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With no progress whatsoever, Revis will show only if someone caves

NFL_revis1_250.jpgA week ago, Tim Cowlishaw of the Dallas Morning News and ESPN turned the Darrelle Revis drama upside down by reporting that a new deal between Revis and the Jets would happen on Wednesday or Saturday.  Though we took issue with Cowlishaw’s backhanded effort to admit his error, we at least respect him for not sticking to his guns and then claiming if/when a deal is done that he was right all along (unlike one of the others who hopped aboard the no-lose Revis railway).

The truth is that nothing’s happening.  They’re not close.  They’re not talking.  As Jay Glazer pointed out tonight on his Twitter page, the Jets don’t even know where Revis is.

But as the regular season approaches and as Antonio Cromartie proves that he’s not Revis and as the Jets’ defense takes a step backward via the injury to linebaker Calvin Pace, the gap can be bridged at any time if/when owner Woody Johnson decides that he’s had enough, and that he wants Revis back.

Revis also could cave, but it’s unlikely that he’ll do it before the regular season begins.  Though he’s under contract for three more years, the Jets have called their shot — and they need Revis in order to back up the boasting of Buddy Ryan’s son.

Gary Myers of the New York Daily News recently summarized the situation perfectly, and he has come the closest of anyone to identifying the core issue.

It’s not about total dollars.  It’s about guaranteed money.  As in truly and fully guaranteed money. 

Myers explains that the Jets’ offer includes $40 million in money guaranteed for injury only, and he notes that Revis’ agents claimed that “not one penny was fully guaranteed.”  Both statements are accurate.  An injury guarantee has value only if a career-ending injury occurs.  A career-limiting injury without a skill guarantee drops the player into a valley that could result in the team yanking the supposedly guaranteed contract away like the girl with the football in the Peanuts comic who loves to see Charlie Brown land flat on his ass.

If the two sides ever can strike a deal on fully guaranteed money, the rest of the deal will fall into place quickly. 

But before that can happen, someone will have to cave.  And before the season begins, the Jets would be the most likely to flinch.  Once the season starts, it’ll hinge on whether the Jets can shut down the Ravens, the Patriots, and the Dolphins without Revis.

If they can’t, it could be Emmit Smith and the 1993 Cowboys all over again, with the team writing the check for the amount the player wants.  If the Jets can win without Revis, it could be Sean Gilbert and the 1998 Redskins, with the player sitting out the whole season.

We continue to be amazed by the failure of the media at large to recognize the key role of Gilbert in his sister’s son’s current situation.  How many players who are holding out ever have had an uncle who has once been in the same boat, and who has sat out an entire year?

Our assessment of normal is shaped by our own personal experiences.  Revis was 13 when Uncle Sean dug in his heels and, according to former Redskins G.M. Charley Casserly, ended up with more money by skipping a full season of football.  So while Revis’ stand seems to cut against the grain of everything that the rest of us have witnessed while following the game of football, Revis has spent half of his life carrying around the memories of the year that Uncle Sean stuck it to the Redskins — and ultimately got what he wanted.

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57 Responses to “With no progress whatsoever, Revis will show only if someone caves”
  1. BigBear123 says: Aug 30, 2010 12:55 AM

    Mevis should have to sit out an additional year for breach of contract.

  2. JaggedMark says: Aug 30, 2010 1:00 AM

    Don’t need Revis.

  3. souser says: Aug 30, 2010 1:14 AM

    Am I the only soul that believes Revis will get his mega-contract and then immediately not live up to his 2009 stats and potential? Just curious…

  4. midwest says: Aug 30, 2010 1:15 AM

    Revis is the best shutdown corner in the league, Period. It is not even close. Without Revis, the Jets defense is crap. He is that good. He takes away the other team’s best WR.
    So the question is, do the Jets want to pay to have one of the best defenses in the league, or would they prefer to not pay and be average?
    There is no salary cap, and the Jets have a BOATLOAD of $$$$$ being in the biggest market in the NFL. Doesn’t matter. They prefer to be average.
    8-8!

  5. Nosredna says: Aug 30, 2010 1:25 AM

    Beavis should have thought of all this when he put his name on the contract in the first place.
    Time to man up, do what you said you would do, THEN go after more money…..you signed the contract, your agent told you it was a good deal. Not the Jets fault.
    Now grow up before they decide to have season 7 of LOST on Revis Island!

  6. In & Out Burger says: Aug 30, 2010 1:34 AM

    @BigBear123
    You always have to stupidest comments. Are you like a 12 year old kid, trolling, or just stupid?

  7. Bob Sacamano says: Aug 30, 2010 1:43 AM

    “The girl in the Peanuts comic”? You don’t know LUCY by name? For shame.

  8. AbeFreshly says: Aug 30, 2010 1:47 AM

    “Lucy”

  9. Joe Montana says: Aug 30, 2010 1:51 AM

    Stay strong Darrelle!! You earned the right to be the highest paid CB. @Big Bear teams should be sued for breach, when they cut players in the midst of their deal. Contracts should be honored by BOTH sides!!

  10. chipwade says: Aug 30, 2010 2:12 AM

    This is completely getting out of hand. There has got to be something the owners, NFLPA, and the comissioners office can do about the size of these contracts. Maybe they will with the next CBA. But if the league and owners continue to cave in to the absurd money demands by players and agents, the league won’t be around much longer. The cost to run the business(team) won’t be worth the investments that the owners are putting in. The business of continually one-upping contracts is going to run the NFL into the ground. Yes, Revis is an amazing and talented player. But the money being spent on players today is too much.
    This is starting to look like Major League Baseball.

  11. YouFools says: Aug 30, 2010 2:14 AM

    Oh please I doubt the guy is taking advice from his uncle. He’s surrounded by his agents and lawyers, but instead is going to take advice from his ignorant, uneducated uncle?
    As a Jet fan it pains me to say this but the reality is, that if he is under advisement from uncle Sean, theres no chance he’ll be with the Jets this year, and my beloved Jets will be, well the jests.

  12. Sociofan says: Aug 30, 2010 2:17 AM

    Yep. Uncle Sean. The man who made exactly one Pro Bowl his entire career. He cashed in on his way to Carolina and rewarded them with 15 1/2 sacks over the next 5 years. I’m pretty sure he could have fallen forward on the QB that many times and had the same number.
    So…there are two lessons to be learned here. The first by Revis, the second by the New York Jets. Let him sit.
    When I can get a $40M insurance policy for a hangnail that never lets me type again, I’ll pull for Darrelle. Until then, I’ve got absolutely no sympathy for his cause.

  13. RedLeg15 says: Aug 30, 2010 2:25 AM

    BigBear123 NFL ‘contracts’ are not guaranteed. On both ends. At any point during a players contract if the team deems a player not living up to the ‘contract’ they can cut them with no further money being paid.
    If a player out plays their contract. The only leverage a player has is to withhold their services.
    With a Head Coach that puts the praise on a player like Rex did. It leaves ownership with one option.
    Lose your best defensive player OR PAY HIM.

  14. Dave The Panther says: Aug 30, 2010 3:45 AM

    I wouldn’t give him one penny more than what he signed for. Then if he wanted to play half @$$ then I would sit him until his contract was up. By then no one will want him because he is a locker room distraction and MEVIS will drift off and setting for the old movie scene “I couldn’t been in the HALL”

  15. BP says: Aug 30, 2010 3:50 AM

    I still don’t understand what the problem is here. He has 3 years remaining on his contract. He can choose to not play all 3 years. End of story.
    It’s not like the jets are going to win anything with or without him anyway.

  16. dlmcc0909 says: Aug 30, 2010 3:54 AM

    the problem is this guy is looking for Peyton Manning money, and thats just ridiculous.

  17. YourJustJealous says: Aug 30, 2010 4:45 AM

    Why does PFT censor negative Tebow comments?
    Why does PFT allow a banner on their homepage prominently advertising Chinese made bootleg NFL Reebok jerseys?
    Why does PFT deny the accounts of people that point this out to readers?
    Florio, maybe you need to dust off your law books and study up.

  18. thetechnocrat says: Aug 30, 2010 4:47 AM

    Enough of these meaningless Mehole stories. Who cares about some around the horn doofus? His source was wrong. That sums it up, not twenty follow ups pointing it out. How about we talk about players in uniform? How about a page with just Mevis posts so that the vast majority of us don’t have to wade through the endless posts with no point, assassination of other writers, and meaningless details?

  19. Anthonym says: Aug 30, 2010 4:50 AM

    One other thing for Revis to consider, his uncle stunk after his holdout, that was a horrible contract for the team that traded for him. If I am the Jets I let him rot. Signing him now to an over the top contract will not be the reason why the Jets have a good year or not. They added Cromartie and Wilson and Pool. They will have a good secondary. Its all about Sanchez. If he is even just as good as he was in the playoffs they will have as good shot as anyone at making it to the SB. If he plays like he has in the preseason they could sign 3 Revis’s and they still won’t have a prayer.

  20. YourJustJealous says: Aug 30, 2010 4:53 AM

    Don’t say anything negative about Tim Tebow or PFT will block your account. Been told by too many people what Florio’s practice is.

  21. RexRyan'sStressedLapband says: Aug 30, 2010 5:36 AM

    Piece by piece, the Yets season is falling apart…but don’t try to tell Yets fans, because they think they’re going to the Super Bowl or something! Jackasses.

  22. Nsblend says: Aug 30, 2010 6:27 AM

    He should also have witness since he was 13 , how whacked out in the brain Al Davis is and should realize that the contract Namdi Asamouah is simply ludacris.
    If he wants a deal like that, request a trade to the raiders. Thats the only way he getting that money.

  23. phillyfinsfan says: Aug 30, 2010 6:35 AM

    The girl’s name is Lucy. Revis island is LOST.

  24. djeg07 says: Aug 30, 2010 6:41 AM

    let the bastard sit out, work out and get hurt see how fast something happens then. this is getting to become stupid as hell. glad the jets have paid a lot of other old over the hill players to help fill in errrr… start for them. lots of wated money for a team with a real punk ass at qb.
    here we go 8-8, an no playoffs
    jets annuslly suck, an after one good year they never repeat it the following year.
    go browns 11-5..hahaha

  25. william sizemore says: Aug 30, 2010 6:43 AM

    I hope Revis gets what he wants, after setting out a year, he sign a contract, be a man and live up to the contract,If he got hurt he would be crying about getting paid with out performing, and being useless to his team, I hope the Jets stick it to him as an example to the rest of this over paid spoiled players, perhaps then he will learn that its not all about me, however I doubt it, give him the money and if he gets hurt then the Jets can only look in the mirror as say we were saps. Bill

  26. jharmon64 says: Aug 30, 2010 6:57 AM

    He appears to be a terrific player and future hall of famer. But the bottom line is, he’s not Brady or Manning yet. He’s got no business holding out for that much money. No problem holding out for more, that is the nature of the business. But he’s not worth what he’s asking for.

  27. lololnpnp says: Aug 30, 2010 7:40 AM

    Jets have the final say for two reasons. First, this is not a Super Bowl team. Unless Revis can play offense his impact won’t be as great as they need it to be. Throw in a possible lockout next year and the fact he STILL HAS 3 YEARS left on his contract makes even more sense for the Jets not to cave. The other issue is Kyle Wilson. Cromartie was never Revis’ replacement, that distinction goes to Kyle. By all accounts he seems like a very talented cornerback who may not be up to Revis level but the dropoff won’t be huge. Revis and his cross eyed looking self can suck it.

  28. StreetBaller says: Aug 30, 2010 7:43 AM

    It is a shame Revis seems to be a puppet for Gilbert, who by any account was not a team player. And it’s well documented how much of a bust he was after the big contract, so he hurt both his Skins and Carolina teammates with his actions.
    It reminds me of the camp for the 85 Bears. They had been to the championship game the year before and had a chance to be special (sound familiar?). But Todd Bell and Al Harris, two starters on defense, held out. They were replaced and missed a chance to have a ring.
    QUESTION: I know he misses and accredited season, but if he holds out all year, does he only have two years left on his deal, or does the whole contract “shift” and leave him with 3 more years. Would be nice to get this kind of info.

  29. jcjets says: Aug 30, 2010 7:46 AM

    I think Rex Ryan is too prideful/stubborn to admit he needs Revis. Could be a big problem.

  30. Nsblend says: Aug 30, 2010 7:50 AM

    CJ2K: 550K, 2006 yds 14 TDs
    R Rice:385K, 1400yds 7Tds, 78 rec 700 yds
    Brady: 6.5 Mil, 4400yds, 28tds
    Moss: 6.4 mil, 1300yds, 13 yds
    Revis: 54 tackles 6 Int
    These are all game changers that produce TDs, sell jerseys, and change the outcome of games. Its obvious they all outpreform their contracts too but they are all in camp. Even CJ2K, after breaking one of the most prestigious records in football is still in camp with a reasonable deal.
    DBs dont deserve 16 Mil a year… bottom line
    Get off your Island and get to camp. Boldin, Moss, and Marshall first 3 weeks.

  31. Canetic says: Aug 30, 2010 8:01 AM

    The reason he is holding out is that he’s hanging his hat on one great season and he’s afraid that he’ll be exposed as not really that good when Brandon Marshall abuses him twice this year.

  32. Nsblend says: Aug 30, 2010 8:05 AM

    I think 16 million is perfect… Thats fine with me.. 4500yds 33Tds last season… Atleast 46395 yds, 340 TDs career… Face of the NFL … PROVEN Veteran… Cover of Wheaties Fuel Cereal… Spokesman for Sony… Gatorade Fuel …Without this man, his team loses. O wait, thats Peyton Manning.
    54 tackles 6 Int last season… 200 tackles 14 Ints career… You want how much $$ you want son?? 1st things 1st, urinate in this cup… what are you smoking??

  33. SomeFans says: Aug 30, 2010 8:09 AM

    Looks like a ploy to get away from the losing jets franchise. Revis know the future is bleak and that it is a collaspe waiting to happen under joke of a coach Wrecks Cryin.
    Revis wants “real” money from a “real” team.

  34. Unnamed Source says: Aug 30, 2010 8:18 AM

    souser says:
    August 30, 2010 1:14 AM
    Am I the only soul that believes Revis will get his mega-contract and then immediately not live up to his 2009 stats and potential? Just curious…
    agreed

  35. Benny Mendenberger-Ward says: Aug 30, 2010 8:20 AM

    Gilbert is Revis’ uncle.

  36. MoPackerFan says: Aug 30, 2010 8:28 AM

    The only numbers in football contracts that matter are the guaranteed ones. Everything after year 3 that is not guaranteed is fluff for the media and the agents.
    If the Jets are unwilling to guarantee any of the money then why would Revis even consider signing a new deal.
    Revis is being punished according to the terms of the CBA. He is fined daily for missing work and will lose game checks starting week 1.
    They can make up whatever numbers they want 10 years 160m, but it is all about the guarantees the rest is just numbers to get everyone all worked up.

  37. EverybodyGotAIDS says: Aug 30, 2010 8:33 AM

    This guy is worth an extra win or two over the course of the season. What he does against top-tier passing games shouldn’t be understated. Without Revis shutting down Moss last year, the Jets lose that first game against the Patriots.
    So they need to pay this guy, or their 8-8 season could quickly spiral down to 6-10.

  38. Steve W. says: Aug 30, 2010 8:44 AM

    @midwest,
    Are you really that uninformed. First off, I’m not a Raiders fan, but at the very least, you’d have to say that Asoughma falls in the “close” category. QBs go out of their way to not throw the ball in his direction, and he locks down his receiver without much help (everyone, including Revis, has safety help from time to time). Oh, and he’s been doing it for years, while Revis has only played at that level for one year. So, as for no one being even close, that’s just wrong.
    You also seem to be forgetting that the lack of a salary cap is for this year only. As soon as there is a new cba, there will be a new salary cap. So, overpaying any one player to this degree could leave them in salary cap trouble when it comes back into effect. FYI, the Jets are already would be above the salary cap if it were in place. Seeing as how the owners are looking to give the players a lesser share of the revenue, I don’t think the salary cap will be increasing. Unless they have to increase the size of the rosters when they go to an 18 game regular season of course. Even then, they won’t have more money to spend on one player. You’re also completely ignoring issues such as operational funds and cash flow. There’s a big difference between a team’s value and their liquidity. Not to mention, the Giants are the ultra-valuable franchise. The Jets are the red-headed stepchildren of NY athletics when it comes to revenue production. If you don’t believe me, check how quickly the Giants sold their PSLs, and how long it’s taking the Jets to do the same. The Jets just invested a lot of capital into that new stadium, so they’re probably not too cash rich right now. Giving Revis the kind of contract he wants (with huge guarantees and signing bonus) could put a serious dint in the Jet’s operational funds given their stadium investment. Finally, if the success or failure of a team’s defense truly depended entirely on one player, then they’re already an average defense. Is the Jets defense better with Revis? Of course, but they can still get the job done without him. The real problem for the Jets is their offensive production. Revis can’t help with that.

  39. Pastabelly says: Aug 30, 2010 8:48 AM

    souser says:
    August 30, 2010 1:14 AM
    Am I the only soul that believes Revis will get his mega-contract and then immediately not live up to his 2009 stats and potential? Just curious…
    Yes, you are the only soul who believes that. Revis is the best defensive player in the AFC and maybe the NFL
    Florio’s analysis is pretty much dead on. If the Jets are as serious about the Super Bowl as Ryan’s bluster, then they need Revis in there shutting down the #1 WRs in sixteen games.

  40. David LeFebvre says: Aug 30, 2010 8:49 AM

    Revis’ holdout will be used as an excuse when the Jets fail to live up to expectations this year.

  41. KoaMisiFan says: Aug 30, 2010 8:54 AM

    “the problem is this guy is looking for Peyton Manning money, and thats just ridiculous.”
    ——————————————-
    Then, his coach shouldn’t have told him he was “the best player in the game” because that (by some) used to be Peyton.

  42. Bradenton Buc says: Aug 30, 2010 9:06 AM

    Revis stay home. Lockout next year. No pay check for 2 years! See what your value will be then.

  43. TheTitanofNewYork says: Aug 30, 2010 9:10 AM

    Will someone at PFT or the media, please discuss the relationship between a season long hold out from Revis and the chance of no football in 2011?
    If he holds out this season, sits out the next, what kind of money does he expect to earn?
    Honest Opinion, after this past friday’s game, Revis will be back with a one year large signing bonus to make him play this season. If not, the week one and two tickets I bought, might mean a rough two weeks!

  44. jcjets says: Aug 30, 2010 9:39 AM

    good article at nyjetscap.com regarding mangold’s contract, and while the contract’s not fully guaranteed, its structured to be highly prohibitive for the jets to cut him within the first 3 years, where he’ll bank $22+ million.
    My guess is the Jets want to do this kind of deal with Revis, but his side want’s a more traditional guaranteed upfront and funded deal. Problem is, you really aren’t seeing those kinds of deals happen. It will be interesting to see if Brady or Manning gets a deal before week 1 and how its structured.

  45. TheBuzzOnNY.com says: Aug 30, 2010 9:40 AM

    If Revis wants to sit out thats his perogative. I agree he should get a nice raise since he is the best corner in the NFL. But if he wants to hold out for this insane amount of money then the Jets should let him sit for the remaining “3″ years of the contract. Lets see how much money he makes when he is not on a field for 3+ years.

  46. MotorCityKitties says: Aug 30, 2010 9:48 AM

    The Jets understand they have all the leverage here. Revis would have to sit out for 3 years to technically become a free agent. What will Revis be like after sitting on the couch for 3 years?? A has-been. I’m not a Jets fan but he will sign sooner then later, bank on it.

  47. Dapollock says: Aug 30, 2010 10:00 AM

    Just
    End
    The
    Stupidity
    on both sides. please.

  48. Drat says: Aug 30, 2010 10:07 AM

    I complain about Florio often enough I ought to say this: He’s been on top of the Revis situation from the beginning and he seems to understands it thoroughly, and his posts have been very informative.

  49. sdffa11 says: Aug 30, 2010 10:11 AM

    if revis thinks he’s as great as he and everyone says he is, he should sign an incentive laden contract that says you have to play X snaps, make the pro bowl, make the AP all pro team, have X ints, have X tackles, etc. he knows he’ll never have as great a year as last which is why he’ll hold out. the jets would be stupid to blink first.

  50. StreetBaller says: Aug 30, 2010 10:12 AM

    Steve W…
    Very well put. I believe they will reamain at an impasse. Revis’ “people” (his uncle more than his agents) have him convinced that he “only” misses out on a million this year by holding out, and forces a trade to get some value. Ripe for a rich dirtbag like Snyder to be whispering that kind of crap in his ear. Maybe hoping to somehow get free under a new CBA, if it happens.
    Jets rely on the fact he has three more years he is contracted for, want to pay him something fair, but are not going to make an exception for a crazy contract, and go down that slippery slope already created by the foolish Asoughma contract.
    A line in the sand has been drawn, and I fear no one will cross it. Revis’ pride/uncle/advisors will prevent him from looking like he “caved”, though I still fail to see how a fair contract is caving. Sucks for football fans, not just Jets fans.
    No one answered my question, maybe you know, Florio…would Revis have two years left, or three, if he holds out?

  51. FinFan68 says: Aug 30, 2010 10:19 AM

    Revis does not deserve what he is asking for. The Jets system is at least part of the reason for his rise in production. They have other CBs that can play without a huge dropoff. People are complaining about the teams’ ability to cut a player that no longer is able to perform and use that as justification for holdouts. That is insane. Why should a team pay an unproductive player? If the player is performing he doesn’t get cut. There are times when finances cause players to get cut but they can sign another contract with any team so that argument is total BS. He is just a selfish, egotistical, delusional narcissist that needs to be put in his place. The funny part is he is paying his agents for this horrible advice. He is a good player but he is not great…several years of sustained production is what makes a player great…not 1 decent year followed by a good one. Grow up and honor the contract that you made a point to hold out for. I would feel the same way if this jackass were on the dolphins. Bravo Jets for the way you are handling this “boy”…a real man would honor his contract and work something out.

  52. EverybodyGotAIDS says: Aug 30, 2010 10:45 AM

    FinFan68 says:
    August 30, 2010 10:19 AM
    Revis does not deserve what he is asking for. The Jets system is at least part of the reason for his rise in production. They have other CBs that can play without a huge dropoff. People are complaining about the teams’ ability to cut a player that no longer is able to perform and use that as justification for holdouts. That is insane. Why should a team pay an unproductive player? If the player is performing he doesn’t get cut. There are times when finances cause players to get cut but they can sign another contract with any team so that argument is total BS. He is just a selfish, egotistical, delusional narcissist that needs to be put in his place. The funny part is he is paying his agents for this horrible advice. He is a good player but he is not great…several years of sustained production is what makes a player great…not 1 decent year followed by a good one. Grow up and honor the contract that you made a point to hold out for. I would feel the same way if this jackass were on the dolphins. Bravo Jets for the way you are handling this “boy”…a real man would honor his contract and work something out.
    _______________________
    If he’s just a good player, why did his coach call him the best defensive player (or was it just best player) in the league? The Jets made their bed, now they need to lie in it. If you call a guy the best, REPEATEDLY, you can’t be surprised when he wants to be paid like the best.

  53. FinFan68 says: Aug 30, 2010 11:33 AM

    The Raiders (and a lot of other teams) said Jamarcus Russell was the best QB in the draft…Just because some moron says it does not make it true. Rex was trying to pump up his team…as is the case with most of his comments. Nobody can make a case for a DB to make as much as Revis wants. Paying Revis that much money is as big a mistake as what the Raiders did with “purple drank” Russell. Revis is a good player…not a great player. He is already making good money and the self-righteous morom threw away $20+M because he wantyed more. I have no pity for him. A decision like that points to his inability to see things objectively. He deserves to sit out, get fined every day, continue to pay his agents, ruin his career, and wonder “what could have been” for the rest of his life.

  54. frank says: Aug 30, 2010 11:49 AM

    If the Jets want to know where he is they should look in Aliquippa where he has been working out and staying with his mother.
    Don’t underestimate the power of his uncle in this or the other Aliquippa NFL connection including his cousin Ty Law.

  55. StreetBaller says: Aug 30, 2010 12:01 PM

    sooooo…would he have three seasons left on his contract or two if he holds out?
    Anyone?

  56. FinFan68 says: Aug 30, 2010 12:32 PM

    Revis Island is looking more like Gilligan’s Island every day.

  57. Calir says: Aug 30, 2010 3:33 PM

    Hopefully he’s been able to feed his family with the first 3 years of the contract.

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