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Al Harris headed to PUP list

Packers coach Mike McCarthy says cornerback Al Harris is “getting close” to returning to the field, but not close enough to play in the first six weeks of the season.

McCarthy told Jim Corbett of USA Today that Harris will be placed on the physically unable to perform/reserve list to start the season.  The news isn’t a surprise, and there remain questions about how effective Harris can be if and when he returns to the field this season.

Tramon Williams will start for the Packers, but the nickel back race remains wide open heading into the season with upstarted undrafted rookie Sam Shields making a late push to beat out Patrick Lee and Brandon Underwood.

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  1. JaggedMark says: Aug 31, 2010 5:02 PM

    That’s alright. Woodson is good enough to play Harris’s position and his own at the same time.

  2. petro says: Aug 31, 2010 5:04 PM

    He’d still find a way to get an illegal contact flag thrown on him while on it.

  3. ChillyP says: Aug 31, 2010 5:04 PM

    This is good news for the Packers. This will keep the penalties down for them at the start of the season. They won’t have to worry about the illegal contacts, holdings, pass interference, unsportsmanlike conduct etc from ole’ Al. The Packers should see a 75% reduction in their penalties with Al going on the PuP list.

  4. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Aug 31, 2010 5:12 PM

    this was expected, and with harris’s age and history how realistic is it to expect him to ever be able to contribute again, but it’s still very, very alarming for the pckers.
    besides woodson who is ancient, who else is there in the pckers 2ndary who is any good at all?? with bigby out you’ve got a 3rd round rookie at safety and an undrafted rookie who’s the best option at cb… plus the worst cover lb in the nfl in hawk and no pass rush besides matthews who is injured.
    and kampman, who was double teamed when he was playing last year and which led to most of matthews sacks, has left in free agency. and rodgers who was maybe the pack’s best starter on the d-line out for the year.
    i hate to say this but the 51 pts the pack gave up to the cards in the wc game may turn out to be the benchmark the pckers strive for in points against this season.

  5. BuckyBadger says: Aug 31, 2010 5:29 PM

    Yea ChillyP instead they will just get burned for touchdowns and scored on at will like the Cardinals and Steelers did last year once he went out. Really helped the team last year.

  6. mattgso says: Aug 31, 2010 5:30 PM

    Not the best news but our rooks look promising and in 6 weeks, Al will be primed.
    The vi-queens will have a hard time commenting on this one: Either they say Al sucked as a corner or that Al was great and this hurts GB.

  7. Sankey_GB2LA says: Aug 31, 2010 5:32 PM

    If you don’t think this hurts the Packers then you have no concept of the depth they have in the secondary.

  8. CanadianVikingFan says: Aug 31, 2010 5:38 PM

    JaggedMark says:
    August 31, 2010 5:02 PM
    That’s alright. Woodson is good enough to play Harris’s position and his own at the same time.
    ————————–
    Kurt Warner thinks different.

  9. howitzer819 says: Aug 31, 2010 5:46 PM

    Sam Shields was a crap receiver at Miami who same how became a crap corner at Miami who is now going to be a corner for the Packers? And on top of that he’s one of the dumbest people on the planet? Ain’t that America.

  10. Bob Nelson says: Aug 31, 2010 5:46 PM

    With a roster overflowing with talent the Packers got their roster to 75 without any cuts.
    Ted Thompson is a genius!!

  11. Percy Nugz says: Aug 31, 2010 5:46 PM

    LOL to the pack fans who just ripped the Vikings for Chris Cook getting injurned. That’s some fast karma!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRAzy6hNVSs

  12. lebowski says: Aug 31, 2010 5:59 PM

    Shit.

  13. bogmon says: Aug 31, 2010 6:04 PM

    Percy Nugz and the rest of the Vikings LUV to post that video of Al Harris gettin’ knocked down by AP….but they ALL forget that Harris took Peterson OUT OF THE GAME just a season before….despite your selective memory and denial..YES…it happened.

  14. GBISFULLOFFATTIES says: Aug 31, 2010 6:08 PM

    Sankey_GB2LA says:
    August 31, 2010 5:32 PM
    If you don’t think this hurts the Packers then you have no concept of the depth they have in the secondary.
    *****************************************
    I don’t recall in the history of any sport having your back up players be as good if not better than the starters, makes no sense! This does impact their secondary. thanks but nice try.

  15. gregjennings says: Aug 31, 2010 6:11 PM

    This is great news!!! The others will hold down the fort and Al Harris will be a solid mid-season addition for the Pack down the stretch.

  16. Crigs says: Aug 31, 2010 6:15 PM

    The Packers play four bad offenses in their first six games so it actually might be a good thing to get some of these youngsters some real game experience. Obviously not having Harris for the first six weeks isn’t a positive thing but at least it’s during the soft part of the schedule.
    Once again we have Gravy acting like he knows what he’s talking about. Matthews best games actually came after Kampman went down for the season. Matthews was injured at the beginning of the season and didn’t even start the first month. Nice try though.
    And I see in the other threads you’re saying Raji should’ve been an immediate starter last year as high as he was taken. He held out for a short time and then missed almost the entire training camp with an ankle injury. How does a rookie who misses training camp become a bust because he wasn’t starting? I have to correct your falsehood’s almost every dang post.

  17. zod says: Aug 31, 2010 6:18 PM

    A. This was expected
    B. This was expected
    C. He’ll be in time to take care of Sidney Ricecakes
    I guess there haven’t been any surprise cuts for Florio to pimp.

  18. P-townPacker says: Aug 31, 2010 6:19 PM

    Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says:
    August 31, 2010 5:12 PM
    …besides woodson who is ancient…
    Wow, this is from a person who defends BrINT’s last year’s numbers when people call him old, but the guy you just “dogged” won Defensive Player of the Year and you call him ancient? You do know he’s younger than your “old nemesis,” who you defend?

  19. Green Bastard says: Aug 31, 2010 6:22 PM

    Percy Nugz says:
    August 31, 2010 5:46 PM
    LOL to the pack fans who just ripped the Vikings for Chris Cook getting injurned. That’s some fast karma!!
    How is that Karma? Harris was injured last year and the packers still had a top 3 defense. It would be karma is packer fans ripped the vikings and than Harris got hurt.
    “and kampman, who was double teamed when he was playing last year and which led to most of matthews sacks, has left in free agency. and rodgers who was maybe the pack’s best starter on the d-line out for the year”
    This whole paragraph doesnt make sense Sconnie Gravy

  20. mrcmos says: Aug 31, 2010 6:26 PM

    Unlike the Viqueens, the Pack will “Adapt and Overcome”. ‘Nuff Said.
    LET THE GAMES BEGIN AND THE VIQUEEN’S MULTIPLE EXCUSES TO SOON FOLLOW.

  21. goombar2 says: Aug 31, 2010 6:28 PM

    Pack fans knew Al would start on PUP, we had a hope he wouldn’t… Big difference.
    It’s not just that Cook is going to be missing the first game, it’s also the fact their coaches know Lito Shepard is crap, Winfield is a pale shadow of his former self… And some second rate DB who’s limping around and won’t be ready til mid season, maybe… They got nothing for DBs.
    We have Williams, DPOY Woodson, All Pro Collins, the rookie Burnett off a great game against Manning where he got an int, Sam Shields who is stepping up and is getting rave reviews from Collins and Woodson and has 2 ints in his last 2 games… Plus Lee and Underwood behind him.
    No worries here in title town… Hey, are the vikes still located in… Is it St. Paul or Minneapolis? Heck, are they even in Minnesota anymore?

  22. stiller43 says: Aug 31, 2010 6:30 PM

    Isn’t Underwood the player accused of sexual assault?
    Where’s his suspension?

  23. HankScorpio says: Aug 31, 2010 6:30 PM

    As expected. There was a glimmer of hope but once he didn’t pass the physical to clear him to practice this week, the handwriting was on the wall. Obviously the Packers are better with Harris but it is a steady diet of pop-gun offenses after Philly in week 1.
    Atari Bigby was also placed on the PUP.
    Time for the young guys to step up. Shields and Burnett have been making plays in camp. They need to keep that going once the going gets tougher in a few weeks.

  24. snoogins says: Aug 31, 2010 6:48 PM

    Gravy conveniently left out Nick Collins who is a 2x Pro Bowler and Tramon Williams who can more than adequately step up to the starting CB role. I don’t expect him to know anything about the Packers, but Hawk doesn’t play nickel downs, his spot is taken by Brandon Chillar, who is an excellent cover LB. /yawnnn

  25. racingwis says: Aug 31, 2010 6:54 PM

    @Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat
    Your either really high or just a plain idiot. I mean you know Kampman was out half the season right? Not to mention you don’t even know who else is on the team since they don’t have a DL names Rodgers. I am guessing just an idiot because you would be to stupid light anything.

  26. myasylum says: Aug 31, 2010 6:54 PM

    I’m starting to think the Lions might be pretty good this year! :)

  27. Love_Boat_Scandal says: Aug 31, 2010 6:55 PM

    Meh. Pack are prepared. Bring on the Super Bowl, bee-yotches!

  28. LAEaglefan says: Aug 31, 2010 7:05 PM

    By the time he’s eligible to come off the the PUP list, Andy Reid might be so desperate for a cornerback that he’ll swing a trade to get him back to the Eagles, who specialize in giving injured defensive backs another chance….and they are determined to keep doing it until one of them actually plays decently.

  29. joe public sleeping says: Aug 31, 2010 7:06 PM

    “and kampman, who was double teamed when he was playing last year and which led to most of matthews sacks”
    This is extremely inaccurate. He was on the field for 2 of Clay’s sacks. Nice try though.

  30. Nosredna says: Aug 31, 2010 7:08 PM

    After all the crap the past couple weeks……you can just see Favre and that shit-eating grin he has now! LMAO

  31. Calistin says: Aug 31, 2010 7:15 PM

    Gravy you idiocy continues to amaze us. Kampman was hurt early in the year, and Matthews didn’t play the first few games. So your “theory” is pretty stupid if you ask me.
    Who the hell is this Rodgers on our dline? Do you know anything about football other than what’s on this site? Damn you dumb son.
    Yeah the DPOY is ancient, that’s funny coming from the franchise putting all their hopes and dreams into a 41 year old QB.
    Pack will be fine, what team doesn’t have secondary troubles. Vikings fans are just a bunch of ignorant trolls who like to make big deals of of little things. Worry about your own thin, crap secondary maybe.

  32. Chmura+hot-tub+babysitter=find a happy place says: Aug 31, 2010 7:19 PM

    UH-OH!!!

  33. cheeseweasel says: Aug 31, 2010 7:25 PM

    The Packers will set the single season scoring record this year. And still go 8-8….

  34. 1mge says: Aug 31, 2010 7:28 PM

    No worries, Vikings & their fans still suck.

  35. Sacram3ntal says: Aug 31, 2010 7:32 PM

    GravyMakesSconniesFat
    is a moron who says:
    “and kampman, who was double teamed when he was playing last year and which led to most of matthews sacks, has left in free agency. and rodgers who was maybe the pack’s best starter on the d-line out for the year.”
    *************************************
    Well, I’m here, might as well call you on your BS.
    Kampman tore his ACL against the 49ers in week 9- Matthews got 7 of his 10 sacks AFTER that game.
    Idiot.
    And who the hell is Rodgers on the D- Line?

  36. Jermichael Finweeeeeeeeeeee! says: Aug 31, 2010 7:36 PM

    Yes, this does hurt the Packers depth in the secondary, for 6 weeks. However for anyone who follows the Packers this is not a suprise. We knew Al would not be ready for the start of the season anyway.
    Gravysmakesconniesfat you make yourself look so ignorant its really really funny.
    Woodsons ancient? So is your QB, it doesnt mean he cant perform at a high level i.e. Defensive MVP last season. Also. Burnett was going to take Bigbys job regardless, this was known after the first mini-camp, perhaps you didnt notice him getting his hands all over Peyton Mannings passes last week, picking him off once. And our undrafted rookie will not be our NICKEL cb, nice try though. Yes Hawk might be the worst coverage linebacker in football ill give u that, but he wont be covering anyone it will be Chillar, Barnett, and Jones doing the majority of the covering when needed. As far as Kampman getting double teamed I’d really really like to see that, but I wont get to, because it didnt happen. Our pass rush will be better this year with Cullen Jenkins back and Raji at the nose and Pickett at end. And finally, who in the hell is Rodgers?!?!? We havent had a D lineman named Rodgers ever. So yeah your a tard, have fun not getting laid….ever. ROFL

  37. ICEWALKER says: Aug 31, 2010 7:37 PM

    Percy Nugz says:
    August 31, 2010 5:46 PM
    LOL to the pack fans who just ripped the Vikings for Chris Cook getting injurned. That’s some fast karma!!
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Karma’s a bitch…….then you marry one.
    I don’t want injuries. I don’t like injuries. I don’t want them as excuses.

  38. Reindeer_Rob says: Aug 31, 2010 8:00 PM

    Al Harris was flagged often, but seldom scored on. He had several years with 2 or less touchdowns attributed to his target. Consider how much smoke is getting blown up Revis’s nether region for one year like that…. There is no doubt they missed him last season and will miss him at the start of this year.
    Some will say that Tramon is not ready to cover on the outside, I will call that a load of crap. In Nickel and Dime situations (also known as every play in the pass happy NFL) Woodson covered the slot man and Tramon would play on the outside with Harris. The issue now is the drop off from Tramon to RANDOMCB#4 is much steeper than Harris to Tramon. Doucet looked like Boldin in the play offs last season going against their depleted secondary.

  39. Sacram3ntal says: Aug 31, 2010 8:03 PM

    Harris to the PUP list was the easy choice.
    Get him as much time as possible to recover, especially since it coincides with the easiest stretch on the Packers schedule.
    He’ll be back in time to play in both games against the Vikes.

  40. Contra says: Aug 31, 2010 8:06 PM

    Wow look at this…A Viking related article about depth concerns at CB received over 100 posts. The EXACT SAME ISSUE concerning the Packers received only 12 posts. Both came out roughly the same time. Just goes to show you that the Vikings are clearly the most exciting team to not only watch but comment on. Poor Packers…
    Oh, and Bob Nelson, you idiot! The Packers got to 75 players without cuts because TT’s ‘budget’ team did not allow for more than 75 players to begin with. Must be nice to live in fantasyland.

  41. Canned Heat says: Aug 31, 2010 8:14 PM

    Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says:
    August 31, 2010 5:12 PM
    this was expected, and with harris’s age and history how realistic is it to expect him to ever be able to contribute again, but it’s still very, very alarming for the pckers.
    besides woodson who is ancient, who else is there in the pckers 2ndary who is any good at all??
    ___________________________________
    Watch that Burnett kid light it up this year. I’m predicting Defensive Rookie of the Year nominations. Bigby will never get back on the field. They (Packers and DB’s) will be just fine. I love how the overall tide has turned here in the last month. You Twinkies are watching your first team O-line and elderly QB get bitch slapped, and we can smell the fear. Either that or it’s the smell of rotting careers in your locker room and mothballs in your trophy case. Something’s amiss.
    For a guy whose team has a backfield that’s been more torched than acres of land that have succumbed to wildfires out West…I think I’d shut my piehole while I was ahead if I were you. The Vikings are synonymous with getting waxed by the lack of a solid defensive backfield and it’s the that reason (oops, second behind YOUR porous “Pro Bowl” joke of an O-line) that will cost your team dearly. Well…that and the POROUS O-line thing, a fumbling running back who uses KY for stickum, a pothead who will be lucky to get 10 games in, and a coach who reminds us all of an older version of Alan from the Hangover.
    If Woodson is ancient….what does that make Antoine Winfield, Pat Williams and BrINT Favre…? Thought so….nice failing logic again, douche.
    You are so fricking stupid you can’t even make a wisecrack without stepping in your own stink. The best part is…even if the db’s in Green Bay are weak….that “GayRodge” guy is going to light you Twinkies up like a Christmas tree. A gay, purple, pony-tailed Christmas tree with a purple horn on top…with Ragnar or whatever that 1/2 child molestor half Capital One credit card actor is supposed to be. God Bless Us….everyone.

  42. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Aug 31, 2010 8:21 PM

    i meant jolly is gone from your d-line. and here’s what the main packers writer from the milwaukee journal sentinel online thinks about the state of the pckers 2ndary:
    “The Packers’ decision to not add either a free agent or a draft pick in the offseason at cornerback looks downright puzzling right now. That Sam Shields, a UDFA who played one season of CB at Miami, is probably the favorite to open against DeSean Jackson and the Eagles at nickel back shows the state of the depth at CB.
    Once again, the gay vampire has doomed the packers to a season of futility. Last year it was the offensive line he neglected. This year, he has ensured that two rookies must start in the defensive secondary. Is there a more cheap, lazy and stupid general manager in the entire NFL? This writer thinks not.”
    and that’s from a pckers blog so you can’t accuse him of being biased either.

  43. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Aug 31, 2010 8:26 PM

    i’m honestly not trying to be negative about the pckers, i just don’t think it’s realistic to expect a defense that routinely got torched by good teams last season, and now this season has lost kampman, jolly, plus matthews has a bad hamstring, and worst of all they have to start 2 rookies in the 2ndary to replace 2 vets just put on pup, to do anything.
    i blame the sordid albino for this.

  44. ICEWALKER says: Aug 31, 2010 8:26 PM

    Gravy……
    What are you getting at with pckers? I’ve always wondered that. No ‘a’?
    Not trying to poke the horent’s nest. Just curious.

  45. mattgso says: Aug 31, 2010 8:32 PM

    Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: August 31, 2010 5:12 PM
    this was expected, and with harris’s age and history how realistic is it to expect him to ever be able to contribute again, but it’s still very, very alarming for the pckers.
    —————————————————–
    Alarming to queen fan living in moms basement. But there’s no alarm or anger coming from Packer fans. Just happiness insulting you.

  46. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Aug 31, 2010 8:35 PM

    icewalker, it just comes out “pcker” when i’m typing. i think the “a” on my keyboard doesn’t work.

  47. Bordner says: Aug 31, 2010 8:38 PM

    Contra says:
    August 31, 2010 8:06 PM
    Just goes to show you that the Vikings are clearly the most exciting team to not only watch but comment on. Poor Packers…
    ————————————————-
    Hmm… I wonder what would make the Queens so exciting to watch and Queens articles such a magnet for posts????
    Oh, that’s right! You’ve got our old QB playing for you now! So really, it’s not anything Queens-related at all, is it?
    Once (if?) he retires for good, the Queens will be back to that level of irrelevance that you enjoyed so much all those other years that you sat around not winning championships.
    Poor Queens…

  48. Murgen says: Aug 31, 2010 9:01 PM

    When he went down, I thought it might be the last we saw of him.

  49. Crigs says: Aug 31, 2010 9:12 PM

    Gravy it’s kind of funny that you didn’t comment on the Matthews sack situation. You make an ignorant comment about Kampman and then don’t answer to the truth. Typical.
    And just like all of the other crap you’ve made up, I’ll try to correct you again. Matthews has said repeatedly that he would play this week if it were the regularly season but they are just being cautious so he’s 100% for game 1. I wouldn’t call that a serious problem.
    Also you keep mentioning the loss of Kampman like it was a huge loss to the Packers. Kampman had 3.5 sacks in 9 starts for the Packers and he was terrible in coverage and a rookie Brad Jones had 4 sacks in 7 starts and is very good in coverage. That comes out to about 10 sacks on a full season. Matthews had 10 sacks in 13 games.
    I’m actually pretty excited for the Packers pass rush for the future when they had two rookie OLB’s whose numbers translated out over a 16 game season would’ve had 9-10 and 12-13 sacks a piece respectively. Take into account that 99% of players improve after their rookie seasons and I think McKinnie and Loadholt will have their hands full. Especially since both Jones and Matthews are good speed rushers and those are the types of players those two fatties have trouble with.

  50. Beer Cheese Soup says: Aug 31, 2010 9:20 PM

    The worst part isn’t that Harris and Bigby are out.
    Harris has been a perpetual burn victim and a flag magnet for years now. “We want the ball and we’re gonna score” made him a household name, but it was the high point of an otherwise ho-hum career. The injury was just the final straw. He’s done.
    Bigby was never much more than a liability who could occasionally hit like a freight train. Sadly, it’s the same hard-hitting style that has him constantly injured. He was certainly a monster in the Seattle game in ’07. Deion Branch will never be the same, but now Bigby won’t either.
    In both cases, there are equally mediocre replacements. We will be fine without them. Losing them is no big deal.
    The worst part, and what IS a big deal, is that now we have lost any chance we have of finally ridding ourselves of Ted’s pet project, the worst DB in the league. At least Harrell only costs the team millions sitting his fat ass on the bench. Jarrett Bust has singlehandedly lost games, and now he will again.

  51. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Aug 31, 2010 9:23 PM

    “I’m actually pretty excited for the Packers pass rush”
    yeah, i was pretty impressed by the pckers pass rush in the vikes-pckers games that i watched and the pckers wc game against the cards.

  52. ICEWALKER says: Aug 31, 2010 9:38 PM

    Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says:
    August 31, 2010 8:35 PM
    icewalker, it just comes out “pcker” when i’m typing. i think the “a” on my keyboard doesn’t work.
    :-p
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says:
    August 31, 2010 8:26 PM
    i’m honestly not trying to be negAtive About the pckers, i just don’t think it’s reAlistic to expect A defense thAt routinely got torched by good teAms lAst seAson, And now this seAson hAs lost kAmpmAn, jolly, plus mAtthews hAs A bAd hAmstring, And worst of All they hAve to start 2 rookies in the 2ndAry to replAce 2 vets just put on pup, to do Anything.
    i blAme the sordid Albino for this.

  53. Sacram3ntal says: Aug 31, 2010 9:40 PM

    Here’s a random tidbit for you Packers fans, which you may or may not be aware of-
    I’ve lived in Minneapolis for 5 years now (from Cali) and guess what’s the one thing Vikes fans talk about more than Brett Favre?
    Yup. The Packers.
    Vikings fans are obsessed with the Packers, and especially Aaron Rodgers. Not even kidding.
    It’s hilarious. I just have to say “wow, Aaron Rodgers is lighting it up..” and suddenly grown men start stammering about random sh*t while veins pop from their foreheads.
    Off-topic, but it explains most of the crap I see here.

  54. Reindeer_Rob says: Aug 31, 2010 9:43 PM

    To whomever said Sam Shields will be covering Desean Jackson week 1: You are wrong. Woodson covered the slot man practically any time a team used someone dangerous. Since the slot receiver is typically harder to slide safety help to (with motion and traditionally quicker players), I would expect Tramon Williams to cover Macklin with Shields/Underwood as the third man with Collins over the top. Is it ideal to be without Harris? No, but every team will lose someone and this loss has been planned all summer.

  55. Crigs says: Aug 31, 2010 9:50 PM

    Once again Gravy, ignoring all the facts. Just like you and your two gay buddies keep saying that Favre had more TD’s than Rodgers when Favre actually had 33 total and Rodgers had 35. You guys like to forget the rushing part of the game that also gave Rodgers 4,750 yards and Favre 4,209 yards.
    Lastly, I said that Jared Allen couldn’t get 7.5 sacks in two games against Clifton and Tauscher and you said the two of them couldn’t stop him either. Well in 3 career games against Clifton, Allen only has 1.5 sacks. Also in the 14 other games last season Allen only had 7 sacks and was continually ran at in the run game because he’s one of the weakest d-lineman in the league against the run. That seems to suggest that if Clifton played in both those games last season Allen might have gotten one sack total and nowhere near the 7.5. That definitely was a factor.

  56. Crigs says: Aug 31, 2010 10:25 PM

    Sacram3ntal,
    I hear you man. I’ve got a few Vikings friends and I have a bunch of friends that went to school or are currently going to school in Minnesota. Vikings fans are legitimately obsessed with the Packers.
    My Vikings friends who live down the street literally have a basement devoted to the Vikings beating the Packers over the last 2o years. They have all the Minneapolis newspapers after Vikings wins over the Packers and they have a board with their running record against each other. It really is kind of creepy but they’re cool though.
    The Vikings fans (from what I hear at least especially when I was younger) also have third wheel syndrome when it comes to the rivalry between the Bears and the Packers. Some of them can’t take the fact that the Packers actually have a rivalry with the Bears and Cowboys as well. I just hope the two teams meet in the playoffs this year so one of them will have serious bragging rights.

  57. Clay52isBEAST says: Aug 31, 2010 10:47 PM

    Not a big deal…Tramon is a better CB than any of the Vikes CBs besides Winfield….Thats all you got is Winfield. The Packers also do not play an “elite” QB til the play Favre and the Queens in week 7 and Al will be back. You Vikes fans should be worried about your secondary more than the Packers….

  58. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Aug 31, 2010 11:01 PM

    icewalker, i know, it’s crazy but my keyboard must be relly messed up with how it sometimes does a’s and other times it doesn’t. i’ll tke it in to be fixed tomorrow.

  59. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Aug 31, 2010 11:04 PM

    “Vikings fans are obsessed with the Packers”
    so… why is it that pcker fans spend all their time on viking threads and no time on pcker threads. seriously, every vikes fan i know sees it the exact opposite of what you just said. every pcker blog i have ever looked at spends most of its time talking about favre and the vikes.

  60. Clay52isBEAST says: Aug 31, 2010 11:05 PM

    @ Crigs…Nice comments man. It’s good to read some actual football knowledge that are backed up by stats instead of the bs that Gravy is always spewing…did you really expect that tool to respond to being wrong? As fas as Gravy calling Woodson “ancient”…LMAO…DMVP thats all that matters…What about Winfield Gravy? What is he?

  61. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Aug 31, 2010 11:22 PM

    “That seems to suggest that if Clifton played in both those games last season Allen might have gotten one sack total and nowhere near the 7.5.”
    yeah in might have land that probly would’ve happened.

  62. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Aug 31, 2010 11:23 PM

    “Not a big deal”
    no it’s every coach’s dream to go into the season with 2 rookies starting in the 2ndary especially since the pckers spend most of their time in nickel d.

  63. Crigs says: Aug 31, 2010 11:50 PM

    Let’s not forget that NFL scouts and analysts have been quoted as saying that even though Winfield is still a tough player for a little guy, his coverage skills have diminished over the last few seasons. And while Woodson and Harris have gotten better after 30 against the norm, Winfield age is catching up to him like it does for most CB’s at 33.
    I think we all are forgetting the impact that Chester Taylor had for the Vikings last season as well. He caught about three passes a game for first downs on screens or check downs by Favre. Favre doesn’t have that third down back security blanket anymore unless you wanna count the Alstot-like Gerhart.

  64. cusoman says: Sep 1, 2010 12:00 AM

    Jermichael Finweeeeeeeeeeee! says: August 31, 2010 7:36 PM
    Your username seriously made me laugh, kudos.

  65. Beer Cheese Soup says: Sep 1, 2010 12:00 AM

    Crigs says:
    The Vikings fans (from what I hear at least especially when I was younger) also have third wheel syndrome when it comes to the rivalry between the Bears and the Packers.
    _____________
    From what you hear?? you mean, as if it doesn’t define every moment of their lives?
    You have a gift for the obvious.

  66. RC IV says: Sep 1, 2010 8:45 AM

    The hypocrisy is so thick on this thread.
    A Vike gets injured? It’s the end of the world, cancel the season!!!
    Packers injured? They “adapt and overcome”, right Gunny Highway?
    Pathetic.
    Gravy. Great job!! You have more posts directed at you than at the the actual subject.
    These cheese turds just can’t help themselves.
    They piss and moan and piss and moan, yet they keep feeding the flames.
    Bottom line:
    Whether Harris and Bigby are any good is a moot point. They WERE starters. You really think, along with Jolly and kampmann being gone, that a defense(which last seen in a meaningful game was torched for close to 600 yards) that loses 4 starters from it, is auomagiacally just going to grow by leaps and bounds?
    Jesus, you guys are homers.
    I just am glad to see it’s not only Brett you turn on.
    Jolly gone? he sucked anyways, dumb plays
    Bigby? Who cares? Burnett is a lock for the HOF
    Harris? SO? Tramon is better than 99% of the DBs in the game.
    You guys are fricking hypocritical idiotic homers.
    Your depth just took a huge blow.
    Build from within huh??
    The foundation has to be solid and there is cracks in 2 areas. TT is an idiot. No depth at RB and CB.
    Fullback is loaded though, which is nice.
    Boy are you pcker fans in for a rude awakening.

  67. cusoman says: Sep 1, 2010 9:03 AM

    # Sacram3ntal says: August 31, 2010 9:40 PM
    Here’s a random tidbit for you Packers fans, which you may or may not be aware of-
    I’ve lived in Minneapolis for 5 years now (from Cali) and guess what’s the one thing Vikes fans talk about more than Brett Favre?
    Yup. The Packers.
    Vikings fans are obsessed with the Packers, and especially Aaron Rodgers. Not even kidding.
    It’s hilarious. I just have to say “wow, Aaron Rodgers is lighting it up..” and suddenly grown men start stammering about random sh*t while veins pop from their foreheads.
    Off-topic, but it explains most of the crap I see here.
    ————-
    That’s funny, because with the amount of posts Vikings stories get on this site from Packer fans (which is way above and beyond the posts Packer stories get), you would think it’s the other way around. Packer fans are obsessed with the Vikings.

  68. Canned Heat says: Sep 1, 2010 9:15 AM

    Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says:
    August 31, 2010 8:21 PM
    …..and that’s from a pckers blog so you can’t accuse him of being biased either.
    ___________________________________
    Yeah…because one guy of about a billion guys who have blogs think TT missed out on nabbing a DB….that will seal their fate.
    God, you are one desperate tool. Please blame the gay albino. That way you have another guy to hate when gay’s albino’s offense is lighting you up for 45 in a couple weeks.
    Now sit down and yell upstairs to mama for more hot cocoa.

  69. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Sep 1, 2010 11:09 AM

    wow way to have a sense of humor pcker fans. you guys take things way too seriously.

  70. RC IV says: Sep 1, 2010 11:56 AM

    Winfield age is catching up to him like it does for most CB’s at 33.
    =================
    Wrong.
    Pro Bowl year before last. Hurt last year.
    ==================================
    I think we all are forgetting the impact that Chester Taylor had for the Vikings last season as well. He caught about three passes a game for first downs on screens or check downs by Favre. Favre doesn’t have that third down back security blanket anymore unless you wanna count the Alstot-like Gerhart.
    ————————————
    Petersons catch total went up by about 23 last year. Also, you are forgetting that Camarillo is an excellent 3rd down option.
    Young and Reynaud are also there and i don’t think you shold be so quick to dismiss Gerhart.
    Of course, he isn’t a packer drfat pick so he isn’t an instant HOF’er(sarcasm).
    Just keep looking past the Vikings you cheese turds, that’s just the way we like it.
    I can’t wait til GB falls on their face this year.

  71. Crigs says: Sep 1, 2010 1:19 PM

    Once again, RC, not understanding a post. Not surprising.
    If you honestly don’t think losing Chester Taylor was a big deal than you have zero football knowledge. Same goes for anyone who thinks losing Harris for the first six weeks doesn’t matter. The difference is that Taylor’s playing in Chicago and Harris will be back when the schedule starts to get tough. And I really like Gerhart as a player but he is definitely not a third down back and he won’t be getting any carries on first and second unless AP’s hurt so…better hope Reynaud can do it cause AP gets QB’s killed trying to pick up blitzes.
    Finally, I’ve said repeatedly, the Vikings and Packers are on the same level and the team that wins the division will probably catch more breaks, pretty much just like last season when the Packers had way more injuries to overcome than the Vikings and the division was decided by a game. I think the same scenario happens this year with whichever team stays more healthy pulling out the division. So I guess that makes me look past the Vikings huh???

  72. Crigs says: Sep 1, 2010 1:49 PM

    Vikings fans have always been obsessed about their rivalry with the Packers and the only difference now (which explains the dozens of posts for every Vikings topic) is Brent Favre. No one is obsessed with the Vikings. Everyone is obsessed with Brent.
    If Favre wasn’t on the Vikings I don’t think more than a Packer fan or two would be posting on the Vikings topics. And ever since I can remember, there have been Vikings fans posting on every Packer website. It’s pretty obvious.

  73. J Dub says: Sep 1, 2010 2:24 PM

    “Your depth just took a huge blow.”
    From a guy being put ont he PUP list after practicing for 0 days and playing in 0 preseason games…..OK. FAIL
    “Boy are you pcker fans in for a rude awakening.”
    Are your referring to the same rude awaking we idiotic Packer fans warned you myopic Vikings fans of last year when you were celebrating in the streets after you got Favre? OK then….but I should warn you….Favre will blow a big game or two this year as well….same as he has done for, going on…lets see, 4 years now.
    Harris loss stinks, however no-one in Packer country was counting on him being available week one anyway.
    Here’s a question…..if Jared Allen can get 7.5 sacks in two games against the Packers, and only 5.5 in the 14 other games….why is he considered a pro-bowler? I mean, the stellar play of two guards thrust into the tackle position is surely a great measuring stick for your love for Allen….right.
    Boy are you Viking fans in for a rude awakening….

  74. cheatriots says: Sep 1, 2010 3:13 PM

    RCIV- You are the dumbest person on here. Prepare to watch the Packers dominate the North this season. I’m not even a Packer fan but it is obvious to everyone who can be objective. Favre would be lucky to be half as good as he was last year. He could wind up being like he was in 08 just as easily as 09. Bigby wasn’t special and Burnett does seem impressive so far. Harris hurts the Packers but the first six weeks of their schedule look pretty soft. I’m not saying the Packers win the SB but they will take a weak North division with ease. Also if the Vikings don’t draft some good young players soon the Lions will supplant them for second next year. Draft a QB Childress.

  75. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Sep 1, 2010 4:39 PM

    rc is right, cheatriots, that was a horrible post, you got basically everything wrong.
    the dumbest thing you said was “Also if the Vikings don’t draft some good young players soon ”
    whaaaa??? half of spielman’s 1st round picks have won rookie of the year and gone to the pro bowl, not to mention 2nd round pick rice who also went to the pro bowl last year, loadholt started at rt as a rookie…
    i mean, what team do you think has drafted better than the vikes??? you prefer packasaurass ted’s picks like justin harrell and a.j. hawk???

  76. Beer Cheese Soup says: Sep 1, 2010 4:56 PM

    Crigs says:
    Finally, I’ve said repeatedly, the Vikings and Packers are on the same level and the team that wins the division will probably catch more breaks, pretty much just like last season when the Packers had way more injuries to overcome than the Vikings and the division was decided by a game.
    ____________
    Keep assuming this comes down to us or the Vikings.
    Chicago wins the division.. You heard it here first. It’s obviously not what I want, of course, but it’s how I see it.
    The question marks and injuries are piling on for both the Pack and Vikings. The Bears are the only team that made real strides this offseason at all.
    Everyone else either thought Javon Walker and Lito Sheppard could still play football, or kept on spewing the constant Ted rhetoric of “improving from within”.
    Neither approach will get you anywhere, but at least one costs less money than the other, right Ted fans? That’s all that matters..

  77. J Dub says: Sep 1, 2010 5:00 PM

    “Burnett is impressive? In preseason? You are going to base how good a rookie is during preseason?”
    What does every coach and every GM on every NFL team base thier rookies on then? FAIL…
    Gravy and RC are the same person……
    Also, the Packers horrible….even without Bigby, Kampman and Harris, and the terrible play of Hawk and Bush, were +24 in turnover ratio last year. I suppose those numbers are wrong also.
    Oh, and I believe Loadholt might be the reason Favre pondered passing rather than running…just sayin..

  78. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Sep 1, 2010 7:14 PM

    j dub, even with the big turnover advantage the pckers couldn’t win the division or a playoff game and the turnover margins usually balance out the following year.
    that is one of the reasons that i regretfully must forecast the pckers to finsih 8-8 and 3rd in the nfcc. the vikes will defend the division crown at 11-5 and tghe bears will finish 2nd at 9-7.
    however, the pckers will finish ahead of the lions, just like in 08.

  79. shaggytoodle says: Sep 2, 2010 1:50 PM

    GB lost 1 regular season game after he went down last season out of 6. The Packers will now be able to find out if Williams is worth a long term contract or, if he will be one of the ex-packers Minnesota will pick up.

  80. RC IV says: Sep 2, 2010 2:39 PM

    shaggytoodle says:
    September 2, 2010 1:50 PM
    GB lost 1 regular season game after he went down last season out of 6. The Packers will now be able to find out if Williams is worth a long term contract or, if he will be one of the ex-packers Minnesota will pick up
    =======================
    Yep and a WC game in which they gave up 51 !points. Williams is garbage, you know it, i know it.
    why wouldn’t the Vikes take 3 Pro Bowl players off the packers hands? Is it their fault Teddy Teabag won’t pay them when they have great years left in them?
    The packers won’t pick up any vikings because minnesota takes care of their own and Pays them until they are done playing.
    You Cheese turds crack me up.

  81. shaggytoodle says: Sep 3, 2010 1:19 AM

    I don’t think Williams is crap at all, I think he did a decent job at starter, 2 out of 7 games they lost were to the teams that played in the superbowl the previous year.
    ________________________________
    The packers won’t pick up any vikings because minnesota takes care of their own and Pays them until they are done playing.
    Do you mean when they are done like after they retire?
    Or do you mean til the team is sick and “done” picking he or she up after the first preseason game each season.
    The Packers have taken care of Brett Favre til he retired, Tauscher has played for only the Packers, he had a knee injury and didn’t start the first few games until he prooved his knee was good. Donald Driver has a contract extension til he believes he will be “done,” Chad Clifton had a contract offer from Washington, BUT the Packers knew he wanted to stay a Packer so they matched it.
    And before you give GB grief about asking Tauscher to proove his health, remember how “well” you took care of Culpepper.

  82. RC IV says: Sep 3, 2010 10:52 AM

    By using Culpepper, you just rendered yourself irrelevant.
    They gave him more money the previous year , he came back played horribly, got injured and asked for outlandish money.
    Its obvious you know nothing about that.
    I’m glad could find FOUR whole players they “took care of”.
    Brett? If that was such a great orginization, why did he want to leave so badly?
    My point of taking care of them for the Vikes is this:
    They don’t let players go that are still pro bowl caliber. They pay them, something old T.Teabag just doesn’t want to do.
    Face it:
    Longwell has been rock solid
    Favre #rd in MVP voting -probowl
    Sharper 2 straight pro bowls
    Walker??????
    You aren’t very smart are you?

  83. shaggytoodle says: Sep 3, 2010 1:17 PM

    Favre RETIRED!!! How much simpler does it need to be. Longwell went to Minnesota, because he is a PANZY and needed to play INDOORS so he could add a some EXTRA SEASONS to his career. His leg can’t handle kicking outside anymore. You can’t bring up Walker, because he got hurt and wanted a huge contract without prooving healthy.
    Driver, Tauscher, Clifton. Have been in the league for the last 10 years and ONLY have played for the Packers. The reason you may THINK the Vikings “take care” of their own, is because they draft players that can only play about 7 years. Let me know some of the players that are still on the roster from the 1999 or 2000 draft class.

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