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Seneca Wallace thinks Suh should be suspended

On Saturday, Lions rookie defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh grabbed the face mask of Browns quarterback Jake Delhomme, twisted his head like it was a cork in a champagne bottle, and then threw Delhomme to the ground.

On Monday, the man who would have benefited the most from an injury to Jake Delhomme said that Suh should be suspended. 

“He already face masked him, then he grabs him by the neck, twists it and
throws him down,” Wallace told Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer.  “To me, that’s something you can get
suspended for
, I think. . . .  I understand the face mask part.  But he horse collared him and threw him
down.  We laughed about it, but that stuff can get people really hurt.”

We’re not prepared to call for Suh to be suspended.  But we think that he should be fined heavily, and that if he keeps playing that way he eventually should be suspended.

We also think that Lions fans are glad that they finally have someone on the team who will grab the face mask of a quarterback, twist his head like it was a cork in a champagne bottle, and then throw the quarterback to the ground.

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123 Responses to “Seneca Wallace thinks Suh should be suspended”
  1. FireJerryJones says: Aug 30, 2010 2:18 PM

    Fine.
    Got to love the fact that the Detroit Lions have an ‘Angry Man’ playing defense.

  2. Citizen Strange says: Aug 30, 2010 2:18 PM

    We also that Lions fans are glad that they finally have someone on the team who will grab the face mask of a quarterback, twist his head like it was a cork in a champagne bottle, and then throw the quarterback to the ground.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Alex Karras used to eat light bulbs.

  3. prophet of the light says: Aug 30, 2010 2:18 PM

    What does Seneca Wallace know about playing football. He sits on a bench.

  4. HarrisonHits says: Aug 30, 2010 2:18 PM

    “We also that Lions fans are glad that they finally have someone on the team who will grab the face mask of a quarterback, twist his head like it was a cork in a champagne bottle, and then throw the quarterback to the ground.”
    No Mike, I know very few fans who want players to intentionally try and injure other players. That is a ridiculous statement to make when you think about it.

  5. Old School says: Aug 30, 2010 2:18 PM

    Just what the NFL needed – another thug. Are they trying to take the title from the NBA?

  6. Opie says: Aug 30, 2010 2:18 PM

    That’s just Detroit Representing!

  7. klungemonger says: Aug 30, 2010 2:19 PM

    We Lions fans are glad if one of our defensemen even sniffs the QB of an opposing team for a change.

  8. Dapollock says: Aug 30, 2010 2:19 PM

    I don’t understand, Seneca wants to sell women’s make-up now?

  9. steveinohio says: Aug 30, 2010 2:19 PM

    He already got a 15 yarder against his team and a real angry voice from the ref, what more can you do. I thought it was kinda funny. The forced outrage in the ref’s voice, not the top rope body slam.

  10. Rex Grossman says: Aug 30, 2010 2:20 PM

    mike florio should be suspended for failure to proof read. 5 games, i’m told.
    wallace > delhomme

  11. Meat Tuperello says: Aug 30, 2010 2:20 PM

    We know that Flubio and 4G’s would be calling for the castration of Suh if this occured to their golden boy Tom “Stetson Babier” Brady.
    But since it occurred to their hated Delhomme a 10.00 and 2 doughnut fine is enough.

  12. TwoHands says: Aug 30, 2010 2:21 PM

    I didn’t see the play but if it went as Wallace said, then he definitely should be suspended. Gotta nip that crap in the bud.

  13. MostNutsEver says: Aug 30, 2010 2:21 PM

    If Suh did that to Brady, Peyton, or Favre he’d be sitting on the couch for 2 weeks.

  14. ike says: Aug 30, 2010 2:21 PM

    A fine? Maybe. A suspension? Come on man.

  15. DeLions00 says: Aug 30, 2010 2:22 PM

    The Browns’ offensive line should be suspended, for not doing $hit after Suh mangled Delhomme. Not one of them even said a word to him as he walked away, and they even watched it happen!
    Fine? Sure. Suspension? Not a chance.
    At least now we have a nasty attitude on our line.

  16. TheFALZ says: Aug 30, 2010 2:22 PM

    for the love of god, please proof read
    “We also that Lions fans are glad that they finally have someone on the team who will grab the face mask of a quarterback”

  17. eradicator says: Aug 30, 2010 2:22 PM

    Who’s the “we” who are not prepared to call for Suh to be suspended? I thought this was posted by one writer.

  18. GBfanForever says: Aug 30, 2010 2:23 PM

    Wait, Lions fans are glad to have a dirty player who aims to hurt guys? Just because your team both sux and blows doesn’t mean fans have to accept Albert Haynesworth type behavior. Anyway, they already have Delmas who had a few cheap shot personal fouls last year.

  19. severs28 says: Aug 30, 2010 2:23 PM

    Fined yes, suspended no! Quit being a little bitch. Football is a violent game, if you don’t like it play/watch basketball.

  20. jram says: Aug 30, 2010 2:23 PM

    I just watched the clip and yeah, he should be suspended.

  21. js136202 says: Aug 30, 2010 2:24 PM

    I watched the play as it happened, and I’ll preface this by saying I’m a Browns fan, but Suh should absolutely be suspended for that hit. It wasn’t even close to being accidental, he purposefully took our QB and threw him, by his head and facemask, to the turf. He could’ve easily broken his neck.
    If you disagree with my opinion, watch the video and tell me if you think he’d be suspended if he did that to Peyton Manning.

  22. chitown26 says: Aug 30, 2010 2:24 PM

    Again Florio, just leave the last sentences off your articles. We really don’t need your opinions.
    Thanks

  23. spytdi says: Aug 30, 2010 2:24 PM

    Wallace paid Suh. He wants to play.

  24. Lo Key says: Aug 30, 2010 2:25 PM

    Watching that in slo mo made me surprised he wasn’t actually hurt…
    I’d say hefty fine and a 1 game suspension. For those who say a suspension is unwarranted, imagine that’s your QB.
    Also, Florio… try doing some proofreading before you post.

  25. midwest85 says: Aug 30, 2010 2:26 PM

    I watched that play on TV and he should be at least fined for his actions. The league has all these rules in place to protect the QB and Suh went overboard on Delhomme.

  26. SteelCityStampede says: Aug 30, 2010 2:27 PM

    So maybe if Harrison had grabbed Orton’s facemask and twisted you’d have written some warm and fuzzy editorial blurbage about him too.

  27. SAL MAGLUDA IS A DOLFAN says: Aug 30, 2010 2:30 PM

    Another pointless article of how no one cares about what Florio writes. Evident by my one comment. Is this the first Seneca Wallace posting ever?

  28. Bell63 says: Aug 30, 2010 2:30 PM

    I didn’t see the play, but if Delhomme was in the pocket, there is no horsecollar.

  29. Kirmie says: Aug 30, 2010 2:31 PM

    Obviously Seneca Wallace has zero understanding of the horse collar rule because not once did Suh grab Delhomme and pull him straight down to the ground from behind.

  30. BAtkins63 says: Aug 30, 2010 2:31 PM

    Donkey Kong Suh was just frustrated that he isn’t playing against Baylor any longer. The Steeler’s Pouncey schooled him the week before.

  31. Really? says: Aug 30, 2010 2:31 PM

    I was thinking that a suspension was ridiculous, until I saw the video… and holy crap! That was brutal. I’d say that’s a MONSTER fine, and I’d have no problem with a suspension for that idiot.
    What if the QB gets injured on that play and is out for the season? And what if it’s Peyton Manning? Suspension, right? So what’s the difference? This kid needs a really harsh judgment here. That was totally uncalled for.

  32. Deacon Blues says: Aug 30, 2010 2:31 PM

    Suh would be kicked out of the league if he did that to Lord Favre………

  33. JetFan in Miami says: Aug 30, 2010 2:32 PM

    “We also that Lion fans?” or We are also glad that Lion fans finally…..* Should submit these posts to your english teacher before submitting them to the website.

  34. Meldog says: Aug 30, 2010 2:33 PM

    Couldn’t agree more with your last comment……let him be fined and I hope he has a great year.

  35. I_luv_the_Clowns says: Aug 30, 2010 2:33 PM

    Love the Browns, but the old school thrashing was awesome.
    Delhomme gets up = no suspension
    Delhomme no gets up = suspension
    PS – f pittspuke, f baltimore.

  36. Hail 2 Dan Snyder says: Aug 30, 2010 2:33 PM

    Seneca don’t worry. Suh will show his bustness by week 8

  37. pacificamike says: Aug 30, 2010 2:34 PM

    Kong and Kyle are gonna eat a Cutler sandwich this season…
    ROAR!!!!

  38. MotorCityKitties says: Aug 30, 2010 2:36 PM

    It looks bad but Suh didn’t know if he had the ball or not and was trying to take him to the ground. A suspension is ridiculous. A fine, maybe. You see excessive roughing every game. This is just another cry-baby with a mic in his face.

  39. Kirmie says: Aug 30, 2010 2:37 PM

    # Old School says: August 30, 2010 2:18 PM
    Just what the NFL needed – another thug. Are they trying to take the title from the NBA?
    ————
    You do realize that the ONLY thing Suh did that was illegal was the facemask right?

  40. huthutHUT says: Aug 30, 2010 2:37 PM

    Have you seen how NFL.com describes the play?
    “Throw him down, big man! Throw him down!”
    If their editors reflect the attitude of the league there won’t be any fines, just more praise.

  41. Winninugly says: Aug 30, 2010 2:37 PM

    Didn’t see the play , but sounds vicious

  42. js136202 says: Aug 30, 2010 2:38 PM

    I am as sick as anyone of QB’s being babied by the rules in the NFL, but when a guy isn’t even making a football play and levels a defenseless QB way after the play, a suspension is in order.

  43. weswelkerspornstash says: Aug 30, 2010 2:41 PM

    Sometimes rookies have to learn the hard way… Fine him huge. It’s the preseason

  44. Flipadelphia says: Aug 30, 2010 2:41 PM

    Let this be a lesson to all of you. Suh is coming to kill your quarterback….and if he doesnt then KVB will.
    And for the Green Bay fan that claims Delmas cheap shots….quit being such a baby…we all know your talking about that lick he put on Finleys punk ass last year. To be as big as he is Finley sure is a soft little btch.

  45. FinFan68 says: Aug 30, 2010 2:41 PM

    Fine, yes; suspension, no

  46. Laxer37 says: Aug 30, 2010 2:44 PM

    Who’s Seneca Wallace?
    -Big Suh

  47. Wet Paper Bag says: Aug 30, 2010 2:44 PM

    Whoa….wait a minute. You think it’s cool for a Lions player to Illegally grab a QB’s facemask, horsecollared, and then thrown to the turf? But it’s okay to insinuate that James Harrison is a dirty player for a LEGAL hit? Real classy Florio…real classy.

  48. MrEffs420 says: Aug 30, 2010 2:45 PM

    prophet of the light says:
    August 30, 2010 2:18 PM
    What does Seneca Wallace know about playing football. He sits on a bench.
    ———————————————
    i’m guessing he probably knows more than your ignorant spectator self does.

  49. fleet10 says: Aug 30, 2010 2:45 PM

    if an unintentional hand to the helmet of the QB while in the process of pass-rushing results in a 15-yard penalty, this is absolutely a suspension.
    The face-mask? fine, he’s was rushing, and got the 15-yard penalty for it. To have the inability to stop there? Uh, 2nd overall pick, 21-22 year old kid, over 300 lbs, and did that to Jake, 35-year old 210-215 lbs., and you Lions fans think he’s a “tough” guy!! Haha.
    And to echo what quite a few posters said before, you know damn well if that was Peyton, Brady, Brees, or any number of other “high” profile QB’s, 2 game suspension, at least. If you don’t think so, you’re fooling yourself.

  50. jebdamone says: Aug 30, 2010 2:46 PM

    i saw the play live, have no allegiance to either of these teams and will say that suh should get a hefty fine and probably be suspended for a game. the face mask, whatever, it happens. but the grabbing of the head, twisting an tossing down was pretty brutal. like another poster, though, i am most surprised (and concerned?) that no one on the browns team did anything about it. suh should have been immediately attacked by the entire browns defensive line, instead they just stood there and acted like nothing happened. way to have your QBs back boys…even if it is jake delhomo.

  51. DeLions00 says: Aug 30, 2010 2:49 PM

    @GBfanForever,
    I’d be scared too if I knew Suh was going to be rocking Rodgers all game through that sponge you call an offensive line.

  52. stan26 says: Aug 30, 2010 2:49 PM

    I saw the play.
    It is totally uncalled for and he could easily broken his neck.
    He definitely should be suspended and fined.
    Football is a violent game, but that kind of play is uncalled for and dangerous. The QB was lucky he wasn’t really hurt. 3 serious penalties on one play!

  53. spartyfi says: Aug 30, 2010 2:50 PM

    “Donkey Kong Suh was just frustrated that he isn’t playing against Baylor any longer. The Steeler’s Pouncey schooled him the week before.”
    #1, it was 2 weeks ago and #2, Pittsburgh doubled him the ENTIRE time he was on the field so Pouncey did no such thing. Game 1 of preseason and your team had to double team a rookie who’d never played in an NFL game before…..yeah, keep trying to pump Pouncey up but anyone that saw that game know’s you are full of it!
    I guess when you have ignorant people writing the articles you’re going to have ignorant people like BAtkins63 commenting on them.

  54. I Din Do Nuffin says: Aug 30, 2010 2:53 PM

    Yep just another thug. It’s only a matter of time before this sport is ruined, because NFL teams keep drafting these thugs. It’s almost to the point where I don’t even want to watch it any more, and I know alot of people who feel the the same way. Maybe if ticket sales go down because of it things will start to change.

  55. spartyfi says: Aug 30, 2010 2:55 PM

    you know, after reading all the posts and articles after the game I was expecting to get home and watch something violent….people, it really wasn’t nearly as bad as some are making it out to sound…yes, he had a facemask, then wrapped him up by the head and tossed him. He didn’t realize that ball was gone (his possible defense). Yes, you fine him (he can afford it) and you talk to him and explain that any such action in the future will result in suspension but to suspend him for a harmless rag doll toss in the preseason is just plain dumb!

  56. BenRapistberger says: Aug 30, 2010 2:57 PM

    You can’t really blame Suh for this. The Lion’s coaching staff doesn’t bother training the D-line on what to do once they get to the QB because it never really happens. I mean honestly, who could have predicted this?

  57. simple_simon1 says: Aug 30, 2010 2:57 PM

    You all are idiots…. Suspension? Come on, give me a break.
    First, he unintentionally tried to grab Delhomme in the heat of the battle and grabbed the facemask. Fair enough…. Then you can easily see that he has no idea the ball has been thrown away and he mangles Delhomme, as the whistle hasn’t gone yet. He’s a rookie that’ll be fined, enough said. And he’ll learn as he goes.
    All you morons saying that he’s a “thug”, etc, etc have no clue. Football is a brutal sport and things happen in the heat of battle. He’s a rookie and he’ll learn. If he does it again, then you suspend him. For now, a fine is warranted, that’s all.

  58. faulkn22 says: Aug 30, 2010 2:58 PM

    Suh thinks Wallace better watch his glass jaw.
    Yeah it was ruthless, this is a ruthless game. In my opinion, he should get a fine and nothing more. First offense, nuff said. If he made a habit of it, sure, you can suspend. But I can’t think of any on the field incidents that were first time offenses that led to suspensions.
    To the dipshit that said Pouncey owned, Suh, lmfao. Suh got doubled every single play. EVERY…. SINGLE… PLAY. That speaks to what kind of respect the Steelers have for him. Pouncey didn’t own anything but a nasty yellow jersey.
    Also, we beat the shit out of your oline. When the second stringers came out, you barely did better. Not what you’d expect from the Steelers, chump.
    Now, the Browns did a much better job of neutralizing the detroit d-line. They did so by using a hurry up offense and throwing a screen pass every other play. I didn’t see them even try to use a five step drop or throw it deep. Not against the ones, anyway.

  59. faulkn22 says: Aug 30, 2010 3:00 PM

    The only news here is that the Browns o-line didn’t back up their QB. It means 1, they either don’t respect Delhomme yet, and or 2, they were scared shitless of Suh.
    Q. What are we hunting?
    A. Quarterback.

  60. Kirmie says: Aug 30, 2010 3:02 PM

    fleet10 says: August 30, 2010 2:45 PM
    if an unintentional hand to the helmet of the QB while in the process of pass-rushing results in a 15-yard penalty, this is absolutely a suspension.
    The face-mask? fine, he’s was rushing, and got the 15-yard penalty for it. To have the inability to stop there? Uh, 2nd overall pick, 21-22 year old kid, over 300 lbs, and did that to Jake, 35-year old 210-215 lbs., and you Lions fans think he’s a “tough” guy!! Haha.
    ———–
    How would this be a suspension? Did you see the part where Delhomme was ruled “down” before Suh crossfaced him (that wasn’t a throw by Suh because he NEVER LEFT THE GROUND)? No, you didn’t. You can continue a play after getting facemasked. Delhomme should have gone down if he didn’t want to get smashed.

  61. Roxtar10 says: Aug 30, 2010 3:03 PM

    I think he should get the fine — a pretty heavy one after watching that twist again….and then I think the Lions should step in and pay for it!!!
    This is EXACTLY what a losing franchise needs….a message from the new face on defense to start the year.

  62. In & Out Burger says: Aug 30, 2010 3:05 PM

    I am NOT making a skill comparison in anyway, but Suh’s attitude reminds me of Mean Joe Green(e?). When Green came to the Steelers, they were awful, but his ‘refuse to lose’ attitude and his hall of fame skill, helped the Steelers become a dynasty in the ’70s. Like I said, I am not saying that Suh is going to be anywhere near one of the best defensive tackles to play the game, but his attitude is very similar, and if he does have the skill to match, maybe the Lions are on their way to better times.

  63. skoliotic says: Aug 30, 2010 3:05 PM

    This is seriously stupid. Obviously just a dumb play, but calling him a “thug” is pretty stupid. We watch football for the violence. Period. Im not saying he should have done it, but when you are a rookie, and your sole purpose is to inflict hurt on the quarterback, this kind of stuff happens. He knew he grabbed the facemask, removed his hands, then threw him down. If you watch the play, he seems to be unaware that he got the ball off. Do you want him to say sorry next time? Jesus, give him a huge ass fine, dont suspend the kid.
    If the ball is still in Jakes hands, there would be no talk of suspending him.

  64. trickbunny says: Aug 30, 2010 3:12 PM

    Flipadelphia says:
    August 30, 2010 2:41 PM
    Let this be a lesson to all of you. Suh is coming to kill your quarterback….and if he doesnt then KVB will.
    ————————————————-
    1. You’re a total idiot.
    2. Suh and KVB will be “killing” QBs while the Lions lose one game after the next.. so who cares?

  65. snik says: Aug 30, 2010 3:21 PM

    Suh was just getting out his frustration for being shutdown and dominated by a fourth round drafted rookie.

  66. DeLions00 says: Aug 30, 2010 3:22 PM

    trickbunny says:
    August 30, 2010 3:12 PM
    Flipadelphia says:
    August 30, 2010 2:41 PM
    Let this be a lesson to all of you. Suh is coming to kill your quarterback….and if he doesnt then KVB will.
    ——————– ——————– ———
    1. You’re a total idiot.
    2. Suh and KVB will be “killing” QBs while the Lions lose one game after the next.. so who cares?
    ————————————————-
    Oh, I forgot. There’s no QB in Philli to kill. It doesn’t matter how far or fast DeSean Jackson can run if noone is there to throw him the ball.

  67. donl517 says: Aug 30, 2010 3:23 PM

    Fine yes, suspension no.
    If you watch it in slow motion, he lets go of the face mask and tries to reestablish control of the ball carrier. Delhomme just happened to be falling down as Suh was trying to grab him, I’m sure he was trying to wrap him up around the shoulders not the head. Yes he threw him down but if had done it to a running back no one would even care. Now lets not forget the play didn’t happen in slow motion, took all of about 3/4 of a second. I really don’t think it was premeditated and deserving of a suspension. He also couldn’t know that Delhomme didn’t still have the ball.
    It’s not like Delhomme was laying on the ground and he picked him up and threw him down or stomped on his head or kicked him, it was a plain old full speed pro football play, nothing more. Fine him and move on.

  68. purpleguy says: Aug 30, 2010 3:24 PM

    Come on, the issue here is that the Lions now have a D-lineman capable of reaching a QBs facemask before the whistle blows.

  69. green man says: Aug 30, 2010 3:24 PM

    Think he’s angry now? Wait to see what 3 years of suck and 6 wins will do to his attitude.

  70. NJROAR says: Aug 30, 2010 3:25 PM

    The Facemask was the only penalty on the field. The throw down was legal, and you’re taught to play the whistle. He couldn’t tell if the ball was thrown at that point, so he did his job.
    Suh has consistently been double teamed. The few times he hasn’t, he’s made linemen look like rag dolls. Even on this play, he fought through a double team before getting to Jake.
    The reaction to this might bring a fine, but nothing he did is a fine-able offense. He played the whistle.

  71. thehelgo says: Aug 30, 2010 3:27 PM

    @ prophet of the light
    and what do you know about football – you just post on a message board…..

  72. Kirmie says: Aug 30, 2010 3:29 PM

    Roxtar10 says: August 30, 2010 3:03 PM
    I think he should get the fine — a pretty heavy one after watching that twist again….and then I think the Lions should step in and pay for it!!!
    ————–
    The only twist of the head comes from the facemask, which I could easily see a fine for. There was no twist when Suh crossfaced him though. That has been done to me in wrestling and been done by me hundreds of times.

  73. Sam says: Aug 30, 2010 3:29 PM

    Fine? Probaly suspension? Hell no for all the idiots that say suspension fine or both think logically what did this guy just get paid big money for? Obliterating QBs ok fine him 25k that works for basically unnesecary roughness but if you suspend him that’s a game check in the neighborhood of 8 to 10 times that and also loss of playing time. Ok it was brutal but he didn’t tom baby it and plead with the refs and cry whine and jump on one foot delhomme took it like a man got back up and went back to work. The fine will teach him to refine his approach a suspension could possibly ruin him if evertime he gets a shot at a QB he thinks “suspension” he won’t be no where near as effective if it were a big guy like rothlisberger or rivers it wouldn’t have looked as bad besides the face mask. So really people think logically and unless you only watch your teams offense I’m pretty sure your cool with some good QB wrecking from your own team.

  74. Wonderlicker says: Aug 30, 2010 3:33 PM

    “We also think that Lions fans are glad that they finally have someone on the team who will grab the face mask of a quarterback, twist his head like it was a cork in a champagne bottle, and then throw the quarterback to the ground.”
    Not funny.

  75. faulkn22 says: Aug 30, 2010 3:40 PM

    “College, high school or youth, he would’ve been ejected.”
    ———————————————–
    It’s obvious that you never watched Suh play college ball, lmao.

  76. js136202 says: Aug 30, 2010 3:42 PM

    You can tell from the comments on here that most of the readers didn’t actually see the play happen. When it happened live I said “they need to toss him from the game for that.” When I saw the replay, it was twice as bad.
    So many of you idiots confuse this type of play with toughness, false bravado, and hard-nosed football. Hard nosed football is hitting a guy holding the football with every ounce of your strength, leveling a guy with a block, or decking a receiver.
    Hard nosed, tough football isn’t throwing a QB to the ground in a manner that could have just as easily caused serious injury.
    What you morons are failing to grasp is that Suh has been aggrivated by the frequent double-teams and he was letting off some steam and frustration. If I was on a defense that was being decimated by a 35-year-old has been and a bunch of no-namers, I’d be frustrated too.

  77. whatisaid says: Aug 30, 2010 3:50 PM

    1. It would be nice to see the Lions refine 2nd pick potential into a football player rather than a WWE wrestler that costs us 15 yard penalties. That’s exactly what we DON’T need.
    2. Exciting bone-crushing hits should be encouraged in the NFL, trying to twist off a player’s head should result in a suspension -regardless of the player.
    3. Who is your qb? Eli? McNabb? Favre? Schaub? Roethlisberger? If this happened to your qb would it be acceptable? If Suh is not suspended and an identical play would happen to end Peyton Manning’s career it would be really bad for the NFL. A long career of excellence could be ended by one reckless, idiot play. I’m surprised this is even an issue.

  78. ftomeo says: Aug 30, 2010 3:51 PM

    Fine, not suspension, mostly because it occurred so fast by a dumb rookie who doesn’t know yet. But anyone saying, he should have went down or it wasn’t a throw or he couldn’t know if he had the ball or there was nothing illegal about it are nuts… When he slams his arms down and around Delhomme, Delhomme literally crumples to his knees. When Suh gets his arm fully wrapped around his neck, you see him actually drive him a little further to the ground for a fraction of a second before he rips him up (almost taking him off the ground) and bends him over backwards in half. Suh jumps up and down on the first movement and almost lifts off the ground again himself on the second backward, bent-in-half movement.
    Even if he had his eyes closed, the sense of touch would have told him that Delhomme was now 2.5 feet shorter and something (like the ground) stopped his downward movement.

  79. Omega says: Aug 30, 2010 3:56 PM

    Long term this will not be a problem. If Suh continues to abuse QBs like this the eventually he will have no knees left.
    Simple.

  80. Five Times the Royalty says: Aug 30, 2010 3:56 PM

    I am not a Lions fan by any measure, but I think the mentality of those that say these types of complaints water down the NFL is just absurd. Yes, the NFL is a violent sport. No, that doesn’t excuse blatant attempts to hurt players, QB or otherwise. The NFL was once made up of fierce warriors who, at the same time, played the game with a sense of dignity and pride in the sport that prevented them from intentional hits after the whistle and other such rule violations with the justification of, “I’m willing to take the fine if it means the other guy is out for the rest of the season.” If players (and coaches, Gregg Williams!) continue to degrade what the league is and was by turning it into a slow, 22 man UFL fight, then yes, they should be suspended. This type of behavior disgraces the league as much, if not more than, off-the-field incidents that carry suspensions.

  81. SomeFans says: Aug 30, 2010 4:03 PM

    who are the lions?….. thought so.

  82. DB26 says: Aug 30, 2010 4:06 PM

    Browns fan here:
    A) Definitely excessive…. Just was really unnecessary and unwarranted.
    B) I would say a hefty fine, if he shows this to be a habit, then suspend. I am all for big hits on the QB, but to grab the facemask, jerk it, grab the dude & fling him down is just a lil too much.
    C) I have to agree with one poster. You made James Harrison seem like the devil for lowering his shoulder & gaining extra yards diving forward as an offensive player, then you think it is cute that Suh mauled Delhomme. Your a tool.
    D) @ MotorCityKitty…. It is one thing to be a fan & act like your player did nothing. We all do it as fans. But, you are dillusional if you think that was just normal football. Not even close!

  83. Percy Headachin says: Aug 30, 2010 4:07 PM

    As a Husker fan living in Nebraska I have seen every Suh game and the guy throws qbs to the ground routinely. After he has them he throws them down like Reggie White did. He does not drive threw to the ground like all other D lineman. He grabs the qb and throws him. End of story. If the NFL suspends him for it then he will miss games every year.

  84. Omega says: Aug 30, 2010 4:09 PM

    @ Sam
    Big Ben 6-5 240 lbs
    Rivers 6-2 228
    Jake 6-2 215
    My guess is that any of these QB’s would look like a rag doll if Suh grabs the face mask and then WITH leverage twists the helmet while lifting the BQ for a body slam.
    One game check is relative. Suh should be suspended and pay the fine. In the long run it might be the best thing for the Lions.

  85. fastfred21 says: Aug 30, 2010 4:10 PM

    those lame ass refs were letting the brownies O-line hold all game without a call when it was obvious to everyone else, gee I wonder why he had some frustration–suh probably thought “ya be holding and double teaming me all game–how ya like this”!

  86. BlueLion01 says: Aug 30, 2010 4:11 PM

    I am a Lions fan. I agree that Suh should get fined and suspended, but for a preseason game.
    People, it is preseason. He is a rookie. He was frustrated. He did something dumb.
    Let it GO.
    IF he continues the pattern of harming QB’s illegaly, then punish him; fine and suspension.

  87. AllThat says: Aug 30, 2010 4:15 PM

    Suspend him the last pre season game.
    Done…..

  88. Vee says: Aug 30, 2010 4:21 PM

    Stafford was the first ray of hope when he came back in to throw the winning TD pass – even though he was hurt and could’ve (probably should’ve) stayed out. Now you have a mean SOB to speahead the defense. This is the beginning of success in Detroit.
    And this from sombody who knows a thing or two about long suffering fans – I’m from N.O. It takes tough, hard nosed leadership on both sides of the ball (Brees & Sharper) to set a winning tone. The Lions have their young starting pieces to build on.

  89. overkil2 says: Aug 30, 2010 4:22 PM

    I just saw the replay and while he did throw the QB on the ground, I doubt he will get suspended.
    He will probably get a hefty fine and a warning.
    It was uncalled for, but in the heat of the moment, I’m sure he wasn’t thinking too clearly. It doesn’t make it right, but I don’t think he was out to purposely hurt Delhomme.
    It was his first time doing this in the nfl, that’s why I don’t think he will get suspended.

  90. TXBuckeye says: Aug 30, 2010 4:23 PM

    Grabbing someone by the head to tackle them is nonsense. It doesn’t matter if he thought he had the ball or not. You DO NOT grab a player by the head, twist, and slam. This is not football. Those of you think it is, need to go watch reruns of the XFL or WWE.

  91. contract says: Aug 30, 2010 4:25 PM

    Hold on a second … you think that James Harrison is going to get fined for being the hitter rather than the hittee on a fumble return … but you’re not sure if Suh should get suspended for attempting to decapitate a QB after he throws the football and then slamming him to the ground?
    Seriously?
    Suh should be sitting out the first game of the season for that cheap shot.

  92. faulkn22 says: Aug 30, 2010 4:26 PM

    Obviously Percy Headachin watched Suh play college ball, but a good portion of you didn’t, lol.
    I’m all for watching Suh toss quarterbacks like ragdolls. Get a better oline if you want to have a franchise qb. Seems pretty simple.
    PS: People seem to forget that it was the Browns that put Stafford on IR. Suh didn’t forget that.
    Hey Cutler, you’re next buddy. Better start patching that makeshift o-line or pray that Martz doesn’t leave you hanging out to dry. Suh and Co are coming.
    Q. What are we hunting?
    A. Quarterback.

  93. Moe says: Aug 30, 2010 4:35 PM

    this could have been handled easy, if i was the browns i would have just ran a play to that side and chop blocked him right kneee then see how ppl like that and if they praise the browns like they praising suh for being so tuff

  94. OVERPOWER OVERCOME says: Aug 30, 2010 4:38 PM

    My fellow Browns’ fans love Joe Turkey Jones for planting Terry Bradshaw on his dome, but thing Suh should be suspended?
    Quit complaining, guys.

  95. 34Trap says: Aug 30, 2010 4:43 PM

    It looks like the facemasking part was an accident, but then he continued trying to bring him down.
    Maybe he thought Delhomme still had the ball?
    He’ll probably get fined, but I think a suspension would be excessive.

  96. Danwhitmer says: Aug 30, 2010 4:50 PM

    Suh was just mad because he was mugged twice on the way to the stadium. Get use to it big fella, your in D-town lol

  97. Omega says: Aug 30, 2010 4:54 PM

    @ Blue Lion.
    Idiot. Homer. It does not matter if a violent act is committed in a preseason game. The RULES still apply. Otherwise your precious QB Stafford might end up on a golf cart in meaningless game. How would you feel about that?
    It was a bullsh*t play. But not to worry if he continues to play dirty he won’t have any knees left by mid-season.
    Simple

  98. simple_simon1 says: Aug 30, 2010 4:55 PM

    Both Delhomme and Mangini have said they don’t believe Suh was being malicious, just a rookie learning and caught in the moment. He made a mistake. Fine him and move on.
    If he does it again, suspend him. He knew he was wrong the moment after he realized the QB no longer had the ball. Until he threw him it doesn’t look like he knew the ball was gone. Unfortunate, a bit over the top in appearance, but done and done.

  99. js136202 says: Aug 30, 2010 5:16 PM

    Will you people stop talking about Suh “thinking he had the ball?”
    So what, if he still had the ball, you are supposed to grab him by the face and smash him to the ground like a rag doll?
    Faulkn22,
    The Browns injured Stafford on a clean hit on the QB, administered by the rules of the game and not by grabbing him by his genitals, throwing him into a brick wall, and then driving over him in a 67 Chevy.

  100. _ROCKSTAR_ says: Aug 30, 2010 5:46 PM

    My problem with the play is that they should have called 3 different penalites on him and made each one count. If you get a personal foul then and other penalty should be tacked on to it.
    -Roughing the passer, blow to the head.
    -Face mask.
    -Roughing the passer, thowing him to the ground.

  101. ftomeo says: Aug 30, 2010 5:56 PM

    js136202, I don’t get it either. Again, take a look: Delhomme is on his knees when he gets thrown! Does Suh think the QB can still throw the ball from a downed position? Do these fans? He is thrown from his damn knees! Suh already hammered him to the ground with his leaping arms to the neck attack!

  102. bluelion says: Aug 30, 2010 5:57 PM

    Jake was Suh’d.
    What do you expect from a dude who’s name means ‘House of Spears?’
    Clearly, he has yet to be fully pacified by the white man.

  103. Wildcat67 says: Aug 30, 2010 6:01 PM

    WAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
    Jesus, the vaginas are out in force.

  104. T Big says: Aug 30, 2010 6:45 PM

    Come on it was not the first face mask penalty in the NFL. What are we playing powder puff football now?

  105. BAtkins63 says: Aug 30, 2010 6:52 PM

    spartyfi
    bullshot. Pouncey played RG for part of the game and bitch slapped Donkey Kong… no double team needed.

  106. JaggedMark says: Aug 30, 2010 8:34 PM

    Are they going to fine Corkscrew Suh, or not?

  107. Tetsuo says: Aug 30, 2010 8:36 PM

    Looked like a clean hit to me. And the facemask was clearly incidental.

  108. faulkn22 says: Aug 30, 2010 8:41 PM

    BAtkins… you are out of your damned mind, and I say that as nicely as I possibly can.
    Suh has been single manned once in all of the preseason (I’m talking pass attempts) and he pancaked the everliving shit out of the poor guy (Broncos 76, I believe).
    Dude, you are taking credibility away from Steelers fans and are really bringing the entire fanbase down a peg or two with the bullshit you’re spewing.
    Lions tore up the Steelers oline almost as bad as they did the Bronco’s.

  109. muchmaligned says: Aug 30, 2010 9:02 PM

    You pussies calling for a fine or a suspension should have that yeast infection looked at. It’s a goddamn football game. That is not the last time Jake will will end up getting his head twisted this season.
    Suh sent a message to every QB in the league. Do you smell it?

  110. superb owl says: Aug 30, 2010 9:17 PM

    the lions cant afford him to draw loads of penalties or miss games.
    they have zero margin.
    and if stafford had the same thing happen to him, he would have folded like a house of cards.
    of course, playing smart was never a lion trait.

  111. thetechnocrat says: Aug 30, 2010 9:58 PM

    Fined maybe
    Suspended no
    If Jake was hurt, the Browns would’ve taken Ndoglicken Doo’s knees out. No harm, no foul. It’s preseason and I’m sure he’s been warned by his coaches to be more careful after the qb gets rid of the ball.

  112. fleet10 says: Aug 30, 2010 10:09 PM

    OVERPOWER OVERCOME says:
    August 30, 2010 4:38 PM
    My fellow Browns’ fans love Joe Turkey Jones for planting Terry Bradshaw on his dome, but thing Suh should be suspended?
    Quit complaining, guys.
    ……………………………………………………………
    I too am a Browns fan, and I too, love the play of which you speak………
    HOWEVER,
    because of the huge disparity in rules and officiating now vs. then, that’s not a very appropriate comparison.

  113. Steve W. says: Aug 30, 2010 10:45 PM

    This isn’t a matter of being tough, or QBs being soft. I saw that play, and my first thought was that what Suh did is a very good way to break someone’s neck. You simply can’t let things like that happen…to anyone. I love to see big hits on the field, but this was just wrong. Even a rookie should know that you don’t grab anyone by the helmet, twist them around, and then throw them to the ground…all the while still latched on to their helmet. I’ve seen players ejected from games for doing things that weren’t even remotely as dangerous as what Suh did.

  114. whatisaid says: Aug 31, 2010 12:01 AM

    Right. Anyone opposed to this type of behavior must have a vagina. Or…could they possibly be opposed to one of their teams DEFENSIVE players converting on third down for the OTHER TEAM keeping a drive alive for a touchdown rather than a field goal? Suh is now personally responsible for adding 4 points to the opponent and what, 3 total tackles now? That’s a pretty good showing right? A career of taking out veteran QBs with actual talent while piling up losses in Detroit is great for the Lions and the NFL huh? But at least in that world everyone’s got a cock and balls just the way you like it.

  115. fangio28 says: Aug 31, 2010 8:14 AM

    I think Suh’s name should be pronounced
    just like it’s spelled: “suh”…as in “yes suh” or
    “no suh”……only, YOU tell HIM!

  116. Allied Biscuit says: Aug 31, 2010 5:24 PM

    if it happened like it is described, then he should be suspended. you could kill somebody doing that. but i haven’t seen the play.
    is this that time of year when Lions fans still have hope so they start ranting like they are going to win the division?

  117. SeaSteel says: Aug 31, 2010 6:46 PM

    Inexcusable. Why weren’t the Browns kicking his ass after that? As a Steeler fan, I miss that Cleveland/Pittsburgh rivalry of years ago (yes, you did well last year). Preseason or not, no way would the Brons of years past stood for that.

  118. kelevra says: Sep 1, 2010 4:22 AM

    I’m a browns fan and even I don’t think the hit requires a suspension. And what’s up with our O-line taking that crap like a bunch of grade school wimps.
    Your job is to protect the qb, you not only failed at your job, you let your qb get tossed by his head, like a bag of garbage.

  119. monropoobah says: Sep 1, 2010 5:59 AM

    jebdamone
    read a lot of these posts and yours was as dead on as any

  120. DidUplayTheGame says: Sep 1, 2010 11:30 AM

    Suspension? Please give me a break! This is a league for big boys.

  121. Tenntuxx says: Sep 1, 2010 11:39 PM

    “We’re not prepared to call for Suh to be suspended. But we think that he should be fined heavily, and that if he keeps playing that way he eventually should be suspended.”
    since WHEN are you not prepared to state your opinion???
    so basically you’re gonna wait until someone’s neck is broken to call for a suspension.
    SIT HIM DOWN…he needs to learn out the gate that this type of behavior is unacceptable. SO WHAT if he’s their top draft pick and makes millions. Keep looking the other way and you’ll have another Albert Haynesworth…

  122. Brewdogg says: Sep 2, 2010 11:42 PM

    The guy is vicious. He was the same way in college. Hard tackles and violent hits are one thing, but slamming a person to the ground that you have stopped and wrapped up is beyond uncalled for. This type of behavior needs to be stopped now, or someone will get hurt.

  123. tobyharrah2 says: Sep 3, 2010 8:16 PM

    I’m a Cleveland Browns fan for 35 years and what su did to jake was uncalled for. It wasnt like it was the superbowl or playoff game!! Besides, we Browns fans have been waiting quiet a good while for a decent qb and it coulda ended quickly as it happened!! The NFL shoulda suspended him for one game for it!! GO BROWNS!!!!!!!!

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