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Ben Roethlisberger will ask for suspension of less than four games

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell says Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has done everything asked of him, and as a result it’s widely believed that Goodell will reduce Roethlisberger’s suspension from six games to four.

But Roethlisberger reportedly wants the suspension to be even shorter than that.

Sal Paolantonio of ESPN reports that Roethlisberger’s representatives plan to ask Goodell to reduce the six-game suspension by at least three games.

Steelers president Art Rooney II apparently supports the idea and plans to attend the meeting to press the case to Goodell.

Although Goodell has gone out of his way to praise Roethlisberger’s off-field behavior in the four months since handing down his suspension, it seems awfully unlikely that Goodell would be receptive to a request for a suspension of three games or fewer. Goodell has indicated from the beginning that four games would be the minimum length of Roethlisberger’s suspension, and the commissioner is unlikely to waver.

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  1. contract says: Sep 1, 2010 6:05 PM

    Art II going to bat for Ben? Yeah right!

  2. Citizen Strange says: Sep 1, 2010 6:05 PM

    You don’t make any calls, you don’t make any sales!/Brewstered
    GO STEELERS!

  3. Philly Cheese says: Sep 1, 2010 6:06 PM

    Yes, reduce it…he’s on my fantasy team.
    Otherwise I could care less.

  4. BigBear123 says: Sep 1, 2010 6:06 PM

    Team wants him back for the Ravens.
    Be a big ratings boost icing him play against the Ravens, especially if it is his first game back.
    Goodell is turning into a marshmallow trying to gain the players favor with a strike looming.
    It will be 3 games.
    One of the commentators has been saying it for awhile.

  5. omegalh says: Sep 1, 2010 6:07 PM

    Is MDS “pulling a Wise” here?

  6. JaggedMark says: Sep 1, 2010 6:07 PM

    If I were Goodell, and Roethlisberger actually does make that request, I’d leave it at 6 because of his audacity in making such a request.

  7. connie says: Sep 1, 2010 6:08 PM

    What ever the Rooneys want they get.
    He should be in jail. NFL going to the dogs.
    Let the good catholic Rooneys go to church tomorrow and pray that he gets 3 game.
    Why not ask for 0 games. they will get it.
    They all should hang their heads in shame

  8. Doug O says: Sep 1, 2010 6:08 PM

    Seems pretty steep penalty for having sex in the bathroom at a bar.

  9. Straydogg_0 says: Sep 1, 2010 6:09 PM

    Ben should be grateful for “only” getting a four to six game suspension, but to ask for less than four games seriously brings up the question of “what did Ben actually learn from this”?
    I’ll be getting my “she said NO sign” ready to roll whenever he suits up!

  10. stiller43 says: Sep 1, 2010 6:09 PM

    …yikes…

  11. 8man says: Sep 1, 2010 6:09 PM

    And I will ask my wife for porn grade sexual favors.
    Ben and I both will be denied.

  12. FinFan68 says: Sep 1, 2010 6:10 PM

    He should never have mentioned the possibility of a reduction. If what BR did was worth 6 games then, it should still be worth 6 games. If it was only worthy of a 4 game suspension then that is what Goodell should have done from the get go. He gains nothing from the potential for reduction that he did not already have from the potential to extend the suspension if BR did not act above board. Goodell’s conduct possibility has merit but his execution of the program is inconsistent and lacks credibility.

  13. Hailskinzz says: Sep 1, 2010 6:12 PM

    Homoooo

  14. 90ragtop says: Sep 1, 2010 6:13 PM

    Let him come back for the Ravens, but only if he sits out the Cleveland game in week 6.

  15. Rhapsody says: Sep 1, 2010 6:13 PM

    Are you claiming that this story is a FABRICATION too?

  16. 2010_DHB_70rec_900yds_10tds says: Sep 1, 2010 6:13 PM

    2 games, if he was on another team, 6 games

  17. buckeye044 says: Sep 1, 2010 6:15 PM

    Other than general stupidity, which he has plenty of………what did he do wrong?

  18. geogibso says: Sep 1, 2010 6:15 PM

    Congratulations Ben, you’ve successfully made it 6 months without raping anyone…Welcome back to the league!!!

  19. BCfromHell says: Sep 1, 2010 6:17 PM

    Exactly what has Roethlisberger done that demonstrates that he deserves a reduction in penalty? He was suspended for 6 games for conduct detrimental to the league. He was ordered to seek counseling and as far as I can tell, thats what he’s done. Plus he’s managed to go 4-5 months without raping anyone.
    So exactly how is he above and beyond what’s been asked of him? Its not like he’s volunteered his time at a shelter for battered women. He hasn’t made sizeable donations to womens charities, he hasn’t volunteered to do PSA’s promoting awareness…, He hasn’t done anything.
    He was suspended for 6 games. Let him sit 6 games. Thats what will affect him the most and that’s probably the NFL’s best chance to get through to him. Reducing the penalty by a single game rewards him for nothing.

  20. Tomthebombtracy says: Sep 1, 2010 6:17 PM

    CBS will also attend the meeting.
    Stuck with no decent early game and not having the late game as it’s FOX’s turn, CBS will project a huge national rating for Ravens at Steelers at 1:00.
    TV rules.

  21. PittsburghSteelerz says: Sep 1, 2010 6:17 PM

    Damn straight…
    Murder dogs for years, 1-2 games. Vick should still be in FEDERAL prision.
    Bathroom BJ, 4-6 games?
    Maybe if Ben was even CHARGED with a crime, we can continue this conversation.
    Unfair.

  22. Belichick for President says: Sep 1, 2010 6:17 PM

    Well, at least when Goodell says No, Ben can appeal the decision to a different person and get a fair, unbiased response.
    No, wait, that’s not true. How did Goodell get away with making himself judge, jury, and executioner again?

  23. cunn9305 says: Sep 1, 2010 6:18 PM

    He shoulda just brought an AK – 47 into the john and he would got off scott free … worked for Sean Rogers …

  24. FloriosHairHat says: Sep 1, 2010 6:19 PM

    # Doug O says: September 1, 2010 6:08 PM
    “Seems pretty steep penalty for having sex in the bathroom at a bar.”
    Seems pretty steep considering he was never arrested or even charged with ANYthing, while there are guys skating by who were arrested and charged with all kinds of offenses since then… guns in airports, DUI’s, you know… actual crimes.
    Just goes to show it isn’t the “crime” itself, but how much publicity you received.

  25. Nick says: Sep 1, 2010 6:20 PM

    I’m a Ravens fan and I want to see him on the field on week 4 when it’s Baltimore & Pittsburgh matching up.
    Goodell, give ‘em 3!

  26. kosarsmyidol says: Sep 1, 2010 6:20 PM

    Goodell knows that Ben doesn’t take ‘No’ for an answer. This could be interesting…

  27. Bill.Polian says: Sep 1, 2010 6:22 PM

    I ask for 3 decades in prison for Rapistberger.

  28. TheVulture says: Sep 1, 2010 6:23 PM

    He’s going to ask for something? I thought he just took want he wants. That’s what serial rapists do.

  29. js136202 says: Sep 1, 2010 6:23 PM

    Goodell has no credibility. If he lowers the suspension from 6 games to 3, he’ll manage to have even less.

  30. Bwa Ha Ha says: Sep 1, 2010 6:25 PM

    Sure, Go to three then tell Ben that if he has one more incident he will be suspended for lie. With no appeal
    Easy enough…….

  31. Phokus says: Sep 1, 2010 6:26 PM

    Amazing, so that scumbag Rooney is actually going to lobby on behalf of Ben? Weren’t they critical of him? Guess they want to send a message that we shouldn’t punish rapists TOO badly.

  32. pghguyy33 says: Sep 1, 2010 6:27 PM

    ater the handgun fiasco i dont blame him.

  33. shaggeez says: Sep 1, 2010 6:29 PM

    eh no chance he reduces it.
    its like a parent grounding their kid from their phone and then handing it back early because the kid whines…destroys credibility

  34. atAboy says: Sep 1, 2010 6:29 PM

    Please go ahead and bring your “she said NO sign”. I will bring my “your secondary said NO sign” and display it proudly as Ben rapes your teams secondary. LOL

  35. Ravenmaniac says: Sep 1, 2010 6:29 PM

    Just as I thought….he did not learn anything!!
    Personally, I hope he is back for game 4 against the Ravens….

  36. INVAIDUH says: Sep 1, 2010 6:31 PM

    soooo…
    even though he kept it in his pants for the meeting it still didnt matter?

  37. Pancho says: Sep 1, 2010 6:33 PM

    can’t hurt to ask..

  38. Bob Nelson says: Sep 1, 2010 6:33 PM

    Make it 8 games.

  39. PFTiswhatitis says: Sep 1, 2010 6:34 PM

    Doug O says:
    September 1, 2010 6:08 PM
    Seems pretty steep penalty for having sex in the bathroom at a bar.
    buckeye044 says:
    September 1, 2010 6:15 PM
    Other than general stupidity, which he has plenty of………what did he do wrong?
    SHE SAID NO.
    Obviously Ben is not the only one that hasn’t learned right from wrong. Too bad they can’t suspend some of you fans.

  40. EverybodyGotAIDS says: Sep 1, 2010 6:34 PM

    buckeye044 says:
    September 1, 2010 6:15 PM
    Other than general stupidity, which he has plenty of………what did he do wrong?
    _________
    Ummm…..have you been living under a rock for the past 6 months?
    I’ll give you a hint: it rhymes with gape. Or….bexual massault.

  41. Meldog says: Sep 1, 2010 6:36 PM

    This is bargaining 101…..ask for more than you deserve so you can get what you want.
    He is positioning himself for a 4 game suspension instead of a 5 game suspension.

  42. JimmySmith says: Sep 1, 2010 6:37 PM

    Instead of asking the question for a reduction in the number of games, maybe he should have asked her permission first before he whipped out his Johnson and attacked the girl.
    what a scum bag, Steeler fans must be proud.

  43. steeltownpride says: Sep 1, 2010 6:37 PM

    Well considering that the current players that got into trouble (Rogers , Benson etc) didnt get suspended that maybe he didnt suspend them cause he wanted to send a message that more than 2 games would be deducted . The controversy is over . Make it 2 games and take the extra 4 weeks of pay away . That makes it a total of 6 games .

  44. horntoad says: Sep 1, 2010 6:37 PM

    Old Roger only wavers for guys who try and carry loaded handguns through airport security.
    Anyway Goodell left his balls on Kraft’s desk long ago!

  45. karmathaitch says: Sep 1, 2010 6:37 PM

    rapist

  46. kevind says: Sep 1, 2010 6:38 PM

    Funny I dont recall Ben geeting charged with rape.I guess that doesnt matter to all the Ben and Steeler haters that just cant help themselves and have to visit a Steeler board to call a man that was never even charged with speeding let alone rape a rapist.

  47. steelers rule says: Sep 1, 2010 6:38 PM

    Godell better not give him any games! He was NEVER CHARGED, NEVER ARRESTED, NEVER SUED! DFT ( Down to F*&) TEH NAME SHE GAVE TO wIS A LYING DRUNK B*&*H!

  48. ECS - Brougham Boys 74 says: Sep 1, 2010 6:38 PM

    Deer Mr Gooddell,
    Me shood be ables to play teh footballz sooner becuz me hasnt raped for 2 whole month. Its is sooo harrd not rape anyone when Little Ben so lonely. Noones want touch Big Bens Little Ben becuz Big Ben so ugly. :(
    Pleeze. Me been so good. 2 month! Me no drink with yung girlz or do “Little Ben Touchdown Dance” no more. Me miss “Little Ben Touchdown Dance”. How suppost to shake Little Ben on yung girlz face if no drink or sexes no more? Pleeze no more suspinded so me can find sole mate in McDonald bathroom. BEN LIKE HAMBeRGERz!! Yung girlz + hambergerz make Ben happie gay! If gurlz not like Ben, Ben show them Little Ben Touchdown Dance and give more takeela! Everyonz happy NOW! Plus me hired new poleese mens to keep gurlz in bathroom so noones can tell on me! Seee. Ime a sinsetive guy! Ime a nu man!
    Pleeze lets me plays duh footballz agin and no more Little Ben Touchdown Dance for many week!!
    Sensereley,
    Ben Rotlizbergerz
    PS – Me ask Tony Dungee to help with touchdown dance, he say no. You not lissin to Dungee, he dosnt like hambergerz or gurlz. Or takeela. Dungee has no game. Not lyke Ben.

  49. username says: Sep 1, 2010 6:39 PM

    I am going to ask for a unicorn for my birthday.

  50. Stoney18 says: Sep 1, 2010 6:39 PM

    Anybody think that there isn’t “STAR” status in the NFL?? Anybody think that the suits don’t worry about $$ and game ratings?? All that rule stuff about behavior and being a good citizen and representing your team appropriately certainly gets pushed to the back once the noise has quieted down from the initial incident. I just wish they wouldn’t pretend that there IS a Personal Conduct Policy. Isn’t is just great that Ben hasn’t ravished someone under the age of 21 in the last several weeks? Gee, we’d better let him play in a key matchup game. Please ……..

  51. Deb says: Sep 1, 2010 6:39 PM

    He’d be a fool if he didn’t ask–especially since Mr. Stainless Shield Goodell made clear at the time of suspension that he doesn’t put any stock in Andrea McNulty’s civil accusation in Nevada and he has a report from NFL Security saying the Georgia accusation was false. He knows Roethlisberger didn’t rape anyone, so the most he’s guilty of is acting like an immature frat boy. Meanwhile, Vince Young–a guy with a history of problems–assaulted a guy in a nightclub. And Brandon Underwood was falsely accused of rape and dragged six teammates into it while soliciting prostitutes–an illegal activity. Where are their suspensions.
    Since Roethlisberger has done everything expected of him, the suspension should be reduced to two games–three at the most. And if they don’t make the request, they have no chance of getting that.
    @geogibso …
    No doubt I’m wasting my keystrokes on morons who haven’t read any of the case file, but based on the evidence produced in these cases, Ben Roethlisberger has made it 28 years without raping anyone. I’d be willing to bet the farm a lot of guys posting on PFT cannot say that.

  52. Green n' Gold says: Sep 1, 2010 6:40 PM

    Don’t think so Rapistberger!!

  53. steelers rule says: Sep 1, 2010 6:42 PM

    Godell better reduce it to zero games. Ben was NEVER CHARGED, NEVER ARRESTED, NEVER SUED! Peopel forget she gave the name DTF ( Down to F@#k) to Willie Colon and wanted to know if there was a sausage fest going on because no good looking girls there and she was the best! Ben never raped her, probaly “Clinton sexed her and she got pissed! Also before that there were other college girls who wanted Ben to go back to the dorms and he said” that’s a lawsuit waitign to happen!” I just want DTF’s name to come out so she can be EXPOSED!

  54. tk1966 says: Sep 1, 2010 6:43 PM

    # Straydogg_0 says: September 1, 2010 6:09 PM
    I’ll be getting my “she said NO sign” ready to roll whenever he suits up!
    _______________________________
    is that in case anyone asks you what her response was when she was asked if she’d been raped?

  55. OranjelloJones says: Sep 1, 2010 6:43 PM

    Yea you do that Straydogg and make sure you have a copy of a “DTF” nametag on your shirt the way she did that night and when folks ask you what it means you give the same answer she did. There is no evidence the guy committed any crime whatsoever just like there is none that “she said no”. In fact all of the evidence supports the notion that SHE pursued him. Hence the lack of any charges whatsoever.
    The guy shouldn’t be suspended at all. He was a low rent jerkoff, but I still have yet to see what rules he broke let alone laws.

  56. Rightnow says: Sep 1, 2010 6:44 PM

    If I rape somebody do I get 4 weeks paid vacation?

  57. Tigers Johnson says: Sep 1, 2010 6:44 PM

    If this happens it will just prove again that the League favors a select few teams…

  58. stiller43 says: Sep 1, 2010 6:48 PM

    # kosarsmyidol says: September 1, 2010 6:20 PM
    Goodell knows that Ben doesn’t take ‘No’ for an answer. This could be interesting…
    _________________________________
    Not gonna lie, that was really funny.

  59. cheatriots says: Sep 1, 2010 6:51 PM

    He is a RAPIST and he is very likely to offend again. When he does it will be an awesome media frenzy. String him up by the balls Goodell and then let people hit him with bats for 5 dollars each next year to generate revenue.

  60. intrepidbullitt says: Sep 1, 2010 6:57 PM

    Same arrogant, ignorant prick. At his age, that won’t change.

  61. lieutenant Dan's Ice Cream says: Sep 1, 2010 7:01 PM

    What a turd. I hope Suggs breaks him in two if he comes back early.

  62. PittsburghSteelerz says: Sep 1, 2010 7:02 PM

    after the handgun fiasco i dont blame him.
    ———————-
    True.
    Browns DT tries to take a gun on an airplane, no suspension. If I did that I’d be at guantanamo bay.
    Ben gets a bathroom BJ and it’s 6 games. Really?

  63. zabam says: Sep 1, 2010 7:07 PM

    The very asking for a suspension reduction beyond the original minimum is indication that Rothlisburger doesn’t feel contrition or accountability for his actions. He’s done what was necessary to put himself in the best position for himself – just like he put himself in the best position for himself with underage girls: utilizing alchohol, guards, financial and physical power. He hasn’t changed a bit, and should serve his full 6 game suspension – simply as punishment and as a deterent to others. Rooney will be supporting the request simply in support of his business interst. Maybe the girl’s parents should attend the meeting also? This will be a real test of Goodall’s stones.

  64. oyoy84 says: Sep 1, 2010 7:08 PM

    So basically, not raping anyone for 4 months is considered good behavior?

  65. Voyager6 says: Sep 1, 2010 7:11 PM

    The solution is easy. Let Ben buy back games by paying up 2 (or 3 or 4) checks for each game bought back.
    For example, to buy only a 3 game suspension, pay up 9 gamechecks (2 checks x 3 game reduciton plus 3 checks for the remaining games suspended).
    If the wants to start the season, pay up 12 game checks.
    Only thing wrong is that someone will foot the bill for him (Rooney’s?) and he won’t feel it out of his pocket.

  66. steelers rule says: Sep 1, 2010 7:16 PM

    I hope all you haters get charged and arrested for a crime you never committ to see how you like it! You will be raped in prison and ENJOY it!

  67. blitz43burgh92 says: Sep 1, 2010 7:17 PM

    EverybodyGotAIDS says:
    September 1, 2010 6:34 PM
    buckeye044 says:
    September 1, 2010 6:15 PM
    Other than general stupidity, which he has plenty of………what did he do wrong?
    _________
    Ummm…..have you been living under a rock for the past 6 months?
    I’ll give you a hint: it rhymes with gape. Or….bexual massault
    ——————————
    i guess you r under that same rock dummy,did you her story,sounded made up to me ,but you hate on the steelers anyway,

  68. flake13 says: Sep 1, 2010 7:17 PM

    THIS IS A DONE DEAL!
    Goodell has been greasing the skids for a reduction for months, by not suspending a series of players who have been arrested and charged. [Young, Benson, that stupid nose tackle for the Browns, etc…] He’s trying to lessen the impact and outcry–like when Ford pardoned Nixon…then pardoned the draft dodgers to keep the masses from storming the White House.
    He knows he overreacted. He wasn’t arrested or charged because the girl said “No” when first asked if he raped her…changed her story three times…and couldn’t remember the position they were in… Oh, and I left out that there was no trace of seamen or evidence of penetration. [this is all in the transcript, read it]

  69. njhitman says: Sep 1, 2010 7:21 PM

    Look at the list of guys that needed a suspension for getting locked up!!!!!!!!
    8/17/10: 8/8/10: Browns DB Gerard Lawson is charged with drunk driving and hit-skip. 7/19/10: Falcons DT Jonathan Babineaux pleads no contest to marijuana possession. 7/13/10: Browns DT Shaun Rogers enters a diversion program following an arrest for attempting to board a plane with a gun. 7/3/10: Seahawks RB Quinton Ganther is arrested for DUI. 6/29/2010: Bengals RB Cedric Benson is arrested for assault with injury. 5/26/2010: Dolphins DE Phillip Merling is arrested for aggravated battery. 5/23/2010: Saints rookie Harry Coleman is arrested for simple battery.
    5/4/2010: Bengals WR Maurice Purify is arrested for disorderly conduct.
    And the list gose on thats been in cuffs and not in the good way

  70. tk1966 says: Sep 1, 2010 7:22 PM

    # Rightnow says: September 1, 2010 6:44 PM
    If I rape somebody do I get 4 weeks paid vacation?
    ________________________________
    Lets take this question one item at a time.
    1. 4 weeks paid… – lets forget about the did he / didn’t he question for a moment. Regardless, during his “vacation”, he won’t be getting paid, so that makes this part of your question look stupid; hence it makes you look stupid.
    2. Do you really think that a competitive athlete would feel that 4 weeks not playing due to suspension as a “vacation”? You are two for two so far in making yourself look stupid.
    3. “If I rape someone…” Based on how stupid you obviously are, that seems to be the only way you would actually have sex. Strike three. You’re out!

  71. blitz43burgh92 says: Sep 1, 2010 7:25 PM

    lieutenant Dan’s Ice Cream says:
    September 1, 2010 7:01 PM
    What a turd. I hope Suggs breaks him in two if he comes back early
    ____________________
    bahahahahahah the only thing suggs is breaking is a rib bone of a slab of ribs stupied raven fan ,and joe blow flocco ,just got sack again by woodly

  72. khall says: Sep 1, 2010 7:29 PM

    Brandon Underwood, Eric Foster, and Eric Green are were accused of rape this off-season. None have been suspended.
    Vince Young assaulted someone in a strip club over a stupid hand sign (which was videotaped and shown all over the sports news sites) and hasn’t been suspended.
    Pacman Jones had six years of arrests, convictions, and pleas, and was involved in two shootings within a few months before his FIRST league suspension.
    Ray Lewis was heavily fined but not suspended after a murder charge.
    Yeah, Roethlisberger should be glad he “only” got six games for an allegation!
    Idiots abound!

  73. P-townPacker says: Sep 1, 2010 7:35 PM

    Deb says:
    September 1, 2010 6:39 PM
    And Brandon Underwood was falsely accused of rape and dragged six teammates into it while soliciting prostitutes–an illegal activity. Where are their suspensions.
    —————–
    Better do some research if you are going to tell everyone else to do research on Ben. Underwood hasn’t been charged either and everyone knows that the girls lied to the police. That is worse than not saying anything like what is being claimed with the girl Ben “raped.” It’s worse because it takes all of their credibility away. Can’t say that when someone keeps their mouth shut.

  74. wrath4771 says: Sep 1, 2010 7:35 PM

    Clearly Ben doesn’t get it and won’t until he ends up in jail or cut for his behavior. I’m pulling for jail.

  75. flake13 says: Sep 1, 2010 7:36 PM

    lieutenant Dan’s Ice Cream
    I hear Suggs came into camp early this year…so he could beat Cody to the buffet line.

  76. ECS - Brougham Boys 74 says: Sep 1, 2010 7:36 PM

    @flake13 –
    Guess you never bothered to read the actual police reports, eh?
    The victim never said she wasn’t raped. She said she WAS raped, and asked where to get help, and then her friends asked multiple cops what to do. Then, after being mocked and ignored by the police when trying to report the rape, her friends just took her to the hospital directly, where she was immediately tested. The hospital found clear evidence to show that she had been raped (bruising and laceration consistent with involuntary sex). In fact, the evidence against Rapistberger was so clear and so conclusive and unanimous among multiple witnesses that the police department fired the cop on duty who had ignored her and mocked her as a “f*cking slut”. The only reason Ben wasn’t charged is because he paid her a few million bucks to keep quiet, and she refused to cooperate with the prosecution. NEVER did the victim say she wasn’t raped, or even if she wasn’t sure, she said very clearly she was forced to have sex with him against her will, multiple times, to multiple police officers and at the hospital.
    But whatever. Don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story.

  77. Marcinik07 says: Sep 1, 2010 7:43 PM

    @flake13 Suggs came into camp lighter than he was when he was a rookie. Get ready for him…

  78. RAVNATION says: Sep 1, 2010 7:43 PM

    # 8man says: September 1, 2010 6:09 PM
    And I will ask my wife for porn grade sexual favors.
    Ben and I both will be denied.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    LOL! Nicely said!

  79. ECS - Brougham Boys 74 says: Sep 1, 2010 7:48 PM

    Hopefully, someone will destroy his knee in the first few games, Carson Palmer style (the irony!). When that happens, I will applaud a football injury for the first time in my life.

  80. Macadamia says: Sep 1, 2010 7:51 PM

    # blitz43burgh92 says: September 1, 2010 7:25 PM
    lieutenant Dan’s Ice Cream says:
    September 1, 2010 7:01 PM
    What a turd. I hope Suggs breaks him in two if he comes back early
    ____________________
    bahahahahahah the only thing suggs is breaking is a rib bone of a slab of ribs stupied raven fan ,and joe blow flocco ,just got sack again by woodly
    ********************************************
    Interesting spellings of stupid, Flacco, and your own player’s last name.
    Stay classy Pittsburgh.

  81. LuckyPierre says: Sep 1, 2010 7:52 PM

    I don’t see Goodell giving him less than four games, but I can see him easing some other elements of suspension, such as allowing him to practice or other contact with the team before four games are done. That would allow him to continue to look at it as “minimum of four games” and emphasize that good behavior recently won’t undo his actions that forced the suspension, but also show some mercy/compassion and meet the player and team halfway. But any easing up on those elements of the suspension will serve as precedent, so he has to be careful – he can’t allow Ben on the sidelines for game four or anything like that.
    If he’s not allowed to practice or look at tape with coaches or anything until four games are done, that’s not setting him up to be that successful in game five.

  82. kevind says: Sep 1, 2010 7:53 PM

    @P-townPacker
    So according to your bizarre logic Underwood is completly different than Ben because according to you “everyone knows” that the girl lied to the cops.Are you even paying attention?The Millidgeville girl changed her story every time she told it.Therefore taking all of her creditibilty away.Saying nothing of the fact that it was proven after a through examination of the woman that she didnt have intercourtse that night and there was no proof of semen,even though she claimed that there was.Last I checked Underwood didnt get a suspension.Ben did.So why dont you try to explain why that is?

  83. TryTheVeal says: Sep 1, 2010 7:53 PM

    And in the end…..it has become apparent that Steelers fans are more a douchebag than Ben…At least ben had a reason to try circumvent his suspension, that would be money, fame and a legacy, but the yinzer fans have no other reason but to live their lives tru the athletic prowess of another man…….What a sad state of affairs, …Listen Steeleers fans, just find a hound in that city to precreate with, and in 17 years offer up to the altar of Ben………..Second class city. second class inahbitants…..

  84. robert ethen says: Sep 1, 2010 7:55 PM

    Ruthless dug out some of his old school notebooks to reassure himself that “3 is less than 4″. He was pretty sure, but it never hurts to check.

  85. NOwillrepeat says: Sep 1, 2010 7:56 PM

    Let’s not consider OJ a murderer either, he was never convicted right?
    The fact that he’s asking for a reduction proves that he believes he did nothing wrong and has learned nada. If he was truly remorseful, as he claims to be, he would take his suspension like a man and reflect on his mistake.
    “But Commissioner Goddell, I haven’t raped anybody in like, 3-4 months. That’s a new record for me. Shouldn’t that speak for something?”
    If Im the commissioner, I consider this an insult an uphold the 6 games. Considering this creep should be in jail.

  86. TheVulture says: Sep 1, 2010 7:57 PM

    Jefe did say “If you want the woman, you take the woman.”

  87. brownsfn19 says: Sep 1, 2010 7:58 PM

    Next time you should ask before you take the p**** Ben….

  88. Mr T says: Sep 1, 2010 7:58 PM

    Perhaps he should have Shaun Rogers threaten Goodell with his carry-on luggage

  89. tk1966 says: Sep 1, 2010 8:01 PM

    Looks like Macadamia has anointed himself grammar / spelling police. Why don’t you regale us with your tales of perfection. I’m sure we’d all like to know what that’s like.

  90. sharkattack says: Sep 1, 2010 8:01 PM

    Rape is no joke.
    I know we all joke a lot on here, but lets not push it. Certain things are in bad taste. Personally, I think he should be given the death penalty. I know that isn’t realistic because nothing was proven despite allegations on three separate occasions. If you go into 3 towns, and a dog bites you in each town, its probably not the dogs. But I digress.
    The point is rape is not funny in any way. Whatever happens, happens. Let it be, and let it rest. I am a Cleveland fan, and I will NOT be bringing signs saying “she said no.” That is making light of a serious situation. The victim, weather she was DTF of not, still suffered. I have no respect for this man, and wish him nothing but pain, but I will not make rape into a joke.

  91. BigBear123 says: Sep 1, 2010 8:03 PM

    8man says:
    September 1, 2010 6:09 PM
    And I will ask my wife for porn grade sexual favors.
    Ben and I both will be denied.
    ——— get her drunk.
    It’s not rape if you are married.

  92. kevind says: Sep 1, 2010 8:03 PM

    @TryTheVeal
    And this is coming from a guy that is constantly trooling another Steelers headline.Who’s the douchebag now jagoff!!

  93. BigOx says: Sep 1, 2010 8:04 PM

    I agree, do your time and quit whining. He’s reducing it by two games – not happy with that? Don’t like being suspended do ya? Then leave your Roofies at home and your penis in your pants. By the way, is it just me or does Ben look like Will Ferrell when he’s wearing his helmet?

  94. tk1966 says: Sep 1, 2010 8:04 PM

    # TryTheVeal says: September 1, 2010 7:53 PM
    Second class city. second class inahbitants…..
    So says veal as he types from the back bedroom in his mother’s trailer…
    (Sure hope I didn’t make any spelling or grammar mistakes – don’t want macadamia to have to work too hard)

  95. flake13 says: Sep 1, 2010 8:06 PM

    ECS – Brougham Boys 74
    She did say “No” when she was first asked.
    She did change her story about what position they were in: first she said she was sitting on the toilet, then she said she couldn’t remember.
    There was no seamen found.
    They found slight bruising that COULD have come from sexual contact.
    This is all documented in her testimony and police report…and you are just a lying piece of…
    It’s okay to hate the Steelers…just do it waith the facts!

  96. Rightnow says: Sep 1, 2010 8:07 PM

    To mr. Tk1966.
    First off I don’t understand why you run your mouth on a blog like a scared little punk. Because I know for a fact you wouldn’t say nothing to me in person. Second I was just sharing a joke with the world and having fun, and you gotta get all tough and think your the man. Well have fun in front of computer screen and don’t watch to much Asian porn that stuffs bad for you sight. I’m gonna go outside now :)

  97. tk1966 says: Sep 1, 2010 8:08 PM

    Sharkattack is sensitive about jokes – after all, he is a Browns fan
    Q: What do you call a Cleveland Brown with a SuperBowl ring? A: A thief

  98. myspaceyourface says: Sep 1, 2010 8:09 PM

    2 drunk people having sex in a public place is disgusting, but not illegal.

  99. khall says: Sep 1, 2010 8:10 PM

    NOwillrepeat says: September 1, 2010 7:56 PM
    Let’s not consider OJ a murderer either, he was never convicted right?
    _________
    What in the HELL does O.J. Simpson’s arrest and long murder trial have to do with Ben Roethlisberger’s accusation?
    NOTHING! Roethlisberger was never “convicted” because he was NEVER charged with anything! Get it?

  100. The Terminator says: Sep 1, 2010 8:14 PM

    Macadamia….NUT!

  101. clintcooper says: Sep 1, 2010 8:17 PM

    Wow this guy’s got some balls I’ll give him that. He rapes not one, but two women and wants his overall punishment to be a tiny suspension from the NFL. He’s lucky he’s not getting ass-raped with a broken bottle in a Georgia prison.

  102. spudz says: Sep 1, 2010 8:21 PM

    If Ben thinks this is going to be some kind of negotiation he will be mistaken. The only thing that should come out of his mouth is yes sir and no sir.

  103. it's all bs says: Sep 1, 2010 8:22 PM

    @TryTheVeal says:
    September 1, 2010 7:53 PM
    And in the end…..it has become apparent that Steelers fans are more a douchebag than Ben…At least ben had a reason to try circumvent his suspension, that would be money, fame and a legacy, but the yinzer fans have no other reason but to live their lives tru the athletic prowess of another man…….What a sad state of affairs, …Listen Steeleers fans, just find a hound in that city to precreate with, and in 17 years offer up to the altar of Ben………..Second class city. second class inahbitants
    _________________
    Blah, blah, blah, blah….please do try to make some sense the next time you post on here because no one has a clue about your rant but you!
    Go Steelers!

  104. Mr T says: Sep 1, 2010 8:26 PM

    Perhaps he should have Shaun Rogers threaten Goodell with his carry-on luggage

  105. steelcarrot says: Sep 1, 2010 8:26 PM

    Ben should be grateful for “only” getting a four to six game suspension, but to ask for less than four games seriously brings up the question of “what did Ben actually learn from this”?
    I’ll be getting my “she said NO sign” ready to roll whenever he suits up!
    OOOOOOOO….That will get him. So original. You asshole.

  106. P-townPacker says: Sep 1, 2010 8:27 PM

    kevind says:
    September 1, 2010 7:53 PM
    @P-townPacker
    So according to your bizarre logic Underwood is completly different than Ben because according to you “everyone knows” that the girl lied to the cops.Are you even paying attention?The Millidgeville girl changed her story every time she told it.Therefore taking all of her creditibilty away.Saying nothing of the fact that it was proven after a through examination of the woman that she didnt have intercourtse that night and there was no proof of semen,even though she claimed that there was.Last I checked Underwood didnt get a suspension.Ben did.So why dont you try to explain why that is?
    —————-
    First off, I never said it was different, so maybe you should re-read my post. And I was mistaken about the girl in Ben’s case not talking, and all of the same evidence you stated is pretty much the same in Underwood’s, so I apologize about that.
    But to put it bluntly about why Underwood wasn’t suspended is that this is the first time he has been in a situation like this; it’s not Ben’s first. Plus, if you throw in the fact that he has done other stupid things, like riding a motorcycle without an helmet, it was warranted that something needed to be done to get him under control by the league. I’m sure that if it happens to Underwood again, he’ll be suspended just like Ben. That is my best guess, but if you would look at it “logically,” you could have seen it yourself.
    I also believe that the suspension was a little hefty. The league needs to get its suspensions “equal.” Someone has posted about this already, but to throw more out there, how is Johnny Jolly’s 1 year suspension for drugs equal to Stallworth’s 1 year suspension for killing someone while driving drunk?
    I only commented on Deb’s post because she(?) was talking like Underwood’s situation was worse, when it really isn’t, and it’s his first offense.

  107. GB3Pack4 says: Sep 1, 2010 8:27 PM

    RG should never have mentioned the possibility of a reduction from 6 to 4, but having said it, he needs to keep that 4 game thing as the minimum, not cave in. If he reduces it to 4 instead of 3, it’ll be interesting to see how Ben and his organization-groupies take it – should be a good index to just what, and how much, Ben has REALLY learned.

  108. it's all bs says: Sep 1, 2010 8:28 PM

    ECS – Brougham Boys 74 says:
    September 1, 2010 7:48 PM
    Hopefully, someone will destroy his knee in the first few games, Carson Palmer style (the irony!). When that happens, I will applaud a football injury for the first time in my life.
    ______________________
    dude you are saying THAT and you think Ben has the problem….get some freaking help for Christ’s sake!
    Go Steelers!

  109. steeelfann says: Sep 1, 2010 8:30 PM

    All I can say is “DTF”.

  110. Blackn'Gold says: Sep 1, 2010 8:30 PM

    If Roethlisberger does ask Goodell, I hope he does it with some humility and tact. Then accept, without disagreement, whatever the answer is. Otherwise there may be no games dropped from Ben’s suspension.
    GO STEELERS!

  111. queenie says: Sep 1, 2010 8:31 PM

    tk1966 says:
    September 1, 2010 8:08 PM
    Sharkattack is sensitive about jokes – after all, he is a Browns fan
    Q: What do you call a Cleveland Brown with a SuperBowl ring? A: A thief
    ______________
    Now THAT’S funny….sad…but funny!
    GO STEELERS!

  112. tk1966 says: Sep 1, 2010 8:31 PM

    @ Rightnow
    Thanks, you made my day. Seems like I hit a raw nerve with you. But please, can’t you come up with something better than “punk” and some lame “asian porn” reference?
    “Because I know for a fact you wouldn’t say nothing to me in person.” Really? You pull out this old retort? Don’t you think just about everyone here has heard this before? Am I supposed to feel intimidated? That’s such an easy “threat” to make because we all know that these boards are anonymous. Dolt.
    Take a time out, and come back later and try again. Good luck.

  113. TryTheVeal says: Sep 1, 2010 8:33 PM

    Truth…..or none of ya would have commented or gave a rats ass……..rest my case…carry on

  114. queenie says: Sep 1, 2010 8:33 PM

    connie says:
    September 1, 2010 6:08 PM
    What ever the Rooneys want they get.
    He should be in jail. NFL going to the dogs.
    Let the good catholic Rooneys go to church tomorrow and pray that he gets 3 game.
    Why not ask for 0 games. they will get it.
    They all should hang their heads in shame
    __________________
    Connie…where’s the love sweetie? And just because you said so we’ll make sure that Ben asks for 0 games…there see how easy it is my love!
    Go Steelers!

  115. Laxer37 says: Sep 1, 2010 8:37 PM

    Love the comments from everyone that thinks Ben was the first high profile athlete to get a bj from a drunk chick in a bar, who then sobered up, felt like a tramp, and saw dollar signs.
    Every NFL groupie in the country now knows it only takes an accusation to get a player suspended.
    It’s a slippery slope were on.

  116. kevind says: Sep 1, 2010 8:39 PM

    I love that a guy that was never even charged with rape and idiotic comments from apparently brainless morons continue to say things like This guy raped 2 women.Give me a break guys.If the guy was found guilty of rape then thats one thing,but to say a guy raped 2 women and he wasnt even charged once.Well,your just making yourself sound like hateful, bitter rival fans.If you look at the evidence from both cases you will clearly see that there is not even a shed of proof that any wrong doing was involved.

  117. queenie says: Sep 1, 2010 8:41 PM

    clintcooper says:
    September 1, 2010 8:17 PM
    Wow this guy’s got some balls I’ll give him that. He rapes not one, but two women and wants his overall punishment to be a tiny suspension from the NFL. He’s lucky he’s not getting ass-raped with a broken bottle in a Georgia prison.
    __________________
    hey kids this concludes today’s “Big Ben” show…..please tune in tomorrow for a new episode and thanks for tuning in!
    WTF?????

  118. wyoff says: Sep 1, 2010 8:42 PM

    What police report did you read, ECS – Brougham Boys 74? It obviously wasn’t the real one. I read the reports, I watched the interviews- your fabrication is not what what was reported.
    In the real world, his accuser said that Ben raped her while she was sitting normal style on a toilet seat and that he did so while standing and by pulling it up over his belt. Despite being raped with Roethlisberger’s apparently blue-whale like, flexible, 9 foot long penis, the rape kit showed no sign of rape, nor was there any DNA evidence of anything. Magic penis?
    Keep on believing what you want, though.

  119. wyoff says: Sep 1, 2010 8:48 PM

    sharkattack says:
    September 1, 2010 8:01 PM
    Rape is no joke.
    I know we all joke a lot on here, but lets not push it. Certain things are in bad taste. Personally, I think he should be given the death penalty. I know that isn’t realistic because nothing was proven despite allegations on three separate occasions.
    _____________
    Sharkattack raped me and two other people I know. I know that I don’t have any evidence or anything, but he should be executed for his heinous crimes nonetheless.

  120. CD_Ridge says: Sep 1, 2010 8:51 PM

    Does not hurt to ask.

  121. EverybodyGotAIDS says: Sep 1, 2010 8:54 PM

    khall says:
    September 1, 2010 8:10 PM
    NOwillrepeat says: September 1, 2010 7:56 PM
    Let’s not consider OJ a murderer either, he was never convicted right?
    _________
    What in the HELL does O.J. Simpson’s arrest and long murder trial have to do with Ben Roethlisberger’s accusation?
    NOTHING! Roethlisberger was never “convicted” because he was NEVER charged with anything! Get it?
    ________________________
    That’s such a garbage argument. If he was charged but not convicted, you’d be saying that only a conviction matters. Don’t let the facts define your position.

  122. if yer not first... says: Sep 1, 2010 8:57 PM

    would somebody please tell me what the hell PigBen’s done other than not rape anybody and refuse to give up drinking? So what’s this friggin nonsense about doing everything that’s been asked of him and more?
    Jesus

  123. steveinohio says: Sep 1, 2010 9:04 PM

    Roger should bump it out to 10 games. He hasn’t learned anything.
    and he’s fat

  124. Wrathchild says: Sep 1, 2010 9:06 PM

    He can ask in one hand and crap in the other and see which fills up first.

  125. superb owl says: Sep 1, 2010 9:12 PM

    space it is illegal. in any freakin state.

  126. Holeinone09 says: Sep 1, 2010 9:14 PM

    No harm in asking, and no reason not to. If GODell says no, he says no. Ben could have appealed the ruling in the first place and didn’t. From all accounts, Ben has exceeded GODell’s minimum standards. For whatever it is worth, I think he will be suspended 4 games. Asking for less might help ensure it is cut to 4.
    I hope it is reduced, since 4-6 games was way too much for what was childish behavior and the DA didn’t press charges. But if it isn’t cut, the season will go on.
    On the other hand, it sure sounds to me like many posters are really worried that Ben might not have to sit out 4-6 games. Wonder why? The haters’ teams don’t even have to be on the Steelers’ schedule this year. Merely the fact that when Ben plays it gives the Steelers a much higher chance of beating anybody. That gives them a chance at a better record, better playoff seating, and ultimately possible facing the hater’s team in the playoffs or Super Bowl. Pretty simple reasoning to me. The longer he sits, the higher their chances of winning the Super Bowl. Hate on!
    And just remember this chant haters:
    DTF! DTF! DTF! DTF! DTF! DTF! DTF! DTF! DTF! DTF!
    Now who was responsible for that famous saying?
    GO STEELERS!!

  127. if yer not first... says: Sep 1, 2010 9:14 PM

    2 drunk people having sex in a public place is disgusting, but not illegal.
    uhm – actually it is illegal.

  128. NOwillrepeat says: Sep 1, 2010 9:23 PM

    khall:
    What in the HELL does O.J. Simpson’s arrest and long murder trial have to do with Ben Roethlisberger’s accusation?
    NOTHING! Roethlisberger was never “convicted” because he was NEVER charged with anything! Get it?
    ———————————————
    It has to do with the fact that just because the justice system does not find you guilty doesn’t mean you didn’t commit the crime.
    Rape is one of the hardest crimes to convict, as it involves very little evidence and a whole lot of “he said, she said” accusations.
    For this reason, the male perpetrator has a distinct advantage. Especially someone as polarizing as Roethlisberger.
    Just because Ben was not charged or convicted, does not convince me he is innocent. Just like OJ!
    The fact that he was accused a year prior raises even more eyebrows. Do you think that was coincidence? How come the Brees’, Brady’s, and Mannings of the world don’t find themselves in such controversial situations?
    The fact is Ben has had a history of off the field issues (Motorcycle accident, 2 rape accusations, smugness towards media and fans) and it wont change unless someone teaches him a lesson. Get it?!!

  129. metalman1320 says: Sep 1, 2010 9:27 PM

    I wonder if when Goodell says no, Ben will slam Roger’s head into the sink?

  130. axtonian says: Sep 1, 2010 9:33 PM

    big ben is wiener.
    he is a bad person.
    someday he will be broke
    he is ignant

  131. Nosredna says: Sep 1, 2010 9:38 PM

    Seems most people are forgetting this is the SECOND time in as many years ol Benny Boy has been charged accused of this same exact thing.
    He should consider himself lucky he only got 6 games with the possibility of it being reduced to 4…..he should be out for at least a year!!!!!
    SHE SAID NO

  132. connie says: Sep 1, 2010 9:42 PM

    The nerve of this piece of crap. How many more people does he need at this meeting him, rooney,his people the big man himself GOD Dell
    What about Peter King He loves Ben so much
    He picked the steelers to win the super bowl
    The year he picked the Fins they went 1 and 15
    Lets not forget Ben is a changed man. lol lol
    He is still a big a__ hole
    Just so you know I’m from Pgh

  133. TimTheEnchanter says: Sep 1, 2010 9:43 PM

    No means no!
    Yet again, he is given limits to work within (possible reduction to 4 games), and he demands that he get more in return than the other party intends to give him just because of who he is.
    It doesn’t look like he’s learned a damn thing.

  134. Supersix says: Sep 1, 2010 9:55 PM

    Ben does need to wise up and become more mature and he did a classless thing but I’d bet most NFL players have taken advantage of a drunken woman. Remember she would NOT testify under oath. Does this not mean anything to you Steelers haters. He was never even arrested and gets a 6 game suspension? What about V Young? Assaulting someone in a strip club. Arrested. Crime on tape. No suspension. Where is the justice? I hate to open up a can of worms but maybe this is reverse discrimination. Almost all NFL suspensions have been on black players. Black NFL players were pushing Goodell for a big suspension. Where is the players union with such a out of the ordinary suspension? Oh, that’s right. The union leaders are black.

  135. kevind says: Sep 1, 2010 9:59 PM

    @P-townPacker
    I think you misunderstand what I was trying to say.I dont think Underwood should have got a suspension for his incident.The same as I thought that Ben’s suspension was clearly excessive.I dont see how you get a possible 6 game suspension without even being charged with a crime.As far as not wearing a helmet.Thats not a crime.Its not illegal to drive a motorcycle in PA without a helmet.Its not smart,but its not Illegal.He does need to grow up and start being alot smarter.Hopefully after this he quits acting like 20 year old frat boy.Thats his biggest problem.I certainly dont think he is some sexual deviant like some people on here make him out to be.I agree with you on the suspensions.Mr.Goddell needs to be a little more consistent with his punishment for players.

  136. steelerfan9598 says: Sep 1, 2010 10:00 PM

    “SHE SAID NO”
    Didn’t happen. Look it up.

  137. seventhheaven7 says: Sep 1, 2010 10:19 PM

    Big Ben will bring us to the Superbowl again and win it. So suck on that all you anti-Big Ben haters. You may not like it but you’ll have to live with it. He was not charged and convicted of
    NOTHING but having a good time.
    Go Steelers!

  138. Deb says: Sep 1, 2010 10:27 PM

    @P-townPacker …
    I did research Brandon Underwood’s case. He solicited two prostitutes who falsely accused him–and six teammates–of rape. Soliciting prostitutes is illegal in that jurisdiction.
    You are making a moral judgment that it is worse to be FALSELY accused of rape while LEGALLY drinking in a nightclub with a woman who has chased you all night, advertising that she is DOWN TO F**K, than it is to be falsely accused of rape by two women you have paid for sex.
    I’m stating the FACT that it’s not illegal to play pattycake with a DTF woman in a bar, but it IS illegal to solicit prostitutes. So WHERE is Brandon Underwood’s suspension?
    And I said “play pattycake” because BASED ON HER MEDICAL EXAMINATION, The ONLY way Roethlisberger had vaginal intercourse with that woman in that bathroom as she alleged is if he has an IMMACULATE PENIS. And she did not accuse him of any other kind of sex.
    Based on these infantile comments, though, a lot of people are scared spineless at the thought of Roethlisberger coming back a game early. Then again, most of you were spineless to begin with.

  139. Free_Ryan_Leaf says: Sep 1, 2010 10:44 PM

    BigBear123 says:
    September 1, 2010 8:03 PM
    8man says:
    September 1, 2010 6:09 PM
    And I will ask my wife for porn grade sexual favors.
    Ben and I both will be denied.
    ——— get her drunk.
    It’s not rape if you are married.
    *****************************************
    God I hope you are only joking.

  140. khall says: Sep 1, 2010 10:52 PM

    NOwillrepeat says: September 1, 2010 9:23 PM
    khall:
    What in the HELL does O.J. Simpson’s arrest and long murder trial have to do with Ben Roethlisberger’s accusation?
    NOTHING! Roethlisberger was never “convicted” because he was NEVER charged with anything! Get it?
    ——————– ——————– —–
    It has to do with the fact that just because the justice system does not find you guilty doesn’t mean you didn’t commit the crime.
    Rape is one of the hardest crimes to convict, as it involves very little evidence and a whole lot of “he said, she said” accusations.
    __________
    Uh Deb, you want to take this one?
    I mean besides the fact that the “justice system” didn’t find BEN guilty because it never even got to that point….
    ————————————
    # EverybodyGotAIDS says: September 1, 2010 8:54 PM
    khall says:
    What in the HELL does O.J. Simpson’s arrest and long murder trial have to do with Ben Roethlisberger’s accusation?
    NOTHING! Roethlisberger was never “convicted” because he was NEVER charged with anything! Get it?
    _________________
    That’s such a garbage argument. If he was charged but not convicted, you’d be saying that only a conviction matters. Don’t let the facts define your position.
    ————————
    “Don’t let the facts define your position.”
    How about “don’t let the FACTS get in the way of YOURS”.
    Moron!

  141. 420fan says: Sep 1, 2010 10:54 PM

    no means no

  142. Myroncope7 says: Sep 1, 2010 11:07 PM

    http://twitter.com/NFLprguy/status/20405869369
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/05/nfl-clarifies-suspension-stance-on-roethlisberger/?related=1
    Wont happen

  143. P-townPacker says: Sep 1, 2010 11:12 PM

    kevind says:
    September 1, 2010 9:59 PM
    @P-townPacker
    …He does need to grow up and start being alot smarter.Hopefully after this he quits acting like 20 year old frat boy.Thats his biggest problem…
    That is the truth.

  144. The Terminator says: Sep 1, 2010 11:20 PM

    420fan says:
    September 1, 2010 10:54 PM
    no means no
    _________
    that’s correct…when the cop asked her if she’d been raped she said “no”….see how easy it is!
    Go Steelers!

  145. BlackMagic says: Sep 1, 2010 11:20 PM

    Yo Mr Guddell,
    Me waana tank u 4 not suzpendin my azz 4 da cap busted in QPz azz @ my birfday partee. Alsoo I ain’t kilt know dogz in a long time. Or infested any trim wit vd 4 a speell neitherz. Tank u 2 4 telin them p3ta muthafukz to kizz our azz’z.
    I no mo gona do dat sho on tv, told dem it waznt my stiles no mo. If bruthaz gona get cappeed at my nexxt birfday partee, I iz redy fo sur in da futurz. Gotz me sum newz new thugz to keep thay moufs queit if da man cum back 2 azk any quezti0ns.
    Wit out footballz, no way I culd keep marcuz, my momz & da resstt of my peeepz getin dey freee rideez. Tankz agen mr guddell, gota go noww & rite my b-rupzy aturnee. Gota call andey 2 & tellz him I gotsta start.
    Laterz homiee,
    Ookie
    PS – I hollad @ Jesssie & rev 4 u 2 teell dem 2 go easy on u, tol dem u waz aiiight. Dey tol mee not 2 b fooolled by da whiitee develz, ya all no goodz. Butz I did tri roj, bestestts I culd.

  146. P-townPacker says: Sep 1, 2010 11:21 PM

    Deb says:
    September 1, 2010 10:27 PM
    @P-townPacker …
    I did research Brandon Underwood’s case. He solicited two prostitutes who falsely accused him–and six teammates–of rape. Soliciting prostitutes is illegal in that jurisdiction.
    ——-
    How could you prove that in court? The girls are already known liars, because of that night (changing theirs stories multiple times, if you had read the case…). All the defense would have to say was that the money was for them to get a cab home because everyone had been drinking that night and that is the responsible thing to do. So who would you believe, the liars or the players who have never been in a situation like this before? That’s why it won’t go to court.

  147. Steelintn says: Sep 1, 2010 11:24 PM

    @ PFTiswhatitis:
    You are right, she did say no. She told the cop no she wasn’t raped.
    @ ECS – Brougham Boys 74: Sorry dude, the seahags still lost…and you’re not funny. Well at least not the ha ha kind of funny…
    @ all the idiot ravens fans…both of you:
    Better be careful of what you wish for…
    Ben should be more worried about Ray Ray stabbing him coming out of the tunnel.
    All you haters know damn well if Ben was traded to your team tomorrow, you’d be singing a different tune. Just admit it, you hate him because he’s a winner and he’s not on your team. That’s it.
    Go Big Ben and go STEELERS!!!!!!
    SHE SAID DTF! SHE SAID DTF! SHE SAID DTF!

  148. NOwillrepeat says: Sep 1, 2010 11:52 PM

    khall:
    You can’t truly believe he’s completely innocent do you?
    What the hell is a guy like Roethlesburger doing in a place like Milledgeville, Ga anyway? With a posse? Creepin’ time!!
    Where there’s smoke there’s fire. Take your little squeeler black and yellow blinders off and read between the lines.

  149. jamaltimore says: Sep 2, 2010 12:01 AM

    As a Ravens Fan I can only hope they reduce it to 3! Nothing would be sweeter than ruining benster the molestors comeback!

  150. Deb says: Sep 2, 2010 12:15 AM

    khall says: Uh Deb, you want to take this one? :) Okay, here goes …
    ——————————————
    NOwillrepeat says:
    Rape is one of the hardest crimes to convict, as it involves very little evidence and a whole lot of “he said, she said” accusations.
    __________
    In many ways, the law favors accusers. Rape shield laws let women accuse men of assault with no risk to their own reputations. Rape is the only crime where prior accusations–even without conviction–are admissible at trial. A woman can deliberately get drunk, climb all over a man, have consensual sex with him, then accuse him of rape, claiming she was too drunk to consent.
    He said/she said is relevant ONLY in acquaintance rapes when it’s established that sex occurred. The Georgia accuser’s medical exam showed she did NOT have intercourse with anyone in that time frame. No sex = no rape. Consent is irrelevant.
    Roethlisberger doesn’t deny sex with McNulty. It’s he said/she said … she texted. The defense has copies of texts she sent friends after their one-niter saying she looked forward to seeing him again. He didn’t call … and a year later she sued for $3 million claiming she was raped.
    A woman ran a stop sign and hit Roethlisberger, who was driving 26 mph. You might want to do a little more research. I’ve spent years working with assault victims and studying these issues. Traffic accidents are not signs of sexual aggression. Neither is being a jerk to fans or skipping out on restaurant tabs.

  151. CKL says: Sep 2, 2010 12:37 AM

    Deb says: September 1, 2010 6:39 PM
    He’d be a fool if he didn’t ask–especially since Mr. Stainless Shield Goodell made clear at the time of suspension that he doesn’t put any stock in Andrea McNulty’s civil accusation in Nevada and he has a report from NFL Security saying the Georgia accusation was false.
    ______________________________________
    Hey Deb…question for you. I seem to recall at the time the suspension was handed down that BR’s people made sure to note that he would accept whatever punishment that was doled out without appeal. While I realize that they were most likely talking about that dopey and futile “appeal” process of asking Goodell to reconsider it….I can’t help but feel that it looks bad for his attempt to show himself as a changed man to appeal it even now. I think it will get reduced to 4 without any appeal. I always thought it was basically 4…the extra 2 was a built in failsafe in case things went awry.

  152. Deb says: Sep 2, 2010 1:11 AM

    @P-townPacker …
    Okay, you’ve got me :) Hey … I can’t research every case to the level I did Roethlisberger’s.
    Another Pack fan asked why I hadn’t spoken out about the false allegations against Underwood, so I read what was available at the time, was satisfied the women were lying, and commented. But I was focused on the rape issue, not the prostitution angle. Last I read, the DA was trying to decide whether to charge them w/solicitation. Not sure how he learned they were pros–maybe Underwood told him :)
    But in Goodell’s universe, it doesn’t matter whether anyone can prove Underwood was soliciting. The evidence in both Roethlisberger’s cases shows he didn’t rape anyone. He still got suspended. I think he needed the intervention to straighten up and stop acting like a frat boy. (I understand Underwood’s wife was giving birth–maybe he needs an intervention, too.) My point was that Goodell is inconsistent. I don’t have a big problem with Ben’s suspension, but I do have a big problem with Goodell’s inconsistency.

  153. sgraham628 says: Sep 2, 2010 8:22 AM

    njhitman says:
    September 1, 2010 7:21 PM
    Look at the list of guys that needed a suspension for getting locked up!!!!!!!!
    8/17/10: 8/8/10: Browns DB Gerard Lawson is charged with drunk driving and hit-skip. 7/19/10: Falcons DT Jonathan Babineaux pleads no contest to marijuana possession. 7/13/10: Browns DT Shaun Rogers enters a diversion program following an arrest for attempting to board a plane with a gun. 7/3/10: Seahawks RB Quinton Ganther is arrested for DUI. 6/29/2010: Bengals RB Cedric Benson is arrested for assault with injury. 5/26/2010: Dolphins DE Phillip Merling is arrested for aggravated battery. 5/23/2010: Saints rookie Harry Coleman is arrested for simple battery.
    5/4/2010: Bengals WR Maurice Purify is arrested for disorderly conduct.
    And the list gose on thats been in cuffs and not in the good way
    _________
    I’ll come out and say it…everyone on this list is black. If I was Ben and his lawyers…Reduce my suspension or I sue your ass for racial discrimination. This suspension is a load of crap and Goodell was looking for a white star to make an example of.

  154. The Rural Juror says: Sep 2, 2010 10:03 AM

    It is disgracegful if Goodell lets Ben off the hook for ratings and four months of good behavior.
    All of these superstar players have been given the priviledge of playing in the league.
    I’m starting to lose respect for Mr Rooney and MR Goodell with all this posturing. THey say they want to crack down, but consider shangging to boost ratings etc.
    I truly hope Mr. Goodell uses his backbone and sticks to his word and gives Ben a 6 game suspension.

  155. The Rural Juror says: Sep 2, 2010 10:20 AM

    When do people start standing by their word?
    Ben- “I’ll accept any penalty”
    Roger-“6 games with the possibility of having it reduced to 4.”
    We’re supposed to be jumping for joy because Ben has kept his nose clean for a whopping 4 mos?
    As a woman, I’m terribly offended.
    Ben needs to learn a lesson. Roger needs to grow a backbone.
    I’ll lose all respect for Goodell, Rooney and the NFL if this happens.

  156. P-townPacker says: Sep 2, 2010 10:29 AM

    Deb says:
    September 2, 2010 1:11 AM
    …I understand Underwood’s wife was giving birth–maybe he needs an intervention, too.) My point was that Goodell is inconsistent. I don’t have a big problem with Ben’s suspension, but I do have a big problem with Goodell’s inconsistency.
    ———
    Underwood could very well need one, lol. And I totally agree about Goodell’s inconsistency.

  157. C.Bass says: Sep 2, 2010 11:12 AM

    Reduce the suspension to 2 quarters.
    Having sex in a bathroom is not a crime. Read the girl’s statements people.
    It is IMPOSSIBLE to get raped while “in a sitting position” on the toilet (her testimony).
    He didn’t kill anyone like Ray Lewis and Donte Stallworth did.

  158. Bdrunk says: Sep 2, 2010 11:31 AM

    “Sal Paolantonio of ESPN reports that Roethlisberger’s representatives plan to ask Goodell to reduce the six-game suspension by at least three games.
    Steelers president Art Rooney II apparently supports the idea and plans to attend the meeting to press the case to Goodell. ”
    This isn’t Ben whining about his sentence. This is a team of reps and Art Rooney himself feeling that a possible reduction is a safe request. If Art is lobbying then the discussion of “Ben just doesn’t get it” has no merit. I’m preeeeety sure Art know’s what he’s doing. He is the one with a successful NFL team. HOWEVER, I think if it gets reduced to LESS than 4 games, then Goodell will be seen as nothing more than a puppet.
    I wouldn’t mind seeing Dixon get another shot at the Ravens in game 4. Ben already owns them, nothing left to prove there.

  159. Michael K. says: Sep 2, 2010 11:36 AM

    If Godell really wants to punish him, he’ll let him start against the Ravens! If he does, my guess is he won’t finish!

  160. sullijo says: Sep 2, 2010 11:43 AM

    Keep it classy, Toothlessberger.

  161. NOwillrepeat says: Sep 2, 2010 11:54 AM

    Deb:
    A woman ran a stop sign and hit Roethlisberger, who was driving 26 mph. You might want to do a little more research. I’ve spent years working with assault victims and studying these issues. Traffic accidents are not signs of sexual aggression. Neither is being a jerk to fans or skipping out on restaurant tabs.
    —————————————————
    Not really sure what your trying to say here…
    Im not arguing that Ben’s off field smugness or accident has anything to do with sexual aggression. It has to do with him believing he is above the standards set by our society.
    It’s never Ben’s fault right? They’re all just out to get him…
    Even if a woman hit Ben, he still was not wearing a helmet! Putting himself at serious risk of major injury or death. That to me is reckless and irresponsible to yourself, teammates, organization, and fans.
    Until Ben’s truly learns what is and isn’t acceptable behavior, the next incident is only right around the corner.

  162. Deb says: Sep 2, 2010 11:58 AM

    NOwillrepeat says:
    You can’t truly believe he’s completely innocent do you? What the hell is a guy like Roethlesburger doing in a place like Milledgeville, Ga anyway? With a posse? Creepin’ time!!
    Where there’s smoke there’s fire. Take your little squeeler black and yellow blinders off and read between the lines.
    ————————————————
    Scratch a jackass pretending to be a rape crusader and you get a “squeeler”-hater every time. LOL
    At least you’re consistent: You don’t know any more about Roethlisberger than you do sexual assault issues.
    I’ve spent some time in Milledgeville. It’s a lovely area, beautiful lakes, nice weather, nice golf courses. Ben owns a house on a lake in a golf community about 40 minutes away. That was his first visit to the college town.
    Where there’s smoke there’s fire? Wow, that’s an interesting legal concept. Pick that up from Matlock?

  163. texasPHINSfan says: Sep 2, 2010 12:14 PM

    so basically the message this sends is: it’s ok to harass and/or rape women, as long as you don’t do it again for several months after you’re exposed. right?
    staying “clean” for a few months doesn’t undo what you did previously. i can understand not lengthening the suspension, but reducing it 3 games? meh.

  164. Deb says: Sep 2, 2010 12:20 PM

    @CKL …
    Point taken, though I think Ben meant he wouldn’t appeal. I think he could have won. First player in history suspended w/out prior disciplinary action, arrest or charge, violation of the susbstance abuse, PED, or gambling policies. I supported suspension because his recklessness endangered himself–but expected 4-2, not 6-4.
    Goodell has a report from NFL Security–former FBI, etc., who ran their own investigation–saying Ben is innocent. He has reports from counselors saying Ben’s issues are immaturity and ego–which he’s eagerly addressed. And since Ben’s suspension was announced, he’s let off players in more serious circumstances. All that puts things in a difference light. Doubt he’ll lower it below four. But the league wants the ratings from that Ravens game–and $$$ is always Goodell’s first priority.
    @The Rural Juror …
    What’s more important? Rigidity or justice? This is an immature jerk falsely accused of rape. You SHOULD be shaking with rage at the women exploiting rape for their own ends. It’s a heinous crime, and the number of false accusations is increasing. Every time an Andrea McNulty or Georgia DTF crawls out of the woodwork, the person she hurts is the next REAL victim who will find it harder to come forward and be believed. That’s where your righteous anger should be directed.

  165. FrankoBollo says: Sep 2, 2010 12:23 PM

    EverybodyGotAIDS says:
    September 1, 2010 6:34 PM
    buckeye044 says:
    September 1, 2010 6:15 PM
    Other than general stupidity, which he has plenty of………what did he do wrong?
    _________
    Ummm…..have you been living under a rock for the past 6 months?
    I’ll give you a hint: it rhymes with gape. Or….bexual massault.
    ——————————————————————-
    Ah, another sufferer of PFTBHDS — the sure giveaway, the bizarrely cute handle referring to “AIDS” — the victim not realizing his credibility is shot just from the handle alone. But the main symptom: the complete denial of investigators’ findings, the inability to focus on reality, is classic PFTBDHS. No, the disease sufferer goes on declaring Ben guility anyway, regardless of the facts. Sure, the DA said there was no basis to the accuser’s claims, sure the medical people found no DNA evidence consistent with sexual assault, but does that stop the PFTBHDS sufferer? Of course not. He feels comfortable living in his fantasy world.
    Please people, donate to the PFTBHDS foundation. Because a hater’s mind is a terrible thing to waste.

  166. Steelerschick43 says: Sep 2, 2010 12:44 PM

    People….do you realize 5 other players in the NFL have actually been CONVICTED of crimes….and have not gotten a suspension after all this with Ben went down???? You can assault someone say a starting QB as well (Young) in a strip club (yes strip club….morals????) you can carry a LOADED gun in an airport (and why???) and no suspension, you can get arrested of a DUI and no suspension hmmm let me see what else…oh a Colt player gets a rape accusation and nothing…such a double standard!
    Love how people think he should be out and entire season for what???? Donte Stallworth KILLED…MURDERED someone drinking and d riving and only served 30 days in jail and had the PRIVLIDGE of playing for the NFL again only after a 16 game suspension…so what you are saying is Ben deserves the same punishment as a murderer?????????? Ya gotta be kidding me!!!

  167. Deb says: Sep 2, 2010 12:49 PM

    @NOwillrepeat …
    Your first post focused on patterns of behavior relating to sexual assault and closed with Ben’s history of off-field issues, so it all ran together for me. If you’re separating the two, I agree–though not about the accident.
    I live in Florida, which has a no-helmet law. Every day, I see guys–much older than Ben–riding bare-headed. Some people just don’t see the danger. Ben didn’t see the risk and was too immature to understand how many people depend on him and that he’s not invincible. Frankly, I blame the Steelers. Rather than suggesting, they should have written it into his contract.
    However, after the accident–and after he swore off riding sans helmet–he continued to do it. That’s inexcusable and a sign of his growing recklessness. I’ve been appalled by the stories of his egomania, rudeness, and all-around jackass behavior. I believe the same recklessness he exhibits in life shows on the field in his unwillingness to work harder or modify his play to take fewer hits. He wants to be the gunslinger who flies by the seat of his pants and thinks nothing bad can happen to him. He absolutely needed an intervention and I support the suspension. But it should have come from the team and been 4-2 rather than 6-4 because he’s guilty of poor judgment and obnoxiousness–not rape or any other crime.

  168. MrMojoe says: Sep 2, 2010 2:28 PM

    I’m not sure Ben wants to come back to BALTIMORE for his first game back. It will definitely be a warm welcome…
    brb getting my sign ready…

  169. NOwillrepeat says: Sep 2, 2010 2:37 PM

    Deb:
    Scratch a jackass pretending to be a rape crusader and you get a “squeeler”-hater every time. LOL
    ———————————————–
    Deb, my team just won the Super Bowl. I have no reason to be jealous of any franchise or fan base, as right now mine is ruling the roost.
    But I do ask that role models and star athletes (really just grown men) take accountability for their actions.
    If Commissioner Goodell believed that Ben’s poor judgement was worth a 6 game suspension, than he needs to respect that decision and take the necessary steps to ensure that it never happens again. He embarrassed the NFL, the Steelers organization, and most importantly himself and needs to learn from that experience.
    It is his resistance to discipline that leads me to believe that this issue has not been squashed.

  170. Deb says: Sep 2, 2010 3:59 PM

    @NOwillrepeat …
    Have been doing this dance for months, and whenever someone lists rape “facts,” they’ve been wrong, and it’s been a cover for an ax to grind. You don’t have a reason to hate Steelers but “Take your little squeeler black and yellow blinders off” kinda speaks for itself.
    Congrats on SB. You might have spotted me on NO threads telling Florio to back off Payton on Vicodin unless charges are filed. I don’t like trial by media for anyone. Legal cases aren’t about smoke & fire; they’re about evidence–which in Ben’s case shows no rapes occurred. Other tales intended to cast Ben as predator do the opposite.
    I don’t condone Ben’s asinine behavior, and support his suspension. But Goodell is a wholly political animal. He didn’t hand down that suspension because he thought it’s what Ben’s actions merited. Roethlisberger was at the center of a media firestorm and he played to the crowd.
    Ben’s punishment was far out of line w/league precedent and subsequent actions in cases like Young’s. Ray Lewis was CHARGED w/murder, pled to misdemeanor obstruction, and a man died. He was fined but not suspended–and that was for admitted involvement in an actual felony. Ben’s “crime” is frat-boy behavior. The commissioner’s suspension letter cited him for drinking too much–like no other player does. Goodell has NFL Security’s report. He knows authorities in Milledgeville don’t believe that woman was assaulted–that’s why he didn’t mention anything about sexual assault in the letter.
    A fine punishes the player. A suspension punishes the team and the fans. At most, it should have been four games w/possible reduction to two. He’s met the burden and done more than was asked. It would be a good-faith move to reduce to three games–or he could reduce to two and impose a fine, citing the Ray Lewis case. That would still be more than Lewis got.

  171. ECS - Brougham Boys 74 says: Sep 2, 2010 4:00 PM

    @flake13:
    ————————————-
    She did say “No” when she was first asked.
    She did change her story about what position they were in: first she said she was sitting on the toilet, then she said she couldn’t remember.
    There was no seamen found.
    They found slight bruising that COULD have come from sexual contact.
    This is all documented in her testimony and police report…and you are just a lying piece of…
    It’s okay to hate the Steelers…just do it waith the facts!
    —————————————-
    OK, I get it. You’re a Pittsburgh resident. Can’t read or write, so how can you possibly be expected to read the police reports?
    There WERE no seamen found, because they were nowhere near a naval base, genius. Not sure what that has to do with rape, though.
    Now, if you’re talking about “semen”, let me explain something to such a classy educated dude such as yourself: there are these things called condoms that prevent you from spilling semen on the floor, in your girlfriend’s mouth or hair, or even her vagina! They’re great for preventing STDs, pregnancy, and the occasional rape charge. From what I’ve read, they are becoming increasingly popular with serial rapists as a result.
    Nice try on the “changing positions” argument. Hilarious. I love how you just pulled that one out of thin air, even though it would be totally irrelevant to the police investigation. Post a link to any document from that investigation where police questioned the victim about where she was sitting in the bathroom. Seriously. You can’t because it doesn’t exist. You just pulled a Mike Wise and fabricated it completely. So not only are you an illiterate moron, you are also a liar who likes to call other people liars. Awesome.
    Also, the hospital report didn’t say “slight” bruising. Once again, try doing some actual reading and research. The hospital reported that they found “lacerations and bruising consistent with involuntary sexual intercourse”. They also stated that the intercourse had occurred within the last few hours. THAT is a direct quote from the hospital, as found in those reports you supposedly read. Nowhere else in the police documents will you find any statement from the hospital or its staff that in any way contradicts or otherwise modifies that finding. Oh, and by the way, “lacerations” mean she had cuts/tears in or around her vagina. Would you call it “slight” bruising if your penis was all cut up? Didn’t think so.
    Also, I don’t hate the Steelers, don’t even care about them, they’re not in my division, not even the same conference (NFC fan here). Waith the facts or waithout them, I’m indifferent. So you can get down off that cross now, we need the wood.

  172. Bdrunk says: Sep 2, 2010 4:23 PM

    Seriously? Ben owns Baltimore, it’s like a second home field to him. You have very good reason to want Dixon or Lefty in for that game.

  173. Bdrunk says: Sep 2, 2010 4:46 PM

    ECS – Brougham Boys 74 says:
    September 2, 2010 4:00 PM
    “Also, I don’t hate the Steelers, don’t even care about them, they’re not in my division, not even the same conference (NFC fan here). Waith the facts or waithout them, I’m indifferent. ”
    ———————-
    GTFO

  174. Deb says: Sep 2, 2010 5:53 PM

    ECS-Brougham Boys 74 …
    Of course you’re indifferent, NFC. All Seahawks fans are.
    Let me explain something, sweetie. That exam did not find “lacerations” plural. She had a small scratch, less than a quarter inch and some external vaginal bruising. Yes, those injuries can be consistent with sexual assault. They’re also consistent with consensual sex, digital sex, and masturbation. (There was evidence she’d had sex earlier in the day. Asked about that at the press conference, the DA said he couldn’t violate her privacy by commenting.) The scratch could have happened as she wiped–particularly since she was blotto.
    That’s why the doctor said the findings COULD NOT be ruled as evidence of an assault.
    Even with the use of a condom, the exam should have picked up seminal fluid. In one case, a man videotaped himself CAREFULLY putting on a condom, then raping a still, unconscious victim. Despite his care, the exam still picked up enough seminal fluid for an ID match. You think a drunk Roethlisberger could have put on a condom with one hand while holding DTF with the other and left behind nothing? What about pubic hair, sweat, saliva, tissue? Condoms don’t catch those substances, but they weren’t found either.
    Something else that wasn’t found: lubricant. Condoms may keep some rapists from being identified, but examiners are still able to detect the presence of the condom. Georgia examiners found NO EVIDENCE of condom use–and the accuser didn’t mention a condom.
    Those are the facts … not that you’ve EVER been interested in the facts.

  175. RebaT. says: Sep 3, 2010 12:48 AM

    Deb, Jesus! Stop with the Gone with the Wind novel! Besides you don’t know what the word “FACT” means.
    Rapistberger is a wussy (change one letter) and should get what’s coming to him. Where is Lorena Bobbit when you need her? In the Panther’s game he got knocked on his ass two times. Too bad he got up. Too bad it wasn’t HIS knee hurt. He pee’d on a public golf course and the rumor is you could barely see it. Poor fella!
    I’m with Terry Bradshaw and hopes his 6 game suspension stays. Yay TERRY!!! Love ya man.

  176. FrankoBollo says: Sep 3, 2010 2:00 AM

    ECS – Brougham Boys 74 says:
    September 2, 2010 4:00 PM
    OK, I get it. You’re a Pittsburgh resident. Can’t read or write, so how can you possibly be expected to read the police reports?
    There WERE no seamen found, because they were nowhere near a naval base, genius. Not sure what that has to do with rape, though.
    Now, if you’re talking about “semen”, let me explain something to such a classy educated dude such as yourself: there are these things called condoms that prevent you from spilling semen on the floor, in your girlfriend’s mouth or hair, or even her vagina! They’re great for preventing STDs, pregnancy, and the occasional rape charge. From what I’ve read, they are becoming increasingly popular with serial rapists as a result.
    Nice try on the “changing positions” argument. Hilarious. I love how you just pulled that one out of thin air, even though it would be totally irrelevant to the police investigation. Post a link to any document from that investigation where police questioned the victim about where she was sitting in the bathroom. Seriously. You can’t because it doesn’t exist. You just pulled a Mike Wise and fabricated it completely. So not only are you an illiterate moron, you are also a liar who likes to call other people liars. Awesome.
    They also stated that the intercourse had occurred within the last few hours. THAT is a direct quote from the hospital, as found in those reports you supposedly read. Nowhere else in the police documents will you find any statement from the hospital or its staff that in any way contradicts or otherwise modifies that finding.
    ————————————————————
    Ah, another poor PFTBHDS sufferer.
    While you’re calling others “genius” and attacking other people’s literacy skills, let’s get the facts…
    1. No, the police report did NOT say intercourse had happened in the “last few hours” — it did say the last time she had intercourse was around New Year’s. In fact the police (or DA for that matter) NEVER claimed there was intercourse between Ben and the accuser.
    2. We’re expected to believe with all the drinking and confusion going on, Ben slipped on a rubber? In what, the approximately two seconds he had between her entering the corridor and him supposedly jumping out at her? Seriously, a guy that drunk and sloppy is going to remember to wear his protection? Ha ha ha!
    Oh and way to still ignore the fact that the accuser’s first statement to police was “I was NOT raped.” Strange you didn’t come across that one in those reams of pages you so obviously pored over like a desperate grad student.
    Funny how the people who talk about the police reports are never the ones who read them. Then again, based on where you’re from, I’d say the people there aren’t so literate.

  177. Deb says: Sep 3, 2010 10:57 AM

    @RebaT. …
    Here’s the cure. Don’t read them.
    You and Connie would make a lovely couple. You can hang out at the bar together, keep each other from slipping off the stools.

  178. David56 says: Sep 3, 2010 6:18 PM

    The Commish cuts Old Ben some huge slack and Ben isn’t happy with that?!!?
    Any other profession outside of a major sport you or I would have been fired from our jobs if such an incident involved any of us. Even a hint of such grossness would have gotten any of us fired.
    If Goodell gives in to under four games then he’ll forefit whatever respect he has left if any is left. Ben should have manned up and taken his six game suspension. This whole deal stinks.

  179. 420fan says: Sep 4, 2010 12:36 PM

    “But Commish, I haven’t shown anyone my junk that hasn’t wanted to see it in over 4 months”

  180. Deb says: Sep 4, 2010 5:30 PM

    David56 …
    You’re not too bright, are you? Goodell’s ORIGINAL suspension was 6 games with a possible reduction to 4 if Ben met his criteria. The possible reduction was BUILT IN to the original suspension. Ben has met the criteria and the Commissioner has kept the agreement. Ben did not ask for a reduction. That erroneous report was corrected long before you posted.
    People are not usually fired from their jobs for getting intoxicated on their own time. That and buying alcohol for a party of people who already were intoxicated is why Roethlisberger was suspended. The evidence shows him innocent of the rape accusation–which is why he wasn’t charged. The supposed peep show was an unsubstantiated allegation.

  181. Joker3 says: Sep 4, 2010 8:56 PM

    Buckeye44, read the news you moron!

  182. Steelintn says: Sep 5, 2010 10:15 AM

    Go get them Deb. Keep them straight. I bet they wouldn’t have the guts to say this stuff to Ben’s face. It’s easy to talk all this smack hiding behind a screen.
    Connie and RebaT, maybe it’s time to find another team or give up on football all together. Seems like you two have a lot of hate and wish ill will towards our STEELERS.
    Go Big Ben and go STEELERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  183. PatricktheDookie says: Sep 5, 2010 5:18 PM

    All these Steelers fans keep bringing up that he was never charged when it’s highly likely that he reached at out-of-court settlement with the victim to keep quiet.
    He’s scum. I hope he cracks open his skull again.

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