Comments on: Washington Post ombudsman says Wise is "lucky he wasn't fired"

By: sacdaddy

sacdaddy — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 07:54:38 +0000

He covers the NBA, how is this a story remotely necessary for this site.

By: Kevin from Philly

Kevin from Philly — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 07:05:41 +0000

I’m thinking that when he finds out that the omsbudsman and you are in total agreement, the shame might cause the omsbudsman to resign.

By: saints_are sinners_and_winners

saints_are sinners_and_winners — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 04:11:26 +0000

Luv it… don’t be a playa hater… chill Florio

By: 55horses

55horses — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 23:57:53 +0000

PFT is a news and rumour aggregation site. Mike Florio is NOT a journalist. (Neither is Mike Wise anymore.)
Florio still doesn’t understand the tragedy of reporting Terry Bradshaw dead. Florio won’t understand that until someone calls him asking for a comment about his son’s death.
The means of reporting news has changed but the method of gathering that news has not changed. Legitimate news operations need to hide all their content behind paid subscription walls. If that happens, Florio (who likely makes 300-400 K for this website) will have to pay to subscribe to the work of the reporters he feeds off of.
Mike Wise had a good idea but a bad method. If every newspaper hid their content behind paid subscription walls, sites like this would have to pay to buy content. That is the way it should be. If reporters want to tweet, they can tweet url links to content behind paid subscription walls.
NBC is the biggest patsy in all of this. They pay Florio to aggregate so-called news but refuse to take ownership of the false reports emanating from this site.
Here’s a challenge to NBC and Florio: For one week, just post news and rumours generated by the PFT staff without any reliance on reporting by newspapers, TV, other bloggers, Twitter, yada, yada, yada.
How many stories will be generated?

By: smilergrogan

smilergrogan — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 23:47:26 +0000

if i were the ombudsman, i would be worried that you think you are in lockstep with him.

By: doinitatodu87

doinitatodu87 — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 23:11:09 +0000

holy shit florio shut the hell up. you are absolutely killing this. did you not see the name of this is pro FOOTBALL talk, not pro hey this is something i can get click through numbers on. you are a hack ass piece of shit.

By: FinFan83

FinFan83 — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:37:54 +0000

@OranjelloJones:
After reading so many of the comments on this post and the several other posts involving this same story, I felt I had to state the obvious. There were far too many people that just didn’t seem to get it. Obviously, you get it…maybe. But if you would look at other blogs and rumor sites that ran with what Wise said, you would see that they are all pissed off too.
None of these people get pissed when they have sources that feed them information that ends up being wrong. But Florio (and the rest of em) have every right in the world to be pissed at Wise because he didn’t get bad information from a source…he just flat out made something up.

By: OranjelloJones

OranjelloJones — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:34:49 +0000

Yes FinFan we all get it now.
Thank You Captain Obvious. You’re a pro of laying out what everyone already knows. Now go apply for a job with NBC, you’d fit right in.
The heart of the matter here isn’t whether Florio is running a rumor site, the crux of it is the over the top hissy fit Florio is having in this latest, laughable, holier than thou mode.
He’s blown it so many times in the past with sloppy work or reporting something “he thinks” as actual substantive news that whether he uses the weak copout of “Rumor Mill” or files it under a straight “NEWS” column is irrelevant. He’s got no room to be judging anyone else or acting like he’s hasn’t screwed up without acknowledging it in the past. It’d be one thing if he actually had come clean on his own screw ups (Terry Bradshaw doesn’t count there was no way he could avoid coming clean there), but he routinely makes wild statements with the implication of factual support but has nothing to say when his “reports” just wind up on the mounting heap of bullshit he’s built up over the years.
Wise blew it sure, but not only is it amazingly arrogant of Florio to think he’s got the juice to make Wise feel enough pressure to resign, but it’s downright comical coming from a guy who lives off of the rumors and journalistic work done by the very same people he relies on gets all pissy over if they don’t put it in highlights that a story broke here first.

By: CJ

CJ — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:27:49 +0000

The fact that the ombudsman and I are in lockstep on those issues possibly could be enough to get Wise to resign.
__________________________
Forget Wise, that should be enough to get the ombudsman to resign!

By: NFLMMAfan

NFLMMAfan — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:22:55 +0000

@Florio,
“And I said that I can imagine no greater offense to Wise’s profession than fabrication”….
Given that “PFT” has become “Just Making Stuff Up”, when are you and Gregg resigning?
Undisclosed sources close to the situation say you are quitting by Wednesday or Saturday.

By: Tpayneful

Tpayneful — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:14:31 +0000

Wise has a radio show too. The whole thing was broadcasted on WJFK and anyone that listened knew it was a joke.
Since when is Twitter a factual news source?
Florio, you post numerous ramblings about things that are RUMORS! You don’t even have a high horse to get off of!
Wise, an actual journalist, was trying to prove a point that you will post anything without checking facts like a real reporter or journalist would do. His point was proven.
Wise can be holyer than thou about ethical reporting and never considered that Tweeting something would jeopardize his writing gig. On the suspension, Florio and the Post need to get a life.

By: FinFan83

FinFan83 — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:45:39 +0000

Alright, here is the reason that Mike Wise is in trouble for this, and Mike Florio (nor any of the other dozen or so reporters that shared Wise’s tweet) is not. Mike Wise logged onto his Twitter, and completely made something up. Nobody told him anything about Roethlisberger. He just made something up. Florio and all the others that ran with it did so because a reporter with a previously good track record for giving information already reported it.
Does everyone understand?
Now, sure all reporters should get multiple sources on a news item before posting something. But in the world today, you are competing to scoop other reporters, and don’t always have time. So sometimes you have to go off of one source if you deem that source as being credible.
Now, that being said, I would like to point out that none of these reports talking about Wise’s tweet were actual reports. Most of them were discussed in blogs. And if you pay attention, PFT is a site for news and RUMORS! Meaning that I could get on the phone with Florio and tell him that I heard from my cousin’s neighbor’s best friend’s brother who happens to live next door to Al Sharpton that he heard Barack Obama plans on buying an NFL team when his presidency is up and Florio could run with it as a “story” on here because…wait for it…it’s a RUMOR!
Does everyone understand now?

By: blmonroe12

blmonroe12 — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:45:31 +0000

I love it, Florio has his foot on this guys throat and won’t let him up.

By: 828tnt

828tnt — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:25:21 +0000

no hypocrisy here, huh?
this used to be an interesting site before florio found his soapbox and started pimping it out at an espn level. can nbc broadcast a game without running an add saying ” please go check pft out, we’re really legit?”
most of the crap on here has become opionions and inuendos anyway.
florio, you’re a punk that’s been punked. this just hits you too close to home!

By: Fonetik

Fonetik — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:22:35 +0000

Mike Florio: standing for truth and integrity in journalism.
Remember when Steve Smith wanted to fight you? LOL

By: DonkeyRider

DonkeyRider — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:22:33 +0000

It looks like you found the perfect person to join the “Florio Family Feud”.

By: dafish

dafish — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:22:20 +0000

2 words
Terry Bradshaw

By: AbeFreshly

AbeFreshly — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:22:10 +0000

Among other stuff, I said of Wise, “He intentionally and deliberately fabricated a report. I can imagine no greater offense to his profession than that.”
Wise should have been wise & qualified his hoax statement by saying “Latest News and Rumors” beforehand. THEN, it’s “anything goes”!

By: The Terminator

The Terminator — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:16:36 +0000

Twitter is for twits!

By: superb owl

superb owl — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:13:37 +0000

fact: the ombudsman doesnt care what pft says

By: cmich06

cmich06 — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:05:02 +0000

Wise won’t resign…he sucks and won’t get picked up anywhere except for the Fargo Times

By: lawless

lawless — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:53:16 +0000

Yes… I’m using the new “Haynesworth Air Quote” buttons on my keyboard…
If a “reporter” is supposed to avoid “journalistic transgressions,” then what in the hell is a “reporter” doing “publishing” reports via “Twitter” or hosting a “Radio Show?” Isn’t doing both of these things causing a “journalist” to “deliberately fabricate” stories on a daily basis?
I’m not down with this “new age journalism” crap where the only way a “reporter” can make a name for him/herself is to whore themselves out to all other forms of media. A person cannot be expected to be held to the standards of being a “journalist” when promoting his/her byline is more important than the story.
A “journalist” should provide good, solid, accurate reporting and nothing else. Anything beyond this is a “major journalistic transgression.”

By: ncoolong

ncoolong — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:51:57 +0000

I wrote it was potential grounds for termination in my comment on the original hoax story, which you didn’t run. I was initially miffed by the fact you didn’t, but I figured there could be something from a legal standpoint that would prevent you from openly questioning the validity of another person’s employment.
I guess it was just cuz you didn’t want to publish my comment. You’re all but salivating with the idea of being behind the call for this guy’s head.

By: dcdiva12

dcdiva12 — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:50:22 +0000

Clearly Wise was wrong for fabricating a story, as he’s acknowledged. Calling for his resignation is over the top and comes across as petty and vindictive. Let’s not make this a competition between the bloggers and the traditional reporrters.

By: Hailskinzz

Hailskinzz — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:48:01 +0000

Florio nobody cares about this but u. He is still a hell of lot better than u.

By: steeelfann

steeelfann — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:46:53 +0000

The funniest part of this whole thing is that the whackjobs makes garbage up every day in the media.
Too funny. So in other words, you can make up something, just fabricate it out of thin air, take a month vacation and come back to work. Cool. Where do I send my resume?
Crap, in my business, you can’t lie or you get fired. Cool.

By: AlphaQ2

AlphaQ2 — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:46:14 +0000

Dude, I understand you’re a little bitter over the situation, but live and let live. Going after the guys job any further is a first class ticket on the karma train.

By: saints_are sinners_and_winners

saints_are sinners_and_winners — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:43:34 +0000

Luv it… don’t be a play hater… chill Florio

By: comment_submission_error

comment_submission_error — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:37:56 +0000

Easy, Florio. You aren’t a professional journalist. You aren’t even one of those things.

By: gotime

gotime — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:36:59 +0000

i live in DC…Florio is 1000% right. Mike Wise should be fired! He is a joke. The only reason he is on the radio is because this city sucks the juices of anyone associated w/ the Washington Post. Wise is the least interesting writer and talk show host….he can put you to sleep in 2 minutes. Also, i question if he is really a “male”. I think he wears dresses & panties at home.
if the Post had any true moral standing he would be fired.
Pound him Florio…be the voice of reason!!!