lawrence Taylor.
    Sorry, couldn’t resist. That’s a sad case all around. It’s unfortunate to bring race into any of this. But it’s equally unfortunate to bring fandom into something as serious as rape. And it doesn’t benefit men of color who’ve been falsely accused and convicted to rant false accusations at a caucasian. The system has failed people of all races at one time or another. Fortunately, this time it worked.
    There’s no credible evidence of rape because no one was raped. If you’d bothered to review the evidence, you’d know that. And there haven’t been three accusations. That was an erroneous report. The NFL doesn’t know anything more than has been reported. You don’t like Roethlisberger–fine. But he’s not guilty. If the suspension forced him to take stock of his life, then I’m glad for it. But it shouldn’t run longer than four weeks.
    @CincyAllDaWay …
    You’re behind, love. Ben’s dropped that excess (but Mike Tomlin found some of it and wrapped it around his middle).

  73. TylerRDunn says: Aug 30, 2010 2:57 PM

    What a joke. Actual criminals are playing in this league – convicted ones – with nowhere near the consequences Roethlisberger is facing. If Big Ben was black he would have gotten a game.

  74. Bob Nelson says: Aug 30, 2010 3:03 PM

    Just make it 8 and be done with it.
    Any NFL player going out in public wearing clothing that attempts to honor evil Satan ought to get 10 games. Add on 4 more games for assaulting little girls.

  75. tiger2471 says: Aug 30, 2010 3:06 PM

    Florio, don’t be pissed because you post everything you read without verifying it, it goes to YOUR credibility.

  76. queenie says: Aug 30, 2010 3:10 PM

    kravon says:
    August 30, 2010 1:36 PM
    Queenie,
    You are a funny person. Can we be Facebook friends?
    Based on how much you stick up for Ben, I think are you really Ben Roethlisberger??? Is that you Big Ben??? C’mon tell the truth!
    Kravon
    PFT Charter Member
    __________________________
    No not Big Ben sorry sweetie and I don’t do Facebook so you’ll have to imagine me only in your dreams baby…and I know how dissapointed you must be about that….LOL!

  77. kravon says: Aug 30, 2010 3:15 PM

    Thanks Deb.

  78. queenie says: Aug 30, 2010 3:21 PM

    cutler_eats_it says:
    August 30, 2010 2:48 PM
    Deb: Are you a woman or just a guy with a female screen name? Because your support of BR is an embarassment to all civil people, never mind women.
    You’re sweeping his behavior under the rug like it was a speeding ticket! I’m sure he has done this numerous times in the past and would still being doing it if not for getting exposed. He was trolling around college bars cornering young women with the help of off duty cops (thugs)! He was using his stardom as a bait to prey (whether illegal or not) on imature intoxicated brainless women.
    I just can’t see how anyone can openly and publicly support a guy who would still be behaving this way if not for getting caught and having this behavior brought to the forefront of the league.
    You don’t have to beat him up…but to defend this situation is pathetic.
    ___________________________
    I’m a woman and I support him! What’s it to you? You speak for no one but yourself and the only thing pathetic is you haters who cry “crime” where none existed except in your pea brain head! Get off your freaking high horse, get over yourself, get a freaking clue, and move out of your mom’s basement…she told me you can’t live there anymore!
    Go Steelers & Go Big Ben!

  79. it's all bs says: Aug 30, 2010 3:31 PM

    @cutler_eats_it says:
    August 30, 2010 2:48 PM
    Deb: Are you a woman or just a guy with a female screen name? Because your support of BR is an embarassment to all civil people, never mind women.
    You’re sweeping his behavior under the rug like it was a speeding ticket! I’m sure he has done this numerous times in the past and would still being doing it if not for getting exposed. He was trolling around college bars cornering young women with the help of off duty cops (thugs)! He was using his stardom as a bait to prey (whether illegal or not) on imature intoxicated brainless women.
    I just can’t see how anyone can openly and publicly support a guy who would still be behaving this way if not for getting caught and having this behavior brought to the forefront of the league.
    You don’t have to beat him up…but to defend this situation is pathetic.
    _____________________________
    Hey jackass I’m not a female but I tell you what my daughters and my wife and I both defend Big Ben regarding the treatment and the witch hunt that the media and scumfags like you have put him through..get a life please….if you are so concerned why not run down to your local battered women’s shelter or rape crises center you hypocrite…you know actually do something..now there’s an original thought for you.
    To call anyone pathetic is to speak for yourself!
    GO STEELERS!

  80. cutler_eats_it says: Aug 30, 2010 3:47 PM

    queenie: who said crime in my comment…not me. We’re talkin decent human behavior that’s all. I’m not lookin for nobel peace prize winners.
    its all BS: Perfect screen name! You might want to re-read you own comment. Calm down bro! I just sayin’ if it weren’t for the athleticism and desparation of you “need” to win…you’d be wanting him off the streets!

  81. The Terminator says: Aug 30, 2010 4:09 PM

    Bob Nelson says:
    August 30, 2010 3:03 PM
    Just make it 8 and be done with it.
    Any NFL player going out in public wearing clothing that attempts to honor evil Satan ought to get 10 games. Add on 4 more games for assaulting little girls.
    _________________
    Satan’s not evil…he’s just bad on the outside but he’s good on the inside…why hate satan..what did he ever do to you?

  82. Kaz says: Aug 30, 2010 4:13 PM

    If LT was in the league he would be suspended too, probably for much longer. I’m talking about white people claiming Big Ben is oh so innocent (because he paid some people off) and is just getting suspended because he was white. News flash. If Big Ben was black he’d be behind bars for life. 3 “accusations” of rape, within a year. What black man you know has survived anything like that? Lets be honest. Talk race, but be real about it. You guys have no clue about race.
    Ignore Henry, Pacman, Vick, Plaxico, Tank, Holmes and all those black people who were suspended much longer than 4 games for accusations/crimes not as serious as rape.
    Rape in Pittsburgh = 100+million dollar contract. Figures a bunch of inbreds would support a rapist.

  83. Deb says: Aug 30, 2010 4:21 PM

    @kravon … ;)
    @queenie & it’s all bs … thanks!
    @cutler_eats_it …
    I’m a woman who’s spent years working with real rape victims and researching and writing about legal and medical issues so I know how to research a criminal case. And if I have any questions, my brother and sister-in-law are criminal defense attorneys. I’ve read the complaint and every bit of evidence so far in Nevada. And I’ve read every document released in Georgia, researched DNA testing, and repeatedly watched the DA’s 71-minute comments.
    Since you haven’t checked the facts:
    That was Roethlisberger’s FIRST visit to the college town. She was drinking illegally on her own dime and following him from club to club, pinching him to get his attention. At the last club, he bought shots for the room, which the waitress set on the table. She CHOSE to drink them. She CHOSE to tell him her pin said she was “Down to F**k.”
    Her sorority sister ragged him about Nevada and Ben tossed her from the party. She and her friend are the ONLY ones claiming the bodyguard blocked the bathroom. Other witnesses refuted that and the accuser claimed she and Ben were rolling on the hallway floor–difficult if the guard had been there.
    The accuser was out of sight only 10 minutes, the sorority sisters Ben threw out dragged her to the cops and cried rape–which she repeatedly denied. The medical exam showed she hadn’t had intercourse that evening but did have sex earlier in the day (based on the size and degradation of the DNA finding). When asked, the DA said he couldn’t comment because it violated her privacy.
    The DA said Ben needs to grow up and he hoped she and her friends had learned their lesson … not typical DA comments about RAPE.
    Ben has behaved like an ass, but he isn’t a rapist. The insult to women and REAL rape victims are those who make FALSE claims for money or attention and the pitiful excuses for men who play games with sexual assault to get in digs at rival fans.

  84. The Terminator says: Aug 30, 2010 4:34 PM

    @Deb says:
    August 30, 2010 4:21 PM
    Ben has behaved like an ass, but he isn’t a rapist. The insult to women and REAL rape victims are those who make FALSE claims for money or attention and the pitiful excuses for men who play games with sexual assault to get in digs at rival fans.
    ____________
    and that boys & girls concludes our “Big Ben” show for the day…please tune in tomorrow for another episode!
    Go Steelers!

  85. Route36West says: Aug 30, 2010 4:35 PM

    thats hilarious

  86. cutler_eats_it says: Aug 30, 2010 4:41 PM

    Deb: You just don’t get it at all! You really do think it’s the same as a speeding ticket! It doesn’t matter what the girls situation was! He was (i use WAS cause I hope he’s learned) doing things that at the very least, as a women, you must find appalling and low life!
    I think he’s a tremendous QB. A talented althlete…just a bad person. I understand why you’d like to be able to root for the guy. I just can’t see defending his actions.

  87. Deb says: Aug 30, 2010 4:44 PM

    kaz, now you’re just being an ass.
    Roethlisberger hasn’t been accused three times. One of those supposed accusations was a false report. A woman in Nevada had sex with him, texted her friends that she couldn’t wait to see him again, waited a year, and filed a $3 million lawsuit alleging rape. I’ve already outlined the Georgia non-case.
    Brandon Underwood, Eric Foster, and Eric Green are African Americans accused of rape this year. None have been suspended. Vince Young assaulted someone in a strip club and hasn’t been suspended. Pacman Jones had six years of arrests, convictions, and pleas, and was involved in two shootings within a few months before his first league suspension. Ray Lewis was heavily fined but not suspended after a murder charge.
    Of course there’s racism in our society and in our criminal justice system … but not in this situation.

  88. djmoore914 says: Aug 30, 2010 4:55 PM

    “perhaps more accurately, being a dick.”
    Florio you are hilarious. I love you. Now ditch Greggggers

  89. Kaz says: Aug 30, 2010 5:32 PM

    You’re right Deb, I am being an ass. But I don’t believe race played a roll in his suspension as some are concluding..

  90. Deb says: Aug 30, 2010 5:43 PM

    @cutler_eats_it …
    Defended what actions? Rapes he didn’t commit? If he didn’t do it–and he didn’t–how can I be defending it?
    Look, I’ve been disappointed to learn how Ben has treated fans, have called him out for being an egomaniacal jackass, and support a four-game suspension because of his increasingly reckless behavior. Wish it had been the team because Goodell is a hypocrite who set a precedent he won’t honor with others. But the suspension may save Ben’s life, so either way, it’s worth it.
    But no, I don’t find him an appalling low life. He’s an immature frat boy who was sucked into the trappings of too much success too fast. Work has taken me to some rough places, and I have a lot of experience with abusive and predatory men. He doesn’t fit the patterns. He gets slobbery and stupid when drinking like many frat-boys and dropping his britches is embarrassing, but it’s more immaturity than anything.
    The Nevada woman was older than him by a few years and didn’t mention alcohol in her complaint. In Georgia, he was celebrating his 28th birthday and met a 20-year-old who chased him all over town. I doubt he carded her. It’s a bit much to expect a young, single man to turn down women who are throwing it at him. And not many men treat women who throw it at them in bars with the same respect they show their girlfriends. The women he’s dated long-term have nothing bad to say about him.
    To me the most telling stories are about the woman who drove him home from the country club. He made a pass at her, dropped his pants, and said, “Do what you want?” And she left. No struggle at all. She returned to a party at his invitation, went with him to “see his new bed,” they started kissing and he tried to put his hand up her skirt. She pushed him away and left. No struggle. Both times they were alone–no witnesses. But she just left. That’s not a predator. That’s most guys trying their luck.
    A bad person? Please. This is nothing more than an immature jerk who’s been smeared by gossip sites to look like Jack the Ripper. I guarantee there are more dangerous men posting on these threads.

  91. kevind says: Aug 30, 2010 6:20 PM

    It amazes me how many rival fans come on here and try to say Ben raped this person and Ben has accused of rape multible times.Give me a break people.Dont you think if the Milledgeville girl was raped there would of been proof of sexual contact.
    As far as the Nevada case goes..Why would the woman wait a year to file a civil case not a criminal charge?As stated earlier there is proof that she texted her friends bragging about Having sex with Ben.
    If Ben is guilty of anything,its being a little too immature.The guy came from a small school and small town in ohio and the next thing he knows he is the starting QB for the Pittsburgh Steelers.His 1st year he makes it to the AFC championship game.2nd year wins a SB.Couple of years later wins a 2nd SB.Does he need to grow up?Sure he does.Im sure he acted poorly in some past situations,but to label this guy as some kind of deviant is just absurd.

  92. Deb says: Aug 30, 2010 6:43 PM

    @Kaz …
    No, I don’t either. Goodell just reacted to the media feeding frenzy. If it had been someone less prominent than Roethlisberger and the media wasn’t all over it, I doubt he’d have done anything. If it had been McNabb with the same amount of publicity as Ben was getting, he’d have done the same thing.

  93. DanRooney says: Aug 30, 2010 8:25 PM

    No evidence+DTF=4-6 game suspension
    Multiple DUI offenses=0 game suspension
    Assaulting a bartender+DUI=0 game suspension
    Using steroids (Williams Bros)=0 game suspension
    Abusing vicodin (Sean Peyton)=0 game suspension
    Caught with HGH (Santana Moss)=0 game suspension
    Murder (Ray Lewis)=SB MVP

  94. broncosteviep says: Aug 31, 2010 7:42 AM

    @ Philly99….150% agree. This is a serious test case for reverse discrimination. I am not a Steeler fan (hence my handle), but if Big Ben were black he wouldn’t have been suspended at all. Sad. Too bad the white community can not bond together to fight this like the black community does.

  95. Allied Biscuit says: Aug 31, 2010 9:18 AM

    great reporting florio. great job. just report something. find out if it’s true later.

  96. Dial-A-Cliche says: Aug 31, 2010 10:26 AM

    DanRooney says:
    No evidence+DTF=4-6 game suspension
    Multiple DUI offenses=0 game suspension
    Assaulting a bartender+DUI=0 game suspension
    Using steroids (Williams Bros)=0 game suspension
    Abusing vicodin (Sean Peyton)=0 game suspension
    Caught with HGH (Santana Moss)=0 game suspension
    Murder (Ray Lewis)=SB MVP
    _________________________________
    17 Year Old, Evidence + Witnesses but No Conviction (Mark Chmura) = Induction into The Green Bay Packer Hall Of Fame

  97. Dial-A-Cliche says: Aug 31, 2010 10:40 AM

    Kaz says:
    “If LT was in the league he would be suspended too, probably for much longer. I’m talking about white people claiming Big Ben is oh so innocent (because he paid some people off) and is just getting suspended because he was white.”
    He still is white.
    ” News flash. If Big Ben was black he’d be behind bars for life. 3 “accusations” of rape, within a year. What black man you know has survived anything like that?
    O J Simpson, Ray Lewis, Michael Irvin
    “Lets be honest. Talk race, but be real about it. You guys have no clue about race.”
    “Ignore Henry, Pacman, Vick, Plaxico, Tank, Holmes and all those black people who were suspended much longer than 4 games for accusations/crimes not as serious as rape.
    Rape in Pittsburgh = 100+million dollar contract. Figures a bunch of inbreds would support a rapist.”
    Rape of a 17 year old girl in Wisconsin gets you an acquittal (from the jury of Packer season ticket holders) and induction into the Green Bay Packer Hall Of Fame.

  98. Bdrunk says: Aug 31, 2010 12:16 PM

    Kaz says:
    August 30, 2010 4:13 PM
    “If LT was in the league he would be suspended too, probably for much longer. I’m talking about white people claiming Big Ben is oh so innocent (because he paid some people off) and is just getting suspended because he was white. News flash. If Big Ben was black he’d be behind bars for life. 3 “accusations” of rape, within a year. What black man you know has survived anything like that? Lets be honest. Talk race, but be real about it. You guys have no clue about race.
    Ignore Henry, Pacman, Vick, Plaxico, Tank, Holmes and all those black people who were suspended much longer than 4 games for accusations/crimes not as serious as rape.
    Rape in Pittsburgh = 100+million dollar contract. Figures a bunch of inbreds would support a rapist. ”
    ———————-
    Face it. Whitey owns you.

  99. Deb says: Aug 31, 2010 1:31 PM

    @Bdrunk, Dial-a-Cliche, and StevieP …
    If you’d read the whole conversation, you’d know Kaz had ALREADY backed off that statement before you guys started piling on–and I respect him for that. It is possible to discuss these issues like adults without making ridiculous junior-high comments like “whitey owns you.” (That’s pitiful, Bdrunk.)
    As I’ve said, I don’t believe race has any bearing on Roethlisberger’s situation, but anyone familiar with the criminal justice system knows there has been plenty of racial disparity, so Kaz has reason to be cynical.

  100. Bdrunk says: Aug 31, 2010 2:36 PM

    Deb says:
    August 31, 2010 1:31 PM
    @Bdrunk, Dial-a-Cliche, and StevieP …
    If you’d read the whole conversation, you’d know Kaz had ALREADY backed off that statement before you guys started piling on–and I respect him for that. It is possible to discuss these issues like adults without making ridiculous junior-high comments like “whitey owns you.” (That’s pitiful, Bdrunk.)
    —————-
    I agree it was immature, but I’m just swimmin in the sewers with the rest of the rats.
    Kaz says:
    August 30, 2010 4:13 PM
    “Rape in Pittsburgh = 100+million dollar contract. Figures a bunch of inbreds would support a rapist. ”
    Yeah he’s being mature about it.

  101. Deb says: Aug 31, 2010 5:01 PM

    @Bdrunk …
    Well, I told him he was being an ass and he agreed with me :)

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